If you liked this clip, here's Adam Silver recounting the Donald Sterling ban: ruclips.net/video/lUNW0jJgXuo/видео.html And as always, check out the full ep when you can.
All star game should be held in summer time, then you push back the in season tournament game to February. Hey jj also the comments are important too. People feel more connected if the nba was more accessible. Price wise, TV views, schedule management and the fans are involved as well. More jumbotron interactions. The technology we have should be embraced and used towards our next big Aspiration.
ADAM SILVER is a dirty filthy human being who allows players to skip 30% of their regular season games for “rest” purposes. It’s disgusting, I hope the streaming platforms quit the NBA until he is removed and it’s changed. Adam Silvers NBA is a fake product full of lies and brainwashing young kids to political ideas.
Props to Silver for actually coming onto long form media and having an unedited discussion about controversial issues. It's very rare to see an executive be willing to promote transparency such as this.
must say i respect adam silver a lot because he didnt have to do this. hes always been about improving the game and trying his hardest to listen to others opinions no matter the side. imagine goodell or manfred doing this..they wouldnt.
I think you are completely wrong on this take he has proven time after time that he doesn't do this regularly. Nor does he show a willingness to listen to opposin views he simple only does what the owners tell him to do. The only reason for why he changed this was because of the dollars involved that were lost by having every team doing this and players abusing it. Once the owners saw if hurt the bottom line it was scrapped. The reason other commissioners not doing this is for that very reason as well. They only care when they get told to care about it. The only power they have is the power annotated to them from them. That is why they answer to the owners the power dynamic is shifted and its not the commissioners making the decisions.
THIS IS THE CONTENT WE NEED! JJ does such a good job of not being just another PR rep for the NBA. He has thoughtful takes that are well reasoned and very objective.
How about ask why he is allowing refs to have so much sway and calling egregious calls, especially ones against stars who people pay big money to say and some only get too once in their lives. Case in point tossing Giannis last night
Being a ref involves a ton of self interpretation, take away the ability to eject a player unless it’s for 2 flagrant fouls, intentional foul that leads to injury and anything that has to do with the physical fights with each other or the fans. “Taunting” is the sorriest excuse to eject someone 😂😂
The league caters incredibly hard to stars, they get calls no one else would. I think that’s wrong, just like terrible ejections you’re referencing- asking for more star protection would make the product even more unwatchable. Reasoning like “you can’t toss them bc we pay a lot to come see them at the games” will lead the league into even more manipulation of results - at that point can we even call it a sport. I do agree that I think coaching refs to make calls more judiciously across the board (not just with stars) is a good start
Cuz the nba is rigged. If you bet you see it. Or lie to yourself and pretend you don’t. Tim Donaghy went to prison for it. He was the fall guy, there’s many many more.
I think that's what's missing Jordan wasn't the highest paid player for the majority of his career he lived the competition of it. I love Shai as a player but when he said the all star game needed some type of financial incentive and Utah wasn't a good place to have it. I'm like the reason you get paid what you get paid is because players before you
All these negative comments lol. I love that you guys got Silver on the Pod and I actually think his answers seemed very sincere and transparent. Great listen.
The most hilarious part of load management is that people blame it on Pop. If you look at the number of ACTUAL games taht Tim / Tony / Manu rested (not including games where they were actually injured), it was very few. Duncan was still playing 70+ games lol.
@@mlixor Duncan was so good he would calm everyone and set the tone then get a 22-10 lead everytime after 8 minutes. Duncan is one of the top 5 Player Ever. He's way better than lebron. Duncan was so good he only needed to play 24 minutes. Then with the Bench players they would just play Don Nelson Offense. Top 7 Players ever are Jordan, Magic, Bird, Duncan, Hakeem, Shaq, Robinson.
Load management will never go away as long as you have a play off system where the regular season really doesn’t matter. Even If you made the regular season 30 games, stars would still take nights off in order to be as fresh as possible for the playoffs, the only games that truly matter.
I went to my first NBA game in Atlanta and Trea sat out and every starter other than Middleton from the Bucs sat out. Haven’t been to another game since. Not paying the money it cost to go to the games to see the stars cheer from the bench.
If you do reduce the games in the season, something to assist in lost revenue could be a NBA expo. Where people could go meet the players. This could either be the entire league at a chosen destination such as Vegas. Or each team has their own expo in their arena. This would greatly enhance fan interaction & get people more excited for the season.
@@chillax9184 I think a good start would be addressing theses refs ejecting players for any form of emotion. I don’t understand how they want to force these players to play but eject them for simply staring down a player after dunking on them. The fans want that. Rick flair said it best “you need a good guy and a bad guy in entertainment”. We need emotion.
MOST star Players would come up with every excuse not to participate in that. Too many bench princesses who feel entitled to collect their money but want to bounce teams when things don’t go how they want or show up to as few games as possible. They would much rather dip out to cancun or vegas then show up for a day and hangout with everyday people who make them their millions. Us peasants must take our crumbs and say thank you
Next time maybe ask him about the refs. They need to be fined, just like players are. Giannis being ejected yesterday was ridiculous as was that gsw-den goal tend missed call
I will never understand why the NBA tries to press 82 Games in a 6 month window to then have a ridiculously long off-season of 6 months for most teams. Just start the season in August instead of october and that solves all the problems for everybody, no more back to backs, less need to load manage and even more national TV Games. Almost every sport outside the NFL and NBA has a reasonably long off-season of 6-8 weeks and players even manage to perform for their national teams in that time, what is so difficult about this and what is the downside
Could also go a soccer route or whatever league and have the games spread out over the entire year with various breaks in between- after a major tournament
Because you would then have some players that have just a month before preseason and others that have 4. Also you would be directly competing with the NFL for their entire season
@@WoTMike1989 isn't this whats goin' on with international players, having a tournament every summer with their nt? (to the point nba teams not letting them go..)
Did you watch the clip? I did. Also, "unbiased" and "honest" are not the same thing. Plus, why would JJ come down on one side or the other and how would that affect his questions?
@@devilpistons1269 After reading various comments over the years, the majority of the people don't even understand the word ''biased'' means. They think they do understand but they misuse the word too often. Yes these are the people with voting rights. Democracy is a joke.
Would injuries go up or down if players didn’t listen to trainers and not take designated rest days? Idk if there’s a psychological component to knowing what days you’re playing and which you’re not. If you’re always in go mode, maybe the minor injuries aren’t as bad but you’re more prone to catastrophic ones as opposed to resting due to smaller injuries and preventing the big ones.
Idk about the inconclusive evidence silver has his talking points on. It'd be crazy to think that 3 games in one week for a month would cause the same amount of injuries as 5 games a week. I also think the idea of playing 20 less games per year prolongs your career. Sure it should give you some time tacked on the end of your physical abilities, but a full year? Contract? Meh. I'd assume there's more gained in not having those "extra" games causing the injuries which takes time off your career. Calling regular season games "extra" made me physically gag right there. I hate this crap but I completely understand the reasoning. Same as the spam 3pt shot
Years ago, randy Smith was known as the fastest player in the game. He was a rocket up and down the court. He played 907 consecutive games. I don’t know what’s wrong with these guys today
Teams forget load management worked originally in San Antonio because the city and Fans understood it was solely to extend the number years on the players. (Since they were a older team at the time.) but it was a team effort in accordance with the fans and city. Nowadays feels like players took advantage of it.
Get rid of back-to-backs. Extend the season time-frame by 2-3 weeks, and those 14 or so back-to-backs per team can go bye-bye. Nearly all of the load management players sit out only back-to-backs. Then if someone tries to load manage, they should get fined since they have sufficient rest anyways. Shorter offseason yes, but I think fans that go to games to see their favorite player will never be disappointed again.
Fouling out is fine, we don't want to see 50 free throws either and if one guy is fouling a lot then that's a skill issue. But ejections do need to be looked at, they give out techs way too easy.
Change the foul-out number to seven, or make it a one-shot tech at six or more. If Jokic, Giannis, Zion, Wemby, etc. get three fouls early in the second quarter, do we really want to see them on the bench? What purpose does it serve? It's usually the result of bad officiating, anyway - just like technical fouls! @@maxumis1
Stayed up and watched a few games recently in the U.K. on tnt sports. It comes across like some players don’t care about losing, only early in the season so don’t go all out and win. You can tell players are playing to avoid injury so the standard drops immediately
the spurs started load management. but when kawhi won a title for the raptors by being load managed. it gave the rest of the league the green light to do the same.
6:18, If it's not coming from the players then they need to say that. And say it publicly too💯Load Management will DESTROY the game if Silver does not address it, and he know it. Silver can also put into the contract that if you are healthy and want to just "sit out" and not play, give each fan a FULL refund, the network broadcasting the game a FULL refund and take it OUT of the players check!💯That will stop load management in its tracks!
At 8:20, Adam Silver briefly considers a 72 game season, prefacing with “putting aside the economic sacrifice, that’s real”. I challenge this economic assumption. If the NFL increased from 17 games to 50 games, their overall revenue would surely decrease due to the dilution of game quality, as stars would be forced to rest half the games, lowering viewership. There is a certain regular season length N that should maximize revenue, and for the NBA it is not clear at all whether N is less than 82, more than 82, or exactly 82.
If a minimum wage worker tried to tell his boss that he needed a few days off for load management, that boss would find a new worker. These players are paid MILLIONS of dollars. They know what they signed up for. They should play every game they physically can. And don't even get me started on FAKE injuries so teams can tank.
Just go to 76 games and take out the play in and go back to top 8 seeds. Every team plays their: division 4x(2 home and 2 away)=16 games Conference(excluding division play) 3x(third game is home one year, away the next)=30 games The other conference 2x(one home and one away)=30 games This pretty much takes out any back to backs or give extra time off during all star break, as the season will be shortened by 2 weeks. Maybe even go back to opening night being on Halloween.
When fans pay for their ticket, they don’t get a discount when the stars aren’t playing. Easy fix is players can have all of the load management and games off they want, but they don’t get paid for not playing. The average Joe doesn’t get paid for not showing up to work. The owners get a discount as they shouldn’t pay max money for minimal participation.
I agree and what if they pick a day that the favorite player is not playing? I have favorite players I want to go see. For example I want to see Ja play after his suspension is up if he not playing then i don’t want to be there unless it’s other stars on the opposite team if that makes sense
@@SelfPreservation6 exactly. Get a discount on the ticket proportional to the amount that the star takes up on the teams salary cap perhaps or the option of a full refund.
Any one who can add and subtract can put together that playing less minutes reduces the odds of getting injured, just like cliff diving or miles driven or # of times you try to rob a store
But injuries are far more rampant now with load management then they ever were in the old days. Almost as if keeping your muscles and ligaments in use is more beneficial then rest.
If the stars want to “load management” ticket buyers should get a load management price. Players used to take pride in playing every game for the fans. They are entertainers, if healthy play! The owe it to their fans.
I don't have a problem with load management, the problem is transparency. If I go to a Warriors game and Steph ain't playing because of "load management", I think fans should get a percentage of their money back. We come to see stars. Respect your paying customers. Punish the teams that don't. That's ultimately what it boils down to.
Yeah steph sat out against my home team last year. Didn't find out til the day of. Here I am taking my nephew to see steph, but steph needed "rest". Was some bullshit for sure. I'll never buy tickets to an NBA game again. Especially cause they upcharge for games with superstars. I could've went and seen the pacers for a 3rd of what I paid to see the warriors minus steph. Disgusting
In 2022 Game 6 of the NBA Finals was the most viewed NBA event. It ranked as the 108 most viewed sporting events. The NBA DIDNT BREAK THE TOP 107. At. All. NBA means “not bothering anyway”.
The issue is that 2/3 of the league make playoffs. It’s so ridiculously easy to make playoffs that there is no point in even trying in the regular season. The regular season is basically just a glorified practice for the playoffs. A sport like baseball has always had the best regular season because so few team make playoffs that there is actually urgency in the regular season. 6 teams per conference should make playoffs with the top 2 getting a first round bye
I blame fans playing a big part in resting. Fans have put so much emphasis on winning that a players career means nothing if he doesn't win titles. So now there is no pride in Regular season. Resting players for the playoffs doesn't necessarily scream "I care about Regular season anything." Only amount of Games that matter now are 16-20 in the playoffs. The product is in turn watered down. I'm a little salty about it because I bought tickets to see the Lakers play in person last season on my birthday and both LeBron and AD sat and we didn't know until right before the game. Those tickets weren't cheap either.
This is a good point that doesn't get talked about enough. The entire culture around the NBA (media, fans, players, owners) openly call the regular season worthless all the time. And then it becomes a spiral that feeds itself (if fans don't care, players don't care, which causes media to talk more about what players wore to the game and narrative making bs than the actual game results, rinse and repeat cycle)
I can’t imagine why any player would be for load management. If the nba loses 10% of its revenue the super max contracts and overall pay will just be way less. It’s not complicated to see that.
75 games but still ends at mid to late April should be okay. loosens up team calendars to avoid back to backs and more recovery time for minor injuries.
Reduce the season to approximately 70 games to help with load management and also urgency! If each game is worth more, that greatly incentivizes playing
It is not that easy. I mean salary will be less. Also players who wants to break some NBA records will be difficult for them since there will be less games.
@@llbuitre yes, all of that may be true (except the lower salaries). I am not convinced they will lose that much money as urgency benefits viewership, as well as makes games more exciting in general. Players will play harder. Show up to more games. There is, I'm sure, some penalty but I don't think it's going to fundamentally harm their bottom line that much. The records thing is fair. That's the tough one imo
Teams just don't find it necessary to have their players playing all 82 games.. If the NBA consider shorten the regular season like make it First round and Second round format where in each teams will meet each other twice in regular season.. Then make the playoffs as a crossover top 16.1st seed vs 16th seed.. But at the end of the day it is still a business more games more revenue for the league in general..
The biggest problem in NBA is draft procedure. Tanking is destroying the regular season 40% of the games they have no interest because one team wanna lose. Every team the same chances for No1. And all will be fixed.
He doesn’t need to do all these gimmicks like this in-season tournament. Only 2 things he needs to work on - 1) get rid of load mgt for all players (not just star players). Any trainers coming with their charts and graphs about a player running hot, that’s an automatic job termination. 2) reign in the refs on all these power trip calls over the most minor things
Bruh nobody never ask Adam why is it that the Refs make these terrible calls/no calls, eject players early over non sense but if the players say anything about the refering that game he gets fined🤔
They need to emphasize the importance of home court advantage. So many teams disregard it so they don’t care about seeding. You’re telling me the Lakers loved starting in Denver last season? No.
We act like these people are on minimum wage. If you don’t play, you don’t get all you money, simple. You get a minimum salary till you play again. They will still be better off than 99% of people.
Idk where to start about the refs this year..literally the commentators are even left speechless after most of the stuff that's been happening..I really think theres a narrative to every game for the refs..for example last night Zion missed 3 freethrows straight and the refs kept blessing him with lane violations..it just seems like the refs have a strict criteria for each specific player..
Fans don't spend NBA money to watch G-league players. If players don't want to play 82, fans shouldn't pay for 82. No one is happy when you pay for 16 oz of coffee and they give you 10.
If you liked this clip, here's Adam Silver recounting the Donald Sterling ban: ruclips.net/video/lUNW0jJgXuo/видео.html
And as always, check out the full ep when you can.
All star game should be held in summer time, then you push back the in season tournament game to February. Hey jj also the comments are important too. People feel more connected if the nba was more accessible. Price wise, TV views, schedule management and the fans are involved as well. More jumbotron interactions. The technology we have should be embraced and used towards our next big Aspiration.
small typo on the thumbnail 🙂 @JJRedick
ADAM SILVER is a dirty filthy human being who allows players to skip 30% of their regular season games for “rest” purposes. It’s disgusting, I hope the streaming platforms quit the NBA until he is removed and it’s changed. Adam Silvers NBA is a fake product full of lies and brainwashing young kids to political ideas.
Props to Silver for actually coming onto long form media and having an unedited discussion about controversial issues. It's very rare to see an executive be willing to promote transparency such as this.
I appreciate the commissioner being transparent.
Would be better if he was black
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@@drunkpihuh? Don’t be a weirdo troll
@@drunkpi😂 that’s racist af
Imagine the reverse being said
It's crazy that you got Adam Silver on your podcast. Great work!
JJ challenging Adam Silver and calling him out on going back on what he said is what makes this podcast so great.
also gotta give props to Adam Silver for coming on and willingly getting questioned about all this different stuff
Maybe he could keep that same energy for players? Because he’s never pushed back AT ALL on ANYTHING a player has ever said to him.
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@@aricrudd6579haha he can’t do that because the players won’t come on
@@aricrudd6579hmmm hard disagree. He most definitely has. He’s nicer about it with them
must say i respect adam silver a lot because he didnt have to do this. hes always been about improving the game and trying his hardest to listen to others opinions no matter the side. imagine goodell or manfred doing this..they wouldnt.
For real, he’s easily the best commissioner in all of USA sports
I think you are completely wrong on this take he has proven time after time that he doesn't do this regularly. Nor does he show a willingness to listen to opposin views he simple only does what the owners tell him to do. The only reason for why he changed this was because of the dollars involved that were lost by having every team doing this and players abusing it. Once the owners saw if hurt the bottom line it was scrapped.
The reason other commissioners not doing this is for that very reason as well. They only care when they get told to care about it. The only power they have is the power annotated to them from them. That is why they answer to the owners the power dynamic is shifted and its not the commissioners making the decisions.
Mad respect for Adam Silver being so open and clear with his thoughts on this stuff. This definitely a case of "David Stern would never. .."
david stern built things so adam silver could walk in his shoes 😂dont compare the two david stern did far more for the nba
@@archiveplug1819That has nothing to do with what he said...
@@siliziwencanywa1138how?
@@archiveplug1819 Dont give stern credit for what MJ did.
Players wouldn't be load managing under david stern.
THIS IS THE CONTENT WE NEED! JJ does such a good job of not being just another PR rep for the NBA. He has thoughtful takes that are well reasoned and very objective.
It is so strange hearing someone talk for longer than 8 seconds without being interrupted. This is awesome.
What i love most about JJ as an interviewer, is that he asks a question, AND ACTUALLY LETS THE PERSON ANSWER !!
How about ask why he is allowing refs to have so much sway and calling egregious calls, especially ones against stars who people pay big money to say and some only get too once in their lives. Case in point tossing Giannis last night
Yes! it’s getting insufferable
Being a ref involves a ton of self interpretation, take away the ability to eject a player unless it’s for 2 flagrant fouls, intentional foul that leads to injury and anything that has to do with the physical fights with each other or the fans. “Taunting” is the sorriest excuse to eject someone 😂😂
The league caters incredibly hard to stars, they get calls no one else would. I think that’s wrong, just like terrible ejections you’re referencing- asking for more star protection would make the product even more unwatchable. Reasoning like “you can’t toss them bc we pay a lot to come see them at the games” will lead the league into even more manipulation of results - at that point can we even call it a sport. I do agree that I think coaching refs to make calls more judiciously across the board (not just with stars) is a good start
Cuz the nba is rigged. If you bet you see it. Or lie to yourself and pretend you don’t. Tim Donaghy went to prison for it. He was the fall guy, there’s many many more.
Or like when Giannis caught his own air ball and traveled but they didn’t call it. Terrible refs all around
I think that's what's missing Jordan wasn't the highest paid player for the majority of his career he lived the competition of it. I love Shai as a player but when he said the all star game needed some type of financial incentive and Utah wasn't a good place to have it. I'm like the reason you get paid what you get paid is because players before you
I love real conversations about sports. JJ continues to pump out great content.
Glad you got Adam Silver on the pod. Enormous responsibility. Great questions!
All these negative comments lol. I love that you guys got Silver on the Pod and I actually think his answers seemed very sincere and transparent. Great listen.
The most hilarious part of load management is that people blame it on Pop. If you look at the number of ACTUAL games taht Tim / Tony / Manu rested (not including games where they were actually injured), it was very few. Duncan was still playing 70+ games lol.
Pops strategy was actually minutes based load management not game based load management, that’s what people miss
you have to have a good bench tho to do that you know, so not all teams can really do it @@tobiojo10
They were the first to use Load Management and save Duncan for the Playoffs. Spurs were all about the Playoffs. They would rest players every game.
@@JimBrave-ri1oc yea but some teams if they dont play their starters 38min+ they wont make the playoffs lol
@@mlixor Duncan was so good he would calm everyone and set the tone then get a 22-10 lead everytime after 8 minutes. Duncan is one of the top 5 Player Ever. He's way better than lebron.
Duncan was so good he only needed to play 24 minutes. Then with the Bench players they would just play Don Nelson Offense. Top 7 Players ever are Jordan, Magic, Bird, Duncan, Hakeem, Shaq, Robinson.
I'm not an NBA fan but I absolutely loved this conversation and the candor of both JJ and Adam
Load management will never go away as long as you have a play off system where the regular season really doesn’t matter. Even If you made the regular season 30 games, stars would still take nights off in order to be as fresh as possible for the playoffs, the only games that truly matter.
Only way to stop load management is to reduce the amount of playoff teams but that would never happen
The respect JJ has shows in the comissioner trusting him with an interview
almost enough respect to put on a shirt and tie... but not quite.
@@qbert5806 stop being old
The cleverest way to load manage is to get suspended for flashing a pistol.
Twice!
The nexus event that started all this came from that fateful Miami /spurs game when pop sent the big 3 and Danny green home i think
Adam Silver is a phenomenal commissioner.
JJ should have asked about these dogshit refs.. They literally decide which way a game goes.. Especially this season.. Unbearable to watch tbh
I like that the commish always starts with a TL;DR response. Yes, no, kind of...and then goes into details.
I went to my first NBA game in Atlanta and Trea sat out and every starter other than Middleton from the Bucs sat out. Haven’t been to another game since. Not paying the money it cost to go to the games to see the stars cheer from the bench.
If you do reduce the games in the season, something to assist in lost revenue could be a NBA expo. Where people could go meet the players. This could either be the entire league at a chosen destination such as Vegas. Or each team has their own expo in their arena. This would greatly enhance fan interaction & get people more excited for the season.
Couldn't even come close to capturing the lost revenue
Not a bad idea but there would need to be multiple ones.
60% of the players would not want any fanmeeting that’s for sure
@@chillax9184 I think a good start would be addressing theses refs ejecting players for any form of emotion. I don’t understand how they want to force these players to play but eject them for simply staring down a player after dunking on them. The fans want that. Rick flair said it best “you need a good guy and a bad guy in entertainment”. We need emotion.
MOST star Players would come up with every excuse not to participate in that. Too many bench princesses who feel entitled to collect their money but want to bounce teams when things don’t go how they want or show up to as few games as possible. They would much rather dip out to cancun or vegas then show up for a day and hangout with everyday people who make them their millions. Us peasants must take our crumbs and say thank you
Golden State came to Detroit twice and Steph sat, make it make sense. We were there for the spectacle
Next time maybe ask him about the refs. They need to be fined, just like players are. Giannis being ejected yesterday was ridiculous as was that gsw-den goal tend missed call
FACTS let these dudes show emotion.
Refs need to be given to the media just like the players. Let's see how they handle it
Load Management? Lmaooooo when did basketball players start moving and hauling furniture?
I will never understand why the NBA tries to press 82 Games in a 6 month window to then have a ridiculously long off-season of 6 months for most teams. Just start the season in August instead of october and that solves all the problems for everybody, no more back to backs, less need to load manage and even more national TV Games. Almost every sport outside the NFL and NBA has a reasonably long off-season of 6-8 weeks and players even manage to perform for their national teams in that time, what is so difficult about this and what is the downside
Could also go a soccer route or whatever league and have the games spread out over the entire year with various breaks in between- after a major tournament
Because you would then have some players that have just a month before preseason and others that have 4. Also you would be directly competing with the NFL for their entire season
NBA doesn't want to compete for ratings with NFL and NCAAF any more than they already do.
@@WoTMike1989 isn't this whats goin' on with international players, having a tournament every summer with their nt? (to the point nba teams not letting them go..)
@@georgemarco11 not every summer. Limited subset of players and half of them skip every other tournament.
I think I speak for alot of people when I say that this show has felt like a breath of fresh air in the NBA media world
Expecting an unbiased take from JJ and THE COMISSIONER is wild😂
Did you watch the clip? I did. Also, "unbiased" and "honest" are not the same thing. Plus, why would JJ come down on one side or the other and how would that affect his questions?
Being “unbiased” is a mythical illusion people want to believe actually exists
@@devilpistons1269 After reading various comments over the years, the majority of the people don't even understand the word ''biased'' means. They think they do understand but they misuse the word too often. Yes these are the people with voting rights. Democracy is a joke.
Did you even watch it you 🤡
Things we need him to address
1. Refs being soft
2. Players flopping
3. In season tournaments
This man loves basketball, he loves the NBA.
This interview deserves a subscribe.
Would injuries go up or down if players didn’t listen to trainers and not take designated rest days? Idk if there’s a psychological component to knowing what days you’re playing and which you’re not.
If you’re always in go mode, maybe the minor injuries aren’t as bad but you’re more prone to catastrophic ones as opposed to resting due to smaller injuries and preventing the big ones.
Players load manage to prolong their careers netting them multi-million dollars. Let's stay on topic
@@SkiLILs your comment should be the end all be all but there’s still discourse🤔
Idk about the inconclusive evidence silver has his talking points on. It'd be crazy to think that 3 games in one week for a month would cause the same amount of injuries as 5 games a week. I also think the idea of playing 20 less games per year prolongs your career. Sure it should give you some time tacked on the end of your physical abilities, but a full year? Contract? Meh. I'd assume there's more gained in not having those "extra" games causing the injuries which takes time off your career. Calling regular season games "extra" made me physically gag right there. I hate this crap but I completely understand the reasoning. Same as the spam 3pt shot
@@benw7367it isn't that crazy if that team has a coach similar to Thibs that are too reliant on their starters or certain players
You deserve every single sub JJ! Believe it brother
Years ago, randy Smith was known as the fastest player in the game. He was a rocket up and down the court. He played 907 consecutive games. I don’t know what’s wrong with these guys today
Teams forget load management worked originally in San Antonio because the city and Fans understood it was solely to extend the number years on the players. (Since they were a older team at the time.) but it was a team effort in accordance with the fans and city. Nowadays feels like players took advantage of it.
Get rid of back-to-backs. Extend the season time-frame by 2-3 weeks, and those 14 or so back-to-backs per team can go bye-bye. Nearly all of the load management players sit out only back-to-backs. Then if someone tries to load manage, they should get fined since they have sufficient rest anyways. Shorter offseason yes, but I think fans that go to games to see their favorite player will never be disappointed again.
The NBA need to address these issues: Players fouling out and players getting ejected. We don't want to see it!
Fouling out is fine, we don't want to see 50 free throws either and if one guy is fouling a lot then that's a skill issue. But ejections do need to be looked at, they give out techs way too easy.
Change the foul-out number to seven, or make it a one-shot tech at six or more. If Jokic, Giannis, Zion, Wemby, etc. get three fouls early in the second quarter, do we really want to see them on the bench? What purpose does it serve? It's usually the result of bad officiating, anyway - just like technical fouls! @@maxumis1
Love your content, JJ. Just a heads up that the title on this clip has a typo: “responisible” 😂.
Stayed up and watched a few games recently in the U.K. on tnt sports. It comes across like some players don’t care about losing, only early in the season so don’t go all out and win. You can tell players are playing to avoid injury so the standard drops immediately
the “data” that changed between the all star break and the offseason was the new media rights deal.
the spurs started load management. but when kawhi won a title for the raptors by being load managed. it gave the rest of the league the green light to do the same.
6:18, If it's not coming from the players then they need to say that. And say it publicly too💯Load Management will DESTROY the game if Silver does not address it, and he know it. Silver can also put into the contract that if you are healthy and want to just "sit out" and not play, give each fan a FULL refund, the network broadcasting the game a FULL refund and take it OUT of the players check!💯That will stop load management in its tracks!
The league will be better with less games because the importance of each game will increase in regular season.
How does this not have more views?
At 8:20, Adam Silver briefly considers a 72 game season, prefacing with “putting aside the economic sacrifice, that’s real”.
I challenge this economic assumption. If the NFL increased from 17 games to 50 games, their overall revenue would surely decrease due to the dilution of game quality, as stars would be forced to rest half the games, lowering viewership. There is a certain regular season length N that should maximize revenue, and for the NBA it is not clear at all whether N is less than 82, more than 82, or exactly 82.
If a minimum wage worker tried to tell his boss that he needed a few days off for load management, that boss would find a new worker. These players are paid MILLIONS of dollars. They know what they signed up for. They should play every game they physically can. And don't even get me started on FAKE injuries so teams can tank.
Big typo in the thumbnail guys
Just go to 76 games and take out the play in and go back to top 8 seeds.
Every team plays their:
division 4x(2 home and 2 away)=16 games
Conference(excluding division play) 3x(third game is home one year, away the next)=30 games
The other conference 2x(one home and one away)=30 games
This pretty much takes out any back to backs or give extra time off during all star break, as the season will be shortened by 2 weeks. Maybe even go back to opening night being on Halloween.
When fans pay for their ticket, they don’t get a discount when the stars aren’t playing. Easy fix is players can have all of the load management and games off they want, but they don’t get paid for not playing. The average Joe doesn’t get paid for not showing up to work. The owners get a discount as they shouldn’t pay max money for minimal participation.
I agree and what if they pick a day that the favorite player is not playing? I have favorite players I want to go see. For example I want to see Ja play after his suspension is up if he not playing then i don’t want to be there unless it’s other stars on the opposite team if that makes sense
@@SelfPreservation6 exactly. Get a discount on the ticket proportional to the amount that the star takes up on the teams salary cap perhaps or the option of a full refund.
damn how did JJ manage to get an interview with Adam SIlver
Any one who can add and subtract can put together that playing less minutes reduces the odds of getting injured, just like cliff diving or miles driven or # of times you try to rob a store
But injuries are far more rampant now with load management then they ever were in the old days. Almost as if keeping your muscles and ligaments in use is more beneficial then rest.
If the stars want to “load management” ticket buyers should get a load management price. Players used to take pride in playing every game for the fans. They are entertainers, if healthy play! The owe it to their fans.
Get Bron to pod when 1mil HITS , thanks!
I don't have a problem with load management, the problem is transparency. If I go to a Warriors game and Steph ain't playing because of "load management", I think fans should get a percentage of their money back. We come to see stars. Respect your paying customers. Punish the teams that don't. That's ultimately what it boils down to.
in that case there'll be no load management. you can't prove a player is not sick or something and he can't play...?
Yeah steph sat out against my home team last year. Didn't find out til the day of. Here I am taking my nephew to see steph, but steph needed "rest". Was some bullshit for sure. I'll never buy tickets to an NBA game again. Especially cause they upcharge for games with superstars. I could've went and seen the pacers for a 3rd of what I paid to see the warriors minus steph. Disgusting
The thumbnail caption is spelled wrong lol
In 2022 Game 6 of the NBA Finals was the most viewed NBA event. It ranked as the 108 most viewed sporting events. The NBA DIDNT BREAK THE TOP 107. At. All.
NBA means “not bothering anyway”.
The issue is that 2/3 of the league make playoffs. It’s so ridiculously easy to make playoffs that there is no point in even trying in the regular season. The regular season is basically just a glorified practice for the playoffs. A sport like baseball has always had the best regular season because so few team make playoffs that there is actually urgency in the regular season. 6 teams per conference should make playoffs with the top 2 getting a first round bye
NBA should have the power to reverse technicals/ejections.
It’s a statistical fact that if you play zero games then you will not get injured while playing.
It’s such a nothing in the grand scheme of things but I want home/away jerseys bein a damn thing again
Ok but who is "responisible" for the spelling in the thumbnail 😂
All star game should be held in summer time, then you push back the in season tournament game to February.
Jj got the commissioner this bor doing his thing I told yall he's next 💯💯🔥🔥🔥
I feel like load management wouldn't even be a thing without so many back to backs
All I can think about when Adam Silver is talking is how David Stern would explain it.
The explanation would be shorter and definitive.
I blame fans playing a big part in resting. Fans have put so much emphasis on winning that a players career means nothing if he doesn't win titles. So now there is no pride in Regular season. Resting players for the playoffs doesn't necessarily scream "I care about Regular season anything." Only amount of Games that matter now are 16-20 in the playoffs. The product is in turn watered down. I'm a little salty about it because I bought tickets to see the Lakers play in person last season on my birthday and both LeBron and AD sat and we didn't know until right before the game. Those tickets weren't cheap either.
That is a symptom of the media
This is a good point that doesn't get talked about enough. The entire culture around the NBA (media, fans, players, owners) openly call the regular season worthless all the time. And then it becomes a spiral that feeds itself (if fans don't care, players don't care, which causes media to talk more about what players wore to the game and narrative making bs than the actual game results, rinse and repeat cycle)
MJ relished the challenge to play 82 games in a season.
GOAT
the NBA is unusual in playing 3 games / week then having a huge break, should stretch out the season at least another month
What about there being potentially too many games in the season. That should be discussed as well as a factor going into load Mgmt decisions
Say whatever you want about Adam Silver but he is so much better than all other commissioners in north american sport
JJ is the best
I can’t imagine why any player would be for load management. If the nba loses 10% of its revenue the super max contracts and overall pay will just be way less. It’s not complicated to see that.
The players wouldn't be the only 1s losing money.
75 games but still ends at mid to late April should be okay. loosens up team calendars to avoid back to backs and more recovery time for minor injuries.
Reduce the season to approximately 70 games to help with load management and also urgency! If each game is worth more, that greatly incentivizes playing
It is not that easy. I mean salary will be less. Also players who wants to break some NBA records will be difficult for them since there will be less games.
@@llbuitre yes, all of that may be true (except the lower salaries). I am not convinced they will lose that much money as urgency benefits viewership, as well as makes games more exciting in general. Players will play harder. Show up to more games. There is, I'm sure, some penalty but I don't think it's going to fundamentally harm their bottom line that much. The records thing is fair. That's the tough one imo
J.J would you rather have a shorter season or a shorter playoff series ?
Teams just don't find it necessary to have their players playing all 82 games.. If the NBA consider shorten the regular season like make it First round and Second round format where in each teams will meet each other twice in regular season.. Then make the playoffs as a crossover top 16.1st seed vs 16th seed.. But at the end of the day it is still a business more games more revenue for the league in general..
Idc about load management now, ask him about them refs man smh
yes Mr. Silver we can tell you like politics
The biggest problem in NBA is draft procedure. Tanking is destroying the regular season 40% of the games they have no interest because one team wanna lose.
Every team the same chances for No1. And all will be fixed.
The over/under on the number of lawyers behind the camera is 4.5
He doesn’t need to do all these gimmicks like this in-season tournament. Only 2 things he needs to work on - 1) get rid of load mgt for all players (not just star players). Any trainers coming with their charts and graphs about a player running hot, that’s an automatic job termination. 2) reign in the refs on all these power trip calls over the most minor things
I don’t think anyone is responisible honestly. But I for sure think someone is responsible.
Bruh nobody never ask Adam why is it that the Refs make these terrible calls/no calls, eject players early over non sense but if the players say anything about the refering that game he gets fined🤔
Personally, I don't really like load management.
Nowadays, there are fewer superstar players who play every game than there used to be.
I hate load management all together
JJ, Adam smoked you on your SMUG remark about Silver changing his mind!!! Smoked!!!
They need to emphasize the importance of home court advantage. So many teams disregard it so they don’t care about seeding. You’re telling me the Lakers loved starting in Denver last season? No.
58 league games like every sport world wide, 1 game home and 1 game away, its not complex. this what soccer does in Europe.
We tried it the results were not what we thought. So let's go a diff direction.
We act like these people are on minimum wage. If you don’t play, you don’t get all you money, simple. You get a minimum salary till you play again. They will still be better off than 99% of people.
If you are healthy….do your best to play every game you can like the GOATs of the NBA 💯
How about we tackle techs taking away from the game
Oopsie on the spelling in the thumbnail
Idk where to start about the refs this year..literally the commentators are even left speechless after most of the stuff that's been happening..I really think theres a narrative to every game for the refs..for example last night Zion missed 3 freethrows straight and the refs kept blessing him with lane violations..it just seems like the refs have a strict criteria for each specific player..
Refs need to start getting fined. Been saying it since 2017!
Fans don't spend NBA money to watch G-league players. If players don't want to play 82, fans shouldn't pay for 82. No one is happy when you pay for 16 oz of coffee and they give you 10.
You'd never see Adam silver on ats or nochillgil