Why More People should use Cockpit Camera
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- Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2022
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Camera settings:
Camera: TV Pod Offset
Field of view: -13
Offset lateral: -12
Offset horizontal: 2
Offset vertical: 0
Angle: 0
Near Clip Plan: 0
Mirror angle: 0
Camera shake: 0
Camera movement: 0
FFB settings (Ingame)
Vibration and Force Feedback Strength: 73
On Track Effects: 15
Rumble strip effects: 25
Off track effects: 25
Wheel damper: 5
Wheel rotation: 360
Understeer enhance: OFF
FFB settings (Inwheel - Fanatec DD1 + Clubsport V2 wheel)
Wheel rotation: 370
FFB: 70
Shock/Vibration: 100
ABS: OFF
Natural damper: 15
Natural friction: OFF
Brake force: MIN
FFB Intensity: 100
MPS Function: Auto
Calibration:
Steering deadzone: 0
Steering linearity: 0
Steering saturation: 0
Throttle deadzone: 3
Throttle linearity: 0
Throttle saturation: 0
Brake deadzone: 5
Brake linearity: 0
Brake saturation: 0
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I always use Cockpit Cam because about 2 years ago, I decided Sim Racing for me wasn't about finding ways to get an advantage and be a bit faster, but it was about having fun and experiencing what real racing was like.
This is why I hate some youtubers and esports. They take unrealistic lines and use weird/ugly camera angles to be "fast".
I do the same since i started. I love the immersive cam with shaking and everything. And it makes so much more fun!
Same here, it's call sim for a reason and that's why cockpit cam is for me.
I’m with you too on this one, I’ve used cockpit cam since the beginning, I’m not the quickest with it but it feels realistic and more fun with the camera shake
@@FlagnarBoobz that's more so the game engines fault.
Gamers will always find ways to abuse the system, the more realistic the physics the more realistic the lines of alien/esport drivers will be.
F1 games are purely arcade games with a very crude physics engine. So once u get fast laptimes, things start to get wonky.
Yea, i've never understood why this is not enforced in F1 esports
Exactly! The points I've heard/seen against it is that it's harder to see around the car ... but that's how it is for real drivers. Of course it should be enforced in eSports and be made optional to enforce in league/multiplayer racing.
If e-drivers can't handle cockpit view, then they should go play Mario Cart instead. F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle of racing, right? So why this wimpy way of driving. It's more immersive and closer to the real deal in cockpit view.
@@torbenlysholm1 if f1 22 gamers want to be recognized as full sim racers they should race cockpit view….but honestly its a arcade racer….so its more mario kart then iracing for example. And as long this game isnt a simulation it doenst matter what view they race….the experience is completely different and the expectations from a sim to a arcade racer as well.
It should be enforced in a "hardcore" mode where driver aids are not allowed, why should third person camera views be allowed?
Make it make sense.
@paper plane tbh the halo can get disabled in most sims.
If you're in VR the Halo doesn't matter to you bc of depth.
On 2d it's more obstructing than it would be IRL
This is the only view I've ever used!! I like it as real as possible and additionally I also bought VR to feel a little bit more connected
Same here. Only drive in VR, cockpit seated and keeping the halo in it as well. Love the immersion like that. Looking at the Yt videos using the tv pod feels to me like cheating even ;)
I’ve always use cockpit view!! Happy seeing you using it
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I'm empress that Limitless switched to cockpit cam, because I use it for all my racing sims. It's awesome and shows of your true skill if you were behind the wheel in real life. Some racing sims games have more sense of speed than others. Also, Granturismo is the only one that enforce this cam for their competition's. Witch is a good thing! F1 sim competition's should do the same!
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If they force cockpit view, then they HAVE to improve the FFB. Like you said, it's all about feeling connected to the car, and with the FFB the way it is in the F1 series, there's a lot of info that we're missing out on due to the lack of detail. I have no problem racing in cockpit view in AMS2/AC/etc because I get a lot of info through the FFB. In the F1 series, I use pod cam to supplement that lack of detail.
The ffb with the f1 cars is an absolut joke…
What you're not considering is that weirdly enough you do feel about two to three times as connected to the car in cockpit mode than you do in TV pod, so while it's still not much, it's definitely worth a try or two.
@@g2fiora I’ve definitely considered it, and race cockpit mode in other sims. The feedback in F1 series doesn’t come close to what you can get in other titles. What I’m saying is in Pod view, there are certain visual cues that you can rely on to get good times. In cockpit view, you have to rely more on the feel of the car because your FOV isn’t as wide. F1 needs better FFB to supplement cockpit view.
@@RyKnocks tbh correcting spins is a nightmare in pod view, while in cockpit cam you can see the wheel pretty clearly and correct every possible spin much sooner. I've improved a lot just in the first hour of cockpit cam, without having used it in any occasion before
loving the smiles JD thats what its all about. i actually for the first time prefer the cockpit cam but only as ive started learning wheel. controller race offset or by the air intake
I've only used cockpit cam. I want to experience the game as close as possible to the real F1 drivers, so I do all my league racing and everything in cockpit cam. I've gotten so used to doing only cockpit cam that I am actually around 5 tenths slower if I use any other cam.
Besides I have the halo enabled at all times, and I've gotten used to it as well. It's no more a hinderance for me
the halo enabled is more realistc and makes it more immersive personally ,always use it
@@lima_plays2492 totally agree
@@lima_plays2492 It is more unrealistic if anything. It takes up a way bigger portion of your view than it does irl.
i’ve recently been playing around with the cockpit view as well and i’ll definitely say it does seem to be a lot more intense, fun, & realistic but what I noticed is i tend to make a lot more mistakes due to the visibility of the camera view. You said it pretty perfectly. I think the reason why a lot of us use TVPod is for the visibility. Definitely would make E-sports more interesting though i will say that
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Nailed it!! Not as competitive in close combat due to visual restriction, but the experience is -so- much more rewarding!!
I always used cockpit cam in this game and i feel the same with what you feel, the sense of speed and you feel more connected to the car. and for me personally it adds more fun to racing in the f1 games
Finally! How I have it! You’ll enjoy it! Much more respect now!
I've just started to use this cam to drive, obviously removing the halo column for a matter of realism (3D reality vs 2D screen) and visibility, and I'm getting quite better. My pace has improved by 2 tenths just in 2-3 hours of practice in Time Trial. Most of all, though, I'm finding this cam super useful because it gives me a much better control of the car, also to correct spins in a smoother way. I thought it would've been a problem with track references or using all of the track itself, but watching replays from a on-board cam I noticed that I can keep a really consistent line. Driving around Imola with cockpit cam is a mesmerising experience, just 1.7 seconds off the best TT lap at the moment (which is great since I'm quite often up to 2-2.3 seconds off the best guy). Probably the only true problematic is handling duels, but I use the virtual rear mirror for that (which isn't cheating since the right and left ones can't be seen from this cam), plus AI cars are suicidal crazy mfs I can't predict even from the on-board camera, so whatever 😂
i love the downshifts from 8th to 5th for every corner
Good to see the smile back on your face while playing this game bro ❤
I actually started using cockpit cam bc of your vid from 3 months ago and I love it
to help with visibiity I turned on the virtual rear mirror since I can't see the actual mirrors
I lost a bit of pace when I started using it but I think I'm actually faster with it now than when I used TV pod
I didn’t know field of view and vertical adjustments were an option. I’m glad to know these are options and ur finding some sense of connection to the car. I haven’t really played with the F1 cars lately after feeling how good the F2 handling and feeling is
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I´ve used this a lot in career modes. It is a lot of fun
For a more real feeling and getting more involved in being in the cockpit.
Is remove the rear view hotkey and implement look left and right, gives you a big sense of what a real driver see!
finally, it was about time :D
I totally agree with you. I watch your videos all the times and use a lot of your setups. I always race inside the car and I think F1 Esport should have the drivers get in the car. You have a big advantage racing outside of the car because you see more of the track. In the car, you experience what the real F1 drivers see racing around the various tracks. Love all your videos also...very informative.
I'm delighted you've gone to the cockpit pov, i only ever played from cockpit every other view felt wrong to me!
i started using cockpit cam when i was struggling to feel the car on track. It helped me to even turn of the assists and also feel the track itself better
My son, a friend and I always use the cockpit view. Since I use cockpit view my time has improved
I’m so much slower in cockpit cam but I love the immersion from it
I play f1 22 in cockpit cam with no HUD at all. Its really immersive and makes you have to use the engineer a lot more too. Also halo pillar on adds even more to it.
I like cockpit without the halo column. I agree e sports should use it with whatever monitor setup they please. It’s the closest to feeling like you’re in the car without vr. Also you can easily see past the column when in VR because 2 eyes and what not. Maybe if they could have a visibility slider so you can still see it’s there but still through it.
I made the permanent switch in F12017 and won't go back. Once you get over the mental hurdle of experience > fastest possible time, It just makes the game so much more immersive. I personally like the halo on, I find it forces you to look ahead. I set up my wheel to have dedicated look left/right, and adjust the cam so my SF1000 looks like it is in the car on screen. I turn steering animation off because of this and rely on my wheel for everything but ERS (Xbox compatibility issue) so I turn telemetry on and place it over the game wheel so that I just have to peer over the wheel to see my 🔋%. That could also theoretically solve your telemetry problem for streaming. Never made sense to me that cockpit cam wasn't enforced in ESports. The game should be played at the maximum difficulty at the highest level of play, no?
BTW JD, you actually do have access to the hud in cockpit mode. You just have to activate the option. It's somewhere in either the OSD or video options.
My friends and I play strictly in cockpit cam with almost all of the ui elements turned off. We leave the MFD and proximity arrows turned on. All other information we have to either get from our wheel or calling back to the pit wall. Is good fun. We've been jumping in to F1 2020 and racing the classic F1 cars and it's been a blast. I really hope that they bring that back instead of focusing on supercars and couches.
Have litterly used cockpit cam the last 2 season now can just say so much more fuuun big ups!!
I will say that for me, when it comes to having fun, nothing beats vr. It's just so immersive.
the goxley guy was actually a really decent driver because you could see they werent using assists either by tiny lockups or the same quality exits
Tip: Turn on motion blur to simulate a more 'sense of speed'. Helmet mode 'on' (volume option) is great too for a change.
I dont find the option. I know it was there in f1 2021
The Pros & Cons of Using the Cockpit Camera
1. Makes racing a bit more intense
2. Makes you feel more connected to the car
3. Makes you see the track a little bit better
4. Makes the sense of speed better
5. Gives you the competitive edge
Cons
1. You could hardly see the track
2. You never know when you'll crash into your opponent when you get next to them
3. Sometimes, it can make racing a little bit too intense. In fact, it can get so intense that the race will be hard for you to win.
4. Your visibility is severely impacted
5. The Chase Cam is far better for you if you're a beginner
I’ve been using cockpit cam for about half a year now. Halo part being removed is a must cause I have 1 screen and can’t see anything in front of me with it. It started as just for realism around Miami thing I liked it and hated myself for it because of the increased difficulty. I race with cockpit cam and 0 hud on and I’m on controller. Knowing when people are diving down the inside or sitting in a blind spot is definitely the hardest part but it’s a lot more fun than with a hud and a different cam
I've been cockpit cam from pretty much day 1. I like the intensity and after the first few laps when you get into that Zen of almost driving without thought you can almost trick you mind into thinking you're actually there. Hasn't really disadvantaged me in League racing whatsoever.
Came all the way from Tier 4 in my league early this year and I'm now in the highest tier going into the next seasom all in cockpit. Will be racing the likes of Otis Lawrence though I'll certain won't be anywhere near him. I'm just happy I've got this far using only cockpit cam.
One thing to note - the more tele lens you go - the slower it will feel. If you go more fish eye ( bigger FOV) it's perceived a lot faster.
i started driving in that camera in F1 21 already, because it also feels like i have more control over the steering in the slow corners. probably just my imagination, but it seems like i can steer in a little bit more xD
I've used cockpit cam always, and feel like it has actually made me a safer driver due to the lack of visibility, since I would shy away from any move where I'm not 100% confident I've got enough space to pull it off.
Totally agreed with you on this one✌🏽good video
I always use cockpit Camera in the F1 games. I also do career mode videos in Cockpit Camera. Playing in the cockpit cam feels much more immersive than the TPod camera. Just started in RUclips with cockpit camera videos and looking forward to some great gameplays ahead.
I started doing this after your first Cockpit camera video, and I haven't gone back. I even use the same view on every other teaching game on Xbox as well. I would suggest you move your FOV closer still, and if you find your view of the road ahead a bit crunched, raise your vertical offset to compensate. The rain you should move it forward is because of where your hands are. My screen is only about a foot behind my wheel base, so taking that in consideration, you should not be able to see your steering wheel, which is in your hands, on the screen as well, which is a foot further back. It's like driving from the back seat of a car. Your arms aren't that long. Anyway, just an idea that works for me and increases my submersion into the race. Try it out. You might like it. For the record mine is fully forward, with a slight vertical offset to allow me to see more of the road and less of the virtual steering wheel.
I’ve been using cockpit for a bit and my enjoyment of the f1 games drastically increased when I started. It feels more real. If they would make the cars grip up more like real life I think everyone would like that. They’d be more driveable and fun to race wheel to wheel.
Ya I started out sims a year ago, wanted to make it feel as real as I could so started using cockpit cam a few months back, so much fun and I've found my times better
I agree the cockpit view should be the eSport view. And it should be just like the assists in lobby settings, the view should be an option to be open or close.
You should turn the head swivel option on so that when you turn your eyes look towards the apex. You can adjust the sensitivity too to make sure the swivel isn't too aggressive.
I don't recommend this as when you have this setting on you miss the small movements of the car and so it's harder to catch oversteer.
I play in a Norwegian league where one of the tiers is no assist/cockpit cam only which makes it alot more fun for sure
definitely emotion speaking when you said "I'm f**king done with this game man" hahaha
Used TV-pod on my first F1 game in 2020. Changed to Cockpit on F1 2021 and I can't even get back to T-pod again because T-Pod feels super understeery. This is something I noticed right away when I changed to cockpit cam is that the car turns so much better. People say it's because of the perspective but that never made much sense to me. All camera angles make the car feel like it has a huge understeer /unresponsivness where Cockpit just turns where I want it to turn.
i use cockpit mode exclusively, it does make the racing a bit more fun for sure.
If you’re going to use cockpit view, I definitely recommend turning down the camera shake, camera movement, and look to apex. I have them set to 1/1/0 and it makes the car feel less floaty.
I'm a noob and always use cockpit cam even though the pros don't. Way more immersive which is why I bought the game. Immersion.
I always used cockpit view because with some setup, it feels like i'm in the car. I can see why people use the television camera, especially in esports.
So, should they force it? i think yes, because it is a skill to have an overview with a more limited field of view. You can do unexpected overtakes, also there's a higher margin for error which would bring more action. I would love it, but i don't think they'll do it - its been to long with no camera restrictions.
that was intense!
Hi JD, for what regards the problem of the acceleration/brake and ers bar there is an option to put it in the cockpit camera too
Your video on what you'd like to see in F1 23.. I'd like to see the ability to restrict camera settings (not FOV specific, but camera type). I had committed to making the switch for this game for my own sake, but after about 2 months I went back to TV pod and was legitimately half a second or so faster a lap just due to having that better visibility. It's unfortunate that cockpit cam just hampers you too much on spacial awareness and visibility of the track. I would league race in a league that had it mandatory.
Would love the cockpit view hope they can add the rpm meter in the steering wheel
Yes, rpm meter is the thing that is missing on wheel indeed. Really important while you start a race with manual start option.
Top tip for turn on motion blur it helps Sense of speed
What they need to add is full triple screen support.
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hi what are the exact view settings you used. that would be very helpful
Think adjusting the default fov/angle to be more immersive and promoting it in trailers 50/50 with TV pod would be good first step, refine ffb and sense of speed a lil and it would be a winner 🙂👍❤️
I use the alt nose option, but I put it on a huge OLED and it’s like the front end of my car is life size
You need three screens, that is so nice to drive!
Always cracks me up people spend 1000's on Sim equipment for immersion but proceed to use a bumper or hood cam 🙈
Bout time you joined us Cockpit view guys. Never have used anything other than Cockpit, it's honestly the best way to play, Everything else feels like a replay or watching tv to me.
I agree as well as many of us simracers in your channel. Its like cheating when not driving from cockpit. We are simracers guys. I respect those who are taking the challenge to drive realistic scenarious in every way you can.
Cockpit view is the way to go. Realism, as the driver eye cams have now proved. With an ultrawide monitor, low eye - screen distance and correct FOV, the mirrors are visible and useful.
Other views should count as an assist.
This is the reason why i got an ultrawide screen. and cockpit is fun... I am trying to build a dash so i can scroll through the screens and get rid of OSD.
This is the only I’ve ever driven the F1 games, granted a little bit wider and with apex looking (on a 48 or 50 inch tv at 24 inches from my eyes). I also try to reduce the screen hud aids most of the time (but very hard as the F1 engineers are too slow - I once lost a race because of a DT penalty during a SC and the engineer told me just as I passed the pit entry that I had to serve that).
If more people should use cookpit cam, they need to fix it so you can see the mirrors without looking to either left or right. That is a must
Do you have 3 monitors to see mirrors? Having only one small monitor i usually use virtual mirror at center when I'm in cockpit, otherwise i wouldn't have the possibility of seeing mirrors apart from using an orribile FOV
was using cockpit cam ever since F1 2012 .. Immersion is key
I think that it was on F1 2010 that you HAD to use the cockpit cam for the hardest in career mode. It's again one of those features where i think *why was it removed*
Switched to cockpit cam a while ago and i dont know why but i even became a bit faster and cleaner in my races. My main argument to use cockpit cam over TV Pod is the gain of fun
There's a weird bug with the Alfa Romeo where the wing mirrors display the same image so you don't know if someone is on your left or right as its showing the same thing on each mirror. Bit of an odd bug to be car specific 😅
It depends because in acc and ac I use the dash cams but in f1 22 I use tv cam as I prefer it on f1 22
Yep, yep. I always go cockpit cam, so much more fun
Since using a sim rig ive always used cockpit vie, but without the wheel and arms view. Not sure if you can do this in F1?
I absolutely love cockpit cam. I used to exclusively use it. But I feel like online, and even just in general, there’s always a little bit of time I can find outside of cockpit view compared to being in it. I feel like it’s just because it’s easier to see your surroundings and see in front of you a bit but it really is much more fun in cockpit view. I wish there was an online mode that forced everyone into this view.
Is this also relatable on belt drive CSL elite, in terms of being able to feel the car and catch it instead of reacting on image and be late almost all of the time? I'm way to susceptible to oversteer lately and it's messing massively with my league results. Love your stuff and keep on keepin' on! 💪
VR is the only serious view to use in my opinion.
Using that too for a couple of months and I much prefer it from any other.
I actually drive better using this and I can feel the car better.
I personally went for the “real as I can get” and I wanted a challenge.. I felt when playing in TVP, it just wasn’t as fun.. I could just flat out certain areas I wouldn’t in cockpit due to I couldn’t see it.. so really it is a dual-edged sword for me. If more raced this way.. it would be much better tho.
Hey, take out the OSD and you will have much more fun! I was using cockpit and also tried out that and the feeling is much more better
I only drive in cockpit cam, ever since i got my first F1 game, i like being immersed, and yes i play with the halo on..
I drive all my league races in cockpit and if you get used to you start to see what happens even of the view is a bit blocked it your pretty much as fast or even faster than with tv pod.
I did the opposite: since I always use cockpit cam yesterday I tried for the first time TV pod cam and...well is it me or I don't know but it seems like the Force Feedback is somewhat different...is that possible? Or it's only my imagination?
I have been using cockpit mode I am slower but wow way more fun it’s what Imagine F1 to be
Tbh i think they should compulsory enable cockpit view camera for f1 eSports series or any other e-series out there though viewers perspective will be normal. With camera angle current players use isn't fun bcz it's easy to predict and not much of competition in players. The advantage that angle provides is huge
Although F1 game doesn't interest me and I don't play it, I have positive experience using cockpit cam in AC and AMS2.
It feels like I can exploit setup much more and make corrections mid corner when a car is on the edge of grip.
Outside cam makes it seem your car is always understeering.
Kinda as if you are rolling some wooden board on a perfectly flat surface lol!
Hey JD! Did you post this cause of my comment from before? Thanks
What are your cockpit camera settings??? I thought my settings were good until I saw yours
if cockpit view was to be implemented, then would vr be allowed (to maximise visibility and awareness of the cars around you)?
I love cockpit cam but i wish there was also an option to turn the halo completly off. I know its part of the car but without it, it just feels much nicer to drive
Would it be possible too show ur cockpit settings