What is Canon in Devil May Cry?
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I think the DMC1 Novel was retconned to be BEFORE the DMC3 Manga. Because Dante gets ebony and ivory in the novel from Nell and already has them in the DMC3 Manga. Also, Nell and the events of the novel are mentioned in canon material like DMC5 so it definitely happened. This means it was likely before the DMC3 manga
Alot of retcon
It was never retconned to be before the Manga since the novel came out first. The Manga retconned parts of the first Novel, for example, most of the parts about Gilver being Vergil, and how long it had been since Dante had seen Vergil.
@@SleepyEvelen you are right to a certain degree, but it has to have happened because the characters and events are mentioned in DMC5. Not to forget the interviews.... So we have to assume it happened before DMC3 manga or how else would it fit?
@@majinrebornx2220 you aren't wrong but I meant more like it couldn't change the storyline since it came after the first game. I meant it more like it was every other novel and game retconned the what the first novel had.
@@SleepyEvelen Yeah, I do I know what you mean. But for continuity sake we have to assume that the retcons are in place to make the timeline fit together because of the weird releases and lore building over the years
Like how Trish was made in the image of Dante's mother Eva, Gilver was made by Mundus in the image of Virgil.
„Why do you always stick your nose into other family's business? Come on dude, don't you have any hobbies?“
~Dante
Nah, I’d win.
Win?I'd nah
are you the strongest because you’re nah i’d win? or are you jogoat because you’re the one who left it all behind
Be proud
Yes, you'd lose.
nah you get bodied by Sakuna
Actually IF you watched the livestream recently you’d know that POC is canon the developers mentioned it I have a screen recording too if you want it
Also the anime lands in the same year as the DMC2 novel and game
Can you upload it and link it here? I would LOVE to see It.
Me too! That would silence the nay sayers
Oh good to know. I thought Peak Of Combat was a non canon game which had some parts that were canon one of them being the existence of Pluto.
As in the Roman god of the Underworld Pluto? If so that’s cool.
@@Hedron1027 No, but dmc takes inspiration from it. Because they made A demon named Pluto the first ruler of the underworld.
@@drako.g Oh that’s cool actually. I’m surprised there’s nothing related to Hades not counting Cerberus and King Cerberus.
And now I have to listen to people saying thAT DoNtE is ( dimEnsiOnaL and except their right, thanks a lot Capcom
9:05 Worth noting that Nero talks to a God figure near/at the end of DMC4 about his arm
I just want more info on Pluto was really the beginning like the first thing to ever exist or was there like a series of gods as well like maybe other gods that he trapped or something?
Can you do a video on Kratos’ speed feats cause there is a bit of confusion as to how fast he generally is, and would love some more god of war content
Well, I find the DMC canon very strange.
I don’t remember it being stated that the DMC 2 novel takes place before the game. Yes, it is mentioned in the novel, but only in the English version, and I couldn’t find the original version to see if that information was actually there.
I find it very unlikely that the DMC 2 novel is canon, since the events were never mentioned again. After all, I think going to another universe and facing an alternate version of Mundus should at least be mentioned more than once or in the recap of Devil May Cry 5, considering even the anime is mentioned. So, it’s hard to consider it canon, especially since it contains contradictory information, such as demons being able to cause fear, insanity, etc., just with their presence, and common humans not being affected by this. There's also an interview where it’s said that some novels are canon, but since it’s not specified and since it’s never mentioned again, you could say that this novel is not canon.
The DMC 1 light novel is complicated, as Nell Goldstein is mentioned in a tweet. Nelo Angelo is a different case; they say he was retconned to be a clone of Vergil, but I haven’t seen any confirmation of this. However, Grue and Jessica are mentioned in Before the Nightmare. So, for me, it’s a kind of secondary canon.
Me currently playing the dmc definitive edition not caring bc im one of those weirdos who has it as their favorite dmc…..right after dmc3. Im sorry I juss actually enjoy the reboot and something abt young black haired Dante goin crazy gives me a reason to play
You should go over with every crossover and see if any are Canon or could be. Like after dmc2 Dante does SMT 3 and beats lucifer then he becomes the devil arm wielded by Dante in Dmc 4
Lucifer the Devil Arm was got from Berial.
@@tarisoala9717 nah according to the deadly fortune novel, Dante already defeated a demon called Lucifer and got his devil arm before the order somehow acquired it.
@@DevilHunter-777Dante does sell his devils arms and weapon he acquired so maybe that's how the order obtain the Lucifer Devil's Arm.
Thank you for making this video I cleared up a lot of confusion.
(Video Idea)
What if Dante consumed Qliphot Fruit? Because Vergil unlocked his SDT when he consumed the Fruit, while Dante unlocked his while he merged Sparda's Demonic sword and Rebellion. How powerful would Dante be?🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Did Vergil get his SDT by consuming fruit?
@@arturikartur9955 Yes because when Urizen consumed the fruit he was more powerful, when V and Urizen Merged together Vergil came back with SDT
And Fruit affected Vergil too
@@Retr0_DeD0 he actually got his sdt after accepting his weakness. Now how ironic is that? The visions of V manga show it better
@@MotivatedSonOfSparda didn't read Manga's
My boy VERGIL!!!
I understood the timeline in a video but there were information that were unclear thanks to your information. The reboot is not connected to the Devil May Cry Canon or whatever they call it but it’s another timeline. Same characters but different Personality’s and Story Eva instead being Angel than Human and Sparta not being a Legendary dark Knight but just a Demon. We have seen Angels in DMC4 but they are Robots and the not real angels and they are instead call Angelos
The „angels“ in dmc4 are demons/evil spirits in Angelo armors. Those armors are forged by Machiavelli, the best smith in the demon world. There is absolutely nothing angelic about those „angels“.
Pretty sure itsuno even stated that there’re no angels nor heaven in dmc. Kinda weird considering that fallen priests exist in dmc3.
@@MotivatedSonOfSparda the angelo armours are basically copy of the armours Machiavelli made.
so does the order go like this?
dmc 1 novel
dmc 3 manga
dmc 3 game
dmc poc
dmc 1 game
dmc anime
dmc 2 novel
dmc 2 game
dmc 4 novel
dmc 4 game
dmc 5 novel
dmc 5 game/visions of V manga
Pretty much tho technically it's DMC4/DMC4 Novel the novel just fleshes out the things we don't see in the cutscenes because DMC4 just like most DMC games is always unfinished lmao
My biggest issue with DMC 2 is dantes personality being dead. Not sure if this was ever explained.
Nah originally it was at the end of the timeline so we assumed it was because everyone he known was dead but comes to find out he's just depressed in DMC2. Since DMC2 takes place in the same year as the anime we see Dante depressed and drinking a lot then he is somewhat depressed after Patty leaves and in the DMC 2 novel he makes jokes but is still shown to be somewhat depressed.
How come dmc5 isn’t mentioned?
Wait, what about CD Dramas?
Those are canon too
V is supposed to be all human being the human half of Vergil right, so how come he can still control demons
It's more of what makes him human and Demon
Just because they re split in half doesn't mean V can't use his Demon powers. He is just extremely weak. In the Manga to cover up that weakness he had to make a Pack with the DMC 1 Demons (that's how he got those tattoos)
But in DMC 5 it also states that When V was dying he was running out of Demonic energy to keep himself together.
You better cut that peak of combat segment from the video, its a fucking gacha game with 0 story whatsoever
…….anyone 26 and older knowing it wasint suppose to make sense, it was built like a one shot wonder when it came out. They just started putting a story together on the 4th and 5th games because they wanted to make more money with more games….anyways there’s the simple answer. Y’all ain’t gotta watch this video of this kid explaining it.
Still a cool vid. I mean if your 26 and older HERE on this vid I can only assume Yu WANTED to invest in knowin the lore. It’s ok dude go be a scrub somewhere else and hate
Like no one said your old self had to click on the vid nice try bro Juss wanted to start chattin ina comments to get attention
@@DivineXK child you should shut up now. When your mind can’t conceive what I said, you just got offended.
just sub kinda worth it
the only canon is Dante and Vergil are still competing non stop
So….are angels canon or not? In my mind Nero is 1/4 demon, 1/4 angel, and 2/4 human. Half demon father and a half angel mother. This is why he is so powerful, can regenerate body parts, and why his DT looks like a demonic angel.
TECHNICALLY a long time ago there was a statement that angels and gods did not exist however DMC 2 lore says otherwise that they existed however were turned into Demons. Which adds up with a lot of the lore since it mentions gods a lot of time.
Ive seen people who played the game and alot say its non canon. Hell one article online says non canon.
Peak of combat really canon?
Its mobile game made by Chinese company and design to play as gacha game, idk why people think its Canon lol
@@Aripuni1 because capcom supervised it and poc stated itself that it is considered to be canon.
No it's not, a dev said it's not 100% canon and is a alternative universe, the dude who made up the PoC upgrade fooled everyone with fake scans.
@@Vitor20XX What developer said this? I have the actual video where they state that Capcom supervised it and they are keeping the lore as close as possible to the console games so what dev said this?
@@Vitor20XXthat was said in a stream that was later hidden and now it’s not possible to see it again and “confirm” that
I'll just treat poc as a spin off game
i'm sorry but this video is awful and just makes me more confused.
i think that a good place to start might be listing all of the dmc material in release order and then in chronological order. after that, you can do a deep dive into the things that may cause confusion
You wilding
@@jayyy1677 what do you mean by "wilding"?
What caused confusion in this video?
@@collinthesage7436 i explained in my comment. go read my recommendation
This video is actually good wym