The Who "Bargain" live 2002 Hollywood (1st show after John Entwistle's death)

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  • Опубликовано: 3 авг 2013
  • The very first concert after John Entwistle's death a few days earlier. Before performing "Bargain", Pete talks briefly about missing John and I really thought his eyes were about to tear. Very sad.
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  • @fredmccaskill5476
    @fredmccaskill5476 8 лет назад +190

    Pete was their brains Roger was their voice Keith was their heartbeat and John was their soul. That is IMMORTALITY.

    • @shonenmarc1569
      @shonenmarc1569 7 лет назад +9

      Fred McCaskill couldn't have said it better myself ☺

    • @catherinefitzpatrick9144
      @catherinefitzpatrick9144 7 лет назад +8

      Marc_ RKO And, then Fred went and took the words right outta my mouth! I will always say: Long Live The Who; wherever they may be, and however older they're getting (aren't we all?), as long as I have breath, and, Dear Lord; ears for hearing them, I will always want to be listening to The Who; the International Treasure that I treasure with all my heart!

    • @RSTI191
      @RSTI191 6 лет назад +2

      Well said..

    • @mattneff6770
      @mattneff6770 6 лет назад +8

      Fred McCaskill great to see Roger and Pete hug

    • @christinelackey1794
      @christinelackey1794 4 года назад

      And I'm the FORCE in the dark behind the veil...behind it all n behind you...looking for ewes to get behind me... Can ya get behind it man..or is it BEYOND U..

  • @w1lf1ewoo
    @w1lf1ewoo 3 года назад +37

    In Pete's autobiography he says the real reason they carried on was because The Who's insurers would not have covered them for J.E's death , it being largely due to his cocaine and alcohol intake. He says " While the fans would have understood if we had cancelled the tour, the insurers would not and they would have had to refund all the tickets"... and while Pete (and perhaps Roger) could have afforded to return home without pay, their huge dedicated road crew could not and so they came to the financial and philosophical conclusion to go ahead...must have been very tough!

  • @bamboosa
    @bamboosa 9 лет назад +80

    Pete is a badass on that guitar solo. Death is an illusion. Transforming from the physical to the non-physical can really bum one's friends and/or family. See ya later Thunderfingers.

  • @nigelsanford7136
    @nigelsanford7136 Год назад +20

    What makes this so emotional aside the obvious reason is Pete's solo. John encouraged and pushed him to play all the guitar himself, thus giving him the push needed to be a guitar god. What a solo. May the ox rest in the arms of eternity.

  • @socallowbrow8851
    @socallowbrow8851 6 месяцев назад +4

    Me and bro were there. I was 20. He was 19. Best show. John. Miss ya.

  • @johnharrison4421
    @johnharrison4421 6 лет назад +26

    I was there and I remember after the 3rd song roger turned to his right for the first time and said "FUCK". The most emotional Who concert I have ever been to.

  • @whoseyourdaddyful
    @whoseyourdaddyful 7 лет назад +37

    I was there, a great show sunny and 70. There was a reason why they hugged before the song. Roger Daltry left the stage before, cried after a song because John was missing

    • @sralyn
      @sralyn 4 года назад +4

      Boy I would love to have cuddled him then! Would've been a beautiful moment.

  • @braydenfletcher8159
    @braydenfletcher8159 6 лет назад +26

    Petes guitar solo expressed how we all felt. Just filled with passion and pain. The band has carried in without Entwistle and they still sound good! But nobody can replace Moon The Loon and Thunderfingers

  • @mooville32
    @mooville32 Год назад +6

    I was at that show. My first Who concert. It was still a magical evening.

  • @mitchuritz4954
    @mitchuritz4954 4 года назад +9

    I was there. They played with such fire that night.
    They played for John.

  • @Twotontessie
    @Twotontessie 5 лет назад +16

    Zak had that great touch his dad had. Damn Townshend was going for it on guitar during the 2000s.

  • @MrRhmccabe
    @MrRhmccabe 6 лет назад +38

    Pete was devastated here,they wanted the best bass player in the world for Entwistle's place,and got him...the guy is great.

    • @synthonaplinth5980
      @synthonaplinth5980 4 года назад +9

      Yup, sad thing is that Pino does not get nearly enough credit.

    • @seahawkjoe4038
      @seahawkjoe4038 4 года назад +3

      He could have gotten Geddy lee or Chris Squire

    • @jokkergar
      @jokkergar 4 года назад +9

      @@seahawkjoe4038 I don't know if you know this but both of them have their own bands, what makes you think they would quit to them and accept the role of substitute?

    • @seahawkjoe4038
      @seahawkjoe4038 4 года назад

      Erion they wouldn’t have to quit

    • @seahawkjoe4038
      @seahawkjoe4038 4 года назад

      Erion Geddy lee played with yes for RnR hall of fame

  • @billymusicwb
    @billymusicwb 10 лет назад +38

    I've seen The Who one time, and it was this concert. The Counting Crows opened, which was a truly thankless job. The news had come out the death in Las Vegas of "The Ox." I remember the moment in Bargain when Pete broke up a little singing about what I remember as "one and one is three" or something. Watching this video, I understand. Pete gave a little speech I haven't found yet recorded. He thanked the Hollywood crowd and said he was glad they were playing this first concert after Entwistle's death for this particular crowd because at least half of the audience would know that this is the last place they'd like to be right now. They had a contractual obligation, and most of the crowd knew what it was like to sign a contract to perform. Bargain was the song I remember where Pete broke a little emotionally. This was such a privilege to be there, and it was a sad occasion.

    • @Fretless99
      @Fretless99 9 лет назад +6

      Billy Sheppard Bless Pino Palladino for filling in for John

    • @billymusicwb
      @billymusicwb 9 лет назад +4

      Fretless99 Yes! That was a tough job done at the last minute. I would include opening band Counting Crows for special mention since events had so completely overshadowed them they might as well have been singing nursery rhymes. They played well. Palladino did one song playing exactly what Entwhistle had played and the audience went wild. Good job, Fretless! Credit where credit is due....

    • @Fretless99
      @Fretless99 9 лет назад +2

      Billy Sheppard Thank you, Billy, you are very kind :)...John is sadly missed; he was a huge influence on my playing......

    • @georgeprice7922
      @georgeprice7922 6 лет назад +4

      3:25 "In life,one and one don't make two,one and one make one"......

    • @kurtduvel4345
      @kurtduvel4345 4 года назад +2

      @@georgeprice7922 "I'm looking for you, I'm looking for you...." 😢

  • @gillianholmes923
    @gillianholmes923 3 года назад +3

    So very very sad and so touching. How they must have missed John that night. Gone but never forgotten John. xxxxxx

  • @OlafProt
    @OlafProt Год назад +5

    It must've been beyond weird performing without John those first few weeks and months. The Who were 4 corners. And Zak is the only one to come close to keeping the drumming corner together. Christ Pino was brave taking that gig.

  • @ashe984
    @ashe984 8 лет назад +12

    I love the who and always support them

  • @toto384
    @toto384 11 лет назад +13

    Makes me so emotional. Pete is sweet.

  • @gordongrant8351
    @gordongrant8351 5 лет назад +13

    Thanks, Roger for working on your voice, taking care of it and learning how to sing again. Outstanding.

  • @TheBerndude
    @TheBerndude 7 лет назад +50

    You've gotta have big, big balls to replace The Ox.

    • @norbertk9595
      @norbertk9595 5 лет назад +17

      And he simply hasn't been replaced. Pete & Roger give it their all, but there is an enormous void in the left side of the stage.

    • @shootingstar7915
      @shootingstar7915 3 года назад

      A great show, miss our big John 🙏🏼R I P

  • @jeffgoodwilling9479
    @jeffgoodwilling9479 9 лет назад +77

    I love Zak Starkey. He's a perfect fit for them.

    • @markhaus2830
      @markhaus2830 5 лет назад +7

      Ringo's son

    • @LaughingStock_
      @LaughingStock_ 4 года назад +3

      Not really. 2 key members gone is NOT "The Who". To carry on under that banner was a contravention of the Trade's Description Act.

    • @ViscountVile
      @ViscountVile 4 года назад

      Well, the public decides whether they buy tickets or newer recordings. I've heard at least one interview with Pete in which he has explicitly said that "The Who" is a brand rather than a band.

    • @wolfpat
      @wolfpat 3 года назад +3

      I like his playing. He has a great combination of his dad and his "Uncle Keith".

    • @garycrothall901
      @garycrothall901 3 года назад +1

      @@LaughingStock_ Garbage.

  • @paullecomtenz
    @paullecomtenz 10 лет назад +4

    I was there, my first ever Who gig. Can't believe I never say The OX live, but what a gig - blood emotional & bloody spectacular.

  • @61tnt
    @61tnt 7 лет назад +4

    Was there too. Was certainly a poignant and special night and a privilege to be there! Thanks for posting this.

  • @butseriouslyfolks6111
    @butseriouslyfolks6111 8 лет назад +3

    livin in the past...i guess....the best times ever...never too late to say RIP John Entwistle...One of my favorite songs.

  • @nyshortline
    @nyshortline 4 года назад +7

    There will NEVER be another John Entwistle. EVER. But one thing that surprised me was that they didn't call on Suzi Quattro. Excellent bassist in her own right and her voice I think would have blended very well with Townshend while singing backup. Just a thought.

    • @keithroberts4952
      @keithroberts4952 3 года назад +3

      No disrespect to miss quatro but I don't think her style of playing matches the who. Pino is a quick study. One minute, he is playing for d'angelo, the next he plays for the Who! He is that good!

  • @Number-tk8lk
    @Number-tk8lk 8 лет назад +7

    Just saw them in concert a couple days ago and Roger sounded as good as he did in this video!!

  • @winnyxxx
    @winnyxxx 10 лет назад +7

    Thanks for posting. RIP John

  • @chgobrd
    @chgobrd 2 года назад +5

    Roger started to talk about John after their last song. Started getting choked up and Pete came out on stage and pulled him back stage.

    • @sralyn
      @sralyn Год назад

      Poor Boo 💔

  • @viewerenthusiast
    @viewerenthusiast 9 лет назад +30

    Not only do we miss the thundering sound, but also the powerful stage presence of John Entwistle. The man may not have moved a muscle other than his fingers, but you could always tell that he was there. He was hard to miss--visually, musically, and humorously. RIP John Alec Entwistle (9 October 1944; London, England-27 June 2002; Las Vegas, Nevada).

  • @GaryBook
    @GaryBook 5 лет назад +19

    I can’t imagine how difficult it must have been for them. I am totally impressed with Zak’s drumming, a Keith Moon clone.

    • @norbertk9595
      @norbertk9595 5 лет назад +7

      Keith gave Zak lessons and a drumset when Zak was a kid.

    • @MattSmith-iq1ld
      @MattSmith-iq1ld 4 года назад +4

      @@norbertk9595 +1 Roger felt The Who RETURNED when Zak joined the band.

    • @norbertk9595
      @norbertk9595 4 года назад +3

      @@MattSmith-iq1ld Right. Too bad they didn't hire Zak immediately after Moon's death.I know hewas very young at the time, but...

    • @brianjacob8728
      @brianjacob8728 Год назад

      @@norbertk9595 Townshend needed a break from the who. It worked out ok.

    • @Kpengie
      @Kpengie Год назад +1

      @@norbertk9595 He was also his godfather and Zak called him "Uncle Keith," due to his closeness with Ringo.

  • @ozzye9950
    @ozzye9950 10 лет назад +2

    so beautiful yet sad. thanx for sharing.

  • @joadhenry
    @joadhenry 7 лет назад +8

    that was beautiful Pete

    • @RSTI191
      @RSTI191 6 лет назад +2

      Damn, who the fuck knew Pete could solo like that?

  • @toonietom
    @toonietom 11 лет назад +2

    Great clip this song is from Who's next it's like the greatest hits of the Who every song is great. Thx

  • @Luileadolfo
    @Luileadolfo 7 лет назад +5

    Must have been really hard and sad to play this first show without John Entwistle.....

  • @gordongrant8351
    @gordongrant8351 5 лет назад +4

    Wow. Just heard the solo and ending. Jesus. What a tribute to John. Pete and all of them were playing like their souls fucking depended on it. Maybe they did...

  • @sralyn
    @sralyn 4 года назад +7

    I wanted to hug Petey at 3:27...

  • @grahamnunn8998
    @grahamnunn8998 Год назад +1

    Just been reading Townshend's biography and the section about losing John was hard to read. I was lucky enough to to them a little while before in the UK.

  • @PDXDrumr
    @PDXDrumr 5 лет назад +3

    I was at this show. Felt strange, and it was sad, it was a good show though though.

  • @HarryJoiner
    @HarryJoiner Год назад +1

    Zak is perfect for this role

  • @Andy-ok7ev
    @Andy-ok7ev Год назад

    That is magical

  • @jorgedelacadena4963
    @jorgedelacadena4963 5 лет назад +1

    Im a fan of Who but no one will ever replaced Jhon the Ox

  • @martyc2637
    @martyc2637 Год назад

    Whos Next was a masterpiece.

  • @daveh9335
    @daveh9335 3 года назад

    Long Live Rock !

  • @MattSmith-iq1ld
    @MattSmith-iq1ld 4 года назад +3

    I love Jim Ladd as a DJ, but for him to call the act of the band playing this gig as being DISGUSTING really revealed his true colors. He wasn't a true fan. Every person at the Hollywood Bowl that night wanted the group to continue, as I did. This was a night of mourning, but it was also a nigh of triumph. John LIVED for live performance. He would have pissed if the band had stopped due to his passing. Like with Cincinnati, the show must go on. There is healing element to rock music that is so crucial.

  • @babaoriley7986
    @babaoriley7986 3 года назад

    Damn, i shouldn't open this video, it makes me wanna cry when i saw the bass place was replaced.

  • @TracyGreenwood
    @TracyGreenwood 6 лет назад +3

    I hope that hug was genuine. Those guys were at odds for years.

    • @markhaus2830
      @markhaus2830 5 лет назад +6

      Not at odds anymore

    • @charliehustle1540
      @charliehustle1540 3 года назад

      They actually became close friends again after John’s death

  • @leyneyleyendecker5813
    @leyneyleyendecker5813 6 лет назад +13

    It's not the who without John Entwistle

    • @norbertk9595
      @norbertk9595 5 лет назад +4

      Agreed. The other bassists they've used just haven't worked out.

    • @ragingmong5593
      @ragingmong5593 4 года назад +2

      Once a member dies, it’s never the same. Rick Wakeman from Yes wanted to use a different name after Chris Squire died

    • @ViscountVile
      @ViscountVile 4 года назад

      True, but on that basis, they had not been The Who for 23 years!

    • @si5883
      @si5883 2 года назад +1

      John was the master on bass and can never be replaced! 👊

  • @vitaobassbr
    @vitaobassbr 6 лет назад +1

    oh man =(

  • @Wolfdragon92584
    @Wolfdragon92584 2 года назад

    Even though he was just shy of 60 at his death, I still feel John died short of his years. He wasn't overly self-destructive like Keith Moon, Kurt Cobain, or Ian Curtis. He should have lived to have been a badass old guy like Roger or Pete. The partying lifestyle definitely takes its toll and loved ones/fans left behind will hurt.

  • @YouzTube99
    @YouzTube99 8 лет назад +1

    If you're interested in Pete's impressions of John, check out this interview:
    ruclips.net/video/2s25n0kWkng/видео.html
    They were like brothers. In the last segment Pete makes it clear that John's encouragement was crucial to his development as a musician and composer.

  • @ashe984
    @ashe984 8 лет назад +14

    Not the same without John and keith

    • @BritPopLivesOn72
      @BritPopLivesOn72 7 лет назад +1

      hmm... I wonder why

    • @robertbykowski1398
      @robertbykowski1398 6 лет назад +2

      I can understand them carrying on without Keith - losing a drummer (even if he is one of the greatest) shouldn't mean the end of a band. But when you stop creating new material AND you lose the greatest rock 'n roll bassist of all time and thus become reduced to only two members of the original band...that's a good time to call it a day. Unless you're only in it for the money.

    • @MrSparklespring
      @MrSparklespring 4 года назад +1

      @@robertbykowski1398 Not at all and you are proven to be wrong. Listen to their new "Who" album. The best in years!

    • @sralyn
      @sralyn 3 года назад

      The ones that got away

    • @5jerry1
      @5jerry1 2 года назад +1

      @@robertbykowski1398 ~ Tell that to Led Zeppelin.

  • @cindyburrell2173
    @cindyburrell2173 8 лет назад +4

    O.k. Yes sound guy needs to be sacked,however,coming of age in the early 70's this drummer is spot on for Keith ,and yes roger was the voice,Pete was the soul

  • @Jjonathanhart
    @Jjonathanhart 4 месяца назад

    Roger's got the perfect unique rock voice. Unfortunately this isn't like the studio version with a continuous tempo except for the end.

  • @abigal3508
    @abigal3508 2 года назад +3

    Yep. Pete tears up at 3:20 ish

  • @UncleChillGuitar
    @UncleChillGuitar 4 месяца назад

    The Ox forever

  • @4beer5beer
    @4beer5beer 5 лет назад +1

    Zak is great too

  • @jokkergar
    @jokkergar 5 лет назад +10

    The drums sounds like trash here, not the drummer's fault, some in the production messed up

    • @victormlyon
      @victormlyon 5 лет назад +2

      Limiter failed and pegged the meter

    • @no1nestandsalone387
      @no1nestandsalone387 4 года назад

      BenediKt dude that’s ringos son you are talked about. You better shut up. I’ve seen them in concert with him and he plays good!

    • @jokkergar
      @jokkergar 4 года назад +4

      @@no1nestandsalone387 pal what part of "not the drummer's fault" don't you understand. Do i really have to explain you the role of a sound engineer?.

  • @johndaugherty4127
    @johndaugherty4127 Год назад

    I saw them in '81 and the 2012 Quadrephenia tour with Zak Starkey and John Entwhistle on jumbotron playing a solo together, with my best friend who died not too long after the show. The Who are the best.

    • @sralyn
      @sralyn Год назад

      No 'h' in ENTWISTLE. Get it outta there.

  • @MichaelCrutcher
    @MichaelCrutcher 2 года назад

    This was clearly set for video. Why isn't the sound better? Is trhe whole set available?

  • @spinalcrackerbox
    @spinalcrackerbox 3 года назад +1

    Awful board mix and camera avoiding Pino for almost all of it. Why?

  • @heynow4512
    @heynow4512 4 года назад +1

    Took my two kids & wife to this concert. Great concert tho lots of meaningful tears at this 1. After they played 1st song my teenage son replied "they're not 1/2 bad." To which I screamed "r u kidding me? These guys r legends!" Hey man,1/2 WHO is better than no Who. & nobody can replace Keith Moon, but that drummer Zak Starkey is Ringo's son, taught by Moon, is their best replacement. Better than them other 2 guys, Kenney Jones & Simon Phillips.

    • @mudstone6497
      @mudstone6497 4 года назад

      Zak Starkey

    • @heynow4512
      @heynow4512 4 года назад

      @@mudstone6497 Ur rite. Ray is/was an actor. Was in the movie The Star-maker

    • @mudstone6497
      @mudstone6497 4 года назад

      Hey Now Huh? I just commented you wrote Ray Starkey in referring to Zak Starkey, which I see you corrected, what’s all this about a movie?

    • @heynow4512
      @heynow4512 4 года назад

      @@mudstone6497 I tried to "Google" Ray Starkey/ The Star maker, nothing came up. When I find that movie or the actor I'll let u know. My memory is failing me in me old age. U caught me again...hey now

    • @kimoneill5676
      @kimoneill5676 2 года назад

      Actually, Zak was taught to play by Kenney Jones, not Keith.

  • @SteveBoltz
    @SteveBoltz 5 лет назад

    Go on The Ox x

  • @alann5003
    @alann5003 Год назад

    Why did they omit the beautiful bridge?

  • @youkyouk7471
    @youkyouk7471 5 лет назад +1

    How I miss Keith on this song ! ( sorry for this platitude....)

    • @Andy-ok7ev
      @Andy-ok7ev Год назад

      I. Feel the same very hard shoes to fill

  • @delphinazizumbo8674
    @delphinazizumbo8674 3 месяца назад

    yeah........Mr Businessman Pete wouldn't stop that tour for his OWN demise
    this is the year i FORGOT about Peter Townsend
    the year the band played on after Ox passed away,
    a hooker on his left, pile cocaine to the right.....a Boss

  • @richardtharris
    @richardtharris 9 месяцев назад

    My brother, his son (a teenage drummer), and I (bassist), attended this show on a typical canyon July evening. It was cold! Our intent was to expose his son to how a world class rock rhythm section functioned. Well, best laid plans, you know. Fortunately, Pino stepped up, and saved the day. What was it again, hookers and blow, that sent Mr Entwhistle to Rock and Roll Heaven? We really, really wanted to share the majesty of thunder fingers steamrolling the bowl with my nephew. But not to be. RIP Ox.

    • @cocktailsandrocktales
      @cocktailsandrocktales 9 месяцев назад

      No. it was a woman he knew for 13 years that was with him. That would be me. If you want the ONLY truth out there, find me on here. Its been in my book which came out in 2014. I sued Roger and others for calling me the slanderous and absolutely false words. If you goggle woman with John entwistle....there i am. Research and educate yourself. Don't degrade out of ill educated lies. Yes, I was a stripper when we lost John, but I was not when he and I met backstage in 1989. And was never a hooker...period. so sick of this ignorance.

  • @18winsagin
    @18winsagin 8 лет назад +1

    what caused his death? Really didn't know he passed.

    • @wk19781
      @wk19781  8 лет назад +2

      +18winsagin This is from wikipedia: The Clark County medical examiner determined that his death was due to a heart attack induced by cocaine.[16]

    • @18winsagin
      @18winsagin 8 лет назад +1

      +wk19781 hmm thank you for your effort, sad I didn't realize he had passed away.

    • @RSTI191
      @RSTI191 6 лет назад +4

      A few factors.
      He was on collision course. Probably didn't even realize it.
      Years of smoking, arteries were mess, blow at the time was the catalyst that triggered a heart attack.
      He went in his sleep, never even knew it happened.
      Lucky fuck..
      That aside, as a bassist, he was a hero to me. Had to pleasure of meeting him once. He was hilarious, loved his brandy.
      I have a great memory (and a couple of cool pics with him) of the time I will cherish for life..

    • @robertbykowski1398
      @robertbykowski1398 6 лет назад +7

      The actual truth of why he passed is that, after rehearsals prior to the first scheduled show in Vegas in 2002, he was having sex with a Las Vegas show girl in his hotel room and doing cocaine with her at the same time. He already had a diagnosed heart condition, and the combination of sex and coke caused him to have a fatal heart attack. All one can really say is that he definitely died a rock star's death.
      And somehow, some way, Keith Richards keeps going and going and going like the Energizer Bunny.

    • @Mineminemine8
      @Mineminemine8 5 лет назад +2

      Robert Bykowski The woman John was with wasn’t a show girl, she was a stripper and a groupie. She wrote a book, which was pretty interesting, if you can get through the complete lack of editing.

  • @YGroadcapitain
    @YGroadcapitain 6 лет назад

    horrible sound on this video!!!

  • @pranavsarpal8899
    @pranavsarpal8899 3 года назад

    The vid quality is so pathetic.....RIP Entwistle!

  • @no1nestandsalone387
    @no1nestandsalone387 4 года назад

    Thank god roger got that surgery on his throat.. he sounded WAY better when I saw him and he sang this song lol

  • @jamesmuir8747
    @jamesmuir8747 2 года назад

    Missing Keith Moon up in there. bleah!

  • @jamesgorski1398
    @jamesgorski1398 Год назад

    I liked it better when Roger punched Pete in the face
    But okay 👍🏻 I guess Mates …

  • @Andy-ok7ev
    @Andy-ok7ev Год назад

    I. Think. Moon d. Sended 4. This. Song

  • @clarkthesharkshow9944
    @clarkthesharkshow9944 Год назад +1

    the drumming is so horrible ,..that i really can't watch this ,, lol

  • @risefm001
    @risefm001 3 года назад +1

    John could snort for miles and miles and miles...

    • @timculhane625
      @timculhane625 2 года назад +2

      I don't think you'd be laughing if you were him or any of his loved ones. Do yourself a favor and find a conscience and some respect while you're at it

    • @risefm001
      @risefm001 2 года назад

      @@timculhane625 John could snort for miles and miles and miles....

  • @christinelackey1794
    @christinelackey1794 4 года назад

    Difficult? Bwahaha ....easy as 123..peace of cake n never to late to saveyoyr(saviour) asses just in the NICOTINE. 🚬 em if ya got em... 🔥 it ☝