The Controversial Music Genre of Barber Beats
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It's criminal to have so many nice tracks as bgm but not put the tracklist in the description... or anywhere for that matter.
Pls remedy this.
I think of the people who compile these mixtapes as curators rather than full blown musicians. But I think their work is another form of art that lives side by side with music artistry.
undersaken phrased is at such: curation as an art form
agreed, i just wish more barber beats mixes contained a tracklist of original names somewhere... at least most people don't actively delete comments of the original tracks (cough, macroblank, cough)
i think the process of curating/separating the wheat from the chaff is valuable as it takes someone with eclectic taste and a deep love for the genre/subgenres to find the good stuff (and it's very time-consuming to even get say 12 samples together) However; I think original source material should also be listed. So yeah, I agree with @suop1234
they might not be full blown musicians but what they do is a really strong form of art and it speaks how good of a visual and musical taste those people have ❤️
its almost like they jockey disks, dont you think?
wow the graphic design for these covers are so good. i feel like maybe 50% of the reason for its popularity
It is. The music itself is pretty mid, the covers get you to click.
@@Sebomai-b8inot mid
It’s ok. Doesn’t say anything about the music it’s just Behance core
@@Sebomai-b8i not mid
Im literally being censored for the simplest reply f this platform
Haircuts for men seriously helped me sleep when i only had a few hours at a time. Cant say enough good stuff about those early collections
True comment
Holy shit same wtf
HFM help me secure good grades
most people have fans or white noise generators
HFM appreciation thread
Barber beats aka the music they play during evening dinners at Dorsia
Now let's listen to Paul Allen's barber beats
Nobody goes there anymore.
@@claymccoy 😂😂😂😂🍻
Too Black Sounding For Me
@@dabidosan To each his own...
modest by default is my favorite to be born out of the genre, but HFM, the og, will never be topped.
Haircuts for Men is insanely good. Classic sounds.
love me some mbd
HfM really has his own vibe
modest n gore are prolly my favs
Best fucking track by modest would have to be kisses so good man
Yo, thank you for the massive shoutout! HFM and Macroblank are the reason I'm here, so to peg me as someone who helped push the genre to where it is today is wild to me, I appreciate it a ton
Hey I remember one of your tracks opened the Blast Pit mix from Hungry Skull, it's a nice tune! Always fun to see how much artists are out there working on fresh barberbeats everyday. Keep up the good work :)
Your tracks and albums are the titties, stellar work, keep it up!
Macroblank is a copycat
so to what you ?
love ur music dawg
Honestly the best part of Barber Beats are the "album covers." I love so many of their art styles. The music is ok. Its relaxing.
Yes, i love the artstyle, its so good
You are overlooking the music to the point of dismissing it as simply 'relaxing'.
I guess you don't identify with the vibes, and that's okay.
@@pot7979lol, calm down; music elicits, for him it elicits relaxation.
A fun trivia piece is that HFM's bio used to just say "i take no credit. everything is plundered." , but he changed it to take some credit after he uploaded his original gabber work, northern labour camps. You can check it on the wayback machine.
HFM did gabber? Am I reading this right? That's insane
@@the_trash_mane5875He actually has a whole second alias called "forbidden creme" that he uses to publish electronic works, but yeah, he has dabbled in gabber under the hfm name as well. I highly recommend northern labour camps, it's the thing that got me into gabber.
must've been recent since i still thought it was the "everything is plundered" line
@@darman2429May of 2021. Like I said, you can verify this on the wayback machine.
I rember
i just hate that they flood the bandcamp vaporwave tag, its hard to find anything actually unique sounding these days
That’s the only real complaint I have with barber beats for as much as I enjoy it I wish other sub genres like mallsoft or vapor funk wouldn’t be lost in the shuffle.
@@Personarose EXACTLY its so hard to find good mallsoft man, its annoying
Oh great, good to know it's lazy thievery that also makes finding actual musicians even harder... it's like AI slop clogging up your feed.
@@Personarose Or you could just use RYM to find recent mallsoft or future funk
@@hypersleep9336what is good mallsoft
I remember reading a comment in one of these playlists saying "Barber beats is how i always imagined vaporwave to feel and sound like" and i felt that.
I had listened to a bunch of Haircuts for Men and Macroblank and thought there was some sampling involved and that was it... had no idea a lot of the songs are literally lifted from other artists, barely edited. I see in the comments that some people try to take the high road and call them/themselves "curators" but if that was the case then they would credit the original artists appropriately instead of being cheeky and translating everything to japanese to make it harder to find the original songs, selling their albums and even selling merch! Kinda like the NFT/AI bros of the music world...
does plasma lounge count because it was originally from ape escape
yeah. for example, macroblank is straight up stealing others' content when it comes to album artwork and music. but I still downloaded a few albums anyway, lmao. it'd be nice if he published where the "samples" are from. after a few albums, i already recognized aphex twin and mr. moods. luckily there are still good vaporwave producers who make their own stuff.
I found Macroblank and a dude called Middle MGMT last year and they hooked me. Driving barber beats, jogging barber beats, chilling out barber beats yeah i think you get the point.
That's breathing my friend.
Vaporwave started off criticizing capitalism through the recontextualization of corporate muzak and pop hits and now a decade later people are using the genre to make money by reselling other people's music. What a world.
Punk is in fact born dead
The disco elysium arc.
That's not how Vaporwave started. Eccojams had nothing to do with that, for example.
🌎 👨🚀🔫👨🚀
They never claimed to be criticizing capitalism. The genre was simply about sentimentality, including sentimentality about consumer society.
As a barber beats enjoyer, I tend to see them as just chill mixtapes and the makers to be an indie dj of sorts, and because of how small scale and indie it is it's mostly harmless. (Though I myself am quite the pirate with artistic media even though I'm an artist myself so I can relate to this kinda paradoxical passion for a medium as well)
the only problem is it’s not as small scale as it once was
It's not small scale if they're making thousands from bandcamp
@@dandrechesterfield5411 i’m saying
@@dandrechesterfield5411 so they get a month's rent from making a mixtape. Big fuckin' deal.
@@JoeEmber776Yeeeeeah. I've made original music and gotten nothing for it, lol. Maybe I should have made some mixtapes of chillout music and actually made money.
everyone gangsta
until pad weighs in on barber beats
thats right
Eyyyy Naoko in the building
i don't think anybody should beat their barber
but what if my barber beats me?
İ usually barber my beats
One of the reasons I love vaporwave is because once u hear a mix that u definitely love and cannot get enough of u look for the sample and by listening to the sample it’s as if u are rediscovering the song again and you get excited waiting for that samples part to come up,, I love how vaporwave lets you discover artists with amazing tracks that u might’ve not even be able to have a chance to come across
I respect that, discovering the samples in rap music, via album liners, is what got me super into listening and collecting music. Can't hate on anyone gaining knowledge.
Oh man this is awesome. I’ve seen these in my feed on RUclips for years and had no idea what it was so I’m happy you uploaded this. Also love to see you doing a topic that is very clearly up your alley. Huge fan of all your videos but this topic screams “Pad Chennington”. Killer stuff
thank you dude!!!
What are your thoughts on Barber Beats? Do you dig em or nah?
A bit of a confessional moment.
I don't want to be the guy who shouts "these people steals other people's work into their own stuff" or whatever, because realistically I also use samples in my music.
Barber beats legit made me jealous as an artist because the amount of work they put in is way little than other producers - I would say even compared with vaporware artists who do intricate micro-sampling arrangements. Yet they gained lots of popularity in the scene. I'd say that - but I can't really control the factor of popularity in general.
Understandably barber beats was made in favor of making a playlist of already-existent songs but with different vibe and feel, and producing a whole new music is whole another thing.
But at the end of the day, the existence of barber beats taught me to actually be a better producer who can actually compose music, who can actually flip samples creatively, because when people recognize my work, I know deep in my heart that I actually constructed those music piece by piece, and not just stretching and reverbing music.
barber beats producer (savant shadow) here:
recently i've changed my opinions on albums in the genre. while i think they're cool as music despite their "lazy" nature, i don't consider them albums so much as mixes. as such i've switched my position as an "artist" to "mixer" or even an "mp3 jockey."
morally is a different story. i've recently tried to credit those who i "sample", as i've tried to switch to a more mix-oriented style. while it's undoubtedly questionable in terms of morality, one can argue that any morph in a song can classify it as "original." at the end of the day, i'd say crediting samples in vaporwave in general is better, i want people to not only see our side but the original side of things.
Barber beats is the music graphic designers make when they make a sick album cover but they suck at actually producing.
I personally don't mind them but I kinda laugh to myself when people get sad that their favorite barber beats albums get taken down but the album is just unknown jazz songs that are slowed down.
There is nothing better for me to listen at work. Calm and relaxing.
I just found your channel, and wow. I love it!!! These things like psychedelic or existential musical genres really interest me, but I thought everything was just an offspring of Vaporwave, but you made me realize there's way, way more to it than that. It's a whole world of music, and you do such an excellent job documenting and explaining it all. Godspeed on your future uploads!!!!
Fantastic channel, been here a few years and hope you’ll stay with me a few more :)
What a great video, bro. Thanks for all you do.
Thank you for the mention of my project. I'm grateful that you enjoy my audio journeys ❄
my pleasure! Also loving FRONTIER ワンダーランド !!
I didn't even know Slowerpace was Brazilian! I'm so proud!
Wait till you hear sepultura!
I have been listening to slowerpace and macroblank a bit. I also like a Chilean guy called Mabisyo. However, I listen to his jazzy atmospheric stuff more. It's so good. "Sun colored eyes" and "In the dreams of a dragon" are amazing
I love Mabisyo. He makes perfect date night music.
Dude. As an avid Haircuts for Men-listener for many years by now, this was really fascinating. At first I had no idea what to make of it and just bought it at face-value as someone who actually constructed these chill beats - or perhaps added a saxophone on it, since so many of the tracks had a sax. But then I heard the one mixtape where they use Windowlicker by Aphex Twin and I knew something was up.
I think the Coronamix they made is my favorite, because it's straight up a sort of DJ-set where they make all the tracks flow well into each other, so it's both more of a original product and also really good at the same time.
Fascinating nonetheless. Can't resist the chill vibes at times though.
Around 5 years ago I got really into barber beats, however as with many genres like chillwave it started to come with lots of imitators who barely put effort into making the music unique. Basically it got oversaturated quickly and it's harder to find the true gems in the genre
omg its mr. cloudbloom
@@faloel which running gag on a youtube channel comment section do you know me from?
@@cloudbloom not youtube but this one berserk group somewhere else 🤫
@@faloel ah nice, probably the group berserk shitposting arc on facebook. I actually stopped using all social media (besides youtube) the day I found out Miura died so I haven't been on there since
@cloudbloom why did a manga artist's death cause you to quit social media?
I absolutely love barber beats! The remember a year or two ago seeing Macroblanks mix with the Nazgûl on the front and thinking I had to see what it was. I’ve been hooked ever since then.
it's crazy how macroblank can slow down hundreds of tracks, and release them under different names. It would be 1000% better if they just release it as mixes.
Better for who?
yeah i don't think taking one of the most unique aspects of macroblanks work away would make "it" ""better""
@@ArcticaQuantum they can still make his edits to it, but I think they shouldn’t release them under a different name. RUclips usually recognises most of the songs used but about 30% of all songs go uncredited. That’s assuming that everyone scrolls down the description.
@@mauhu a good portion of the artists sampled are completely defunct and if his track were released as a remix it would never be found or played. i agree there should be room for crediting the original artists and more edits, but doing away with the artist name / the album format decontextualizes the tracks so they don't blend as a cohesive piece.
give the original artists a cut of the revenue (if any. most of the bb artists make next to nothing) in the same manner hiphop artists do
yo! thanks for showing BARBER BEATER PT 2 シャープなカッティングコーム's cover art in the beginning of the video!
i wanted to point out that this album, and BARBER BEATER 床屋を打ち負かす音楽, is a reaction to the genre. part 1 reacts in heavily chopping sampled tracks making them non detectable. for part 2 everything is sampleless & slowed as a barberbeats/vaporwave artist in traditional sense would. the Barber beater albums tries not to be lazy. :)
i also want to add that these reactions are very inspired by the genre and in no way a form of disrespect. barberbeats has become the new sound and is very catchy. the lazy edits actually inspired me to make these. it's way harder to keep stuff minimal and keep it lazy than you think! curious where it will take vaporwave ❤
You had some unholy amount of subscribers so I fixed it ;)
@@artophile7777 welcome nr 667! thats luck on top 💕
There are so many on the rise barber beat artists, it's crazy. Slowerpace, Dirty River, Oblique Occasions, there's so many great artists with huge discographies 🦑💜
absolutely loved punishment, can't wait to see what OO does next 🎉
OO isn't on the rise, he's one of the OGs lol
@@777k-s3b im aware, i just like their most recent project lol
Easy to have a huge discography when you're just sampling without any edits lol
OO’s semi recent Ketamine series really impressed me, I had fun listening to almost all of them (Ket 5 was just okay) absolutely love the guy
I'd say these artists are more like DJs curating and doing edits of tracks and the releases are very similar to mix tapes from back in the day. I love finding new artists from barber beats albums
This is the classic Pad content I stay around for! Lol
Love barber beats, I’ve been listening to soooo much slowerpace lately
I love how this is also a conversation on the power of good design. As a visual artist I often struggle to create a visual language to convey a new idea or decontextualize something existing. That said, the images uses are also analogous to the samples. They’re flipped and repurposed for the packaging. The aesthetic and sound of Barber Beats is a digital curation project.
Been seeing you on the Slowerpace comment sections. You've been consuming this like Skittles.
seriously can't get enough of slowerpace, every release is such a banger. loved the latest one pyromaniac
@@PadChennington The music is so good for BGM. I loved Pyromaniac, especially due to the Shadowrun cover art, but my personal favorites are Bellum Divinum and Barbershop Simulator.
The first track of Bellum Divinum, Duellum Gigantum, has an intensity quite uncommon in the genre.
Perhaps Godspeed should take a Slowepace.. Or Slowerpace increase to Godspeed 😁
holy shit, haven't seen you pop up on my feed for years. glad to see you're still around man. time to catch up on what i've missed.
It's desert sand feels warm at night is a interesting artist since he makes entirely original music but then slows it down to a snail's pace plus reverb
Love their stuff. I use desert sand's music for sleep aid.
His most played and well known track is literally just a Taiwanese pop song slowed down and stretched to 20 minutes
Yo, thank you for the massive shoutout! HFM and Macroblank are the reason I'm here, so to peg me as someone who helped push the genre to where it is today is wild to me, I appreciate it a ton (0.75x)
*NEW VIDEO!* My Top 10 Barber Beats Albums: ruclips.net/video/WbFc_bJl9gw/видео.html
You know what's controversial? Yo mommas face!
well, i find u fascinating
Great video, it's a genre we all stumbled on and I'm so grateful for the breakdown of where it's come from
I discovered this subgenre a couple years ago through Macroblank and loved it, I've been listening to vaporwave since Eccojams Vol.1. But it didn't take long until I saw in the comments people posting names of the barely edited source songs, and alarmingly, other people complaining that their source lists were being deleted. I can get behind these "albums" being more considered as mixtapes and the artists being more like DJs or curators, but actively hiding the names and artists of the songs they use feels more unethical than straight up piracy to me. I'm honestly glad a few Barber Beat "artists" got all their stuff scrubbed from Bandcamp, if only to push the rest of the scene to be a bit more innovative and creative.
While I don't think fair use legally applies to any of this, I use the idea of a "transformative work" as a guiding star when evaluating a genre like this. As I listened to Macroblank that first few days, for every beat that I loved grooving to, there was another that sounded like a lazy flip of slowed-down Balearic downtempo or jazz. While with classic vaporwave there were enough elements in a song or edits to a sample that, even though many famous samples are easily recognizable, the end result felt like an actual new song. Very few Barber Beat tracks meet this standard.
And then I step back and think about people decrying any sampling being used in the 80s and 90s and how ridiculous I thought they looked, and all the gigabytes of mp3s I pirated before Spotify came to the Western Hemisphere, and several famous examples of theft-as-art in the Visual Arts; even though I find fault with the ethics of these artists, I'm ultimately very excited to follow this new evolution of Vaporwave wherever it leads us. Watching a new genre or subgenre grow and spread in real-time is one of my favorite pastimes as a music nerd, even when it is seemingly growing itself into an ouroboros.
Thanks for this. I haven't personally unpacked what the genre is exactly - although I think I already get it. We used to joke with our house DJ friends about "pants" house - sounding like what you'd hear shopping for pants lol.
I've been stuck on Opal Vessel's RUclips for a minute now! Great stuff!! Looking forward to discovering more. ✌️
Dude, I got so many of these albums recommended to me and the album covers looked metal af. So I gave one or two of them a listen at them expecting some sort of heavy music and what I find are mild beats to relax/study to, I got tonal whiplash.
The fact every cover has so much style is probably the main reason I like it. It's just so vibes
Seeing it discussed like this makes me think of barber beats as more of a subgenre of plunderphonics that evolved its aesthetics heavily from vaporwave. Considering a lot of plunderphonics artists also don't know whether to call themselves DJ's/Producers/ or simply music curators the connection there is strong. Not to mention the headache that is sample clearing a heavily sampled release, a lot of the plunderphonics crew don't monetize their stuff at all, except for maybe the bigger names like The Avalanches who spent years trying to get projects released.
I kinda treat barber beats like mixes more than albums
Nobody would get angry at a dj set because it's just plundered songs, it's here to set up a mood, it's the same for barber beats and they absolutely deliver
As per selling records, i don't really know what to think about that, because to be fair, if my favorite mixes started selling on records, i'd probably buy a few of them, but i would expect them to be honest about it
I mean not just telling that they plundered everything, but putting the actual songs in the tracklist
My same thoughts, it's pretty hypocritical for people to dissapprove of Barber beats mixers and not DJs who always play around with the music
my thoughts exactly.
DJs don't put their artist name on the songs that aren't their and usually use music meant to be played by other DJs. Mixes they post online for profit (like on spotify) also usually have the original artist's name on the tracks like with Disclosure or have a setlist like with a lot of youtube mixes.
Barber Beats uses music that were never really meant to be used in the way EDM music is and they probably also don't clear their samples like how Hip Hop and EDM producers do which is probably the main reason why they got removed from bandcamp. What Barber Beats does is something that would definitely get someone sued into oblivion if they used a more popular track.
@TheMrShnickers EDM DJs typically sell mixes with a setlist (though selling mixes aren't as common nowadays). Barber Beat's problem is that the artists straight up sell other people's music as their own (with every track under their artist name and all) with only slight edits. They probably also don't clear the samples like how producers usually have to (probably why their stuff was removed from bandcamp).
Edit: my actual problem comes from when they actually try to sell these albums without credit. That is unethical to a pretty crazy degree and is actually worse than piracy.
hey there, i saw some of my thumbnails! nice video. barber beats to me is like dadaism; it sort of spits in the face of decorum but allows artists to express and recontextualize as they see fit. it's sharing, it can be poetic, it is not held up by a central theme or hierarchy. there are ways to elevate and inject more 'artistic integrity' back into a project too. that's up to the artist.
𝐺𝑂𝑅𝐸 said it best: all art is recycled
@@Hozokauh said it best: all art is recycled
You found a lot of ways to describe blatant thievery as anything else, congrats.
@@WAFFENFABRIKno
Good thing I play saxophone. This is going to be a field day for me to produce.
I… had no idea so little went into the making of these songs. I was unfamiliar with a lot of the sampled work so this is kind of a bummer.
I feel like this genre is like radio djs playlists and it's all good
Worked at a Ramen so for about six years, we listen almost exclusively to Haircuts For Men and Vaporwave/Barber Beats. Twas a time!
❤
I think it only makes sense that barber beats are just slightly manipulated samples bc all of these subgenres, vaporwave, slush wave, barber beats, etc, fall under postmodernism which champions pastiche (fancy word for stealing like an artist). Sampling is the new interpolation/variating on a theme.
I've always seen this genre on surface level and never really bothered to learn more about it. After watching this video I am for sure inspired to learn more. Thank you!
Young people these days want a new genre so bad but instead they just rename shit that’s been around for 40 years and act like it’s new
Yeah
And that is the Case with E V E R Y T H I N G how we grew up
We have also been erased
L M F A O !
They are '' bringing '' everything '' back ''
Except We Never Went Away
Also Young er
Sampling is an artform, which makes Barber Beats art. Remember "Robot Rock" by Daft Punk? I think it's one of the best electronic tracks ever written, but it wouldn't exist without the source sample, which is unaltered and looped over and over again.
The Patreon email of a NEW Pad video is always a good vibe 😌
Wow, I had no idea this genre was called Barber Beats, but it makes sense, and it's a great name. I remember listening to HFM back in the day and showing my friends and just telling them its really good slowed down jams you can chill too. After that, my neighbor would invite me for coffee and he'd always have HFM on. Great video Pad and I got some good recommendations. Thank you!
Its great as far as being a curator of music goes.
I really wish people didnt compare it to actual beat making though. This is just making a mixtape and making album art.
I dont really know if its an art form explicitly, but its cool.
It's an artform in the way DJing is where you curate and mix things together in such way that you create a unique experience from it. They should really just call the albums mixes and call themselves DJs or curators
@@paulpangilinan6671 completely agree
i think from a copyright standpoint it'd make things a lot more morally justifiable if all barber beats was available for free, because you're right, just changing the tempo of a track or doing minimal editing is waaaaay below the bar for someone to claim they did something transformative enough to claim it as their own. i use samples pretty liberally in my productions but not usually long passages, mostly short one-shots. i go by a kind of code where if i use a sizeable section of a track and don't do something to make it sound a lot less recognisable then i just don't use it, it feels wrong. however, that's just me and plenty of artists have made great tracks that use longer samples. recontextualisation is the main thing really, if you make a house track and sample a main hook from another well-known house track then i think that stretches your integrity and credibility as a musician. however, if you used that same main hook in, say, an oldschool jungle track then that would be fine in my book, because while the former sounds like a cash-in attempt the latter sounds like someone being creative and that's what an artist should really seek to do, be creative
I get the aesthetic appeal of the genre, and i do dig the sound, but as someone who writes music themselves , i can't help but get riled up when i see a single guy dropping a 15 track album every week just by slowing down 8bars from an old takanaka tune and adding some fx to it, while other talented producers and musicians spend tens of hours into a single tune and get basically no attention for their original piece of music. Now i'm far from being against sampling and sample editing of any sort, but i think this whole genre just takes it a bit too far. What i'd like to see though is actual musicians creating this type of music from scratch. Writing an 8/16 bars loop/chord progression really isn't that hard and with that little bit of effort i think it could push the genre in a really great direction.
Now there are also sample-free barber beats producers like ROMBREAKER, Message Me Later, Telenights, Mabisyo, DEvSEb, Machina Pensant, etc.
@@ionescuflorin7307 can't say I know much of these , but I stumbled onto mabisyo's yt Channel a while ago in which the description mentions it's music mostly made of samples ?
As someone who also writes music
Stealing is good and ur a prude
your music is great @rooxg subbed!
@@howlinnadeaux766 hey thank you so much for checking me out ! 🤟👽
Thanks for taking about this genre. Haircuts for Men is what got me into this genre in the first place.
I am freaking out! I am not the only one in the world that knows about this stuff omg.
I really, really like their music and didn’t realised the “history” around them. - Even though they can be still considered “lazy” i still really like them and i feel like i would’ve never even thought of hearing the originals without it. - the reason i feel like it can make productive is because of the whole nature of it, the music make you feel like your getting ready to work at your “million dollar company” or “getting dressed/groomed for a action movie.” Makes you in a very productive type of mood where you are ready to get things done. One of my favorites is haircut’s for mens : Nothing special, nothing wonderful (especially the track “sweatpants”) is one of my favourite songs or things ever. This video was really good and i really like it a lot ! I really like this type of content and i hope you continue it! Also hi from Brazil
I was waiting for you to cover Barber Beats. I absolutely love the genre and the creators that are apart of it. The community is really great and I certainly enjoy hearing what each creator mixes up next!
Vaporwave: a genre literally based on slowing down music and selling it on a cassette.
R/vaporwave: this is wrong :((((
Slowing down your own created music.Look, I'm not someone to complain about sampling in music and vaporwave is far from being the only genre that uses samples extensivly and i do believe that people can impove the work of others but there has to at least be some acknowledgement of the original
Vaporwave: shoving FX up the ass to make a song sound different from the original
Barberbeats: reuploading the song, or detuning it a half-step
are you 16 years old? do you have kid-brain still?
I think this is an oversimplification, yes vaporwave at it's core is based on slowing down music but there is a lot more done to it with effects, production and chopping. Artists like Macroblank and Haircuts for Men do not get a pass because they do the bare minimum of slow it down and that's literally all they do. The cuts are simple to nonexistent and add nothing, the effects are not there or barely add anything. The samples are a crutch not a tool with a lot of these barber beats artists. I will not say it is all of them but with a lot of them it is.
@@l1ghtning334 This. jesus christ.
Reddit 💩
The artwork is awesome too. Such a good style, across so many albums and artists. Been enjoying haircuts for years
Rory Macdonald on a cover hits different
Hell yea
When
Was that HFM or Monodrone
Ah yes Barber Beats, the Classical Music of Vaporwave, glad you could finally cover it
I just had a SHORT listen on some of them, basically it's just Nu Jazz/Trip Hop named differently (Correct me if I'm wrong)? You got Thievery Corporation, Tosca, Kruder and Dorfmeister, Fila Brazilia, Kid Loco, early Bonobo, Air etc.
Yeah, there are some Barber Beats projects that truly are doing something new or innovative but so much of it just sounds like Gen Z kids who found somebody’s old collection of late 90s and early 2000s Cafe Del Mar and Trip-Hop compilations and pulled a Steamed Hams with it.
Yea I definitely agree haha. With a lot of the more uhhh...I guess "chill-ish" sounding electronic genres, there is a ton of cross-over territory. I honestly find it sorta laughable at times, bc it's like okay who honestly finds the sounds to be SO different that we literally have to use new GENRE TERMS to differenciate them? If *Song A* and *Song B* both feature heavy drums, pronounced bass, ethereal soundscapes/horror vibes, and are in the key of G Minor...what makes Song A witchhouse and Song B darkwave? Lol just an example.
Also, HUGE Tosca fan herre myself. I've honestly never come across anyone mention them before, so shout outs to you!!!
@@conkyjoe8932 Tosca is criminally slept on for sure.
“Put It On” absolutely slaps.
the thumbnail was such aesthetically thematically foreshadows what music was to come.
Why not just give credit to the original artist? For example, have the cover art state the name of the original or something.
As a producer I treasure discussions like this. Cheers!
I've been waiting for someone to cover this.
It’s basically buying a various artist compilation of the same genre of music, which is/was always fun
Love the Snowpoint Lounge shoutout
Fantastic video! I got recommended macroblank about 2-3 years ago and have been down the rabbit hole ever since. I only recently discovered modest by default like 3 weeks ago and permaculture is a real treat.
I love barber beats because they let me keep my focus clear and concise especially when I'm doing certain monotonous things at work.
Barber beats are absolute motivation starters for me and I try and click any new ones the youtube algorithim recommends me.
Another artist that I've been enjoying thats a bit closer to nujabes as opposed to barber beats is Vanilla. Summer is my absolute favourite track they've made.
The soundscapes get even deeper when you get a newer piece of audio equipment.
I remember I got my first pair of IEMs and relistened to some vanilla and macroblank and it just made my jaw drop.
Fantastic video mate
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@@Solodolo84 my good chum!
Some of these project are very esoteric and mystical to me, i love them. It takes me to a place of nostalgia and relax
I think we can call them "musical curators" and if they edit samples - "producers" as well.
With how much music there is, spotlighting good music becomes an important task. And that is what they do.
we are, at best, humble curators. at worst, petty pilferers.
undersaken has called barber beats curation as an art form
It's really no different from hip hop remixes from the 80s
A lot of them DON'T spotlight the music they're stealing though. They change the name of a track and slow it down and pretend they made it.
@@BloodoftheLotus13 I only listen to Macroblank and never seen him claim that the music was made by him.
Below his videos on RUclips you can expand description and see original tracks in order.
Sure, he doesn't actively promote them, but nor does he claim ownership.
@@BloodoftheLotus13 I have never seen a single barber beats artist claim/pretend they originally made a track lol
I like how the old vaporwave aesthetic lives on with this.
I find myself also listening to okder music mostly thesedays. Whether ols school heavy metal from 70s-80s, city pop and funk, vaporwave type recreations of old music from our childhood or something actually from my childhood like Jungle/DnB.
I don’t think it’s even remotely up for debate that posting someone else’s work as your own is just theft if you don’t even change it.
And they're literally preying upon small artists that have less power and a smaller chance of even knowing they stole from them. It really shouldn't be a debate, these people are just uneducated on how sampling legally works. It's blatant theft and I wanna see these cronies get punished for it.
Pad you partially got me thorugh the pandemic and your content is strangely nostalgic to me now, I was in your streams 3 to 4 years ago. Thanks for puttingo out such in depth and interesting videos.
If you came to hear what barber beats sound like, you came to the wrong place. Verbal descriptions only.
Always love seeing a new video from you, especially on genres I haven't heard of before. I also find your videos on these genres inspiring to create my own music and art
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Was told to check this out cause I make "barber beats" esq beats and music, very confused on why a lot of "artists" don't just learn to create their own sound. It's pure joy that they're truly missing out on. It's a hard learning curve but for someone who loves music, every single instrument I pick up and try to learn or even use in an MDMI. Creates all new ground for me to expand upon. Just my 2 cents.
To me the people that make barber beats are curators, their work is similar to the one of a dj in the sense that they capture an aesthetic with purposely picked and manipulated tracks or samples. While the music by it self is clearly not original, with the manipulation and in conjuntion with the other tracks or samples a new body of work is created with a ditinct meaning/feeling diferent to the original material, that in my opinion has its own merit. They are the new djs of the digital bootleg era.
Good points and well said.
SUCH an honor to see this genre getting some attention!!! I am such a big fan of this genre and I totally love Pad so BIG WIN! And for my birthday today too!!! yesssss
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One Album that always really reminds of this vibe and kind of sample based production is Devon Hendryx's "Dreamcast Summer Songs" . The fascinating part is that this came out in 2009, before Vaporwave and similar genres where even a thing, which is why some people call it the first Vaporwave album. It's also heavily inspired by videogames and anime. I don't really think of it as a vaporwave record but Hendryx really was ahead of his time with this dreamy and nostalgia-based sound. Given it's recent rise in popularity, due to him becoming popular under the name Jpegmafia, I guess some people in the barber beats community may have been heavily inspired by it. It's a phenomenally produced album, definitely worth checking out :)
barber beat = lo-fi + Vapor + slow house
This popped in my recommended today, haven't seen your vids in a while and you've really improved your writing over the years, good job man
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Superb content quality, please keep up the incredible work!! 👏🏼
Thank you homie! Got a lot more videos planned for 2024, stay tuned!
i'm an artist myself, not a musical artist, but my take is that it's pretty cool. the only thing i wish for was more attribution to the original artists, but it's otherwise a fascinating genre. i have many of macroblank's albums that i downloaded before bandcamp shut them down, and i continue to listen to them pretty regularly. and hey, it's nice to see people start to do sample-free takes on the genre, the one album you showed briefly is one that i'll definitely buy soon.
i think it's really funny you specifically said "plundered" here, as in Macroblank's bio
a lot of these songs feel kind of "stolen", but i love a lot of them, and specially the way they put the songs together
People making money from it are buttheads. They could at least source the original songs. HFM just slows shit down. I mean i like the "music" , but i want more mixes and original shit.
Bro all i listen to is underground music. Im happy I found your channel
for me personally barber beats is about the curation and not creation. i think the original artists should get the majority of the kickback, but at the same time lots of these tracks are things people would never generally hear. I know lots of tracks were coming from like licensed generic dj library albums, basically contract work for the original artists. So the only chance you might have had to hear some of these is if you were at a live event they were played at, or if you are digging for samples on obscure catalogs. I know everyone is different, but personally if i was one of the original artists and my track blew up because it was on a macroblank album I'd be really thankful that people were listening to it and enjoying it. That being said, I'd still want credit. I think most barber beats producers operate on the whole "beg for forgiveness instead of ask for permission" which maybe if that changed the genre wouldn't be so controversial.
I’ve been addicted to slowerpace for a bit and now I’m onto modest by default. I think they are awesome and I love listening while I work
I've listened exclusively to HfM since 2018 and didn't know there was more until last year. I think that Vapor wave is the decade defining music of this era.
Because one thing is to have these re-revivals of Past decades creeping up like first with the 80s, then the 90s (which was a revival of the 70s) into being a sort of placebo effect of the thing many millenials and Gen Z look fondly on their early years. Now turned into more of commercializing nostalgia.
I think that Vaporwave is a true attempt to use all of these ties that we have to the past and make the remix an actual choice. The fact that the barber beat offshoot to me looks like the midpoint of being a creative mixtspe from a fully realised album was a happy coincidence.
Maybe too much thinking into this but the same way oeoo younger than 40 can't achieve the apparent hallmarks of adulthood like being a homeowner, stable income etc and then drift their expenses and interests elsewhere (the whole thing of milenials killing X industry is more because their interests are different from past generations)
I agree, vaporwave is very much a reaction to the the cultural death of the West and gen millennial onward's coping and lamenting of that. All of our faded memories of better times and our desperate attempt to go back to when our societies still seemed to function and produce works worthy of being called art
Honestly BarberBeats will be interesting to watch going forward. Anything easier to produce in any medium will always blow up.
With that being said it’s not like the sound is entirely dependent on sampling. It’s a uniquely slow and mellow sound with an amazing mix of Hip Hop, Jazz, Vaporwave, and so much more. So either this will just continue like it has, or maybe a musician or musician group will take the sound and truly make something new with it. Plenty of music movements across history have started this way, it could happen again. We ought to check back in 5 to 10 years from now to truly gauge things where things have gone.