Great video! I'm in the middle of converting my 3-pair phone cable runs to 100 Mbps Ethernet. 9:37 That's actually a crimper. A punchdown tool is the one you use to connect cables to punchdown blocks. 10:12 That's a continuity tester. Those are used for testing the wiring pinouts (i.e. that the LEDs illuminate in the correct sequence). You'd usually want to use a TONE GENERATOR to actually identify a cable. Because: 1) A tone generator does not require you to connect a jack to the line. It can sense the magnetic field through the wire. So it doesn't matter if it's RJ11, RJ45 or even has no jack at all. 2) Continuity testers can fry network equipment if you accidentally send a test voltage down a cable that has a device connected at the other end! That's why they have a "Do not use on live circuits!" warning on the back. If you know no devices are connected anywhere and all your cables have RJ45, then a continuity tester is fine. But you could also just plug in a laptop for a basic connectivity test like that. 3) It's not accurate to say that the LEDs will light up in the wrong sequence if something is sending data! Why? Try it! Any device connected to a continuity tester will NOT attempt to send data as the device will simple think it is unplugged. And even if it did try to communicate, any flashes would be so fast that you would not see them as steadily lit LEDs that were in the wrong sequence. The ONLY reason you would see the LEDs in the wrong order is because your cable is not wired correctly (hence "continuity" tester). :)
My house was built by a doctor in the late 80 he put telephone wiring all through the house in all the bedrooms and the game room I took the cap of the wall and it had 8 wires and a black cord that was separate from the other 8 wires and now I’m gonna try to run internet through it how should I do it ?
Wow Amazing. I am so glad you explained that detail about the four wires. I was so confused about why my ethernet wall plate was not using four extra wires. I thought I was going to have to replace the wall mounts, but I can just do the wiring combination you said :) Saves me so much time
Great video, really helpful, and told me exactly what I wanted to know and how to proceed with converting the redundant phone wiring in my home into an Internet circuit.
I had a guy come in today to do this job, said it will take minimum 3 hours, and quoted me $460 without a network switch ... Needless to say, I'm going to try this out on my own, then open up my own telephone-ethernet switching business and retire at 40.
Good video; I'm relaying it to a Redditor faced with this very situation (4-pair Catx wired for telephone use, needed for networking). But a few comments... * Good to recommend/demo a RJ45 testing tool for line identification and testing, but the video missed a teachable opportunity: such a testing tool cycles through the wires one-at-a-time, and the LEDs should light sequentially, 1 through 8, to confirm a good, straight-through connection; however, if you watch the sequence in the video, you'll notice that pins 4 & 5 never light-up, indicating open connections and a FAULTY cable. (i.e. This cable likely wouldn't deliver a Gigabit connection, at least not reliably.) * Such a project would benefit by using a tone tester for line identification, allowing the user to identify the lines needed for conversion *prior* to disconnection and retermination. * Video may have benefited from mentioning the patch panel alternative for terminating the central junction ends of the lines. * The visual guide recommendation for terminating the ends is a good suggestion, but a brief mention of the T568A & T568B wiring standards would have helped ... especially stating that either standard can be used, so long as both ends are terminated using the same standard and that it would make sense to use the same standard across all the connections. (e.g. You used the T568B standard for wiring the central junction RJ45 plug, per your cheat sheet coloring, so you would need to follow the T568B color legend on the RJ45 keystone jack when terminating the faceplate connection.) Ex. tone tester: www.amazon.com/Finder-Generator-Tracer-Tracker-Network/dp/B07ZH8SLBL/ref=asc_df_B07ZH8SLBL/
StarLAN, which became 10baseT, was designed to share existing 3 pair CAT3 cable with a telephone. So, 10 Mb is definitely doable, though faster may depend on your installation and cable lenths.
The only problem is that my telefone wires are currently nected in series. Like a bus interface. So I need a switch in every room? Couse it's totally impossible to pas more than 1 wire in that tube
I appreciate the video. It is very helpful. I have one question. My house does not have a phone panel or anything like that. There are many wires together, and I cannot tell which one is the outside wire. Will it cause any trouble if I do not disconnect the line that goes out of the house?
We are all sitting here talking about telephone wires and ethernet but no one is talking about why you go deaf in your left ear when watching this video
Awesome that you answer questions. Not sure I can be helped. Home late 90's, rural with landline phones, one phone box on exterior of house using DSL. Would like to use ethernet cable but still need phone lines for voice and data. I have a router from phone company and box for satellite. Using wifi for Ipads, cell phones and laptops. Doorbell camera and outside cameras are hard wired to router. With all of this, would it help to install cat 6 and if so, how to go about it.
Great video, man. I just moved into a new house that has phone jacks throughout the house. Do I convert all of them to ethernet ports or just the main one that connects to the service provider?
I just bought a new build house that I know has CAT5. Can I wire a jack in my office that is currently RJ11 and hook that into the router in a outgoing port and use that to connect to another converted jack in another part of the house if I don't connect the router at the box like you did? I have COAX cable in my office for the in signal of my modem.
George don't quite understand. If the rj11 is using cat 3 or 5 you can convert it. You can then use that jack to send signals to a router in a different part of the house.
My ADT security system has 4 wire twisted pair, and motion sensors connected but I no longer want to use the motion sensors, I'd be interested in putting POE cameras in place of the motion sensors. Have you heard of this?
@@stevenc22 good to know. And I don't mind putting the switch near it, got lucky because in some areas of the house they actually used cat5e to run telephone so I've already converted that And it's right next to the alarm box. It's already caddywampus lol!
It's good you're showing how to convert a telephone able into a ethernet cable. But just telling us a couple of times that 4 wires can be used for a 100mbs would be enough. You repeat this so many times. I feel bad for making this comment now.
I have a bedroom with a telephone line and it is an eight wire cable. How do you know where the other end of the cable is located? In my office where my router is located there are about 6 telephone ports throughout the room.
I have a question hopefully you'll answer. My ISP uses DSL and they provided a router/modem which unfortunately stop work so I replaced it with a Huawei hg2845w5. I'm now wondering if I get a converter cable from DSL to wan connector if I could get it to work for internet purposes. Also my ISP used a splitter so I have a separate DSL for the telephone and another one for broadband
Not sure what you asking. DSL comes in through a phone line, goes through the modem and then gets converted to a standard Internet / network. You need the modem to do the conversion.
Hi I have the same 2 pairs that you show on your video, however the picture at the end doesn’t show the same colors, where should be the blue and orange? Thank you
Colors don't matter. Just use the same colors in the same pins on both sides of the cable. Picture at the end shows Orange and green. So just substitute green for blue and follow the picture. Just be consistent on both ends of the cable
you describe cat 3 as blue/blue white and orange/orange white, yet at the end of the video the diagram is green/ green white and orange/orange white. which is it?
I have my ethernet ports wired up. pair going to pins 1 and 2, the other pair going to 3 and 6, but when I connect a device I'm not getting internet. any suggestions would be appreciated. I double checked that the striped vs solid color wires are not swapped between ports.
@@stevenc22I rewired my phone jacks to ethernet ports and connected the 4 wires as mentioned above. when I plug in an ethernet cable and connect my network cable tester, it lights up for pins 1, 2, 3, and 6 in that order. I thought that was all that was needed. just the 4 wires.
the only answers I've found is that it might be due to my internet speed being 300mbps and the cat3 wires just cannot handle it. I was under the impression that the cat3 wires would carry to their capacity whether that is 10mbps or 100mbps regardless of how high the internet speed is. I've seen people saying to downgrade the internet speed to 10mbps to get cat3 to work, but I'm not doing that.... or positive that would fix the issue.
Wire color doesn't matter. As long as you have 2 twisted pairs you are fine. Make up your own color code and as long as you use the same color code on both ends of the wire you should be fine.
@@stevenc22 I saw somewhere and compared to my own that I have the ITC-100 cable. It has 4 wires, its round but only has 1 white wire, a "sheild" and a ground wire. I just dont know if I would be able to convert this wire to the ethernet. I can't really tell if the wires are twisted togetrher. It looks like they are all twisted together.
Thanks, this is super interesting, It appears when the line was set up in my house, I have a green, blue, yellow and red line but only the green line is plugged into the telephone port. It seems that the other six total wires are wrapped around the outside of a bigger white insulator that covers them until they run out. So do I need to still use those other six wires or can I get by by only using the green wire and the one that it is wrapped around it?
You need at least 4 wires for network connection. Also the type of cable you are describing doesn't sounds like twisted pair wiring. Without twisted pairs the cable might not work since the twists are for eliminating interference over long distance
Stevenc22 the green wire is twisted with a white wire with small green spots on it and the other Cole red wires each have a white wire with small bits of color to represent which wire the belong to
In my telephone wire has four color wires blue, orange and two white. At the end there is a image how to connect four wire to rj45 jack, so can I connect my blue color one to the same pin you have figured out for green?
Are they twisted? If so you should be good to go. Just make sure you use one twisted pair for the transmit pins (1&2) and the other twisted pair for receive (3&6)
Just can’t get it to work. I used pin 1,2,3 and 6. I put a tester on it and I have continuity to all four. Still no data transfer. The phone line is black but doesn’t appear to be twisted pairs. Would that mater?
@@stevenc22 i'm planning on trying cuz wireless repeater/access point sucks(too much loss on internet speed). I also tried lengthy rj45 cable and it looks messy but works though.
Hello there, I have question and I hope to receive an answer from you. It seems like I have a single line phone in my house(two wires). Is there possible way to ethernet cable(8p). Thanks for the video by the way!
Unfortunately you cannot do anything with just two wires. You will either need to pull a new ethernet wire or look into using ethernet over power line adapters
I've just bought a RJ45 ethernet cable by mistake hoping to plug into landline socket (RJ11) and router also RJ11.....if i buy a couple of adapters will that solve my problem ?
Adapters might work but I don't understand what you are trying to do? Where does the landline run to? Is that you incoming internet connection? If so I think and 4 wire rj11 cable would probably work.
@@stevenc22 i just bought the wrong cable, i wanted to replace my RJ11 to RJ11 internet cable but ordered RJ45 cat 8 ethernet cable which will not fit my phone socket nor my router...so if i buy two adaptors will this cable then work ?
@@stevenc22 thanks for the reply, but yeah, my situation is pretty dire... The Vdsl modem (80Mbits with plans to update it to 160Mbits) is on the first floor, where the phone cable comes inside the house(if I tried to connect it anywhere else the signal would be so poor that it wouldn't be different from an Adsl), and my desktop is in the third one, but the first floor is wired to a different circuit breaker, so I wouldn't probably get a good enough speed(also they seem pretty expensive)... For now I'm stuck with a WiFi range extender, but again despite all the hype on the 5Ghz AC standard it works "better" only by forcing the 2.4Ghz N mode (and by better I mean 50 Mbits instead of 5, but after a while they still drop to 30Mbits...) Other alternatives may be MOCA or those ridiculous "Ethernet over Vdsl" modulators/repeaters, but they may interfere with other equipments and they are so expensive that I might just drill a hole through the floors and lay down a Cat6 Cable...
Im kinda unlucky as well but only the other bedrooms in the house have 1 pair. The main telephone outlet has 2 (they are for analogue phones though) and every other place at the basement has 2 pairs (probably because we had 2 telephone lines to be able to use both phone and internet at the same time in the dial up era) but the problem is that i cant connect first and second floor networks because 1 of the 2 pairs in the main outlet is active, connected to my ISP.
@@the_danksmith134 sometimes I get an urge to drill a hole through the floors till I reach the basement and simply lay an Ethernet cable, but then I rememberer that all the shops are closed nowadays... Besides, it's more than 30 centimeters of steel and concrete...
@@Valery0p5 I also want to upgrade my home network such as setting up a very high speed 10Gbit network with future proof wiring that in the future could even run on 100Gbit but I cant go out due to this pandemic. On the plus side though corona virus might actually bring us faster Internet. See all the people stay inside and Internet usage has skyrocketed so much that ISPs in my country are struggling to handle this much traffic and so they may finally upgrade their ancient copper wiring to fiber not all the way to our homes though mostly to the cabinets (FTTC). Such example is that last week one of our ISPs brought 50mbit Vdsl in our area with our current one about to bring it in the next 1 or 2 weeks or something. I might actually have 100mbit soon (even though they advertise 100mbit to work with FTTH but i have a very high chance to get it working, since im literally 30 meters away from one of those cabinets and signal degradation will be low, just by utilising the second pair in the main outlet I was talking about before)
@@storm-john6007 that cable must be connected to a switch and router for the internet to come through the cable. If you wire RJ45 jacks onto a cat 3 cable, that cable becomes just like any other network cable and is only as good as the network setup you have.
We only have wall jacks in our house that have 3 twisted pairs. Would I just need to replace the ports with ethernet ports for me to connect to the network? Or would I also have to do something else at the other end for it to work?
Closets! Almost always the closet. Sometimes the box is built into the wall and there might just be a cover plate over the wall. Older homes might be on the outside of house.
Hello, I recently found your video. My home is wired with (UL) CMX OUTDOOR ESSEX 4C22 AWG 108 7 C (UL) CMH. Can you please tell me what type of cable this is and if it will be able to be used for a network. It doesn’t look like the wires are twisted. Thank you
At 6:22 , are you saying that when the telephone connection is connected to you home, to switch it from a cat3 to either a cat5e or a cat6? If so, with twitter of this make any of a difference from that point to either you modem or router?
@@stevenc22 my bad, was going on with almost a 48 day. By 'twitter' I was meaning to write ether switch box. But I found found the answer by rewatching your video after sleeping. Lol.
Hey, idk if you still respond to these but I figured I’d check. I took the wall jack out to expose the cable, and I found that I have two cables running into the jack with 8 wires (4 colors, one of each on each cable). Is this the same as the 8 wire cable you displayed in the video? Thanks for any help
Stevenc22 yes, each cable has 4, one of each color. The colors are green, red, black, and yellow. The green wires are intertwined, the red are too, etc. (green w/ green, red w/ red, black w/ black, and yellow w/ yellow)
@@jacobholm721 that is really weird. But if the wires are truly twisted in pairs then you can wire them in a network. Send me a picture stevencarstens @ gmail
I'm installing a phone jack to an existing phone line in my house. The house sites are green, orange, blue, ..green and white, blue and white, and orange and white. the new phone jack wires are red, green, yellow and black. Which color goes to which when the colors do not match? This is for internet.
Hey i have a question. My wires dont look like they are in bundles it looks like they are just 4 wires not really twisted or anything. Does this still work for me then?
The twist is important because it eliminates interference over long distances. However another viewer reported success using 4 straight wires over a 40 ft distance. Check the other comments below.
I tried wiring my phone line which is 2 twisted pairs and unfortunately it barely works. I live in a bungalow and I tried to take internet from my bedroom down to my basement where my media server lives for a faster connection and unfortunately I cannot transfer any files to my pc upstairs. All I can do is see the files on the server but not able to transfer because I keep getting errors. I already have Ethernet over power line and only get 1 MB transfer speed. I even cut off a few feet of the phone line cable just to be able to get my PC downstairs to be able to connect to my router upstairs. $45 bucks poorer and no results.
@@stevenc22 I did check for that exact issue and the line is not pig tailed anywhere. It goes straight from the basement to the bedroom. I thought I would just do a voltage check and hooked up a 9 volt battery in my bedroom and checked voltage on both pairs of wires in the basement and I was seeing 9 volts. The cable I dont think is any longer than 15 feet and my Ethernet cable adds another 20 feet to that, so that might be the problem.
I saw somewhere and compared to my own that I have the ITC-100 cable. It has 4 wires, its not flat but only has 1 white wire, a "sheild" and a ground wire. I just dont know if I would be able to convert this wire to the ethernet
in my house I each phone jack has wires coming in and going out to the next phone jack, can I do the same with my rj45 connection while only using 2 twisted pairs?
You cannot daisy chain network connections the same way you daisy chain analog phone lines. If you convert 2 pairs to network, you need to terminate the two ends of the network with no daisy chains in the middle. What i mean is if the cable goes from the closet to jack 1 then on to jack 2. You need to cut the cable at jack one and put RJ45 connections on the cables and then install a switch at jack one and plug in the cable to jack 2 into the switch. Network connections are from point A to Point B. They do not daisy chain up.
I've cat 3 in my walls. Assume that using all the 4 cables in cat3 to put a cat6 keystone jack than using ethernet cable from my modem to the keystone jack which I've converted from cat 3 than can I get a connection from another jack in the wall ?
Yes. So long as the cable in the wall goes direct from point A to Point B. Sometimes telephone cable daisy chains multiple telephone jacks together. That will not work for a network. As long as your cable modem goes in to the wall and that cat 3 goes directly to another jack, the network should come out at the other jack at 100mbps
@@stevenc22 Thanks man, some people say it should be cat5/6 to carry data and I don't want to break the walls for something can be done with cat3. I'll give it a try. If i can manage to do this, I will set up some mesh wifi routers with that jacks and subscribe to your channel lol
I have a box where all the rj11s are connected to(the wiring is Cat5e). Do I have to change the end of those rj11s to rj45s as well and change out the box? Or, can I have one end with rj45 where the router plugs into the wall, then the other end is plugged to an rj11 box. Then another Cat5e with rj11 is plugged into that box with a rj45 end on the other end in my game room.... will internet work throughout this?
Technically you can use the box with a rj11 to rj45 adapter cable but becareful. Hard to keep the cables in the right order when you go through boxes and adapters
Stevenc22 okay so just to clarify for my understanding because I am not the best at this... I can leave that box with the rj11 ends alone and just change out the other ends, the RJ45s and it will all still run internet?
@@davidep915 yes if the individual cables stay in order. If yellow is pin 1 at the start of the run, yellow needs to be pin 1 at end of run. Some box flip wires and some telephone boxes only use 2 wires. Triple check the box is using all 4 wires and the order of the cables. But should work if you triple check everything.
Stevenc22 I wish I could attach pictures here lol, but yes all the colored wires looked to be used on the RJ11 ends so I will give this a try. You are awesome thanks for the help
Of course if they are twisted pairs. If you have pairs of wire that are spiral around each then you have a real chance of doing this. You use four wires for the ethernet and you can even use the remaining two wires still for phone lines
@@stevenc22 Old RJ11 wall jack w/ red, white, black, blue, green, yellow that I'm wondering can be converted for ethernet. I'd like to use it as a power-over-ethernet for a USB device. Many thanks for the quick reply.
@@stevenc22 No, it actually looks just like this except older, images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/7071026e-c5c7-4b65-b70c-3368c06e4020/svn/stnstl-leviton-wall-jack-plates-40226-s-66_1000.jpg
Hey, I have fibre optic broadband in my living connected to a virgin media hub. I connect a few devices directly into the hub and also use it in WiFi mode. Upstairs there are some phone ports (RJ11 I believe). Can I convert these to be Ethernet ports? Will they be active since my broadband comes in to the virgin hub via a kind of coax cable?
Yes you can covert them. You need to terminate the phone lines into a switch which in turn is connected to the virgin hub. Treat these just like they were network cables and you need to plug them into the virgin hub
Rich has long moved on, I expect, but trying to use daisy-chained (shorted!) wires for Ethernet wouldn't work. Instead, if you can't use the old lines to run fresh, full-length Cat6 replacement lines, what you can do/try is replace the daisy-chained "phone" junctions with connections to distinct network switches. That is, disconnect the daisy-chained lines at a given junction and reterminate for Ethernet ... and connect each line into a network switch. You'd need to make sure no additional daisy-chains exist upstream or downstream of the connected switch, repeating the above at each junction to be repurposed ... and leave disconnected any lines not reworked.
I don’t understand where the internet comes from. Do you plug your modem into that switch? And that disperses it through the rest of the house? Maybe I’m dumb and I’m missing something. Someone please explain
You still need a modem and switch. The telephone cable is replacing the normal network cabling but everything else works the same. Modem - router - cable - device
Your Cat3 appears to actually just be modern Cat5 but rated and labeled for telephone use only, your pairs are very twisted in the range of many twists per inch. The Cat3 I have is original 1997 made and the twisted pairs are basically straight maybe half a twist per foot. Please comment on if this will work with a true (basically not twisted) telephone Cat3
Multiple people in the comments have reported some success with straight telephone cable over shorter distances. The twist is to eliminate interference over long distances.
Ours is idk why but afaicr (recall) its cat 3 but its like for some reason only currently hooked into the rj11 etc for some reason just the center two blue and blue/white stripes ones hooked on the jacks daisy chained at four locations in house
I don't understand how this works I'm sorry, I have a phone cable (rj11 if I'm correct) coming out of the wall and i wanna know how to work it to where i can plug it into my pc and use it as ethernet since my router is downstairs and the wireless connection is bad
Over a month I am trying to find this:in some POS terminals, they use (FOR SURE) POS RJ10 port for connecting POS with router. So, for ethernet connection or networking. Whatever. In this cable, one side is with RJ45 connector. The other side, is with RJ10 connector. a. What is cable mapping RJ45 -> RJ10 ? b. When using RJ10 not for telephone but for networking, its 1, 2, 3, 4 contacts what goes to TX+ TX- RX+ RX- ? c. A link diagram would be great!! Wish YOU could answer my a. b. c. Thank you for your time!!
@@stevenc22 Thank you very much for your answer! Yes, I will use 1,2,3,6 on RJ45 side. But how to map on the other side 4P4C that has just 4 pins? Where to connect RJ45 1,2,3,6 on 4P4C 1,2,3,4? Thank you.
@@yiannisserpico2646 I don't know because the rj10 is probably a proprietary plug. But if you have 1 of the old cables map both sides. RJ45 wire 6 to rj10 wire 4 ect... Once you know the mapping on both sides you are good to go.
@ STEVENC22 or ANYONE I need to change my home phone line, the whole line which is underground due to it being faulty and very old. I want to know what to ask the shops for when going to buy a new line? I want to replace the whole cable which is underground and I will also be using cat5 socket thing.
Will the cable be buried or inside of a conduit? If its inside a conduit you can just normal cat 5 or cat 6. For being buried they make outdoor rated cat 5. amzn.to/3fkXP7D
@@stevenc22 it will be buried. So u are saying I can use a whole cat 5 as the cable for my home line? I thought I would need to use a different home telephone cable and then use a cat5 wall socket? So which cable would I need if replacing the whole home phone line which is under my house and in the ground?
@@sendlocation8476 it depends on what kind of cable you already have buried! You can use cat 5 for telephone but you can also just bury a 2 or 4 wire telephone line. Really depends what your old line was.
the diagram in 12:11 shows a pair of orange and green but mine cat3 has a blue pair is the green = the blue here also in the other cable in cat5 is it all cables at the same order like that or is there some they change the colors like the cat3 I got confused actuality
@@stevenc22 yeah but I am trying to connect cat3 to cat5 with the regular way just ligature it then wrap it using electrical tape but the colors are my problem my cat3 has two pairs blue and orange and my cat5 has 4 pairs blue, orange, green and that coppery color I don't know what connects to what
Easy. Cat 3 uses pins 123 and 6. Match up the colors on the cat 5 wiring on pins 123 and 6. Or even easier, terminate the cat 3 and the cat 5 and use a rj45 coupler to join the 2 wires
@@stevenc22 so Is it? cat3 ------ cat5 blue/white to orange/white blue to orange orange/white to green/white orange to green and I really appreciate your help
Bander31 you can use this to extend your WiFi. You can plug a WiFi extender on the end of this to expand the wifi. But really this can be used to bypass unreliable wifi with a cable connection.
You need to run a LAN cable out of one of the LAN sockets on your router to where your phone lines meet (like the box shown at the beginning of the video) and plug it into a RJ45 switch (you can get a 5-way for about $10. Now put RJ45 jacks with the correct wiring onto 4 of the cables in your box, and you will have 4 live sockets in your home where you can plug in an RJ45 cable to run a computer or other internet device. Oh, and you will probably have to rewire the RJ12 sockets in your rooms to RJ45 with 4 wires rather than 2. This is very doable, however if it seems like too much work, you could also use a TP-Link device to transmit the internet signal over your power lines within the home. I got a pair (transmitter, receiver) of this device for about $20, extra receivers cost more) to avoid using a 75-foot cable along the floor from my router to my desk at the front of the house and it works beautifully. The download and upload speeds are the same is with the 75-ft LAN cable. With either option, you can add an additional wifi router at the other end of the house to reinforce your wi-fi signals, so that phone and tablet wifi users (aka children) can connect and get a good signal, or improve the signal on your driveway or for T-Mobile wifi calling.
alright but how do you connect the ethernet to the other side of it my phone company brings only 2 copper wires for the line which cables do i connect sorry i dont want to pay them extra 120euro so they can fix it but i use cat5e
@@stevenc22 Sorry let me make it clear my internet provider brought to my house back in the 90s 2 wires for phone they are made of copper how to i connect them to ethernet line?
Are they twisted???? If they are not twisted pairs that signal will not carry very well through walls. Based on those colors you probably have non twisted regular telephone cable which won't work very well
i have 8 wire telephone wire and 4 of the wires are striped/dotted could i convert this to Ethernet and get over 100 mbps sorry if dumb question ive been trying to figure everything out and im a new to this someone told me that i wont work
Phone closet? I think my phone utility box is outside my home (Spectrum). A tech told me the coax cable is supplying the ethernet into my modem & then an ethernet cable is routed into my router to receive signal. I would like to convert the phone jack in an upstairs bonus room into an ethernet line (to extend a wired connection). I checked the outlet & it has 4 pairs of wires as shown in the video. Would this be possible?
@@stevenc22 hey mate sorry to bother, but i got problem.. i converted my telephone cable to ethernet by changing rj11 to rj45 female socket (i connected as said 1,2,3 and 6th pin) and wired it to pc with 8 wires prebuilt short male-male rj45 as well as for the other side from the router to the rj45 female socket in the wall...pc does not even recognize the connection. Could it be cause of the 8 pin wire that was used from rj45 female (wall socket) to pc and from router to the other side of rj45 female or i did something else wrong? sorry again for bothering you :D
So I just needed a point to point connection within the house, so I made adapters/cables that connect the RJ-45(male) to the wall jack via male RJ-11 into the 4 wire telephone jack then in another room a RJ-11 goes to the RJ-45. The cable tester showed wires 1,2,3, and 6 as good. so when I plug in the wire into the router/switch and the other end in another room the laptop doesn't detect the connection, is there any adapter settings that need to be changed for this to work? (I'll keep searching for a solution, if I find one I'll delete the comment)
Did you set static IP address on both computers? A point to point connection without a router will only work if you assign both devices an IP address manually
Also a point to point connection needs a cross over cable not a regular cable. Put a switch on the end of one of the connections and then plug the device into the switch
Also, at one end is the Router and the other is my laptop, that I am using to ensure that the connection will hold. Routers is set to assign each MAC address with a static IP until list is full then it will reassign IPs from devices that have not connected within a month.
@@csgmail4316 It's not, actually. The video uses an RJ45 *plug* at the central junction and a modular RJ45 keystone *jack* at the faceplates. Terminology matters, especially when looking to order parts.
@@stevenc22 also I just opened it and I am wondering why my wires aren’t twisted the white ones just have little dots on them to mark which one is for what colour
If it's not twisted you may have network interference and it might not work. The twist is pretty important. Some people have reported success with non twisted wire but twisted is better.
@@stevenc22 thank you for replying. Do you think i should directly connect my computer to the data cable coming from outside or connect it to the router?
@@InputBen you need a modem / router to convert the incoming signal. You cannot just hook your computer directly to the incoming signal. Send the incoming signal through the modem/ router then on to your computer
Stevenc22 There’s one more thing I like to ask you my wires inside have like this like bee butt thing at the end in the wires what do I do with those just cut them out and use the wires,and also whatever you do to one side of the wire u have to do to another?
@@Jwxzy are they twisted in pairs? If they are not twisted in pairs, then the Ethernet will not work. The twist stops interference over long distances. If they are twisted pairs, then you can pick any two pairs of twisted wires as long as you use the same colors in the same position on both sides of the wires. Make sense?
Will this work if the phone lines are split to feed into different rooms in the house? For example, I only have two Cat 3 cables going from my garage and feeding into the rooms.
Not really. You need to intercept the cable before it splits. Most likely you can find which room the cable goes to first and intercept it there and turn it into a network jack.
I'm installing a phone jack to an existing phone line in my house. The house sites are green, orange, blue, ..green and white, blue and white, and orange and white. the new phone jack wires are red, green, yellow and black. Which color goes to which when the colors do not match? This is for internet.
Regina Hinant are they twisted pair cables? If so just make your own color code and use the same code on both sides of the line. The colors don't matter, just the order of the wires on both sides of the line
Great video! I'm in the middle of converting my 3-pair phone cable runs to 100 Mbps Ethernet.
9:37 That's actually a crimper. A punchdown tool is the one you use to connect cables to punchdown blocks.
10:12 That's a continuity tester. Those are used for testing the wiring pinouts (i.e. that the LEDs illuminate in the correct sequence).
You'd usually want to use a TONE GENERATOR to actually identify a cable. Because:
1) A tone generator does not require you to connect a jack to the line. It can sense the magnetic field through the wire. So it doesn't matter if it's RJ11, RJ45 or even has no jack at all.
2) Continuity testers can fry network equipment if you accidentally send a test voltage down a cable that has a device connected at the other end! That's why they have a "Do not use on live circuits!" warning on the back. If you know no devices are connected anywhere and all your cables have RJ45, then a continuity tester is fine. But you could also just plug in a laptop for a basic connectivity test like that.
3) It's not accurate to say that the LEDs will light up in the wrong sequence if something is sending data! Why? Try it! Any device connected to a continuity tester will NOT attempt to send data as the device will simple think it is unplugged. And even if it did try to communicate, any flashes would be so fast that you would not see them as steadily lit LEDs that were in the wrong sequence. The ONLY reason you would see the LEDs in the wrong order is because your cable is not wired correctly (hence "continuity" tester). :)
@redshift You might have 1 side of the cable using a different standard then the other side
Legend just saved me lots of time and money
My house was built by a doctor in the late 80 he put telephone wiring all through the house in all the bedrooms and the game room I took the cap of the wall and it had 8 wires and a black cord that was separate from the other 8 wires and now I’m gonna try to run internet through it how should I do it ?
Wow Amazing. I am so glad you explained that detail about the four wires. I was so confused about why my ethernet wall plate was not using four extra wires. I thought I was going to have to replace the wall mounts, but I can just do the wiring combination you said :) Saves me so much time
I opened the panel, looked and it's 8 wires! Thank you!
GREAT video! I've been wanted to do something like this but thought I'd have to rewired the entire house with Cat5 cable. Thanks for explaining!
Great video, really helpful, and told me exactly what I wanted to know and how to proceed with converting the redundant phone wiring in my home into an Internet circuit.
I had a guy come in today to do this job, said it will take minimum 3 hours, and quoted me $460 without a network switch ...
Needless to say, I'm going to try this out on my own, then open up my own telephone-ethernet switching business and retire at 40.
LOL sounds like a plan
Good video; I'm relaying it to a Redditor faced with this very situation (4-pair Catx wired for telephone use, needed for networking).
But a few comments...
* Good to recommend/demo a RJ45 testing tool for line identification and testing, but the video missed a teachable opportunity: such a testing tool cycles through the wires one-at-a-time, and the LEDs should light sequentially, 1 through 8, to confirm a good, straight-through connection; however, if you watch the sequence in the video, you'll notice that pins 4 & 5 never light-up, indicating open connections and a FAULTY cable. (i.e. This cable likely wouldn't deliver a Gigabit connection, at least not reliably.)
* Such a project would benefit by using a tone tester for line identification, allowing the user to identify the lines needed for conversion *prior* to disconnection and retermination.
* Video may have benefited from mentioning the patch panel alternative for terminating the central junction ends of the lines.
* The visual guide recommendation for terminating the ends is a good suggestion, but a brief mention of the T568A & T568B wiring standards would have helped ... especially stating that either standard can be used, so long as both ends are terminated using the same standard and that it would make sense to use the same standard across all the connections. (e.g. You used the T568B standard for wiring the central junction RJ45 plug, per your cheat sheet coloring, so you would need to follow the T568B color legend on the RJ45 keystone jack when terminating the faceplate connection.)
Ex. tone tester: www.amazon.com/Finder-Generator-Tracer-Tracker-Network/dp/B07ZH8SLBL/ref=asc_df_B07ZH8SLBL/
StarLAN, which became 10baseT, was designed to share existing 3 pair CAT3 cable with a telephone. So, 10 Mb is definitely doable, though faster may depend on your installation and cable lenths.
This was one of the most well done videos I have seen.
Why didn’t you spend more time on how to punch down the pairs in the keystone and rj45 ? The few seconds of pics weren’t enough to understand.
The only problem is that my telefone wires are currently nected in series. Like a bus interface. So I need a switch in every room? Couse it's totally impossible to pas more than 1 wire in that tube
Yes, you need to wire point to point. Do not leave series connections
Thanks bro
Thank you for a very good podcast.
I appreciate the video. It is very helpful. I have one question. My house does not have a phone panel or anything like that. There are many wires together, and I cannot tell which one is the outside wire. Will it cause any trouble if I do not disconnect the line that goes out of the house?
Yes. Each cable must terminate on each end
We are all sitting here talking about telephone wires and ethernet but no one is talking about why you go deaf in your left ear when watching this video
thanks for the video, very helpful.
Many thanks for this great idea.
Awesome that you answer questions. Not sure I can be helped. Home late 90's, rural with landline phones, one phone box on exterior of house using DSL. Would like to use ethernet cable but still need phone lines for voice and data. I have a router from phone company and box for satellite. Using wifi for Ipads, cell phones and laptops. Doorbell camera and outside cameras are hard wired to router. With all of this, would it help to install cat 6 and if so, how to go about it.
If the house is a single story, easy to drop new cat 6 from attic down the walls. Easy
@@stevenc22 Thank you.
@@stevenc22 Just wanted to reply to agree with the above poster as regards continued support to viewers. Kudos.
Great video, man. I just moved into a new house that has phone jacks throughout the house. Do I convert all of them to ethernet ports or just the main one that connects to the service provider?
I would covert the main one and a couple to important parts of the house like the study
@@stevenc22 Thanks so much for your response. I hope I can do the job.
@@watuzi just remember you still need a switch and a router. The network must still be configured properly.
What are the odds you can combine two cat-3 telephone wires together on both ends to make a gigabit line???
It would probably work!
I just bought a new build house that I know has CAT5. Can I wire a jack in my office that is currently RJ11 and hook that into the router in a outgoing port and use that to connect to another converted jack in another part of the house if I don't connect the router at the box like you did? I have COAX cable in my office for the in signal of my modem.
George don't quite understand. If the rj11 is using cat 3 or 5 you can convert it. You can then use that jack to send signals to a router in a different part of the house.
My ADT security system has 4 wire twisted pair, and motion sensors connected but I no longer want to use the motion sensors, I'd be interested in putting POE cameras in place of the motion sensors. Have you heard of this?
Most cheap NVR security cameras use 4 wire cabling so you can do it. Problem is you would need to install the NVR right next to the alarm pad.
@@stevenc22 good to know. And I don't mind putting the switch near it, got lucky because in some areas of the house they actually used cat5e to run telephone so I've already converted that And it's right next to the alarm box. It's already caddywampus lol!
It's good you're showing how to convert a telephone able into a ethernet cable. But just telling us a couple of times that 4 wires can be used for a 100mbs would be enough. You repeat this so many times. I feel bad for making this comment now.
Lol I do repeat my self alot for emphasis.
I have adsl 2+ should I use twisted cables instead of phone cable to optimize speed and stability?
Yes. Twist is important over longer distances
Thanks. Very well explained.
I have a bedroom with a telephone line and it is an eight wire cable. How do you know where the other end of the cable is located? In my office where my router is located there are about 6 telephone ports throughout the room.
Get a tester and trace the wires. www.amazon.com/dp/B01M63EMBQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_TqJKFbE0Q8AA6
I have a question hopefully you'll answer. My ISP uses DSL and they provided a router/modem which unfortunately stop work so I replaced it with a Huawei hg2845w5. I'm now wondering if I get a converter cable from DSL to wan connector if I could get it to work for internet purposes.
Also my ISP used a splitter so I have a separate DSL for the telephone and another one for broadband
Not sure what you asking. DSL comes in through a phone line, goes through the modem and then gets converted to a standard Internet / network. You need the modem to do the conversion.
Hi I have the same 2 pairs that you show on your video, however the picture at the end doesn’t show the same colors, where should be the blue and orange? Thank you
Colors don't matter. Just use the same colors in the same pins on both sides of the cable. Picture at the end shows Orange and green. So just substitute green for blue and follow the picture. Just be consistent on both ends of the cable
you describe cat 3 as blue/blue white and orange/orange white, yet at the end of the video the diagram is green/ green white and orange/orange white. which is it?
i think i found the answer in the comments. color doesn't matter just wire them and match them correctly.
I have my ethernet ports wired up. pair going to pins 1 and 2, the other pair going to 3 and 6, but when I connect a device I'm not getting internet. any suggestions would be appreciated. I double checked that the striped vs solid color wires are not swapped between ports.
You wiring sounds correct. Check that you don't have a bad crimp. Make sure all the wire are right to the front of the RJ45
@@stevenc22I rewired my phone jacks to ethernet ports and connected the 4 wires as mentioned above. when I plug in an ethernet cable and connect my network cable tester, it lights up for pins 1, 2, 3, and 6 in that order. I thought that was all that was needed. just the 4 wires.
the only answers I've found is that it might be due to my internet speed being 300mbps and the cat3 wires just cannot handle it. I was under the impression that the cat3 wires would carry to their capacity whether that is 10mbps or 100mbps regardless of how high the internet speed is. I've seen people saying to downgrade the internet speed to 10mbps to get cat3 to work, but I'm not doing that.... or positive that would fix the issue.
Behind my telephone line, there’s 3 cables. Wtf?
Same here...
Lucky you. I got 2
@John Lionaridi why though lol
what if we only have 2 pairs and they are cat3. the colors are orange and blue.what do i do then
Wire color doesn't matter. As long as you have 2 twisted pairs you are fine. Make up your own color code and as long as you use the same color code on both ends of the wire you should be fine.
@@stevenc22 I saw somewhere and compared to my own that I have the ITC-100 cable. It has 4 wires, its round but only has 1 white wire, a "sheild" and a ground wire. I just dont know if I would be able to convert this wire to the ethernet. I can't really tell if the wires are twisted togetrher. It looks like they are all twisted together.
@@jer1ck you know since the wire is shielded there if a possibly it will work actually
Thanks, this is super interesting, It appears when the line was set up in my house, I have a green, blue, yellow and red line but only the green line is plugged into the telephone port. It seems that the other six total wires are wrapped around the outside of a bigger white insulator that covers them until they run out. So do I need to still use those other six wires or can I get by by only using the green wire and the one that it is wrapped around it?
You need at least 4 wires for network connection. Also the type of cable you are describing doesn't sounds like twisted pair wiring. Without twisted pairs the cable might not work since the twists are for eliminating interference over long distance
Stevenc22 the green wire is twisted with a white wire with small green spots on it and the other Cole red wires each have a white wire with small bits of color to represent which wire the belong to
Excuse my typos
@@fostersavitsky7175 if there are pairs of two wires twisted with each other then it should work fine. Use 4 wires are wire per my diagram
I’m just wanting to upgrade the one wire for my phone and broadband in my home, can I do this?
Explain what you mean by "one wire". You can use a single 8 wire cat 5 cable for both telephone and broadband
If I have 2 RJ11 cable with 6 pins each, can I make a RJ45 with 8 pins from both of them and get 1 gbps?
Technically yes. As long as they are twisted pairs and you get the color codes right.
In my telephone wire has four color wires blue, orange and two white.
At the end there is a image how to connect four wire to rj45 jack, so can I connect my blue color one to the same pin you have figured out for green?
Are they twisted? If so you should be good to go. Just make sure you use one twisted pair for the transmit pins (1&2) and the other twisted pair for receive (3&6)
@@stevenc22 Are they not twisted sir.
Blue, orange and two complete white wires
@@gihandilanka If they are not twisted the signal will get weak very quickly. You can still do it, but the signal wont last more than 15 or 20 feet
Very well explained 👍🏾👍🏾
Awesome video !!!!!!!!!! Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just can’t get it to work. I used pin 1,2,3 and 6. I put a tester on it and I have continuity to all four. Still no data transfer. The phone line is black but doesn’t appear to be twisted pairs. Would that mater?
It will over a long distance. The twist keeps interference out of the signal. Non twisted pair probably won't work over anything than a few feet
@@stevenc22 well got to be what it is then, The line would be 125 feet or so.
I thought you were actually going to show the wiring of the jacks and rj45 connectors?
I did in a follow up video
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Was the cable you converted an intercom cable? My house currently has an unused intercom wires on the wall.
Are the wires twisted in pairs? Intercom wires might be flat wires which would probably suffer from interference over a long distance
@@stevenc22 it looks like it's not twisted. There are about 10 insulated wires in the itercom
@@Superboy-fl5xsokay. That might work for a short distance. But long distance the twist becomes important
@@stevenc22 i'm planning on trying cuz wireless repeater/access point sucks(too much loss on internet speed). I also tried lengthy rj45 cable and it looks messy but works though.
Hello there, I have question and I hope to receive an answer from you. It seems like I have a single line phone in my house(two wires). Is there possible way to ethernet cable(8p). Thanks for the video by the way!
Unfortunately you cannot do anything with just two wires. You will either need to pull a new ethernet wire or look into using ethernet over power line adapters
I've just bought a RJ45 ethernet cable by mistake hoping to plug into landline socket (RJ11) and router also RJ11.....if i buy a couple of adapters will that solve my problem ?
Adapters might work but I don't understand what you are trying to do? Where does the landline run to? Is that you incoming internet connection? If so I think and 4 wire rj11 cable would probably work.
@@stevenc22 i just bought the wrong cable, i wanted to replace my RJ11 to RJ11 internet cable but ordered RJ45 cat 8 ethernet cable which will not fit my phone socket nor my router...so if i buy two adaptors will this cable then work ?
@@DrBroncanuus yes but a new cable is probably cheaper than adapters
And then there's me, with one twisted pair-phone cable traveling along the electric line and coaxial-tv line 😭
Yeah sorry. Old analog phones only need two wires. Look into using Ethernet over powerline adapters. They are amazing.
@@stevenc22 thanks for the reply, but yeah, my situation is pretty dire...
The Vdsl modem (80Mbits with plans to update it to 160Mbits) is on the first floor, where the phone cable comes inside the house(if I tried to connect it anywhere else the signal would be so poor that it wouldn't be different from an Adsl), and my desktop is in the third one, but the first floor is wired to a different circuit breaker, so I wouldn't probably get a good enough speed(also they seem pretty expensive)...
For now I'm stuck with a WiFi range extender, but again despite all the hype on the 5Ghz AC standard it works "better" only by forcing the 2.4Ghz N mode (and by better I mean 50 Mbits instead of 5, but after a while they still drop to 30Mbits...)
Other alternatives may be MOCA or those ridiculous "Ethernet over Vdsl" modulators/repeaters, but they may interfere with other equipments and they are so expensive that I might just drill a hole through the floors and lay down a Cat6 Cable...
Im kinda unlucky as well but only the other bedrooms in the house have 1 pair. The main telephone outlet has 2 (they are for analogue phones though) and every other place at the basement has 2 pairs (probably because we had 2 telephone lines to be able to use both phone and internet at the same time in the dial up era) but the problem is that i cant connect first and second floor networks because 1 of the 2 pairs in the main outlet is active, connected to my ISP.
@@the_danksmith134 sometimes I get an urge to drill a hole through the floors till I reach the basement and simply lay an Ethernet cable, but then I rememberer that all the shops are closed nowadays...
Besides, it's more than 30 centimeters of steel and concrete...
@@Valery0p5 I also want to upgrade my home network such as setting up a very high speed 10Gbit network with future proof wiring that in the future could even run on 100Gbit but I cant go out due to this pandemic. On the plus side though corona virus might actually bring us faster Internet. See all the people stay inside and Internet usage has skyrocketed so much that ISPs in my country are struggling to handle this much traffic and so they may finally upgrade their ancient copper wiring to fiber not all the way to our homes though mostly to the cabinets (FTTC). Such example is that last week one of our ISPs brought 50mbit Vdsl in our area with our current one about to bring it in the next 1 or 2 weeks or something. I might actually have 100mbit soon (even though they advertise 100mbit to work with FTTH but i have a very high chance to get it working, since im literally 30 meters away from one of those cabinets and signal degradation will be low, just by utilising the second pair in the main outlet I was talking about before)
Can you rewire just one specific cable to a room?
Yes. You can rewire just one cable that you then connect to your router to get internet to that one room
@@stevenc22 so after I buy a cat 53 jack and I rewire it to that jack I get ethernet dont need to do anything else right?
@@storm-john6007 that cable must be connected to a switch and router for the internet to come through the cable. If you wire RJ45 jacks onto a cat 3 cable, that cable becomes just like any other network cable and is only as good as the network setup you have.
We only have wall jacks in our house that have 3 twisted pairs. Would I just need to replace the ports with ethernet ports for me to connect to the network? Or would I also have to do something else at the other end for it to work?
You need to change both ends of the cable. The wall jack and the end in your telephone closet.
@@stevenc22 Thank you for the response! What device would I need to have in the telephone closet to plug it in to?
@@jedidiahelago you put your router/ switch in the closet to distribute the network signal.
I can't seem to find the utility box with telephone lines. where do you think normally they are located
Closets! Almost always the closet.
Sometimes the box is built into the wall and there might just be a cover plate over the wall.
Older homes might be on the outside of house.
@@stevenc22mine is on the outside of my home.
Hello, I recently found your video. My home is wired with (UL) CMX OUTDOOR ESSEX 4C22 AWG 108 7 C (UL) CMH. Can you please tell me what type of cable this is and if it will be able to be used for a network. It doesn’t look like the wires are twisted. Thank you
I tried to find this cable but couldn't find a good picture. If you send me a picture I can tell.
@@stevenc22 how do I contact you?
@@tyherrm05 stevencarstens at gmail
At 6:22 , are you saying that when the telephone connection is connected to you home, to switch it from a cat3 to either a cat5e or a cat6? If so, with twitter of this make any of a difference from that point to either you modem or router?
I don't understand the question?
@@stevenc22 my bad, was going on with almost a 48 day.
By 'twitter' I was meaning to write ether switch box. But I found found the answer by rewatching your video after sleeping. Lol.
Hey, idk if you still respond to these but I figured I’d check. I took the wall jack out to expose the cable, and I found that I have two cables running into the jack with 8 wires (4 colors, one of each on each cable). Is this the same as the 8 wire cable you displayed in the video? Thanks for any help
Probably not. The only question that matters is the wires twisted in pairs??? If they are twisted you can convert them.
Stevenc22 yes, each cable has 4, one of each color. The colors are green, red, black, and yellow. The green wires are intertwined, the red are too, etc. (green w/ green, red w/ red, black w/ black, and yellow w/ yellow)
@@jacobholm721 that is really weird. But if the wires are truly twisted in pairs then you can wire them in a network. Send me a picture stevencarstens @ gmail
Stevenc22 Alright, I just sent an email. Thanks for your help 🙏🏼
I'm installing a phone jack to an existing phone line in my house. The house sites are green, orange, blue, ..green and white, blue and white, and orange and white. the new phone jack wires are red, green, yellow and black. Which color goes to which when the colors do not match? This is for internet.
Hey i have a question. My wires dont look like they are in bundles it looks like they are just 4 wires not really twisted or anything. Does this still work for me then?
The twist is important because it eliminates interference over long distances. However another viewer reported success using 4 straight wires over a 40 ft distance. Check the other comments below.
Hi. May I know if the cat 3 wire needs to be copper. I’m currently having cat 3 steel wires.
I have never heard of cat 3 steel. Maybe aluminum but not steel.
@@stevenc22 does it have to be copper only? Or also other metals?
@@kennethchan1986 copper is best. Aluminium might work. Steel won't work.
I tried wiring my phone line which is 2 twisted pairs and unfortunately it barely works. I live in a bungalow and I tried to take internet from my bedroom down to my basement where my media server lives for a faster connection and unfortunately I cannot transfer any files to my pc upstairs. All I can do is see the files on the server but not able to transfer because I keep getting errors. I already have Ethernet over power line and only get 1 MB transfer speed. I even cut off a few feet of the phone line cable just to be able to get my PC downstairs to be able to connect to my router upstairs. $45 bucks poorer and no results.
Make sure there are no phone plugs in-between. Sometimes they pigtail phone jacks
@@stevenc22 I did check for that exact issue and the line is not pig tailed anywhere. It goes straight from the basement to the bedroom. I thought I would just do a voltage check and hooked up a 9 volt battery in my bedroom and checked voltage on both pairs of wires in the basement and I was seeing 9 volts. The cable I dont think is any longer than 15 feet and my Ethernet cable adds another 20 feet to that, so that might be the problem.
@@stevenc22 Actually my wiring is not twisted pairs, its just four small wires inside the sleeve so that could be messing with the signals too.
@@Ray-uc8ij Yup. I have told everyone that you must have twisted pairs
I saw somewhere and compared to my own that I have the ITC-100 cable. It has 4 wires, its not flat but only has 1 white wire, a "sheild" and a ground wire. I just dont know if I would be able to convert this wire to the ethernet
Probably not. You need 4 wires wrapped into two twisted pairs for reliable data transfer.
in my house I each phone jack has wires coming in and going out to the next phone jack, can I do the same with my rj45 connection while only using 2 twisted pairs?
You cannot daisy chain network connections the same way you daisy chain analog phone lines. If you convert 2 pairs to network, you need to terminate the two ends of the network with no daisy chains in the middle.
What i mean is if the cable goes from the closet to jack 1 then on to jack 2. You need to cut the cable at jack one and put RJ45 connections on the cables and then install a switch at jack one and plug in the cable to jack 2 into the switch. Network connections are from point A to Point B. They do not daisy chain up.
I've cat 3 in my walls. Assume that using all the 4 cables in cat3 to put a cat6 keystone jack than using ethernet cable from my modem to the keystone jack which I've converted from cat 3 than can I get a connection from another jack in the wall ?
Yes. So long as the cable in the wall goes direct from point A to Point B. Sometimes telephone cable daisy chains multiple telephone jacks together. That will not work for a network. As long as your cable modem goes in to the wall and that cat 3 goes directly to another jack, the network should come out at the other jack at 100mbps
@@stevenc22 Thanks man, some people say it should be cat5/6 to carry data and I don't want to break the walls for something can be done with cat3. I'll give it a try. If i can manage to do this, I will set up some mesh wifi routers with that jacks and subscribe to your channel lol
@@cuneytbozok good luck. I have a couple additional videos showing how to actually do the wiring.
Great video
Can I convert my landline into a Ethernet internet feed to my router so I can use the wan port instead of my rj11 feed
I have a box where all the rj11s are connected to(the wiring is Cat5e). Do I have to change the end of those rj11s to rj45s as well and change out the box? Or, can I have one end with rj45 where the router plugs into the wall, then the other end is plugged to an rj11 box. Then another Cat5e with rj11 is plugged into that box with a rj45 end on the other end in my game room.... will internet work throughout this?
Technically you can use the box with a rj11 to rj45 adapter cable but becareful. Hard to keep the cables in the right order when you go through boxes and adapters
Stevenc22 okay so just to clarify for my understanding because I am not the best at this... I can leave that box with the rj11 ends alone and just change out the other ends, the RJ45s and it will all still run internet?
@@davidep915 yes if the individual cables stay in order. If yellow is pin 1 at the start of the run, yellow needs to be pin 1 at end of run. Some box flip wires and some telephone boxes only use 2 wires. Triple check the box is using all 4 wires and the order of the cables. But should work if you triple check everything.
Stevenc22 I wish I could attach pictures here lol, but yes all the colored wires looked to be used on the RJ11 ends so I will give this a try. You are awesome thanks for the help
I have 6 wires. Do I have a shot at converting them?
Of course if they are twisted pairs. If you have pairs of wire that are spiral around each then you have a real chance of doing this. You use four wires for the ethernet and you can even use the remaining two wires still for phone lines
@@stevenc22 Old RJ11 wall jack w/ red, white, black, blue, green, yellow that I'm wondering can be converted for ethernet. I'd like to use it as a power-over-ethernet for a USB device. Many thanks for the quick reply.
@@Whyteshooz are the wires twisted in pairs like the thumb nail of my video???
@@Whyteshooz do you just need to power the USB device or do you need the wires to carry data?
@@stevenc22 No, it actually looks just like this except older, images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/7071026e-c5c7-4b65-b70c-3368c06e4020/svn/stnstl-leviton-wall-jack-plates-40226-s-66_1000.jpg
Hey, I have fibre optic broadband in my living connected to a virgin media hub. I connect a few devices directly into the hub and also use it in WiFi mode.
Upstairs there are some phone ports (RJ11 I believe). Can I convert these to be Ethernet ports? Will they be active since my broadband comes in to the virgin hub via a kind of coax cable?
Yes you can covert them. You need to terminate the phone lines into a switch which in turn is connected to the virgin hub. Treat these just like they were network cables and you need to plug them into the virgin hub
Thanks, but what if the extensions are Daisy chained rather than separate runs to each extension ?
Richard Summers good question. It might work but speed will degrade. Packet loss will slow transmission but might still connect.
Thanks Steven. I'll give it a try.
Richard Summers you can test without rewiring the jack by making a small rj11 to rj 45 adapter cable
Rich has long moved on, I expect, but trying to use daisy-chained (shorted!) wires for Ethernet wouldn't work. Instead, if you can't use the old lines to run fresh, full-length Cat6 replacement lines, what you can do/try is replace the daisy-chained "phone" junctions with connections to distinct network switches. That is, disconnect the daisy-chained lines at a given junction and reterminate for Ethernet ... and connect each line into a network switch. You'd need to make sure no additional daisy-chains exist upstream or downstream of the connected switch, repeating the above at each junction to be repurposed ... and leave disconnected any lines not reworked.
I don’t understand where the internet comes from. Do you plug your modem into that switch? And that disperses it through the rest of the house? Maybe I’m dumb and I’m missing something. Someone please explain
You still need a modem and switch. The telephone cable is replacing the normal network cabling but everything else works the same. Modem - router - cable - device
Your Cat3 appears to actually just be modern Cat5 but rated and labeled for telephone use only, your pairs are very twisted in the range of many twists per inch. The Cat3 I have is original 1997 made and the twisted pairs are basically straight maybe half a twist per foot.
Please comment on if this will work with a true (basically not twisted) telephone Cat3
Multiple people in the comments have reported some success with straight telephone cable over shorter distances. The twist is to eliminate interference over long distances.
@@stevenc22 I put connectors on and was able to achieve speeds of up to 10 Mbit/s via the Cat3 1990s original cable
@@titanium2373 interesting. Not great but not bad either.
Ours is idk why but afaicr (recall) its cat 3 but its like for some reason only currently hooked into the rj11 etc for some reason just the center two blue and blue/white stripes ones hooked on the jacks daisy chained at four locations in house
Old telephones only need 2 wires.
I have 10 wires can I leave two unhooked ?
Yes. You can use the other four twisted pairs for a full 1 gig connection
I don't understand how this works I'm sorry, I have a phone cable (rj11 if I'm correct) coming out of the wall and i wanna know how to work it to where i can plug it into my pc and use it as ethernet since my router is downstairs and the wireless connection is bad
Pull the wall plate off the wall and see what kind of cable is behind the wall plate.
@@stevenc22 what wall plate
@@teel2894 The telephone plug on the wall upstairs
@@stevenc22 no it’s a telephone cable
Over a month I am trying to find this:in some POS terminals, they use (FOR SURE) POS RJ10 port for connecting POS with router. So, for ethernet connection or networking. Whatever. In this cable, one side is with RJ45 connector. The other side, is with RJ10 connector. a. What is cable mapping RJ45 -> RJ10 ? b. When using RJ10 not for telephone but for networking, its 1, 2, 3, 4 contacts what goes to TX+ TX- RX+ RX- ? c. A link diagram would be great!! Wish YOU could answer my a. b. c. Thank you for your time!!
Map the wires on the RJ45 side and see if they just using 4 wire networking using pins 123 & 6.
@@stevenc22 Thank you very much for your answer! Yes, I will use 1,2,3,6 on RJ45 side. But how to map on the other side 4P4C that has just 4 pins? Where to connect RJ45 1,2,3,6 on 4P4C 1,2,3,4? Thank you.
@@yiannisserpico2646 I don't know because the rj10 is probably a proprietary plug. But if you have 1 of the old cables map both sides. RJ45 wire 6 to rj10 wire 4 ect... Once you know the mapping on both sides you are good to go.
@@stevenc22 Please, what do you mean by saying "old cables"? On what cables do you refer to saying "old"?
@@yiannisserpico2646 can you get one of the POS cables? If so then you can map both sides.
What can I do if my house doesn't have twisted pairs? Just 4 differert colored wires?
Use Ethernet over powerline adapters. They are awesome
@@stevenc22 I'll look into that! Thanks
Do you have the wiring diagram for 2 pair wire for the keystone jack where the rj45 connector goes in the wall?
Here i mocked up a picture for you imgur.com/GGdCShX
@ STEVENC22 or ANYONE
I need to change my home phone line, the whole line which is underground due to it being faulty and very old. I want to know what to ask the shops for when going to buy a new line? I want to replace the whole cable which is underground and I will also be using cat5 socket thing.
Will the cable be buried or inside of a conduit? If its inside a conduit you can just normal cat 5 or cat 6. For being buried they make outdoor rated cat 5. amzn.to/3fkXP7D
@@stevenc22 it will be buried. So u are saying I can use a whole cat 5 as the cable for my home line? I thought I would need to use a different home telephone cable and then use a cat5 wall socket? So which cable would I need if replacing the whole home phone line which is under my house and in the ground?
@@sendlocation8476 it depends on what kind of cable you already have buried! You can use cat 5 for telephone but you can also just bury a 2 or 4 wire telephone line. Really depends what your old line was.
the diagram in 12:11 shows a pair of orange and green but mine cat3 has a blue pair is the green = the blue here also in the other cable in cat5 is it all cables at the same order like that or is there some they change the colors like the cat3
I got confused actuality
Colors don't matter as long as you are consistent on both sides on the same cable.
@@stevenc22
yeah but I am trying to connect cat3 to cat5 with the regular way just ligature it then wrap it using electrical tape but the colors are my problem
my cat3 has two pairs blue and orange
and my cat5 has 4 pairs blue, orange, green and that coppery color
I don't know what connects to what
Easy. Cat 3 uses pins 123 and 6. Match up the colors on the cat 5 wiring on pins 123 and 6. Or even easier, terminate the cat 3 and the cat 5 and use a rj45 coupler to join the 2 wires
@@stevenc22
so Is it?
cat3 ------ cat5
blue/white to orange/white
blue to orange
orange/white to green/white
orange to green
and I really appreciate your help
@@yjj420 looks correct
Is the cat 3 cable suitable for a 25mbps or a 30mbps connection?
Yes. It can handle 100mbps
What do I do with my router, how do I route my WiFi through this?
Bander31 you can use this to extend your WiFi. You can plug a WiFi extender on the end of this to expand the wifi. But really this can be used to bypass unreliable wifi with a cable connection.
Bander31 z
You need to run a LAN cable out of one of the LAN sockets on your router to where your phone lines meet (like the box shown at the beginning of the video) and plug it into a RJ45 switch (you can get a 5-way for about $10. Now put RJ45 jacks with the correct wiring onto 4 of the cables in your box, and you will have 4 live sockets in your home where you can plug in an RJ45 cable to run a computer or other internet device. Oh, and you will probably have to rewire the RJ12 sockets in your rooms to RJ45 with 4 wires rather than 2. This is very doable, however if it seems like too much work, you could also use a TP-Link device to transmit the internet signal over your power lines within the home. I got a pair (transmitter, receiver) of this device for about $20, extra receivers cost more) to avoid using a 75-foot cable along the floor from my router to my desk at the front of the house and it works beautifully. The download and upload speeds are the same is with the 75-ft LAN cable. With either option, you can add an additional wifi router at the other end of the house to reinforce your wi-fi signals, so that phone and tablet wifi users (aka children) can connect and get a good signal, or improve the signal on your driveway or for T-Mobile wifi calling.
alright but how do you connect the ethernet to the other side of it my phone company brings only 2 copper wires for the line which cables do i connect sorry i dont want to pay them extra 120euro so they can fix it but i use cat5e
Sorry very confused by your question? You need at least 4 wire twisted pair telephone line in the walls to convert to Ethernet.
@@stevenc22 Sorry let me make it clear my internet provider brought to my house back in the 90s 2 wires for phone they are made of copper how to i connect them to ethernet line?
@@xrhst0s2114 You cannot. Ethernet requires 4 wires minimum. 2 wires is the very very old kind of phone line.
I have two pairs.. But they're not the same colours as the one in the picture..
They're black, red, green and blue :/
Are they twisted???? If they are not twisted pairs that signal will not carry very well through walls. Based on those colors you probably have non twisted regular telephone cable which won't work very well
@@stevenc22
I dont think they're twisted, no.. :(
Thanks for the reply.
i have 8 wire telephone wire and 4 of the wires are striped/dotted could i convert this to Ethernet and get over 100 mbps sorry if dumb question ive been trying to figure everything out and im a new to this someone told me that i wont work
If the 4 available wires are twisted pair wires then yes you can convert to 100mbs network
@@stevenc22but will it better than 100 i get 300 on wifi but my ping when i play games is terrible because wifi
@@devilswings5907 your ping will be excellent on a wired connection. Probably better for gaming even on a 100mbs connection
Phone closet? I think my phone utility box is outside my home (Spectrum). A tech told me the coax cable is supplying the ethernet into my modem & then an ethernet cable is routed into my router to receive signal. I would like to convert the phone jack in an upstairs bonus room into an ethernet line (to extend a wired connection). I checked the outlet & it has 4 pairs of wires as shown in the video. Would this be possible?
And is it a problem if i have 200mbit connection from isp and im good with 💯 that cat 3 can supply me with? I mean no problem for the wire?
No problem. It will be plenty fast enough
@@stevenc22 thanks mate! :)
@@stevenc22 link in the description does not work just to know but i founs it on your channel
@@dzoni97a Thanks Dude. Fixed link!
@@stevenc22 hey mate sorry to bother, but i got problem.. i converted my telephone cable to ethernet by changing rj11 to rj45 female socket (i connected as said 1,2,3 and 6th pin) and wired it to pc with 8 wires prebuilt short male-male rj45 as well as for the other side from the router to the rj45 female socket in the wall...pc does not even recognize the connection. Could it be cause of the 8 pin wire that was used from rj45 female (wall socket) to pc and from router to the other side of rj45 female or i did something else wrong?
sorry again for bothering you :D
What if I just go from rj45 out of a router into rj11 in the wall, and then the opposite elsewhere in the house, 11 to 45 and then into a device?
Yes technically possible
So I just needed a point to point connection within the house, so I made adapters/cables that connect the RJ-45(male) to the wall jack via male RJ-11 into the 4 wire telephone jack then in another room a RJ-11 goes to the RJ-45. The cable tester showed wires 1,2,3, and 6 as good. so when I plug in the wire into the router/switch and the other end in another room the laptop doesn't detect the connection, is there any adapter settings that need to be changed for this to work? (I'll keep searching for a solution, if I find one I'll delete the comment)
Did you set static IP address on both computers? A point to point connection without a router will only work if you assign both devices an IP address manually
Also a point to point connection needs a cross over cable not a regular cable. Put a switch on the end of one of the connections and then plug the device into the switch
Stevenc22 oh ok then I'll go and swap the green and orange pairs at one of the ends then, right?
Also, at one end is the Router and the other is my laptop, that I am using to ensure that the connection will hold. Routers is set to assign each MAC address with a static IP until list is full then it will reassign IPs from devices that have not connected within a month.
Grif correct. If you have a router you will not need to assign addresses.
That’s pretty twisted
Can I contact you?
Stevencarstens at gmail
White thing is known as a jack, not a plug.
Same damn thing. This is not a english video, is it?
You tell me. Not the same. Is a penis the same as a vagina?
@@csgmail4316 It's not, actually. The video uses an RJ45 *plug* at the central junction and a modular RJ45 keystone *jack* at the faceplates. Terminology matters, especially when looking to order parts.
What if the wires not twisted? Is it ok?
It will work only over very short distance. The twist is important for long wires. The twist stops magnetic interference.
Mine's 3 twisted pair, how should I wire to RJ45?
Just wire 2 twisted pairs for a 100mb connection. Ignore the third pair.
@@stevenc22 last pair will be reserved for future failsafe spare cable
I have 6 wire what does that mean?
That's good. 2 for phone and 4 for network.
@@stevenc22 thanks for the quick response for one of the ports in my house an I convert it from phone to coaxial using the same phone cable ?
@@stevenc22 also I just opened it and I am wondering why my wires aren’t twisted the white ones just have little dots on them to mark which one is for what colour
If it's not twisted you may have network interference and it might not work. The twist is pretty important. Some people have reported success with non twisted wire but twisted is better.
what if I have a 3 pair wire?
Great. Use 2 pair for Ethernet and one pair for phone line
@@stevenc22 very cool, thanks!
I have a old phone wires with 4 colors red white green black .....
Unfortunately that is not twisted pair and likely won't work
Skip to 12.09 and save 12 minutes of your life. 😴
Does not work if you want high speed 10/1000 (Gigabit)
Lol what? Obviously. Plus you don't call a gig connection 10/1000.
Does 1000 gigabit even exist? This man is a century ahead of us
That's
I only have 3 pairs
Great. Use 2 pairs for internet and one pair for telephone
@@stevenc22 thank you for replying. Do you think i should directly connect my computer to the data cable coming from outside or connect it to the router?
@@InputBen you need a modem / router to convert the incoming signal. You cannot just hook your computer directly to the incoming signal. Send the incoming signal through the modem/ router then on to your computer
@@stevenc22 okay thanks a lot for the help
@@InputBen not a problem
Good video. But, He should have speed it up by 25% when editing because painfully slow and repeating same things over and over.
Tha'ts what the youtube speed up button is for it's better for me like this so you use the button and shut up.
What if the wires have 3 twisted pairs?
Thats fine. You will still be limited to 100mbs using 4 wires. You need 8 full wires to exceed 100mbs.
@@stevenc22 whats the diagram for the 3 twisted pair wiring?
@@PPatel-nj9df the same diagram as two twisted pairs! Just don't use one of the twisted pairs.
Then you can do a bit of non-standard wiring and wire the lines for Fast Ethernet (2 pairs), and keep a pair employed for a single telephone line.
Why is my life never easy I open my shit up and it has fucking 6 wires not 4 or 8 ...6
Six is fine. You can use 4 for Ethernet and two for phone line.
Stevenc22 thank you for responding and which color four should I use there is green,black,red,white, yellow and blue.
Stevenc22 There’s one more thing I like to ask you my wires inside have like this like bee butt thing at the end in the wires what do I do with those just cut them out and use the wires,and also whatever you do to one side of the wire u have to do to another?
@@Jwxzy are they twisted in pairs? If they are not twisted in pairs, then the Ethernet will not work. The twist stops interference over long distances. If they are twisted pairs, then you can pick any two pairs of twisted wires as long as you use the same colors in the same position on both sides of the wires. Make sense?
@@Jwxzy yes cut off any junk on both ends of the wire and just have a RJ45 on both ends just like if it were normal Ethernet cable.
can i just buy the wire from somewhere lol
Yes but what if the wire is already in your walls!
I got cat6 ethernet in my room lmao
What is its not twisted but 8 strands?
Trebor Skeem the signal will not travel very far. The twist is to stop interference between signals. Untwisted won't probably work but a few feet
@@stevenc22 like 10 ft?
@@abhijithnair3078 that's pretty long. 1-2 get you will probably start to get interference
@@stevenc22 thanks for the reply.
I'll try it out anyways and then run diagnostics. If I get too much packet loss I'll stick to wifi. Cheers
@@abhijithnair3078 let me know. I'm interested to know what the limit is!
Will this work if the phone lines are split to feed into different rooms in the house? For example, I only have two Cat 3 cables going from my garage and feeding into the rooms.
Not really. You need to intercept the cable before it splits. Most likely you can find which room the cable goes to first and intercept it there and turn it into a network jack.
I'm installing a phone jack to an existing phone line in my house. The house sites are green, orange, blue, ..green and white, blue and white, and orange and white. the new phone jack wires are red, green, yellow and black. Which color goes to which when the colors do not match? This is for internet.
Regina Hinant are they twisted pair cables? If so just make your own color code and use the same code on both sides of the line. The colors don't matter, just the order of the wires on both sides of the line