Good point by TDKP regarding the amount of damages awarded compared to LHL case. My question is if someone like Soh Rui Yong insists on speaking out against someone because he feels is right. Then that is his perogative. But why should he seek crowdfunding to pay for damages that he incurred due to his own insistence? That I don't agree. There are much better causes to support than a rather "confident" runner that likes to speak his mind irregardless of consequences. You choose to fight it out in court, then you should pay the damages of your actions yourself
Agree with you mostly, but crowdfunding is also something he chose to do and there is no obligation from the public or anyone to help him. Hence, for whoever agrees with his stance, they are free to support him that way, I don't see any problem with that. It's true he should pay for the damages IF he is indeed guilty eventually (should the appeal fail), but he can still choose to raise funds in any way he deems fit uh.
@@skiller94 LOL it is just hypocritical, all this saga is based on ethics of Ashley's slowing down, yet he didn't do the ethical thing to use his own money?
Caught Vanessa running with 2 other guys 2 weeks ago. OMG she is fast!! Me the 49 yo almost died, can’t even keep up 15 secs! And they were so relaxed running at that pace and chatting!!!! Can die or not… hope to see them running for Singapore! Thanks for being an inspiration Rui Yong and Vanessa! I know I can’t make the time but it is sure fun to try to run my fastest 2.4!
Rui Yong's point on tall poppy syndrome in sg is so on point! time and time again i've seen far too many netizens disparage public figures for nothing at all, just because they are more talented/richer/doing better in life. Loved this ep, both the guests were fantastic!
Tall poppy syndrome? You obviously don't know the meaning of it. Isn't the pot calling the kettle black - Soh is the one suffering from tall poppy syndrome, not the netizens. No body likes a braggard and Soh is one for sure. He is not world class so why all the arrogance ? Give me a break. Have some humility man...
@@yekai7599 mine was around 930 too and it was weird I can do it ten flat without a sweat but 30 seconds is a huge difference for me it's like the soul left the body
This is why you need to keep humble.. because if there is an ego/arrogance, people wouldn't be kind to you if you fall. However if you ate meek and humble, people will favor you
Been watching a few podcast they were great! Just a thought, I don’t think you guys should simply side with rui Yong and speak badly about Ashley Liew just because rui Yong is your guest. Clearly, the judges have their qualifications and have their fair share of research before charging him for defamation. While he is your guest, I feel it’s best it keep a balanced side. Because you guys do not know what Ashley Liew is going through or has been through. Then perhaps if Ashley was your guest, would your arguments be different then?
Must be because she doesn't side with Soh RY. Find this podcast to be too onesided. RY achievements aren't to be downplayed but his actions on the other hand can be questionable.
Went to read on the case and I will say it is such a long battle over Pride, along with Justice. Putting myself in both their shoes I would say both have some right and some wrong. Unfortunately, taking it to court is just a way to drag the issue and see who would win legally, treating like a medal to perhaps shut the other up for good. Which would just cause more trauma to both. The only way I see how this can turn out good is if they both just settle out of court , if they have the maturity, wisdom, calmness to do so together. On the side note I feel pocketing in the defamation 180K charge over this case doesn’t seem right. Maybe he can consider donating it out since it is after all crowded funded. This afterall for the act of fair play.
Hi guys, anyone can ask for an update on the 100k he raised for his lawsuit..just looking for some transparency here, I actually commented on his IG but I believed he has blocked me.
Yesss finally someone who can put all those keyboard warriors back in their place. Tbh 90% of the people I know is damn proud of being in commando. Post army book out like to talk about how big shot they are. Sending stories about how they’ll occupy this table which no other mates would dare to use even when they are not around. Lol. When you put men tgt all the egoistic nonsense starts coming out
Funny but these keyboard warriors aren't commandos. Commando doesn't care about run speed, they are about stamina and others. Infact they spend more time on duty and training than running.
Yea there are some truth to their views but the fact remains that nobody in their right frame of mind would want to be handicap in anyway shape or form even if the pay out for paralympians is double that of a normal Olympian.
great idea to bring in RY & vanessa as guest to see the other side of them as well. but probably give them more time to speak and not keep cutting into them when they’re speaking halfway. but really interesting vid, thankyou for the hardwork
Hi guys, anyone can ask for an update on the 100k he raised for his lawsuit..just looking for some transparency here, I actually commented on his IG but I believed he has blocked me.
My first time watching this podcast and I rly enjoyed it. Laughed so much when Dan and John described their marathon experiences hahahahaha but anyway watching this made me like Rui Yong even more. He's so well-spoken and forthright and rational and smart and mature, and I don't see why people would consider him arrogant when he has every reason to be proud of his achievements and defend himself in the face of haters who try to play down his successes when he's just broken a national record. Stay strong Rui Yong -- you have a legion of supporters behind you 💪🏽
To Soh & Vanessa, I hope you do ever see this comment and it is just a personal 5cent advice. I have to acknowledge the accomplishment both of you had achieved through all the hard work over the years and I am proud of that. It is a known fact that with such great achievement, you will be on a public. And with enough experience, I believe everyone knows that once you are a public figure, you get both positive and negative comments. It might be wiser to take it as a pinch of salt in my personal opinion rather than just getting into a situation with "keyboard warriors" or "haters" who are NATO (no action talk only). & tbh, I was taken aback by the way Soh has talked about it. I understand that you have seriously accomplished something that one person can be proud of but being proud and arrogant is a thin invisible line. And the way it sounded from you and the way you presented it was more on arrogant than other. As I have said earlier, you are a public figure and it will be more ideal to keep a positive image. Overall, congrats to both of you and I am sincerely proud of it. Cheers
Is Soh was 1st, he wouldn't have had any problems with Ashley doing wtv the f he was doing. That's the reality. Buddy is just mad his teammate got the spotlight.
Yes, I can see why they disagree with regards to paying paralympians the same amount of cash for getting Gold. BUT the fact remains that NOBODY in their right frame of mind would want to be handicap in anyway shape or form even if the pay out for paralympians is tripled that of a normal Olympian.
Haha imagine every keyboard warrior commenting about matching olympian and paralympian rewards and the govt dulan, and they just reduce olympians reward to match paralympians' HAHA toh
there's no need to be sarcastic against army personnel... please mean what you say when you are on a social media community service... you scoffed at others carelessly.
When I first heard of the news, I thought who gives a fuck. But now seeing this guy’s personality and the challenge he’s issuing out to these keyboard warriors, now that’s a National Hero! Fk them up boiiii let’s goooo
I agree that you should recognise athlete's ability, but clothing is also part of everyday life and culture and cannot be ignored. Who decides what is "professional attire"? Why not wear a bikini to run or even run naked since Singapore is "hot"? Where do we draw the line?
That guy kind of has a distasteful personality. Tall poppy syndrome? Waiting for him to fail? Dude even used an example of a CEO lol. Who are you dude? This is the first time I've seen you. You may have forgotten but you're a big shot within running, but that status does not extend out of the running circle.
He’s just giving an example that people have a tendency to celebrate at other’s failures. And yes, he’s a big shot in the running circle but running is such an accessible sport so I guess most people would have heard of him especially if you’re into sports!
I wish y'all had started up TDKP years earlier. Then I would have had more awareness about so many perspectives relating to SG's current affairs
Honestly as someone who runs for fun, I am super impressed by their ability and work ethic.
Good point by TDKP regarding the amount of damages awarded compared to LHL case. My question is if someone like Soh Rui Yong insists on speaking out against someone because he feels is right. Then that is his perogative. But why should he seek crowdfunding to pay for damages that he incurred due to his own insistence? That I don't agree. There are much better causes to support than a rather "confident" runner that likes to speak his mind irregardless of consequences. You choose to fight it out in court, then you should pay the damages of your actions yourself
Agree with you mostly, but crowdfunding is also something he chose to do and there is no obligation from the public or anyone to help him. Hence, for whoever agrees with his stance, they are free to support him that way, I don't see any problem with that. It's true he should pay for the damages IF he is indeed guilty eventually (should the appeal fail), but he can still choose to raise funds in any way he deems fit uh.
@@skiller94 LOL it is just hypocritical, all this saga is based on ethics of Ashley's slowing down, yet he didn't do the ethical thing to use his own money?
Caught Vanessa running with 2 other guys 2 weeks ago. OMG she is fast!! Me the 49 yo almost died, can’t even keep up 15 secs! And they were so relaxed running at that pace and chatting!!!! Can die or not… hope to see them running for Singapore! Thanks for being an inspiration Rui Yong and Vanessa! I know I can’t make the time but it is sure fun to try to run my fastest 2.4!
Rui Yong's point on tall poppy syndrome in sg is so on point! time and time again i've seen far too many netizens disparage public figures for nothing at all, just because they are more talented/richer/doing better in life. Loved this ep, both the guests were fantastic!
Tall poppy syndrome? You obviously don't know the meaning of it. Isn't the pot calling the kettle black - Soh is the one suffering from tall poppy syndrome, not the netizens.
No body likes a braggard and Soh is one for sure.
He is not world class so why all the arrogance ? Give me a break. Have some humility man...
Personally 7 mins for 2.4km is insane! 8 to 9 mins is just untouchable for me.
Hope more records will be broken!
my fastest time ever was 9 min 22 s and I was literally sleeping for the rest of the day.
@@someshsalunke2731 YA FK, I RAN 9MINS 8 SECOND AND VOMMITTED IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT
@@someshsalunke2731 FAST! My best is 11min flat
Da hell my sec two friend ran barely 9 minutes for 2.4.
@@yekai7599 mine was around 930 too and it was weird I can do it ten flat without a sweat but 30 seconds is a huge difference for me it's like the soul left the body
"Pocari got sweat anot?" HAHAHA
This is why you need to keep humble.. because if there is an ego/arrogance, people wouldn't be kind to you if you fall.
However if you ate meek and humble, people will favor you
woww making big moves getting soh rui yong on. this is why u guys are the best podcast in sg rn
get controversial ppl on so easy lame
jp still drinking out of the beakerrrrrrr ✌️
I wont let you down!
Beaker is back..
@@TheDailyKetchupPodcast any chance you will bring Ashley Liew on to the podcast?
Met Soh Rui Yong while he was training here in America super awesome humble human being!
Another great video with real honest answers! Can't wait for the next video to be up!!
Been watching a few podcast they were great!
Just a thought, I don’t think you guys should simply side with rui Yong and speak badly about Ashley Liew just because rui Yong is your guest. Clearly, the judges have their qualifications and have their fair share of research before charging him for defamation.
While he is your guest, I feel it’s best it keep a balanced side.
Because you guys do not know what Ashley Liew is going through or has been through. Then perhaps if Ashley was your guest, would your arguments be different then?
Also kinda ironic that people are putting down his achievements rn, when he also put out statements against Ashley…
but honestly the fine is quite excessive for someone not even well known
That could make for another good podcast episode. Invite Ashley Liew on, boys!
Not sure whether I missed it in the podcast, which part did they speak negatively about Ashley? (Tbh I never even heard of the name in the podcast)
@@EunhyukieLoveELF you clearly underestimate the amount of money Ashley had to spend on lawyers because of this clown
Good job ruiyong and vanessa proud of yall
Alamak… now one fella is missing… where’s Denise…
Must be because she doesn't side with Soh RY. Find this podcast to be too onesided. RY achievements aren't to be downplayed but his actions on the other hand can be questionable.
I run 2.4km until out of view from my officers and I just hop into the Ambulance haha
Went to read on the case and I will say it is such a long battle over Pride, along with Justice. Putting myself in both their shoes I would say both have some right and some wrong. Unfortunately, taking it to court is just a way to drag the issue and see who would win legally, treating like a medal to perhaps shut the other up for good. Which would just cause more trauma to both. The only way I see how this can turn out good is if they both just settle out of court , if they have the maturity, wisdom, calmness to do so together. On the side note I feel pocketing in the defamation 180K charge over this case doesn’t seem right. Maybe he can consider donating it out since it is after all crowded funded. This afterall for the act of fair play.
Both parties must be nfluenced by their beloved leader Lee Kuan Yew and son. Every little issue, must have lawsuit. 😁
Too much money.
Hi guys, anyone can ask for an update on the 100k he raised for his lawsuit..just looking for some transparency here, I actually commented on his IG but I believed he has blocked me.
but isnt he ok to haolian since he is literally the fastest like... is he suppose to say la no la i not fast
haha he is just speaking facts
Yesss finally someone who can put all those keyboard warriors back in their place. Tbh 90% of the people I know is damn proud of being in commando. Post army book out like to talk about how big shot they are. Sending stories about how they’ll occupy this table which no other mates would dare to use even when they are not around. Lol. When you put men tgt all the egoistic nonsense starts coming out
Funny but these keyboard warriors aren't commandos. Commando doesn't care about run speed, they are about stamina and others. Infact they spend more time on duty and training than running.
@@Fujiwara.Takumi1 exactly
I like everyone always knows "someone" yet is never that "someone" and never knows exactly who that "someone" is. Power of gossip and exaggeration.
Good perspectives. I like the alternative view on Olympics vs Paraolympics payout.
Yea there are some truth to their views but the fact remains that nobody in their right frame of mind would want to be handicap in anyway shape or form even if the pay out for paralympians is double that of a normal Olympian.
This video really change my perspective on Soh Rui Yong. He definitely has my support now
I all along supports him, you can’t run so fast without all the hard trainings.
why is Jonathan Paul drinking from a measuring beaker again??!
For chemistry
Can we get eliud kipchoge to run 2.4 km? That would be the real deal.
Kipchoge's fastest timing is 6mins and 50 secs
And he continued to run at that pace for an entire marathon non stop
he got ask y'all fund for his debt not HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
great idea to bring in RY & vanessa as guest to see the other side of them as well. but probably give them more time to speak and not keep cutting into them when they’re speaking halfway. but really interesting vid, thankyou for the hardwork
Hi guys, anyone can ask for an update on the 100k he raised for his lawsuit..just looking for some transparency here, I actually commented on his IG but I believed he has blocked me.
Would be interesting if you invited a couple of Paralympians to share their thoughts on equal pay.
My first time watching this podcast and I rly enjoyed it. Laughed so much when Dan and John described their marathon experiences hahahahaha but anyway watching this made me like Rui Yong even more. He's so well-spoken and forthright and rational and smart and mature, and I don't see why people would consider him arrogant when he has every reason to be proud of his achievements and defend himself in the face of haters who try to play down his successes when he's just broken a national record. Stay strong Rui Yong -- you have a legion of supporters behind you 💪🏽
To Soh & Vanessa, I hope you do ever see this comment and it is just a personal 5cent advice.
I have to acknowledge the accomplishment both of you had achieved through all the hard work over the years and I am proud of that. It is a known fact that with such great achievement, you will be on a public. And with enough experience, I believe everyone knows that once you are a public figure, you get both positive and negative comments. It might be wiser to take it as a pinch of salt in my personal opinion rather than just getting into a situation with "keyboard warriors" or "haters" who are NATO (no action talk only).
& tbh, I was taken aback by the way Soh has talked about it. I understand that you have seriously accomplished something that one person can be proud of but being proud and arrogant is a thin invisible line. And the way it sounded from you and the way you presented it was more on arrogant than other. As I have said earlier, you are a public figure and it will be more ideal to keep a positive image.
Overall, congrats to both of you and I am sincerely proud of it. Cheers
Is Soh was 1st, he wouldn't have had any problems with Ashley doing wtv the f he was doing. That's the reality. Buddy is just mad his teammate got the spotlight.
Great video guys! 💯
Definitely agree on the point on tall poppy syndrome too
Another ignoramus on what tall poppy syndrome is : Soh is the one that is suffering from TPS, not the netizens.
What a show off Soh is.....
Loving the honesty on the topic. Everyone should be respected for their opinions, its another view point or outlook on a particular matter.
Where did Denise go?
I’ve seen pics of someone else’s time who was better during the pocari event but it wasn’t broadcasted lol
So proud. Come in 3rd. Haven't won any Olympic medal. Talk big he is gold medalist.
but can he pay the 180k for defamation
Yes, I can see why they disagree with regards to paying paralympians the same amount of cash for getting Gold.
BUT the fact remains that NOBODY in their right frame of mind would want to be handicap in anyway shape or form even if the pay out for paralympians is tripled that of a normal Olympian.
Haha imagine every keyboard warrior commenting about matching olympian and paralympian rewards and the govt dulan, and they just reduce olympians reward to match paralympians' HAHA toh
Here i am... struggling to even get passing time for 2.4 lolz
Amazing content and discussions as usual! Algo comment!
never ask him about his 180k crowdfunding to pay off his legal fees.
Hosts are brilliant. Chemistry makes for great entertainment.
Hi rui yong, just ignore those keyboard warriors lah, they are just toxic, really, just IGNORE
Soh Rui Yong's intense staring me down in the camera unsettles me
Sorry! Will try to smile more. 😅
Why is he complaining. He's 30. He should know by now there will forever be naysayers EVEN if he can run 2.4 faster than the speed of light.
Great Topic Again ! Good Job
thank you
i wonder if the organisers for future marathons are going to learn to clearly mark out the paths
More of Vanessa please thank you very much
Does Vanessa runs in Woodlands, I thought I saw her a couple of times.
Vanessa so chio
love rui yong’s appearance!
anybody noticed john using the beaker as a cup?
i enjoyed this podcast!
How do I become a Athlete in Singapore
High 5, very naise
ayyyyeee TKGS represent!!
ooo get 3rd ah?
Your porcari got sweat or not? Nice....
Vanessa so quiet and cute lol
Vanessa is so pretty
Running needs lots of training and conditioning.
why the dislikes?
Vanessa so fine.
there's no need to be sarcastic against army personnel... please mean what you say when you are on a social media community service... you scoffed at others carelessly.
Pocari got sweat or not? LOL
vanessa pretty sia and im a girl damn
When I first heard of the news, I thought who gives a fuck. But now seeing this guy’s personality and the challenge he’s issuing out to these keyboard warriors, now that’s a National Hero! Fk them up boiiii let’s goooo
Can Soh run faster and win his case faster lol under 7 min
Mo Farah
Legit question: Why you bleep some curse words, but not for others haha. Idm either way but I DON'T LIKE INCONSISTENCIES!!!!!!
Because we cock up. SORRY!
@@TheDailyKetchupPodcast you see how observant I am? If you need a UX researcher/ Designer, give me a holla :)
army is far from an athlete.
😂😂😂
I agree that you should recognise athlete's ability, but clothing is also part of everyday life and culture and cannot be ignored. Who decides what is "professional attire"? Why not wear a bikini to run or even run naked since Singapore is "hot"? Where do we draw the line?
To the host going on and on about his "marathon" experience at 14:00, NO ONE CARES.
A lot of Kenyan runners can run 2.4 km under 7 minutes.
But the question is , can you?
But they not commandos
@@divinegaming643 I can swim 2,4 km faster than him…lol
Prove it!
That guy kind of has a distasteful personality. Tall poppy syndrome? Waiting for him to fail? Dude even used an example of a CEO lol. Who are you dude? This is the first time I've seen you. You may have forgotten but you're a big shot within running, but that status does not extend out of the running circle.
He’s just giving an example that people have a tendency to celebrate at other’s failures. And yes, he’s a big shot in the running circle but running is such an accessible sport so I guess most people would have heard of him especially if you’re into sports!