@@georgelamie7001 /. Thought you should know. I’m spending my Friday night here in NJ watching my new favorite drummer SENRI KAWAGUCHI at the age of 1️⃣2️⃣, play with todays mentioned group FRAGILE on you tube 3-2009. On you tube. /. Tremendous 👍💯
Really enjoying this show Pete. Has opened my ears to a bunch of music/artist I’m not familiar with. Always a joy to watch George and Eric on any program. George makes me look at music a whole different way. Thanks for all you do Pete. Really appreciate your time you out in to SOT. SOT IS THE BEST CHANNEL ON RUclips
New Releases Lydian Nadhaswaram - Chromatic Grammatic Dimeola DeLucia McLaughlin - Saturday Night In San Francisco Kick the Cat - Live at Martyrs' Vismala Neander - Digital Shaman 4square Gambale Hamm Smith - The Light Beyond Hellborg Lane Sipe - Personae John McLaughlin Trio - Live at Royal Festival Hall Ohm - s/t George's Pick Fragile - 5 (this can be heard here on YT) August David Hines - Nebula September
Fantastic show guys! Been catching up with the videos I missed. I actually haven't heard the gambale album and the McLaughlin album and looks like I should definitely check them out. As for the other two albums, both are brilliant for different reasons. I am a huge Megadeth fan (arguably my favorite metal band) and had heard the ohm album first around 12 years ago and was completely in love with it. The album also had some of poland's best solos and some lovely melodies. The bass work really shines through and compliments the guitar really well. Love song is arguably my favorite solo by him. I also found it insane that he cannot really bend his index finger? And basically just plays with two fingers. His vibrato is instantly recognisable. However, personae edges it imo. I heard about this album through the channel and once I heard it the first time, I just couldn't stop. Sipe and hellborg have slowly crept into my favourite fusion rhythm section list. Lane is possibly the fastest guitar player I have ever heard but he is also extremely clean at the same time. One can easily identify the individual notes. Hellborg slapping the bass is just ear candy and the different ways he finds to slap the bass is astounding. Brilliant stuff. I also agree with the guest that McLaughlin doesn't have a great guitar tone for the electric guitar. I grew up listening to mahavishnu orchestra and Shakti. Though I love his compositions in the former and his rhythm guitar playing, his solos don't do much for me also because of the guitar tone. I definitely prefer him play the acoustic more. So I should definitely check that album out.
My (Mike Jacobs') picks: 1. John McLaughlin Trio - Live at the Royal Festival Hall 2. Ohm - S/T 3. Hellborg/Lane/Sipe - Personae 4. Gambale/Hamm/Smith - The Light Beyond PS - Shameless plug but those interested in my articles for All About Jazz, click below: www.allaboutjazz.com/tag-mike-jacobs
I haven't heard any of these releases so I have some listening to do!! Very informative episode and I gotta say, you guys are are taking me on a deep enjoyable path of GREAT music. There is so much amazing Fusion to check out!! Thanks guys.
@@ericporter344 yeah I told George before that I heard Al Di Meola and Chick Corea Elektric Band at a very young age and I remember liking it. But I became so into Hard Rock and Metal I just didn't dig any deeper. Now I kinda regret not seeking out this stuff a lot earlier in my musical life experience.
I always look forward to these shows as it's fun to hear everyone's thoughts on albums that are either very well known or not so well known and with these picks, you can't go wrong with any of them as they're all strong in their own right and they sound fantastic. 1. John McLaughlin trio 2. Gambale Hamm Smith 3. Hellborg Lane Sipe 4. OHM Thanks for another brilliant show and looking forward to the next one from you guys. Keep up the good work
The scary thing about Lane was that he was basically at that level of technical virtuosity as a prodigy by his mid/late-teens. He just had "it". At least that's what I've read. Lesser known about him are his keyboard chops. Check out his vid "Variations For Piano" on YT, mind-blowing keyboard chops. I believe the piano was actually his favorite (and first) instrument, not guitar. Someone maybe similar is Tony MacAlpine who's also a fine keyboard player but as much as I love his music, not at Lane's level on either instrument IMO
Two of my favourite albums there John mclaughlin trio and Jonas hellborg trio. Funnily enough i recently picked up a few bootlegs of Mclaughlins trio live but with Jeff Berlin and Jonas Hellborg on bass and the musicianship is off the scale but the Festival hall cd is a special recording and very hard to track down these days. Looking forward to the episode 👍🏻
Excellent show as always. Even if I could not be yesterday for the release, today I had the time to sit back and enjoy. Great idea of Fusion Trios, George, (considering how much I liked Pete's July show). I had GHS and McLaughlin Trio in my list for that monthly show, but I did not consider the other two bands. So... here it goes... after having watched the 4FF episode, I want to do the exercise of ranking these albums... 4th: The Light Beyond. "Yang" and "First Look" are fantastic. Also liked Smith's drum solo and the song after it. 3rd: Live at Royal Festival. Florianapolis, Pasha's Love, and Blues for L W do have some great moments. 2nd: Ohm S/T. Very memorable album that I dug quite a bit. Came to believe, Iguana, Bastille Day and Suicide King were my faves. 1st Personae is one hell of an album. Killer opening song and final one. So many great guitar, bass and drum solos in between. There wasn't a particular moment that lost steam, imo. Once again thanks to Pete, George, Eric and Mike for their insight into 4 iconic fusion trios. See you on the next episode...
Thanks guys. I'm sure it's frustrating watching someone's cat video get millions of views compared to the work you are putting in here. It's a niche market and we are niche-ish people. Thanks from all of us!
Another great show George and Fusion Crew. I need to go check out the OHM and the Gambale. I definitely prefer the Lane over the McLaughlin album, as the acoustic stuff didn't hold my attention very well. The Fragile - 5 album just smokes, and it's so heavy! I did add it to my Discogs wantlist, but will probably end up with mp3s, $$$.
@@ericporter344 Their entire s/t album ('96) is up on YT & also their album Phantom from 2006, Fragile 5 from 2000 & Handle With Care (1997), for anyone who wants to hear what they sound like. I love the guitars but the bass is just nuts. The Koichi Yabori solo stuff I've heard (not much) seemed more laid back & jazzy, less fusion. Like maybe more of a Metheny-type approach
@@wolf1977 The Yabori solo stuff is split into two factions. The first 3 are not terribly exciting, but Bloomfield and You Were There are jammin' fusion.
@@wolf1977 absolutely, I've been listening to a show from Santa Monica 1972 with McLaughlin and Santana. A blistering show. The guitars and drums are mesmerizing.
Had to check Ohm out. Tom Poland and crew. Amazing stuff. Keeping with the theme of thrash guitarists crossing over to jazz/fusion, do you guys like the Alex Skolnick Trio? I'm not that familar with them but what I've heard I like.
This is an awesome presentation. Audio quality of few participants is a tad questionable but anyway Mclaughlin Paco and Al and with Kai Eckardt and Trilok Gurtu (finally the percussion virtuoso from India gets some recognition) …man o man (Steven Reid style) the picks are driving me bonkers 😛 🤘👊
@@ericporter344 Thanks Eric. Please extend my heartiest thanks to Pete, George and other Gent. This is driving me bonkers and I have posted it on twitter as well, where few of us correspond with Steven as well.
First off..I dig the show loadz! Secondly I am gonna ask about The Sadistic Mika Band one mo again. I know you guys are busy with hundreds of other bands. I'm not asking for a show on them or anything just putting a great 70's Japanese Fusion/rock band on your radar. they only have 3 albums Black Ship and Hot Menu are fantastic.
Great show as always, just wish Mike’s voice was quite muffled, which was probably because he was leaning back, and not close enough to his Mike. No pun intended 😀
Yeah sorry John. Didn't realize this until I watched the Ep. Will address and be ready next time. Cheers and thanks for the feedback and for watching. - MJ
I'm really happy that this SoT show survived...To me Shawn Lane is the most technically gifted guitarist ever (many will probably name Holdsworth or maybe McLaughlin, Lane's it for me). My ranking: 1. Hellborg-Lane-Sipe/Personae - monster album, to me about equal to Time Is The Enemy & maybe just a bit better than Abstract Logic (as far as Hellborg/Lane collabs go). Many just think of Lane as a balls-to-the wall shredder all the time but not so, he's got some really tasteful numbers too where he shows off his feel for the music. The title track smokes, the tone sometimes reminds me a little of Eric Johnson. Like if Holdsworth & Johnson had a baby who could play about 100x faster. "Heretics" might be my fave track...Lane also guests on at least three solo Hellborg records & on Jens Johansson's Fission, also on Michael Shrieve's very fine Two Doors. At some point I downloaded Hellborg, Lane, Sipe, 08/08/96 Lake Toxaway, NC which I believe is a boot - Wow! I really wish Lane had recorded more! Other Shawn Lane: with Windigo Band/Shawn Lane with Windigo Band & his two incredible solo albums (Powers Of Ten & Tri-Tone Fascination) 2. Ohm/Self-Titled - full album's on YT. I like this band a lot, sometimes Chris Poland's playing is too heavy for me but not in this band. There's really no track I don't like on this one. "Sister Cheryl" is a standout, so are "Bastille Day", "Where's My Hat" & "Search for the Suicide King". I like their Cirrus Of Sound even more & Amino Acid Flashback is about equal to this one (I like it maybe a bit less). I still need to get their “"Live" on KPFK 90.7 FM” record. They've also released two albums under the OHMphrey band name (with a larger lineup), those are great too. Other good stuff by Poland: 4 excellent solo albums, Cosmosquad/Squadrophenia, Damn The Machine/Self-Titled, Polcat/Self-Titled, and some guest appearances on albums by Glen Drover, Jeff Loomis 3. McLaughlin Trio/Live At Festival Hall - love McLaughlin, Trilok Gurtu is also good here (and of course Kai Eckhardt on bass). But TBH I like the Montreux Concerts package a lot more (but then again that's 17 discs), this one's maybe equal to The Boston Record for me. Live In SF is another really good live package. From this one I like "Florianopolis" (again prefer the Montreux live version), "Mother Tongues" (again Montreux has a 21 minute version that's about 2 mins longer), "Blues For L. W." is pretty cool & "Blue In Green" (a little too laid back maybe but still nice), "Pasha's Love" is probably my fave track. Almost seems like sacrilege not to rank just about any McLaughlin album at the top... 4. Gambale/Hamm/Smith - only 4th 'cause I don't have The Light Beyond (I do have their GHS3 which is very good). To me Gambale is an often-overlooked player who pretty much invented sweep picking, a lot of his solo records are really worth owning. Also on School Of The Arts, MVP (with Holdsworth), Mark Varney Project/Centrifugal Funk (great album), Ferenzik/Wild Man Of Borneo, and guested on several Vital Information albums (not to mention his work in Chick's Electric Band). I need to get this one & Show Me What You Can Do My new fusion acquisitions over the past month: John McLaughlin, Paco De Lucia & Al Di Meola/Saturday Night In SF - part 2 of "the greatest live acoustic guitar album ever recorded". Tremendous! Looked like everybody else had it too - it's really a "must own" Valeriy Stepanov Fusion Project/Album No 2 - good band, this is their latest from this year Completed my CAB discog with Live On Sunset & CAB 2. Fantastic band, Tony MacAlpine's a monster (not just in fusion but his shred stuff & instrumental rock records too) T Lavitz/From The West - from '87 didn't have this one yet. Pretty much consistent with his other solo albums, very nice Moose Loose/Transition - from '76, this was discussed on another 4Fusion episode (or in the comments). For McLaughlin/Di Meola fans, this smokes Mysteries Of The Revolution/Self-Titled - from '07, a new band for me. Proggy British trio (maybe a bit more prog than fusion? Not sure), cool tunes, great keys & flutes, really catchy too The Trackers/Vaudeville 8:45 (Feat. Gary Husband & Alf Terje Hana) - from this year & high quality since Husband's involved. Kinda funky too, some Holdsworth vibes but not as angular Ben Todd Band/Live At The Gov - from this year, another funky fusion record (it's on Bandcamp). I like this a lot Arc Trio & The John Daversa Big Band/Arceology: The Music Of Msm Schmidt - also previously discussed, I ended up liking this more than I thought I would. The orchestra stays out of the band's way enough Continuum/End Of Line - from '84, Robert Baglione on guitar. RTF (the version with electric guitars)? Check! They self-released this album so not sure how easy it'd be to find on vinyl/cd. I believe this is their only album. The fast stuff is FAST, right up my alley. Some killer bass too (Robert Allen). Maybe my best fusion find of the month, at least the most surprising Re: George's new album feature, that Lydian Nadhaswaram's Chromatic Grammatic sounds like it might be interesting, there are some YT vids out there including one with some of the guest musicians talking about the new record & featuring some music clips. The kid plays multiple instruments (and well)...Ali Neander's This One Goes To Eleven was good, might check out this latest one...I didn't know that Kick The Cat had a new live album out (the whole show's posted to YT but not sure if it's exactly the same as the album - it's basically Gurgle played live), that one is a definite purchase for me - love this band!
@@georgelamie7001 Thx but I don't buy physical media, I downloaded Continuum from one of my digital/mp3 download sites. I'm sure others could get it right from the source though! Looks like End Of Line sells for 15 bucks on his site...Those two Cronoparadox cd's & Positive Charge (Baglione/Wooten) look interesting...
Love Gambale. Favourites, probably Great Explorers and Passages, but there is great stuff throughout his discography. Both Varney project titles are great.
@@georgelamie7001 Thanks George. Have you heard of Matteo Mancuso? He’s an Italian guitarist that can play many styles of music. He’s got several videos on RUclips worth checking out. Always enjoy your musical selections.
@@wolf1977 Ironically, I think Andy is a guy who is undervaluing him. He somehow didn't have him on his top 10, favoring a couple guys who barely played any fusion in ther career.
@@georgelamie7001 Andy had Gambale at #13 on his list of top 50 fusion guitarists. He does call him "an incredible guitarist" & in the vid even uses Gambale to compare other good-to-great players to, but then also says much of his stuff is "middle of the road" so...The major disagreement for me is Shawn Lane at #26 - way too low! Very happy (and very surprised) that he's got Tommy Bolin at #10, fantastic player & one of my personal faves but most of his stuff isn't fusion so I'd probably have a hard time putting him into my top 10 all time fusion players, to me that list should focus on players who at least primarily play fusion... I'm not sure Gambale'd be in my top 10 either, maybe. I'd have to think about it. I don't think I could rank him higher than Jeff Beck, McLaughlin, Di Meola, Lane, MacAlpine, Morse (if we're counting him under fusion), maybe Govan. I like Brett Garsed a lot, Gary Boyle (especially with Isotope), Robben Ford (another underrated player but maybe more in the blues/rock arena). Greg Howe's done some really good work, John Goodsall, Scofield, Larry Coryell. Even someone like Steve Lukather when he decides to go fusion. Holdsworth, Scott Henderson, Terje Rypdal, Kazumi Watanabe is great - I think those 4 players would probably rank higher for me... Speaking of Andy just saw that in his recent episode The 10 Greatest JAZZ FUSION BASSISTS he's got Percy Jones on the list, one of my faves. No Jeff Berlin though...
@@wolf1977 Having Gambale and Lane(and Stern) below Bolin and Beck is just silly. You can count the amount of fusion albums Beck and Bolin are on with one hand. Even if I thought they were the best albums ever, there's no resume there, particularly next to Gambale. If it's favorites, that's another story. But his list is Greatest, and he specifically says influence, innovation, and technique are his criteria. Bolin in particular, is nowhere near Frank on those
@@georgelamie7001 Can't really argue much with that. Beck's high on any "greatest guitar player" list for me but that's my prejudice for his playing coming through, same with Morse. I think you could make a technique argument for Beck & Morse though, and certainly for influence on others...If I were putting Bolin on the list then why not also Gary Moore (at least with 3 Colosseum II albums), Ronnie Montrose (Tony Williams Live In Tokyo), Andy Summers (at least 3 fusion records), Jimmy Herring (Aquarium Rescue Unit, Jazz Is Dead, with T Lavitz & solo), Chris Poland...Been getting into Akira Wada lately, pretty good
Any of you guy's ever heard of a guitarist called Keith More. He was a one album and done guy who I saw at a guitar show in Birmingham UK in 1996, where he was on a demo stand playing his own music. Had to buy the cd based on how great a player he was and the quality of his music. His backing musicians are fantastic on this album, as are the compositions. It's probably a difficult cd to find(although Ken may have a copy lol). Last I read Keith had gone into studio production work which is a shame because he Is a real fiery edge of your seat player, but can also jazz things up at times. Hopefully this link works where the uploader has got the other tracks of the cd. ruclips.net/video/NUhI75qNAko/видео.html
Apparently a session player, there's a YT video for "Unopened Book" from his (only?) album Guitar Stories (sounds pretty good). They list a link there to buy it but but it says it's in 192k mp3 format which I think will dissuade a lot of people...He also has a Soundcloud page
@@wolf1977 All the tracks are available on a RUclipsr called King Dave's channel. He has them all separately rather than a full album listing. Glad I bought the cd at the time of meeting him.
Not sure why you guys consider some of this music fusion. None of the players on the Ohm album are jazz musicians and the album sounds like an instrumental rock album.
@@ericporter344 As far as I know none of the guys in Ohm are jazz musicians, and I don't hear any jazz influence in the music. So what aspect of their music makes you think there is fusion in it?
@@MrThinkingahead both Poland and bassist Pagliari often discuss their love of fusion, and it’s influence on their writing/playing. I love Polands phrasing, and it goes beyond standard rock/blues based playing to my ears. I hear fusion/rock in their playing and compositions.
@@ericporter344 Hmm. Joe Satriani has been influenced by jazz and fusion musicians and his playing goes beyond standard rock and blues playing, but his music isn't fusion, and he would agree it's not. One of the big reasons is the fact that he's not a jazz musician fusing jazz with other styles. The great fusion musicians that helped to invent fusion were jazz musicians that combined jazz with other styles. Tony Williams, Joe Zawinul, Wayne Shorter, Miles Davis, John McLaughlin, and Chick Corea were all jazz musicians. Being a jazz musician is a very important element to be considered a fusion musician.
Great show again guys!
Thanks Enrique
Looking forward to the 4Fusion Friday show. Always trying to expand my horizons of jazz and prog fusion. Thank you Pete, George and Eric.
Thanks Sal
Absolutely tremendous show. I learned a ton. I look 👀 forward to this show. Keep it up please 👍💯
Thanks, as always GARY
We will Gary, thanks for being a loyal viewer
@@georgelamie7001 /. Thought you should know. I’m spending my Friday night here in NJ watching my new favorite drummer SENRI KAWAGUCHI at the age of 1️⃣2️⃣, play with todays mentioned group FRAGILE on you tube 3-2009. On you tube. /. Tremendous 👍💯
@@garyjoyce2160 I know that vid. She's so tiny on there! Scary that a 12 yr. old can hang with the Fragile guys
@@georgelamie7001 /💯 like I ve stated would have never even known of this phenom, without your guidance. Great 👍 stuff. Thx again 👍💯
Great show! So much information. keep It UP guys!
Thanks Nick!
Great picks for the trios, and as usual, the new releases are going to dent my wallet. Nice job again guys
You have George to thank for that 😂 thanks Jim
Loving the 4Fusion Friday shows..excellent addition
Thank you Steven! Love hearing that!
Really enjoying this show Pete. Has opened my ears to a bunch of music/artist I’m not familiar with. Always a joy to watch George and Eric on any program. George makes me look at music a whole different way. Thanks for all you do Pete. Really appreciate your time you out in to SOT. SOT IS THE BEST CHANNEL ON RUclips
Thanks Samuel, appreciate you watching the show
Another fantastic episode, fellas! I wait all month for these. Cheers!
Thanks Steve!!
New Releases
Lydian Nadhaswaram - Chromatic Grammatic
Dimeola DeLucia McLaughlin - Saturday Night In San Francisco
Kick the Cat - Live at Martyrs'
Vismala Neander - Digital Shaman
4square
Gambale Hamm Smith - The Light Beyond
Hellborg Lane Sipe - Personae
John McLaughlin Trio - Live at Royal Festival Hall
Ohm - s/t
George's Pick
Fragile - 5 (this can be heard here on YT) August
David Hines - Nebula September
Where did you get the Lydian cd?
@@dinkjs No cds available. Yet anyway. I just burned some lossless files so I could play it on my system!
How dare you get my hopes up that there was a physical media of it!
@@dinkjs 😂
I'm listening to John McLaughlin that show was wonderful. I like John McLaughlins music a lot. Thanks George and everyone else on the show.
Great show. Thanks!
Thanks Arnaud
This is such a great show. Thanks, guys!
Thanks Lance!
Another great show guys look forward to it every month!
Thanks Len!
Thanks Len
The only way this series could be better is if it was on EVERY Friday. A true learning experience you can't get elsewhere.
Thanks Kevin, really appreciate that comment. Definitely trying to bring you as much info as we can.
Mike was a delightful guest. I hope to see him on 4Fusion again in the future.
I really love this show.
I always learn so much about fusion … and I can’t wait to find and try them.
Thanks Mark, love hearing that!
Fantastic show guys! Been catching up with the videos I missed. I actually haven't heard the gambale album and the McLaughlin album and looks like I should definitely check them out. As for the other two albums, both are brilliant for different reasons. I am a huge Megadeth fan (arguably my favorite metal band) and had heard the ohm album first around 12 years ago and was completely in love with it. The album also had some of poland's best solos and some lovely melodies. The bass work really shines through and compliments the guitar really well. Love song is arguably my favorite solo by him. I also found it insane that he cannot really bend his index finger? And basically just plays with two fingers. His vibrato is instantly recognisable. However, personae edges it imo. I heard about this album through the channel and once I heard it the first time, I just couldn't stop. Sipe and hellborg have slowly crept into my favourite fusion rhythm section list. Lane is possibly the fastest guitar player I have ever heard but he is also extremely clean at the same time. One can easily identify the individual notes. Hellborg slapping the bass is just ear candy and the different ways he finds to slap the bass is astounding. Brilliant stuff. I also agree with the guest that McLaughlin doesn't have a great guitar tone for the electric guitar. I grew up listening to mahavishnu orchestra and Shakti. Though I love his compositions in the former and his rhythm guitar playing, his solos don't do much for me also because of the guitar tone. I definitely prefer him play the acoustic more. So I should definitely check that album out.
Great summary Chirag, thanks for watching
Amazing episode as ever on this series
Thanks Dante
Thanks for this show. I have only heard The light beyond. I have a lot of homework to do. Thank you for the info on new releases from George.
Thanks Lazaros, hope you enjoy the others
My (Mike Jacobs') picks:
1. John McLaughlin Trio - Live at the Royal Festival Hall
2. Ohm - S/T
3. Hellborg/Lane/Sipe - Personae
4. Gambale/Hamm/Smith - The Light Beyond
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www.allaboutjazz.com/tag-mike-jacobs
I haven't heard any of these releases so I have some listening to do!! Very informative episode and I gotta say, you guys are are taking me on a deep enjoyable path of GREAT music. There is so much amazing Fusion to check out!! Thanks guys.
Thanks Mike, like you, I am discovering so much great new music. And George keeps finding more great ones
@@ericporter344 yeah I told George before that I heard Al Di Meola and Chick Corea Elektric Band at a very young age and I remember liking it. But I became so into Hard Rock and Metal I just didn't dig any deeper. Now I kinda regret not seeking out this stuff a lot earlier in my musical life experience.
@@mikeklingenberg3644 Mike, I dabbled, but never got really into Fusion until recently. Now, it’s what I am listening to the most
Pete your show was awesome. Everyone did an amazing job.
Thanks to everyone on the show and thank you Eric for sending me that name.
Thanks for watching the show and clicking the like, Melanie.
Thanks Melanie
@@georgelamie7001 I always click the likes on Pete's shows. George your welcome. By clicking that thumbs up isn't that how Pete gets the points?
@@ericporter344 your welcome
Thanks Melanie. - MJ
I always look forward to these shows as it's fun to hear everyone's thoughts on albums that are either very well known or not so well known and with these picks, you can't go wrong with any of them as they're all strong in their own right and they sound fantastic.
1. John McLaughlin trio
2. Gambale Hamm Smith
3. Hellborg Lane Sipe
4. OHM
Thanks for another brilliant show and looking forward to the next one from you guys. Keep up the good work
Thanks Warhawk!
Shawn was a bottomless well of music. Such a genius. Together with Jonas and Jeff, they were among the greatest fusion bands of all time.
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The scary thing about Lane was that he was basically at that level of technical virtuosity as a prodigy by his mid/late-teens. He just had "it". At least that's what I've read. Lesser known about him are his keyboard chops. Check out his vid "Variations For Piano" on YT, mind-blowing keyboard chops. I believe the piano was actually his favorite (and first) instrument, not guitar. Someone maybe similar is Tony MacAlpine who's also a fine keyboard player but as much as I love his music, not at Lane's level on either instrument IMO
Ohm is the only one I own, Personae will be added to my Amazon cart:)...Great episode guys!!!!!!!
Thanks gazn
Killer lineup of cds! Enjoy show as always.
1. Personae
2. Ohm
3. GHS
4. JMT
Thanks Glen
Two of my favourite albums there John mclaughlin trio and Jonas hellborg trio. Funnily enough i recently picked up a few bootlegs of Mclaughlins trio live but with Jeff Berlin and Jonas Hellborg on bass and the musicianship is off the scale but the Festival hall cd is a special recording and very hard to track down these days. Looking forward to the episode 👍🏻
Excellent show as always. Even if I could not be yesterday for the release, today I had the time to sit back and enjoy. Great idea of Fusion Trios, George, (considering how much I liked Pete's July show). I had GHS and McLaughlin Trio in my list for that monthly show, but I did not consider the other two bands.
So... here it goes... after having watched the 4FF episode, I want to do the exercise of ranking these albums...
4th: The Light Beyond. "Yang" and "First Look" are fantastic. Also liked Smith's drum solo and the song after it.
3rd: Live at Royal Festival. Florianapolis, Pasha's Love, and Blues for L W do have some great moments.
2nd: Ohm S/T. Very memorable album that I dug quite a bit. Came to believe, Iguana, Bastille Day and Suicide King were my faves.
1st Personae is one hell of an album. Killer opening song and final one. So many great guitar, bass and drum solos in between. There wasn't a particular moment that lost steam, imo.
Once again thanks to Pete, George, Eric and Mike for their insight into 4 iconic fusion trios. See you on the next episode...
Thanks for catching up with us, Frank!
Thanks Frank, appreciate your thoughts, and thanks for being a loyal viewer!
Thanks guys. I'm sure it's frustrating watching someone's cat video get millions of views compared to the work you are putting in here. It's a niche market and we are niche-ish people. Thanks from all of us!
Thanks Scott! Yes, it is frustrating, but if 1-2K people get something out of these videos, guess we are doing our job.
Thanks Scott, love hearing that you enjoy the show!
Pete, that giant glass you drink out of looks like a candle from a Mexican grave somewhere lol
Another great show George and Fusion Crew. I need to go check out the OHM and the Gambale. I definitely prefer the Lane over the McLaughlin album, as the acoustic stuff didn't hold my attention very well. The Fragile - 5 album just smokes, and it's so heavy! I did add it to my Discogs wantlist, but will probably end up with mp3s, $$$.
No shame in mp3s. Not as desirable as hard copy, but better than not having it at all!
Thanks so much Jason. I’m trying to grab those Fragile discs too, but their not cheap!
@@ericporter344 Their entire s/t album ('96) is up on YT & also their album Phantom from 2006, Fragile 5 from 2000 & Handle With Care (1997), for anyone who wants to hear what they sound like. I love the guitars but the bass is just nuts. The Koichi Yabori solo stuff I've heard (not much) seemed more laid back & jazzy, less fusion. Like maybe more of a Metheny-type approach
@@wolf1977 The Yabori solo stuff is split into two factions. The first 3 are not terribly exciting, but Bloomfield and You Were There are jammin' fusion.
@@georgelamie7001 Thx I'll check those two out
John McLaughlin and Santana together does it for me with the legendary Billy Cobham
McLaughlin is great with Santana.
Love Devotion Surrender, A Live Supreme - Brothers Of The Spirit, and Invitation To Illumination: Live At Montreux 2011. All 3 tremendous albums
@@wolf1977 absolutely, I've been listening to a show from Santa Monica 1972 with McLaughlin and Santana. A blistering show. The guitars and drums are mesmerizing.
Had to check Ohm out. Tom Poland and crew. Amazing stuff. Keeping with the theme of thrash guitarists crossing over to jazz/fusion, do you guys like the Alex Skolnick Trio? I'm not that familar with them but what I've heard I like.
I didn’t care for PAKT, but need to check out more Alex
@@ericporter344 Skolnick's Planetary Coalition is really good, Live Unbound has a few good tracks. I'm with you on PAKT
More thanks to you guys. I'm really getting into Chris Poland/Ohm. What a talented group of musicans. I'm melting. 😬
@@TABL3SIX awesome to hear!
This is an awesome presentation. Audio quality of few participants is a tad questionable but anyway Mclaughlin Paco and Al and with Kai Eckardt and Trilok Gurtu (finally the percussion virtuoso from India gets some recognition) …man o man (Steven Reid style) the picks are driving me bonkers 😛 🤘👊
Thanks Arun. George is the man for the picks. Thanks for watching
@@ericporter344 Thanks Eric. Please extend my heartiest thanks to Pete, George and other Gent. This is driving me bonkers and I have posted it on twitter as well, where few of us correspond with Steven as well.
@eric porter Eric just a small request if the picks can be listed down in the comments section, it will be awesome, thanks in advance , best rgds
@@arunsabherwal6256 Thanks Arun
@@ericporter344 So Happy for George , he rocked and rulz on this episode (jazz fusion style) 👍🤘
Any chance this show can be spun off and do a 4Metal Monday with a rotating cast of Chris , Ryan, Nick and Martin?
You're kidding right? None of those guys like fusion...
@@seaoftranquilityprog i didnt mean it as a fusion show. I meant a whole new show with the same concept but instead of fusion have it feature metal
First off..I dig the show loadz! Secondly I am gonna ask about The Sadistic Mika Band one mo again. I know you guys are busy with hundreds of other bands. I'm not asking for a show on them or anything just putting a great 70's Japanese Fusion/rock band on your radar. they only have 3 albums Black Ship and Hot Menu are fantastic.
Shawn, I’ll plead ignorance. I don’t know them, but will check them out. 👍
@@ericporter344 I do hope you enjoy them. The debut album is not their best they grew up real fast by the second and third.
@@momcatbass Thanks Shawn
Great show as always, just wish Mike’s voice was quite muffled, which was probably because he was leaning back, and not close enough to his Mike. No pun intended 😀
Yeah sorry John. Didn't realize this until I watched the Ep. Will address and be ready next time. Cheers and thanks for the feedback and for watching. - MJ
I'm really happy that this SoT show survived...To me Shawn Lane is the most technically gifted guitarist ever (many will probably name Holdsworth or maybe McLaughlin, Lane's it for me). My ranking:
1. Hellborg-Lane-Sipe/Personae - monster album, to me about equal to Time Is The Enemy & maybe just a bit better than Abstract Logic (as far as Hellborg/Lane collabs go). Many just think of Lane as a balls-to-the wall shredder all the time but not so, he's got some really tasteful numbers too where he shows off his feel for the music. The title track smokes, the tone sometimes reminds me a little of Eric Johnson. Like if Holdsworth & Johnson had a baby who could play about 100x faster. "Heretics" might be my fave track...Lane also guests on at least three solo Hellborg records & on Jens Johansson's Fission, also on Michael Shrieve's very fine Two Doors. At some point I downloaded Hellborg, Lane, Sipe, 08/08/96 Lake Toxaway, NC which I believe is a boot - Wow! I really wish Lane had recorded more! Other Shawn Lane: with Windigo Band/Shawn Lane with Windigo Band & his two incredible solo albums (Powers Of Ten & Tri-Tone Fascination)
2. Ohm/Self-Titled - full album's on YT. I like this band a lot, sometimes Chris Poland's playing is too heavy for me but not in this band. There's really no track I don't like on this one. "Sister Cheryl" is a standout, so are "Bastille Day", "Where's My Hat" & "Search for the Suicide King". I like their Cirrus Of Sound even more & Amino Acid Flashback is about equal to this one (I like it maybe a bit less). I still need to get their “"Live" on KPFK 90.7 FM” record. They've also released two albums under the OHMphrey band name (with a larger lineup), those are great too. Other good stuff by Poland: 4 excellent solo albums, Cosmosquad/Squadrophenia, Damn The Machine/Self-Titled, Polcat/Self-Titled, and some guest appearances on albums by Glen Drover, Jeff Loomis
3. McLaughlin Trio/Live At Festival Hall - love McLaughlin, Trilok Gurtu is also good here (and of course Kai Eckhardt on bass). But TBH I like the Montreux Concerts package a lot more (but then again that's 17 discs), this one's maybe equal to The Boston Record for me. Live In SF is another really good live package. From this one I like "Florianopolis" (again prefer the Montreux live version), "Mother Tongues" (again Montreux has a 21 minute version that's about 2 mins longer), "Blues For L. W." is pretty cool & "Blue In Green" (a little too laid back maybe but still nice), "Pasha's Love" is probably my fave track. Almost seems like sacrilege not to rank just about any McLaughlin album at the top...
4. Gambale/Hamm/Smith - only 4th 'cause I don't have The Light Beyond (I do have their GHS3 which is very good). To me Gambale is an often-overlooked player who pretty much invented sweep picking, a lot of his solo records are really worth owning. Also on School Of The Arts, MVP (with Holdsworth), Mark Varney Project/Centrifugal Funk (great album), Ferenzik/Wild Man Of Borneo, and guested on several Vital Information albums (not to mention his work in Chick's Electric Band). I need to get this one & Show Me What You Can Do
My new fusion acquisitions over the past month:
John McLaughlin, Paco De Lucia & Al Di Meola/Saturday Night In SF - part 2 of "the greatest live acoustic guitar album ever recorded". Tremendous! Looked like everybody else had it too - it's really a "must own"
Valeriy Stepanov Fusion Project/Album No 2 - good band, this is their latest from this year
Completed my CAB discog with Live On Sunset & CAB 2. Fantastic band, Tony MacAlpine's a monster (not just in fusion but his shred stuff & instrumental rock records too)
T Lavitz/From The West - from '87 didn't have this one yet. Pretty much consistent with his other solo albums, very nice
Moose Loose/Transition - from '76, this was discussed on another 4Fusion episode (or in the comments). For McLaughlin/Di Meola fans, this smokes
Mysteries Of The Revolution/Self-Titled - from '07, a new band for me. Proggy British trio (maybe a bit more prog than fusion? Not sure), cool tunes, great keys & flutes, really catchy too
The Trackers/Vaudeville 8:45 (Feat. Gary Husband & Alf Terje Hana) - from this year & high quality since Husband's involved. Kinda funky too, some Holdsworth vibes but not as angular
Ben Todd Band/Live At The Gov - from this year, another funky fusion record (it's on Bandcamp). I like this a lot
Arc Trio & The John Daversa Big Band/Arceology: The Music Of Msm Schmidt - also previously discussed, I ended up liking this more than I thought I would. The orchestra stays out of the band's way enough
Continuum/End Of Line - from '84, Robert Baglione on guitar. RTF (the version with electric guitars)? Check! They self-released this album so not sure how easy it'd be to find on vinyl/cd. I believe this is their only album. The fast stuff is FAST, right up my alley. Some killer bass too (Robert Allen). Maybe my best fusion find of the month, at least the most surprising
Re: George's new album feature, that Lydian Nadhaswaram's Chromatic Grammatic sounds like it might be interesting, there are some YT vids out there including one with some of the guest musicians talking about the new record & featuring some music clips. The kid plays multiple instruments (and well)...Ali Neander's This One Goes To Eleven was good, might check out this latest one...I didn't know that Kick The Cat had a new live album out (the whole show's posted to YT but not sure if it's exactly the same as the album - it's basically Gurgle played live), that one is a definite purchase for me - love this band!
Thanks Wolf, appreciate your comments and for being a loyal viewer!
Saturday night in SF is a must own, nice listing of recent purchases!
Baglione sells cd's on his site, including the Continuum
@@georgelamie7001 Thx but I don't buy physical media, I downloaded Continuum from one of my digital/mp3 download sites. I'm sure others could get it right from the source though! Looks like End Of Line sells for 15 bucks on his site...Those two Cronoparadox cd's & Positive Charge (Baglione/Wooten) look interesting...
@@wolf1977 Both are good-execellent
Love Gambale. Favourites, probably Great Explorers and Passages, but there is great stuff throughout his discography. Both Varney project titles are great.
Who was the 16 year old piano player that George mentioned?
Lydian Nadhaswaram
@@georgelamie7001 Thanks George. Have you heard of Matteo Mancuso? He’s an Italian guitarist that can play many styles of music. He’s got several videos on RUclips worth checking out. Always enjoy your musical selections.
@@carlsalazar4490 He's a great player, but I don't know that he has any material out. Covers are only interesting for so long. Gotta have songs
@@georgelamie7001 I agree. I see a lot of guitarist who can copy other guitarist note for note but can’t seem to write their own material.
The only way this series could be better is if Andy Edwards was on the panel!
BTW Andy really re-sparked my interest in Gambale in an episode where he talked about how undervalued he thought Gambale was
@@wolf1977 Ironically, I think Andy is a guy who is undervaluing him. He somehow didn't have him on his top 10, favoring a couple guys who barely played any fusion in ther career.
@@georgelamie7001 Andy had Gambale at #13 on his list of top 50 fusion guitarists. He does call him "an incredible guitarist" & in the vid even uses Gambale to compare other good-to-great players to, but then also says much of his stuff is "middle of the road" so...The major disagreement for me is Shawn Lane at #26 - way too low! Very happy (and very surprised) that he's got Tommy Bolin at #10, fantastic player & one of my personal faves but most of his stuff isn't fusion so I'd probably have a hard time putting him into my top 10 all time fusion players, to me that list should focus on players who at least primarily play fusion...
I'm not sure Gambale'd be in my top 10 either, maybe. I'd have to think about it. I don't think I could rank him higher than Jeff Beck, McLaughlin, Di Meola, Lane, MacAlpine, Morse (if we're counting him under fusion), maybe Govan. I like Brett Garsed a lot, Gary Boyle (especially with Isotope), Robben Ford (another underrated player but maybe more in the blues/rock arena). Greg Howe's done some really good work, John Goodsall, Scofield, Larry Coryell. Even someone like Steve Lukather when he decides to go fusion. Holdsworth, Scott Henderson, Terje Rypdal, Kazumi Watanabe is great - I think those 4 players would probably rank higher for me...
Speaking of Andy just saw that in his recent episode The 10 Greatest JAZZ FUSION BASSISTS he's got Percy Jones on the list, one of my faves. No Jeff Berlin though...
@@wolf1977 Having Gambale and Lane(and Stern) below Bolin and Beck is just silly. You can count the amount of fusion albums Beck and Bolin are on with one hand. Even if I thought they were the best albums ever, there's no resume there, particularly next to Gambale. If it's favorites, that's another story. But his list is Greatest, and he specifically says influence, innovation, and technique are his criteria. Bolin in particular, is nowhere near Frank on those
@@georgelamie7001 Can't really argue much with that. Beck's high on any "greatest guitar player" list for me but that's my prejudice for his playing coming through, same with Morse. I think you could make a technique argument for Beck & Morse though, and certainly for influence on others...If I were putting Bolin on the list then why not also Gary Moore (at least with 3 Colosseum II albums), Ronnie Montrose (Tony Williams Live In Tokyo), Andy Summers (at least 3 fusion records), Jimmy Herring (Aquarium Rescue Unit, Jazz Is Dead, with T Lavitz & solo), Chris Poland...Been getting into Akira Wada lately, pretty good
Any of you guy's ever heard of a guitarist called Keith More. He was a one album and done guy who I saw at a guitar show in Birmingham UK in 1996, where he was on a demo stand playing his own music. Had to buy the cd based on how great a player he was and the quality of his music. His backing musicians are fantastic on this album, as are the compositions. It's probably a difficult cd to find(although Ken may have a copy lol). Last I read Keith had gone into studio production work which is a shame because he Is a real fiery edge of your seat player, but can also jazz things up at times. Hopefully this link works where the uploader has got the other tracks of the cd. ruclips.net/video/NUhI75qNAko/видео.html
Apparently a session player, there's a YT video for "Unopened Book" from his (only?) album Guitar Stories (sounds pretty good). They list a link there to buy it but but it says it's in 192k mp3 format which I think will dissuade a lot of people...He also has a Soundcloud page
@@wolf1977 All the tracks are available on a RUclipsr called King Dave's channel. He has them all separately rather than a full album listing. Glad I bought the cd at the time of meeting him.
Not sure why you guys consider some of this music fusion. None of the players on the Ohm album are jazz musicians and the album sounds like an instrumental rock album.
Definitely a rock element, but Fusion is there as well.
@@ericporter344 Hi Eric, check this guy's only cd from 1996. Awesome fiery playing and natural tone. ruclips.net/video/_HmEP9--Brw/видео.html
@@ericporter344 As far as I know none of the guys in Ohm are jazz musicians, and I don't hear any jazz influence in the music. So what aspect of their music makes you think there is fusion in it?
@@MrThinkingahead both Poland and bassist Pagliari often discuss their love of fusion, and it’s influence on their writing/playing. I love Polands phrasing, and it goes beyond standard rock/blues based playing to my ears. I hear fusion/rock in their playing and compositions.
@@ericporter344 Hmm. Joe Satriani has been influenced by jazz and fusion musicians and his playing goes beyond standard rock and blues playing, but his music isn't fusion, and he would agree it's not. One of the big reasons is the fact that he's not a jazz musician fusing jazz with other styles. The great fusion musicians that helped to invent fusion were jazz musicians that combined jazz with other styles. Tony Williams, Joe Zawinul, Wayne Shorter, Miles Davis, John McLaughlin, and Chick Corea were all jazz musicians. Being a jazz musician is a very important element to be considered a fusion musician.