I hope they do a classic plus. I have liked SOD for the most part. I agree, I hate the BRM event. its horrible to be a low level and get killed multiple times trying to get to BRD. I've never played on a PVE server and generally like PVP but I have hated it in SOD. PVP is basically who can blow their CD first wins. People have too many stuns and burst damage. I'd roll on an PVE sever if they do it again and choose to participate in PVP when I want to.
@@Kaghoegaming A couple of other things they need to improve on. Move some stuff to personal loot rather than group, like orbs or scourge stones, idols. I've been leveling a druid and the only groups I can find often have these hard-reserved because of tanks' demands. They also need to encourage people to run regular instances more; reals were great to start, but at some point, you don't need them. There needs to be a currency that everyone needs, or maybe even a daily instance like they started in WOLK. Outside of being a healer or tank, finding an instant group is challenging at this point.
@@ddc2343d I always played in pvp servers but rolled pve for sod. I wanted to be able to enjoy the content without worrying about some 60 lvl camping you cause they don't touch grass.
@@Kaghoegaming My response here was civil, helpful and was just about a farm. And it gets nuked??? On a channel I enjoy for the farms you post. I got the idea from you to farm dark riders at the lowest level possible. Why would my BRE farm. In plain sight of anyone at TP. Worst kept secret in wow... get nuked. It's like any other farm where time and effort spent rewards those who persist???
After the fun additions the SoD runes systems has brought to the table, I can't see a Classic+ where the classes and specs are more or less Vanilla with just slight tweaks or buffs. I agree that the power level should be scaled back some and the leveling journey should take a "classic" amount of time and effort, but I would really want a fresh take on the classes, specs and possibly roles. Hell, I'd even be up for new races and classes where they made sense and if they kept to the "classic" design focus.
Classic + with cata/retail graphics on/off option - Caverns of time, Scarlet raid, m+, sod runes as abilites scaled down, ranked bg's, arena's and we got ourselfs A GAME
regular vanilla season after sod ends then another season just building upon sod with more content. have a sod era realm that adds future season content at the end of every season. i dont really care about what our power lvl is at aslong as we stay lvl 60 add runes to every slot and have several different options for every slot. also have some runes drop from raids
I think classic plus will just be SoD with some polish. I don’t see them rolling back runes after we’ve seen how fun this content is with them. I agree that you ask 1000 people what they want and you’ll get 1000 answers. But I feel like boiling it down you get people in 2 groups. People who just want OG classic, but with some new content past Naxx and people who want to play in the classic world, but with properly functioning classes. I can see them releasing both of these versions in tandem with each other. I’d love them to continue with SoD. Try out making some new raids at 60 and then move on to TBC SOD. But with it being a seasonal server I think they’d struggle to shoehorn in a cash shop now, so a fresh SOD with a new name is what they’ll go for
Yeah I really think they just need to redo the talent trees and add the “new” zones you mentioned. Ya know make +defense translate to Ap/Sp deep talents for tanks so protect warriors use shields and not dual wield ect. Make the survival tree not useless for hunters, change all the warlock talents that are thematically broken like demonic sacrifice (your best pet is the one you kill yourself after-all). Even demonic pact is kinda janky. The class with infinite mana steals mana from their pets.. maybe warlocks are just pet hating a-holes. Oomkins and ferals need PETA backing them, and idc what esfand says pallys can’t tank, but they wear plate. It’s a huge win having all the class diversity in sod I just hope they can take that forward with out breaking too much.
I wish there was more interactive play between players. For example, in league of legends you will have certain heroes that can do a certain high dmg ability to an enemy if that enemy is in the air. Others will have a knock up ability, and so, you have to coordinate the knock up so the other player can do their air strike ability. Similarly, I wish there was more interactive play like this. A druid casting innervate on a healer, or a shaman placing a decoy totem on a tank, those are good. Wildstrikes on Druids for example is a step in the wrong direction imo. The Druid goes into cat form, Boom, gives everyone Windfury, and then does his rotation 8-9 times until the boss dies. At least when the shaman was giving windfury he has to move the totems and refresh them every two minutes… wow needs to move in that direction. You want to distinguish gamers from the dads. This is why everyone is constantly hopping on a new alt, and eventually just gets burned out, because there isn’t enough gameplay for your main. I’d also like to see them find ways to keep lower level dungeons relevant. Letting them drop reals seems like the easiest solution, but I’d even make it so that in order to get attuned for LBRS/UBRS, you first have to run a full BRD, etc. I tried running a Mara for my thrash blade on an alt recently and it took hours to get a group together. And for the love of god, please activate summoning stones. I wouldn’t do LFG because you do want people traveling the open world, but why can’t 2 or 3 people summon someone in Undercity to Silithus. We’re doing that anyway, by paying all these stupid warlock bots for summons. I’m assuming they will build Classic plus on a new server platform? If so, I’d do away with some of the runes and just make those abilities baseline. The AOE abilities in particular come to mind. I hate having to equip carve in place of my single target rune every time I see 3 or more mobs. Just make carve baseline.
Very well said man! There is a ton of things they could do, and it’s what makes the idea of classic plus so truly exciting, I completely forgot about summon stones, that would be so nice
Summoning stones not coming to SoD when they were in SoM sucked for sure. But I'm at least glad we got closest. But yeah, the travel time always sucks, especially if someone drops and 4 of you are waiting 10mins or longer. This is classic continent unlike in Northrend where people could fly fast to zones.
There are so many good private servers right now that I really question the point of anything but a completely new WOW 2.0. Modern visuals, all the qol changes, old school leveling + options (let me choose how I want to level, even turn off XP), revamped races and classes that matter, maybe even racial differences in classes. Have an actual plan for how expansions would work with players that come in late, not to mention storytelling. Free to play, finance over extra purchases alone.
@@Kaghoegaming yeah like every day i open yt and type "wow classic plus" and see if there is any new content about that... its not youtubers fault its blizzard that have nothing for us and sod sucks as a plus
Stay true to the OG strong class fantasy. (Warcraft 1 to 3) You have to feel you are this class with strengths and weaknesses and cool flawerful abilities. -Stronger Focus on exploration, for example, things you can just reach with sertan class abilities (Water Walking and so on) -new timeline, keep an og storyline that is in-line with warcraft 1 to 3 -Turtle wow'ish class changes (just small changes to the classes, like 5%-10%, little tweaks) -no sod Rune system -Ban 95% off addons and data collecting websites -Ban Bots and goldsellers -built-in fully customazible UI -Add more quest (every zone 5 to 10 more quests) -new class quests -no hard daily quests -Finish unfinished questlines like corrupted ashbringer etc. -Fill out the big empty gaps on the map and create New zones/quests/dungeons/raids/open world elite zones -Add voicelines to important storylines -Add Mini worldbosses to every zone -the world has to feel dangerous maybe buff the mob dmg by 5% -no faster leveling then vanilla, maybe even 10-20% slower but increase the rested xp effectivness -maybe higher resolution/upscaled textures, but i don't want this disney graphics from retail, keep the badass og warcraft vibe -lfg board and no teleport -remove debuff limit -thousend needles raceway -target dummies -questlines to Add some passives like: +1 to axes etc. -taxes on your Gold for example if you have 5000g you have to pay 10% Taxes every month and with 1000g 0% taxes -world buffs doesn't work in dungeons/raids -instant mailing -add barber shop just for hairs and beards -no dual spec just lower the respec cost to 5g -no flying mounts -flight path tweaks -20-40 man flex raiding -no transmog, but maybe toggle on off Button -never go above level 60 -ceep the Power creep as low as possible -increase running speed in ghostform -increase the character creation limit from 10 to 20 -at lvl 40 gear can roll attributes for example: gear can have 1 to 3 stars, 1 Star rolls 10 stam. 2 Star rolls 12 stam. 3 stars rolls 14 stam. Etc... and maybe with the right profession you can Upgrade your gear piece by 1 Star lvl -increase the quest log limit from 20 to 25 -questitem for example like "scorpid sting" should drop always -create Tier Sets for every class spec -Add adchievment system -change the r14 Grind system, but don't make it to easy to achieve -Add arenas -New battlegrounds -tweaking professions -New recipes -guildbanks -flytpaths a bit faster -Add juwelcrafting and make it that the Gems you can apply to every piece of gear but just for example the maximum should not be more like Add 12 strenght or 6 strenght and 6 stamina at Max level -make it that you can have up to 2 Main professions an 2 gathering professions but they cap at 150 max -Add servival profession twow'ish New Races: Horde Ogers/Goblins and Alliance High Elfs and Worgen Hero Classes like they where Intended in the early development of WoW (Race and Class Restricted, Unlock with lvl 30 after Quest Chain)(Hero Classes has 3 Talent Specializations) Demon Hunter: Night Elves / Death Knight: Undead / Necromancer: Humans, Undead, Oger / Blood Mage: High Elves, Worgen, Troll / Witch Doktor: Trolls / Tinker: Gnomes, Goblins Class/Race Combinations: Add Dwarf Shaman, remove Dwarf Rogue Add Gnome Tinker, remove Gnome Warrior Add Human Necromancer, remove Human Warlock Add Night Elves Demon Hunter Add High Elves Mage, Add High Elves Blood Mage, Add High Elves Hunter, Add High Elves Paladin Add Worgen Warrior, Add Worgen Mage, Add Worgen Blood Mage, Add Worgen Rogue, Add Troll Witch Doktor Add Undead Death Knight, add Undead Necromancer, add Undead Paladin, remove Undead Warrior Add Oger Mage, Add Oger Shaman, Add Oger Warrior, Add Oger Necromancer Add Goblin Hunter, Add Goblin Rogue, Add Goblin Warlock, Add Goblin Tinker Dwarf Shaman has to be unlocked for example: Start as Hunter at level 15 you can start a questline to become a Shaman an Lose 5 levels. Undead Paladin has to be unlocked for example: Start as Warrior at level 15 you can start a questline to become a Paladin and loose 5 levels. New zone Hijal Story: Burning legion is back to revive Archimond New epic Orc storyline Starts in volley of trials: "Cure of the orc'ish Demon blood (greenskin)" Like mentioned ebove, with the gear Star system, imagine a 3 Star "Ravager" who get another effect or buff the existing effects! It has to be a really Rare drop ofcourse.
I love that I could inspire you to write such a long, detailed, and exquisite comment. A lot of what you said is quite interesting and would be cool to see, I just fear that is it a completely different game at that point and would be wayyy to much for blizzard to do
@@Kaghoegaming If it comes to c+ i'm so passionate about it, since MoP i thinking of an alternate Timeline because i didn't like the way the game has changed! So for me there are just 2 possibilities how they should takle c+ , 1. Very very minimal changes to the game, to ashure 100% the vanilla feeling. 2. A new timeline, where they add more things and try to capture the old feeling as good as possible.
Honestly, we should keep our expectations fairly low. The reason that OSRS thrives and continues to get updates is because Jagex can monetize it beyond the subscription with their own version of the WoW token called "bonds". I imagine this would pretty much be blasphemy to those who want Classic Plus. So we can't really expect them to assign too many resources to it - if they even choose to make it. They're probably reluctant to call anything they release "Classic Plus" simply because there's so much variation in what it means to different players and what they would and wouldn't accept as changes and additions.
The thing is that we will never EVER have th classic '05-'08 experience. It's impossible.All of us who played during that time knows what to do now. We also have add ons that tell us what to do. The real "classic" experience will never be had again. Specially since you got super nerds rushing through the content and then get bored 3 months later after clearing everything. The only way I see classic give us new experience is by having raids be seasonal, so we dont have everyone in bis the first 6 weeks.
having multi roles like SoD did makes it easier to make groups, I think that's make SoD good, you spending forever to find a tank for a pug or a healer because more classes can tank and heal they need to keep that feature
They need to take the positives from sod. Quality of life features etc. not every class needs a whole re work, just brought up to the rest. Eg paladin taunt, shadow priest mana regen etc
@@Kaghoegaming yeah, this imo has all been a beta and hopefully they got the data to make a good balanced version ( as balanced as possible anyway) of classic… with some things like dual spec added.. new gear and tweaks. New zones and quests… that’s all the game really needs imo.
SoD is classic plus I never understand what people are thinking...they gave new dungeons, made classes viable, new raid bosses and repeatability to old dungeons with the reels system. what do people actually want? I find everyone asking for classic plus to not even be in agreement on what that means and I just think SoD is the best you're going to get. Maybe a more refined version of it but SoD is classic + And please they need to make sure (if they do make a "classic+") we get fleshed out classes. no one button frostbolt spam classic style classes. honestly I get classic is easier to play for boomers than retail (no offense I am one myself) but the classes in classic wow are such unfinished products and quite frankly poorly designed in some cases. SoD did a decent job at fixing some of that.
@@Kaghoegaming but if they are going to do classic plus it would need to be on a new client and perhaps on a new engine, if you and everyone else wants this game to be evergreen classic content.
We already saw how SoD turned out? why would be different in wow classic +? Unfortunately wow vanilla is over, and I'm glad you got to experience wow classic during its era =) 2005-2006 great memories! Classic+ I don't believe that for a second! Want to play wow classic again then the hardcore servers are the ones that deliver the most :). I no longer believe in the Microsoft developers anymore! Wow classic + for me is - Keep the exact wow classic vanilla as it is - but put new bosses in the existing dungeons! 1-2 new bosses with new mechanics, no new loot, but dropped things should be green or rare/ recipes. Add more quests in wow classic not that give lots of new gear or exp, but just like the rest of the quests in the game. Add more areas to quest in =). Take away this runes system that was not good. Add more world bosses to the world that would be fun!! - Dont add any new epic items!! maybe rework some of the epic we have already but small changes!
I feel like classic+ is NOT going to be made for the classic Era andys as blizz already have your Sub money. Classic+ will be made for the people who left wow for a private server, for the people who want new systems, new content but with a classic feel. It will have changes and the no changes crowd will be mad but again its no for us lol
I wouldn't mind daily quests in the form of incursions or brm to be there, so long as the rewards are significantly scaled down. They should be a supplementary activity for a little gold and rep to help with the grind.
stop the idea of classic + common move forward they wont do a classic + only ofr 10k ppl, at least we gonna keep play SoD TBC, but stop asking for classic, im gonna laft alot when april 25 came out and no news about classic +. so stop baiting ppl pls
Sucks as it may be for some. Classic Plus needs to have a cash shop. That would be a sign wow was serious about keeping a second classic version of wow, running against their classic progressive version of wow. One ticket gets you on all the wow rides. No cash shop means no added profits for Blizz. And no added love for that version of wow's playerbase.
With CATA, being CATA, and SoD, ending in a whimper. The new generation, newer??... less old generation? Have nowhere to go but retail for more of that sweaty gaming feelgoods that SoD and Incs got them addicted to. We all figured SoD was our gateway drug to Classic Plus. But maybe blizz pulled another fast one and cut it with enough retail for the results they sought. However it turned out, TWW is blizz's red hot commodity atm. With the og cash shop bringing in the gold.
@@Kaghoegaming I wish them good luck cause of where the servers are hosted and where the owner has the buisness setup in Russia . that is why they were only able to take down their you tube channel. Plus the turtles unreal engine 5 client is gonna be crazy Also I do not think they have the legal reach to shut them down do to relations with the US and Russia. I love your channel though you do present some interesting ideas and conten.
@@layol692k7 While you are correct, they dont have to do much, they could copy everything they have done and call it classic plus, and everyone would play it because its official. Nothing turtle could do and they would lose... Thank you btw, comments like that always make me smile :)
@@Kaghoegaming I am interested to watch the fireworks as long as t wow stays up I will continue to play there they also have one thing no monthly fees Que up the Beer and popcorn I think it may get interesting
Indeed. I don't think Blizzard is capable of doing this anymore. TurtleWoW has the vibe of the original WoW dev team, creating the best experience for gamers and not about the money.
Here to once again let people know that Classic+ is not a thing. It was never and will never be a thing, it doesnt exist. If you want classic+ look into some of the private servers, which are also free.
sod is the best thing to happen to wow in 10 years
It’s been awesome
I hope they do a classic plus. I have liked SOD for the most part. I agree, I hate the BRM event. its horrible to be a low level and get killed multiple times trying to get to BRD. I've never played on a PVE server and generally like PVP but I have hated it in SOD. PVP is basically who can blow their CD first wins. People have too many stuns and burst damage. I'd roll on an PVE sever if they do it again and choose to participate in PVP when I want to.
This is such a great comment, it’s kinda how I feel as well, not sure if I’ll roll PvE or PvP in the future
@@Kaghoegaming A couple of other things they need to improve on. Move some stuff to personal loot rather than group, like orbs or scourge stones, idols. I've been leveling a druid and the only groups I can find often have these hard-reserved because of tanks' demands. They also need to encourage people to run regular instances more; reals were great to start, but at some point, you don't need them. There needs to be a currency that everyone needs, or maybe even a daily instance like they started in WOLK. Outside of being a healer or tank, finding an instant group is challenging at this point.
@@ddc2343d I always played in pvp servers but rolled pve for sod. I wanted to be able to enjoy the content without worrying about some 60 lvl camping you cause they don't touch grass.
@@Kaghoegaming My response here was civil, helpful and was just about a farm. And it gets nuked???
On a channel I enjoy for the farms you post. I got the idea from you to farm dark riders at the lowest level possible.
Why would my BRE farm. In plain sight of anyone at TP. Worst kept secret in wow... get nuked. It's like any other farm where time and effort spent rewards those who persist???
After the fun additions the SoD runes systems has brought to the table, I can't see a Classic+ where the classes and specs are more or less Vanilla with just slight tweaks or buffs.
I agree that the power level should be scaled back some and the leveling journey should take a "classic" amount of time and effort, but I would really want a fresh take on the classes, specs and possibly roles. Hell, I'd even be up for new races and classes where they made sense and if they kept to the "classic" design focus.
I could see us getting blood elf’s and dran but idk ruins shammy and pally hero classes
Would be interested to hear how you'd redesign Outlands abd Northrend for C+
Classic + with cata/retail graphics on/off option - Caverns of time, Scarlet raid, m+, sod runes as abilites scaled down, ranked bg's, arena's and we got ourselfs A GAME
Sounds like retail…
No retail graphics.. wotlk at best I say tbc at best
regular vanilla season after sod ends then another season just building upon sod with more content. have a sod era realm that adds future season content at the end of every season. i dont really care about what our power lvl is at aslong as we stay lvl 60 add runes to every slot and have several different options for every slot. also have some runes drop from raids
That could work as well, would be interesting
I think classic plus will just be SoD with some polish. I don’t see them rolling back runes after we’ve seen how fun this content is with them.
I agree that you ask 1000 people what they want and you’ll get 1000 answers. But I feel like boiling it down you get people in 2 groups. People who just want OG classic, but with some new content past Naxx and people who want to play in the classic world, but with properly functioning classes.
I can see them releasing both of these versions in tandem with each other.
I’d love them to continue with SoD. Try out making some new raids at 60 and then move on to TBC SOD. But with it being a seasonal server I think they’d struggle to shoehorn in a cash shop now, so a fresh SOD with a new name is what they’ll go for
There are quite a few paths they can take
Affliction Warlocks need so much help
Luckily the blueprint is there!
Yeah I really think they just need to redo the talent trees and add the “new” zones you mentioned. Ya know make +defense translate to Ap/Sp deep talents for tanks so protect warriors use shields and not dual wield ect. Make the survival tree not useless for hunters, change all the warlock talents that are thematically broken like demonic sacrifice (your best pet is the one you kill yourself after-all). Even demonic pact is kinda janky. The class with infinite mana steals mana from their pets.. maybe warlocks are just pet hating a-holes. Oomkins and ferals need PETA backing them, and idc what esfand says pallys can’t tank, but they wear plate. It’s a huge win having all the class diversity in sod I just hope they can take that forward with out breaking too much.
Death knights only for humans and undead classic plus let’s go
Maybeeee
I wish there was more interactive play between players. For example, in league of legends you will have certain heroes that can do a certain high dmg ability to an enemy if that enemy is in the air. Others will have a knock up ability, and so, you have to coordinate the knock up so the other player can do their air strike ability. Similarly, I wish there was more interactive play like this. A druid casting innervate on a healer, or a shaman placing a decoy totem on a tank, those are good. Wildstrikes on Druids for example is a step in the wrong direction imo. The Druid goes into cat form, Boom, gives everyone Windfury, and then does his rotation 8-9 times until the boss dies. At least when the shaman was giving windfury he has to move the totems and refresh them every two minutes… wow needs to move in that direction. You want to distinguish gamers from the dads. This is why everyone is constantly hopping on a new alt, and eventually just gets burned out, because there isn’t enough gameplay for your main.
I’d also like to see them find ways to keep lower level dungeons relevant. Letting them drop reals seems like the easiest solution, but I’d even make it so that in order to get attuned for LBRS/UBRS, you first have to run a full BRD, etc. I tried running a Mara for my thrash blade on an alt recently and it took hours to get a group together.
And for the love of god, please activate summoning stones. I wouldn’t do LFG because you do want people traveling the open world, but why can’t 2 or 3 people summon someone in Undercity to Silithus. We’re doing that anyway, by paying all these stupid warlock bots for summons.
I’m assuming they will build Classic plus on a new server platform? If so, I’d do away with some of the runes and just make those abilities baseline. The AOE abilities in particular come to mind. I hate having to equip carve in place of my single target rune every time I see 3 or more mobs. Just make carve baseline.
Very well said man! There is a ton of things they could do, and it’s what makes the idea of classic plus so truly exciting, I completely forgot about summon stones, that would be so nice
@@Kaghoegaming and the 400% flight speed needs to be made 800%. The 7 minute flights are getting really old…
Summoning stones not coming to SoD when they were in SoM sucked for sure. But I'm at least glad we got closest. But yeah, the travel time always sucks, especially if someone drops and 4 of you are waiting 10mins or longer. This is classic continent unlike in Northrend where people could fly fast to zones.
Sir Sir, I want to ask what farming is like so you can get a lot of gold quickly
In what game?
There are so many good private servers right now that I really question the point of anything but a completely new WOW 2.0.
Modern visuals, all the qol changes, old school leveling + options (let me choose how I want to level, even turn off XP), revamped races and classes that matter, maybe even racial differences in classes. Have an actual plan for how expansions would work with players that come in late, not to mention storytelling.
Free to play, finance over extra purchases alone.
Private servers lack player base, it’s not even comparable to official… you are suggesting a completely different game and to many things
I don't want them to start over for classic+, just build upon SoD.
Classic plus needs some form of progression system . Not leveling . Stay at 60. But something to progress on. Idk what tho
Classic+ is gonna be kaghoe content milking
Not at all, just not much to talk about with SoD and the people really like the idea of classic plus
I love kaghoegaming’s videos. I love these types of videos don’t listen to the haters. Keep making them!
@@Kaghoegaming yeah like every day i open yt and type "wow classic plus" and see if there is any new content about that... its not youtubers fault its blizzard that have nothing for us and sod sucks as a plus
They need to make new abilities part of the character not rune quests and need all new quests dungeons raids and have questie banned. My opinion
Would be interesting to see
Stay true to the OG strong class fantasy. (Warcraft 1 to 3) You have to feel you are this class with strengths and weaknesses and cool flawerful abilities.
-Stronger Focus on exploration, for example, things you can just reach with sertan class abilities (Water Walking and so on)
-new timeline, keep an og storyline that is in-line with warcraft 1 to 3
-Turtle wow'ish class changes (just small changes to the classes, like 5%-10%, little tweaks)
-no sod Rune system
-Ban 95% off addons and data collecting websites
-Ban Bots and goldsellers
-built-in fully customazible UI
-Add more quest (every zone 5 to 10 more quests)
-new class quests
-no hard daily quests
-Finish unfinished questlines like corrupted ashbringer etc.
-Fill out the big empty gaps on the map and create New zones/quests/dungeons/raids/open world elite zones
-Add voicelines to important storylines
-Add Mini worldbosses to every zone
-the world has to feel dangerous maybe buff the mob dmg by 5%
-no faster leveling then vanilla, maybe even 10-20% slower but increase the rested xp effectivness
-maybe higher resolution/upscaled textures, but i don't want this disney graphics from retail, keep the badass og warcraft vibe
-lfg board and no teleport
-remove debuff limit
-thousend needles raceway
-target dummies
-questlines to Add some passives like: +1 to axes etc.
-taxes on your Gold for example if you have 5000g you have to pay 10% Taxes every month and with 1000g 0% taxes
-world buffs doesn't work in dungeons/raids
-instant mailing
-add barber shop just for hairs and beards
-no dual spec just lower the respec cost to 5g
-no flying mounts
-flight path tweaks
-20-40 man flex raiding
-no transmog, but maybe toggle on off Button
-never go above level 60
-ceep the Power creep as low as possible
-increase running speed in ghostform
-increase the character creation limit from 10 to 20
-at lvl 40 gear can roll attributes for example: gear can have 1 to 3 stars, 1 Star rolls 10 stam. 2 Star rolls 12 stam. 3 stars rolls 14 stam. Etc... and maybe with the right profession you can Upgrade your gear piece by 1 Star lvl
-increase the quest log limit from 20 to 25
-questitem for example like "scorpid sting" should drop always
-create Tier Sets for every class spec
-Add adchievment system
-change the r14 Grind system, but don't make it to easy to achieve
-Add arenas
-New battlegrounds
-tweaking professions
-New recipes
-guildbanks
-flytpaths a bit faster
-Add juwelcrafting and make it that the Gems you can apply to every piece of gear but just for example the maximum should not be more like Add 12 strenght or 6 strenght and 6 stamina at Max level
-make it that you can have up to 2 Main professions an 2 gathering professions but they cap at 150 max
-Add servival profession twow'ish
New Races: Horde Ogers/Goblins and Alliance High Elfs and Worgen
Hero Classes like they where Intended in the early development of WoW (Race and Class Restricted, Unlock with lvl 30 after Quest Chain)(Hero Classes has 3 Talent Specializations) Demon Hunter: Night Elves / Death Knight: Undead / Necromancer: Humans, Undead, Oger / Blood Mage: High Elves, Worgen, Troll / Witch Doktor: Trolls / Tinker: Gnomes, Goblins
Class/Race Combinations: Add Dwarf Shaman, remove Dwarf Rogue Add Gnome Tinker, remove Gnome Warrior Add Human Necromancer, remove Human Warlock Add Night Elves Demon Hunter Add High Elves Mage, Add High Elves Blood Mage, Add High Elves Hunter, Add High Elves Paladin Add Worgen Warrior, Add Worgen Mage, Add Worgen Blood Mage, Add Worgen Rogue, Add Troll Witch Doktor Add Undead Death Knight, add Undead Necromancer, add Undead Paladin, remove Undead Warrior Add Oger Mage, Add Oger Shaman, Add Oger Warrior, Add Oger Necromancer Add Goblin Hunter, Add Goblin Rogue, Add Goblin Warlock, Add Goblin Tinker
Dwarf Shaman has to be unlocked for example: Start as Hunter at level 15 you can start a questline to become a Shaman an Lose 5 levels.
Undead Paladin has to be unlocked for example: Start as Warrior at level 15 you can start a questline to become a Paladin and loose 5 levels.
New zone Hijal Story: Burning legion is back to revive Archimond
New epic Orc storyline Starts in volley of trials: "Cure of the orc'ish Demon blood (greenskin)"
Like mentioned ebove, with the gear Star system, imagine a 3 Star "Ravager" who get another effect or buff the existing effects! It has to be a really Rare drop ofcourse.
I love that I could inspire you to write such a long, detailed, and exquisite comment. A lot of what you said is quite interesting and would be cool to see, I just fear that is it a completely different game at that point and would be wayyy to much for blizzard to do
@@Kaghoegaming If it comes to c+ i'm so passionate about it, since MoP i thinking of an alternate Timeline because i didn't like the way the game has changed!
So for me there are just 2 possibilities how they should takle c+ , 1. Very very minimal changes to the game, to ashure 100% the vanilla feeling. 2. A new timeline, where they add more things and try to capture the old feeling as good as possible.
Is this AI?
@@mohamamdziaei5920 what do you mean?
just keep sod going as its own project non seasonal
I’m not opposed to that
New content only after Naxx? Who would play that? New things right from level 1!
So many people would play a TON, they’ve been asking for fresh classic for 4 years now
Honestly, we should keep our expectations fairly low. The reason that OSRS thrives and continues to get updates is because Jagex can monetize it beyond the subscription with their own version of the WoW token called "bonds". I imagine this would pretty much be blasphemy to those who want Classic Plus. So we can't really expect them to assign too many resources to it - if they even choose to make it. They're probably reluctant to call anything they release "Classic Plus" simply because there's so much variation in what it means to different players and what they would and wouldn't accept as changes and additions.
The thing is that we will never EVER have th classic '05-'08 experience. It's impossible.All of us who played during that time knows what to do now. We also have add ons that tell us what to do. The real "classic" experience will never be had again. Specially since you got super nerds rushing through the content and then get bored 3 months later after clearing everything. The only way I see classic give us new experience is by having raids be seasonal, so we dont have everyone in bis the first 6 weeks.
That’s why a classic plus with new things will do so very well :)
having multi roles like SoD did makes it easier to make groups, I think that's make SoD good, you spending forever to find a tank for a pug or a healer because more classes can tank and heal they need to keep that feature
absolutely
April 2025 might very well be the end of the world…. Of Warcraft.
NO SHOT
They need to take the positives from sod. Quality of life features etc. not every class needs a whole re work, just brought up to the rest. Eg paladin taunt, shadow priest mana regen etc
Absolutely! That’s exactly what I meant with the meme specs becoming real specs
@@Kaghoegaming yeah, this imo has all been a beta and hopefully they got the data to make a good balanced version ( as balanced as possible anyway) of classic… with some things like dual spec added.. new gear and tweaks. New zones and quests… that’s all the game really needs imo.
why does classic plus have to be a whole new thing what if it turns out to be a paywall for sod that takes you on a new pre dark portal opening
I’d be down for that as well
SoD is classic plus I never understand what people are thinking...they gave new dungeons, made classes viable, new raid bosses and repeatability to old dungeons with the reels system. what do people actually want? I find everyone asking for classic plus to not even be in agreement on what that means and I just think SoD is the best you're going to get. Maybe a more refined version of it but SoD is classic + And please they need to make sure (if they do make a "classic+") we get fleshed out classes. no one button frostbolt spam classic style classes. honestly I get classic is easier to play for boomers than retail (no offense I am one myself) but the classes in classic wow are such unfinished products and quite frankly poorly designed in some cases. SoD did a decent job at fixing some of that.
It’s not, the devs have outright said that, and strongly implied its classic plus beta
I like how all the content people bring up for Classic plus is just literally shit they added in other expansions.
But told in completely different ways, as well as the reality of them not being able to create new assists on the classic engine.
@@Kaghoegaming but if they are going to do classic plus it would need to be on a new client and perhaps on a new engine, if you and everyone else wants this game to be evergreen classic content.
I'm already a subscriber, sir
Thank you :)
We already saw how SoD turned out? why would be different in wow classic +? Unfortunately wow vanilla is over, and I'm glad you got to experience wow classic during its era =) 2005-2006 great memories! Classic+ I don't believe that for a second! Want to play wow classic again then the hardcore servers are the ones that deliver the most :). I no longer believe in the Microsoft developers anymore!
Wow classic + for me is - Keep the exact wow classic vanilla as it is - but put new bosses in the existing dungeons! 1-2 new bosses with new mechanics, no new loot, but dropped things should be green or rare/ recipes. Add more quests in wow classic not that give lots of new gear or exp, but just like the rest of the quests in the game. Add more areas to quest in =). Take away this runes system that was not good. Add more world bosses to the world that would be fun!! - Dont add any new epic items!! maybe rework some of the epic we have already but small changes!
Because they could give it to us refined polished and all at once. They have essentially said SoD is classic plus beta
I feel like classic+ is NOT going to be made for the classic Era andys as blizz already have your Sub money. Classic+ will be made for the people who left wow for a private server, for the people who want new systems, new content but with a classic feel. It will have changes and the no changes crowd will be mad but again its no for us lol
The no changes are to small to effect if they go a for classic plus or not, it’s the degree of changes they put in
I wouldn't mind daily quests in the form of incursions or brm to be there, so long as the rewards are significantly scaled down. They should be a supplementary activity for a little gold and rep to help with the grind.
Yeah it really depends on how much they keep or take away
The real answer is : a dissapointment, just like sod.
SoD has been wildly successful, and it’s not even close… compare it to SoM and Era. It annihilates them. Even beats Classic 2019 at times
@@Kaghoegaming Bro ppl were raiding with 4-5-6-7-8 characters. The logs are inflated. Please learn how to analyze the chart.
@@cLaNjObwho is raiding with 4 people? Send a link please.
@@DinkyDarnell I said that ppl where raiding with multiple alts. Logs are not account based they are character based.
stop the idea of classic + common move forward they wont do a classic + only ofr 10k ppl, at least we gonna keep play SoD TBC, but stop asking for classic, im gonna laft alot when april 25 came out and no news about classic +. so stop baiting ppl pls
Sir, farming tutor so I can get 600k gold in two days, please
On what?
Sucks as it may be for some. Classic Plus needs to have a cash shop.
That would be a sign wow was serious about keeping a second classic version of wow, running against their classic progressive version of wow.
One ticket gets you on all the wow rides. No cash shop means no added profits for Blizz. And no added love for that version of wow's playerbase.
With CATA, being CATA, and SoD, ending in a whimper.
The new generation, newer??... less old generation? Have nowhere to go but retail for more of that sweaty gaming feelgoods that SoD and Incs got them addicted to.
We all figured SoD was our gateway drug to Classic Plus. But maybe blizz pulled another fast one and cut it with enough retail for the results they sought.
However it turned out, TWW is blizz's red hot commodity atm. With the og cash shop bringing in the gold.
Make dungeons give less xp
Haha why?
@@Kaghoegaming so people go out and level, not grind dungeons all the way to 60
Need more soy boy thumbnail pics
I didn’t have a good for todays and it’s a diff kinda vid as well
most of this stuff already exists in turtle wow blizz is way to late to the game
No no, that’s there plan, they sue them, take the ideas and call it classic plus!
@@Kaghoegaming I wish them good luck cause of where the servers are hosted and where the owner has the buisness setup in Russia . that is why they were only able to take down their you tube channel. Plus the turtles unreal engine 5 client is gonna be crazy Also I do not think they have the legal reach to shut them down do to relations with the US and Russia. I love your channel though you do present some interesting ideas and conten.
@@layol692k7 While you are correct, they dont have to do much, they could copy everything they have done and call it classic plus, and everyone would play it because its official. Nothing turtle could do and they would lose... Thank you btw, comments like that always make me smile :)
@@Kaghoegaming I am interested to watch the fireworks as long as t wow stays up I will continue to play there they also have one thing no monthly fees Que up the Beer and popcorn I think it may get interesting
Indeed. I don't think Blizzard is capable of doing this anymore. TurtleWoW has the vibe of the original WoW dev team, creating the best experience for gamers and not about the money.
#justcopyrturtlewow
Here to once again let people know that Classic+ is not a thing. It was never and will never be a thing, it doesnt exist. If you want classic+ look into some of the private servers, which are also free.
It will be :)
@@Kaghoegaming NO IT WILL NOT KAG HOE. YOU WILL SEE