Most of the haters are Muay Thai elitest and I hate to say it every MT fight I've seen, the fighter have shit hand skills as well. Plus if your not training in Thailand it's not Muay Thai. Let the hate comments begin
this used to be the most exciting category, with very skillful fighters, but nowadays absolutely everyone fights the same, just side kicks all the time.
Liquidcadmus Nah, they're just trying to be cautious, since these are the finals. Guys like Julio normally try different strategies in the 1st fights. And the thing is normally you'll find the middle fights more interesting that the finals.
@@Heigxion I'm from the 90's generation of TKD, it was different back then. check out tomaz Barada, Stephen Tapilatu, Paul Germain, Hernan Cisternas, Ri Chol Nam, you'll see what I mean. unfortunately the art has devolved instead of improving, and I don't mean to say anything bad about these competitors, I respect them. but the way things are done now have changed a lot from how they used to be.
Liquidcadmus Indeed, that is true. However, fights those days used to be more about strength, rather than speed. Rules adapted a lot since then in order to prevent injuries. I know some people want to be back to the old school way of fighting; which I totally respect that, and I'll admit, sometimes I also want it to be back. However, I think this new school benefict the technique and the speed of the fights, which it prevents you from going on a rampage to attack your opponent; the faster the fights, the less mistakes you can make. That's why some fights may look the same.
In order to get tae quon do into the olimpics they had to more or less outlaw punches meaning the fights are less entertaining to watch worse for self defence and less agressive
@@ivegotbadtaste9181 thats wtf taekwondo, which is a sport. This is ITF Taekwon-Do, the real martial art. Punches are allowed here, to the face and the body.
It's called baiting gentlemen. That little dance/shuffle is to get your opponent's head and have them either defend or attack in anticipation of your next move.
Can someone explain why they got their hands at their waist all the time? At my ITF dojang we used to get scolded for not heaving the guard up by our teacher or get immeadiately punished by a strong punch by the senior students
At a lower level, you're meant to keep your hands up as the kicks are pretty slow meaning they're easy to block But at a higher level, they're more of a burden as simply moving around is much more efficient as it makes your opponent go off balance and allows for a counterattack Holding your hands up high also limits your speed in both movement and kicks; when you have a very fixed guard, you find that you move way less as you focus more on blocking than dodging and repositioning, thus making you an easier target I still have a neutral stance, but instead of the front hand at shoulder height and using fists, I have relaxed palms and my front hand is lower ~the waist to push side kicks so people go off balance, allowing for a punishing counterattack, while the other hand is used to block kicks to the head Also remember kicks are from the legs, and by having the hands ~the waist you can just block it before the legs can go close to you, and momentarily knocking the opponent off balance This is NOT saying you shouldn't have guard ready, you can clearly see at some points in the fight that both fighters have guard up, but its up to the fighters to determine whether they want to go more offensively (giving less focus on the guard and trying to create space to attack) or defensively (usually finding ways to move around or destabilize the opponent) TL:DR Holding your hands up high limits your speed and movement, at higher levels when you're very used to quick combat having them at a lower level allows you to block kicks quicker and allows for more versatility
@@cryptor0012 thanks for the informative answer! It seems I was judging too early. I guess in point fighting it makes more sense, especially in TKD, with the fast kicks and distance control. The sparring at my school is closer to Kickboxing, bc in my country there are few ITF tournaments, which lead us to join WAKO (similar to Kickboxing).
That's similar to mine but because I'm training 1 on 1 with my coach I'm having to fight kickboxers and Muay Thai. You learn to adapt quick or get hit in the face
@@КрасныйВестник-л9х А почему это бои обязаны быть красивыми? Главное это победа, и победителей не судят. Если ты такой дофига умный, и техничный присылай свои спарринги со всякими 540,720,900. Я посмотрю. Хабиб тоже победил Конора тупо лёжа на нём весь бой, но ведь победил.
@Taekwondo invented 1930 ITF style invented in 1959 how can you call WTF full contact if even punches to the head are not allowed? I think both TKD styles are medium/light contact. By the way this was the point of my first question, which was kind of a rhetoric one: since I can t hurt the legs that should not be full contact. I admit it was a vague thought, the first concept of this reply is clearer ("no punching head = no full contact" )
They need a freesparring competition where open hands can be used, you can't even hook a leg with your forearm in this type, it's too artificial and you see the results when these guys go into mma rings knowing a very limited fight. This type seems to be designed to encourage the use of leg kicks to the upper body which is nice and flashy but is only a part of tkd but is still better than the leg fighting you see in wtf where they fall over so often.
Что-то я ничего не понял.чм по тхеквондо итф в 2019 проходил в Болгарии,а тут тоже написано итф, но уже в Германии,или это опять какой-то новый раздел тхеквондо?
То что проходил в Болгарии это Ткд старого образца и техники,конкуренция и уровень соривновании далёк от того что на этом видео,говорю как человек который учавствовал во всех федирациях ИТФ,в целом печально видеть итф так как это бизнесс на данный момент
ITF taekwondo is more traditional and incorporates more punches, less stylish kicks in comparison to WTF. While WTF is nice to look at, ITF tends to relate more to actual combat. But honestly, whether ITF is good depends on who you learn it from. Fighters like these from this video is quite disgraceful to ITF
They are both "bad" as far as a real fight. As in you will learn to but in an inefficient way and not everything you practice will apply directly. Just do kickboxing is the answer if that is your main concern. Same thing with karate and so on. We already figured out something more practical years ago and these older styles have just gotten worse and worse since their glory days have ended sadly. Like even compare wtf tkd of early 2000s to wtf tkd now and the difference is light and day and people were ALREADY making fun of wtf tkd back then haha.
@@Kei-oy9fccurrently learning it and this is nothing like what we do :/ People from my gym regularly win even in kickboxing regionals so it's really weird to see this video cuz it really doesn't resemble what I've gotten used to at all
@Dominus Providebit When people ask that about point fighting it's usually in regards to how hard the contact is allowed to be. Are knockouts permitted, are full strength kicks and punches allowed or will the fighter get warned? There are many different styles and organisations, I come from TSD and the rules are not immediately apparent just from watching.. there's no need to be so prickly, not every question is a veiled 'BUt In UFc' comment :P
@Dominus Providebit full contact as in full contact,theres only 1 definition. Itf has never been full contact,its light contact only in every organization.
Competition rules are different from practical sparring where you're allowed to combo and continue to strike and jab and kick until they hit the ground. In actual tournaments you have to stop everytime you land a hit. (which yes means ITF Taekwando in practical spars is full contact)
Rules of point fighting are very gamey, so people game those rules and a meta strategy always appears.. those at the top usually conform because it has been demonstrated to work 'best' and the risk of not conforming is too great. It kind of sucks but it's the nature of the thing. The more open the rules, the harder it is for any one style to dominate which is why there's a lot more variety in MMA (love it or hate it) since more or less everything is allowed. Old school full contact TKD and Karate used to be a lot more varied and fun to watch.
@@HittokiriBatosai i think he meant freestyle kickboxing, where it's actually the same thing. Literally. They just don't have the uniform and wear long pants instead
@@HittokiriBatosai i think he meant freestyle kickboxing, where it's actually the same thing. Literally. They just don't have the uniform and wear long pants instead
Почему они убегают друг от друга? Когда один атакует то другой поворачивается спиной и убегает? Многие скажут ,что тактика такая! Но я считаю, что они трусы.
Wow. Just wow. You can tell it’s all point based and not full contact. Must take a lot of years worth of hard training to create techniques so useless for real combat. No guard. All the punches were haymakers. Kicking has no follow through and ducking kicks? If this was my old WTF tournies both would have been KOed by their own coaches for ducking like they were. On the plus side though they’re are quite elegant dancers.
Ed Kix agreed! All that wasted hopping around and minimal hand techniques is laughable. This is what makes, or encourages people to laugh at sport. If they were in a street fight, they’d be done.
@@ProfessorBulletMG Yeah, but who seriously thinks they would move like this in a real fight? I do point fighting along with free sparring and full contact.... it's not like you accidentally mix them up....
@@ProfessorBulletMG People don't laugh at sports because of ITF Taekwondo sparring, but they do laugh at those that spout "alpha" drivel such as yourself and Ed. Just leave people be and go smash a wall or something.
@@agnikaineverdies7646 Actually it depends of how close you are from the other competitor. You can easly win a fight with only using your fists. But it's obviusly more effective if you go with a kick, that can also be counterattacked with a fist if the other is fast enough. Also, a kick to the head is 3 points, but is not that easy to do it...
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Although it might not be compared to the past it’s still beautiful to watch so y’all should stop hating on it
Beautiful only if u close your eyes
Most of the haters are Muay Thai elitest and I hate to say it every MT fight I've seen, the fighter have shit hand skills as well. Plus if your not training in Thailand it's not Muay Thai. Let the hate comments begin
this used to be the most exciting category, with very skillful fighters, but nowadays absolutely everyone fights the same, just side kicks all the time.
Liquidcadmus Nah, they're just trying to be cautious, since these are the finals.
Guys like Julio normally try different strategies in the 1st fights. And the thing is normally you'll find the middle fights more interesting that the finals.
@@Heigxion I'm from the 90's generation of TKD, it was different back then.
check out tomaz Barada, Stephen Tapilatu, Paul Germain, Hernan Cisternas, Ri Chol Nam, you'll see what I mean.
unfortunately the art has devolved instead of improving, and I don't mean to say anything bad about these competitors, I respect them.
but the way things are done now have changed a lot from how they used to be.
Liquidcadmus Indeed, that is true. However, fights those days used to be more about strength, rather than speed. Rules adapted a lot since then in order to prevent injuries.
I know some people want to be back to the old school way of fighting; which I totally respect that, and I'll admit, sometimes I also want it to be back. However, I think this new school benefict the technique and the speed of the fights, which it prevents you from going on a rampage to attack your opponent; the faster the fights, the less mistakes you can make. That's why some fights may look the same.
In order to get tae quon do into the olimpics they had to more or less outlaw punches meaning the fights are less entertaining to watch worse for self defence and less agressive
@@ivegotbadtaste9181 thats wtf taekwondo, which is a sport. This is ITF Taekwon-Do, the real martial art. Punches are allowed here, to the face and the body.
I have been doing wtf taekwondo for the past 10 years of my life and I now realize that ITF is way more intense and I will probably switch soon.
Американец молодец... очень техничный ... хоть я и за белоруса был, но американец заслужил победу
Julio had great movement and was excellent at striking while on the move. Thank you for sharing.
What’s the name of that dance at 5:05? 😂
😂😂but broo howw cann theyy have -63 wtff bro i dont get it
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@@nikolagojani4250 .. minus .. sign represents .. below sign u idiot 😂 😂.... Dumbass. It's below 63 kg
It's called baiting gentlemen. That little dance/shuffle is to get your opponent's head and have them either defend or attack in anticipation of your next move.
Man i remember getting those hard kicks that almost stopped your breathing..
Can someone explain why they got their hands at their waist all the time? At my ITF dojang we used to get scolded for not heaving the guard up by our teacher or get immeadiately punished by a strong punch by the senior students
At a lower level, you're meant to keep your hands up as the kicks are pretty slow meaning they're easy to block
But at a higher level, they're more of a burden as simply moving around is much more efficient as it makes your opponent go off balance and allows for a counterattack
Holding your hands up high also limits your speed in both movement and kicks; when you have a very fixed guard, you find that you move way less as you focus more on blocking than dodging and repositioning, thus making you an easier target
I still have a neutral stance, but instead of the front hand at shoulder height and using fists, I have relaxed palms and my front hand is lower ~the waist to push side kicks so people go off balance, allowing for a punishing counterattack, while the other hand is used to block kicks to the head
Also remember kicks are from the legs, and by having the hands ~the waist you can just block it before the legs can go close to you, and momentarily knocking the opponent off balance
This is NOT saying you shouldn't have guard ready, you can clearly see at some points in the fight that both fighters have guard up, but its up to the fighters to determine whether they want to go more offensively (giving less focus on the guard and trying to create space to attack) or defensively (usually finding ways to move around or destabilize the opponent)
TL:DR Holding your hands up high limits your speed and movement, at higher levels when you're very used to quick combat having them at a lower level allows you to block kicks quicker and allows for more versatility
@@cryptor0012 thanks for the informative answer! It seems I was judging too early. I guess in point fighting it makes more sense, especially in TKD, with the fast kicks and distance control.
The sparring at my school is closer to Kickboxing, bc in my country there are few ITF tournaments, which lead us to join WAKO (similar to Kickboxing).
That's similar to mine but because I'm training 1 on 1 with my coach I'm having to fight kickboxers and Muay Thai. You learn to adapt quick or get hit in the face
That's my man Julio usa champ. Love the beard!
Это что-то немыслемое!!!! Очень крутой и жутко красивый бой!!! 🤩🤩🤩
Чем?одни юп чаги,беготня,два банделя за весь бой и все
@@КрасныйВестник-л9х А почему это бои обязаны быть красивыми? Главное это победа, и победителей не судят. Если ты такой дофига умный, и техничный присылай свои спарринги со всякими 540,720,900. Я посмотрю. Хабиб тоже победил Конора тупо лёжа на нём весь бой, но ведь победил.
Why is the ITF competitor wearing a WTF style dobok, and not the fold over version, showing its identification with traditional TKD?
If ITF takes full-contact fight and WTF allow punch to the face, than they can unite easily at least in sparring competition.
Does WTF allow punching?
@@claraheadstrong2143 Now WTF allow just for body.
This is not real full contact lol
@Taekwondo invented 1930 ITF style invented in 1959 how can you call WTF full contact if even punches to the head are not allowed? I think both TKD styles are medium/light contact.
By the way this was the point of my first question, which was kind of a rhetoric one: since I can t hurt the legs that should not be full contact. I admit it was a vague thought, the first concept of this reply is clearer ("no punching head = no full contact" )
@@psychopomp4226
Full contact means you are allowed to hird as hard as you want and you can win by KO..WTF is full contact, whereas ITF is not
I remember the good ol' days when no one wore headgear in international competitions and hands were actually utilized
Can you not punch in taekwondo
Ok thank you I was just wondering because when I train in taekwondo we can punch
They need a freesparring competition where open hands can be used, you can't even hook a leg with your forearm in this type, it's too artificial and you see the results when these guys go into mma rings knowing a very limited fight. This type seems to be designed to encourage the use of leg kicks to the upper body which is nice and flashy but is only a part of tkd but is still better than the leg fighting you see in wtf where they fall over so often.
@@Misty8flip in wtf u can punch but only to the body (which isnt always viable)
Что-то я ничего не понял.чм по тхеквондо итф в 2019 проходил в Болгарии,а тут тоже написано итф, но уже в Германии,или это опять какой-то новый раздел тхеквондо?
То что проходил в Болгарии это Ткд старого образца и техники,конкуренция и уровень соривновании далёк от того что на этом видео,говорю как человек который учавствовал во всех федирациях ИТФ,в целом печально видеть итф так как это бизнесс на данный момент
Congratulations🥊🔥
Are these fighter on the red corner from shotokan karate?
ITF Tae-Kwon-Do
Nice move and timing
Love, Love, Love...
Someone tell me the difference between ITF Taekwondo and WTF taekwondo, and if they're both good nowadays or which is better/interesting?
ITF taekwondo is more traditional and incorporates more punches, less stylish kicks in comparison to WTF. While WTF is nice to look at, ITF tends to relate more to actual combat. But honestly, whether ITF is good depends on who you learn it from. Fighters like these from this video is quite disgraceful to ITF
They are both "bad" as far as a real fight. As in you will learn to but in an inefficient way and not everything you practice will apply directly. Just do kickboxing is the answer if that is your main concern. Same thing with karate and so on. We already figured out something more practical years ago and these older styles have just gotten worse and worse since their glory days have ended sadly. Like even compare wtf tkd of early 2000s to wtf tkd now and the difference is light and day and people were ALREADY making fun of wtf tkd back then haha.
@@Kei-oy9fccurrently learning it and this is nothing like what we do :/
People from my gym regularly win even in kickboxing regionals so it's really weird to see this video cuz it really doesn't resemble what I've gotten used to at all
Zero hand skills, randomly kicking see if one lands, stupid dancing by the end.... certainly even itf tkd has lost a lot of its former glory
Una pregunta cómo se llama el de Pax rojos
Transradio TKD Julio Carlos
@@Heigxion graciassss
Hay que atacar para inicio.. Se debe atacar y según conteste el oponente de ataca
God damn it i will never be this fast or strong...
Dude you have a punching ghost and can literally stop time
This isn't full contact, right?
@Dominus Providebit When people ask that about point fighting it's usually in regards to how hard the contact is allowed to be. Are knockouts permitted, are full strength kicks and punches allowed or will the fighter get warned? There are many different styles and organisations, I come from TSD and the rules are not immediately apparent just from watching.. there's no need to be so prickly, not every question is a veiled 'BUt In UFc' comment :P
@Dominus Providebit full contact as in full contact,theres only 1 definition. Itf has never been full contact,its light contact only in every organization.
No, this is non contact lol
@@Lord.Dewa. They're clearly striking each other... so not non-contact is it.
@@notmyname3681 martial arts who has been called non contact is wear a full body protector.
1:43 Дима давай!! 😂
What she say????
@@Brucelee-pv6uf come on!
@@ILoveMyselffffffff to her boyfriend ????
Dice.. Ponme un vasito de leche templada del libano
о привет
06:03 👎. no combined com Taekwondo.
combina com Taekwon-Do
He didn't fight at all. More runner, than fighter. Disgusting
Is ITF taekwondo full or semi contact?
semi (at least competitive of course)
Competition rules are different from practical sparring where you're allowed to combo and continue to strike and jab and kick until they hit the ground. In actual tournaments you have to stop everytime you land a hit. (which yes means ITF Taekwando in practical spars is full contact)
they trained a lot of kick but only sidekick they use..Nonsense
Exactly. Very boring for an uploaded video.
Rules of point fighting are very gamey, so people game those rules and a meta strategy always appears.. those at the top usually conform because it has been demonstrated to work 'best' and the risk of not conforming is too great. It kind of sucks but it's the nature of the thing. The more open the rules, the harder it is for any one style to dominate which is why there's a lot more variety in MMA (love it or hate it) since more or less everything is allowed. Old school full contact TKD and Karate used to be a lot more varied and fun to watch.
What's nonsense is not knowing the difference between a sidekick and a roundhouse
@Taekwondo invented 1930 ITF style invented in 1959 you have a very long name . Lol
@Taekwondo invented 1930 ITF style invented in 1959 its definitely unique
arms up????
Sind bei ITF Tritte an den Hinterkopf erlaubt und werden gewertet? 🤔
Kolja Wendt sind in der Regel nicht erlaubt und werden mit einer Verwarnung gewertet
@@matinxrmi2392 Hätte ich mir auch nicht vorstellen können, danke für die Antwort. Viele Grüße aus Hamburg!
box??? itf ??? or wtf?? wheres the fist???
His movement cancelled out the the height and leg reach advantage. Speed kills
Подскажет кто-нибудь, какой дан у синего участника в первом спарринге?
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Что это было?
So basically this is the same as pointfighting kiclboxing?
Yes, but minus knees and elbows
@@HittokiriBatosai i think he meant freestyle kickboxing, where it's actually the same thing. Literally. They just don't have the uniform and wear long pants instead
@@HittokiriBatosai i think he meant freestyle kickboxing, where it's actually the same thing. Literally. They just don't have the uniform and wear long pants instead
BOTH Fighter are so confident that they BOTH don't need a Guard.
Почему они убегают друг от друга? Когда один атакует то другой поворачивается спиной и убегает? Многие скажут ,что тактика такая! Но я считаю, что они трусы.
Congrats from Camada I hope to face against you one day lo..l
バカかっこいい
খুভ সুন্দর হয়েছে। Very nice
Nice Mr Julio is a legend
Wow. Just wow. You can tell it’s all point based and not full contact. Must take a lot of years worth of hard training to create techniques so useless for real combat. No guard. All the punches were haymakers. Kicking has no follow through and ducking kicks? If this was my old WTF tournies both would have been KOed by their own coaches for ducking like they were. On the plus side though they’re are quite elegant dancers.
Ed Kix agreed! All that wasted hopping around and minimal hand techniques is laughable. This is what makes, or encourages people to laugh at sport. If they were in a street fight, they’d be done.
@@ProfessorBulletMG Yeah, but who seriously thinks they would move like this in a real fight? I do point fighting along with free sparring and full contact.... it's not like you accidentally mix them up....
I have actually seen taekwondo work in fights before just not with all the bouncing
P.S the bouncing is called footwork since your such an expert
@@ProfessorBulletMG People don't laugh at sports because of ITF Taekwondo sparring, but they do laugh at those that spout "alpha" drivel such as yourself and Ed. Just leave people be and go smash a wall or something.
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Why they are wearing gloves; this is not ITF in ITF we use hands give streighit punches and block they are from WTF
they are from ITF, not even close to WT
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I dont understand the scoring system at all
The numbers on the screen are the amount of judges currently favouring the competitor, not the score.
Yeah if u score a kick, u earn 2 points, if u land a punch u score 1, honestly leaning in for a punch is setting ur self up for a kick.
@@TheJsaKim Ah, simple fact which makes all the difference lol. ty.
@@agnikaineverdies7646 Actually it depends of how close you are from the other competitor. You can easly win a fight with only using your fists. But it's obviusly more effective if you go with a kick, that can also be counterattacked with a fist if the other is fast enough.
Also, a kick to the head is 3 points, but is not that easy to do it...
This leg fencing shows why ITF should not excist.
Compared to WTF who do exactly the same thing..?
@Torryn coufal It doesnt fly? The ref calls it, that behaviour is completely down to a lack of control on the competitors part
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Earlene Grove
At IVth Dan shouldn't this Instructor have STOPPED this 2nd Dan BB in the First Round.
Best feet are in this sport.
mmm 😋
Good job Julio. Congratulations. You and Emmanuel still owe me that pic 👍
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7:20 min julio Carlos running
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Idc what anybody says.. this is NOT Tae Kwon Do.. this is SPORT KARATE .. RUclips Ri Chol Nam vs Hwang Su il and you will see REAL Tae Kwon Do
And watch the fighter in the federation of hwang su il he is right now the quality of the fight is way more and better
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Why don’t they just parry,
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SALUDO.. UVO UNAS TECNICAS BUENAS NO FUE MUCHAS.. LO BUENO QUE EL TUBO UNA BUENA RECISTENCIA. EN LO QUE ES MOVIMIENTOS. GOOD JOB JULIO. USA.NYC.
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Dont want to offend anyone,but itf looks boring
It got systematized, people are point fighting even when it's supposed to be full contact, you aren't wrong.
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What s about julio's beard... It s only half cut! Ahahahah
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Белорусс тормоз столько моментов было
Тормоз ты ! А это Дмитрий Валерьевич !
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👊🏻🥋🔥
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Horrible to watch tomaz barada etc where the best in there glory time
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Of course the American throws a kick when the opponents back is turned.
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Oh, this powerfull punches)))
That fight wasn't 4-0
Нах было за ним бегать.
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Американец хорошо бегать умеет, на этом и выйграл в втором раунде