Spotting fake Morgan Dollars

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
  • A few tips on how to spot a fake Morgan Dollar.

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  • @harrisquicksilver6595
    @harrisquicksilver6595 6 лет назад +1

    Dude you hit the nail on the head! most people don't think to do the sound test, but if you drop a silver quarter onto a silver dollar and then drop a silver quarter onto a fake silver dollar, you can definitely hear the difference! That's about one of the only things that they can't fake!!!

  • @rattycaddy
    @rattycaddy 9 лет назад +19

    Great video. Shoulda showed the weight of the fake though.

  • @insaneactor007
    @insaneactor007  11 лет назад +3

    Thanks Greg! It's getting really scary how good the fakes look! Be on the lookout.

  • @davidgolec2826
    @davidgolec2826 5 лет назад +1

    Why did you not put the fake to the scale? Use loop to check for what details? What strength magnet? Stronger magnet the better or at a certain point it's overkill?

  • @ChrisOrban79
    @ChrisOrban79 Год назад

    I bought 6 Morgan Dollars from 1879, 1884, 1885, 1886, 1900 and 1921 and 17 Peace Dollars 1922-1926 here in Germany yesterday in a pawn shop for a total price of €460, which is €20 each, which is €2.45 ​​more than the spot i think the price is ok for all 23 coins 460€ equals 507$
    and 20€ a piece equals 22$ what do you think about the price was it a bargain? how much do the coins cost at your pawn shop in the usa?

  • @Tinstared
    @Tinstared 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video. The new fakes are not magnetized so the magnet test only works on the old fakes not the new ones.

  • @dillanaddington7022
    @dillanaddington7022 8 лет назад +2

    I see you have a SilverTowne ingot! are you from Winchester? Thats my home town!

  • @gregwilliams852
    @gregwilliams852 11 лет назад +3

    wow china seems to be better at making fakes than they are at making real products (i.e. everything) - I picked the wrong one btw, they even fake the wear and tear you would expect to see. - However, it would be good for a decoy stack or safe. I mainly stack but i do collect morgans and peace dollars. Really hard to find in Australia. Thanks for the vid I learnt something and really enjoyed it thanks :-)

  • @jeffw1267
    @jeffw1267 4 года назад +1

    I'd like to see you stack all the coins like they were in a roll, and compare the reeding. You'd see some substantial differences. It would be nearly impossible to get the number of reeds and spacing between them and sharpness of the reeds correct for a fake. Maybe impossible for most counterfeiters.

  • @stinkystealthysloth
    @stinkystealthysloth 7 лет назад +10

    Terrible camera work man

  • @middlepath1187
    @middlepath1187 10 лет назад +15

    I wonder how much the fake weighed.

    • @edwardjj4224
      @edwardjj4224 6 лет назад

      Not 26.7 g. for sure

    • @BrownStain_Silver
      @BrownStain_Silver 3 года назад

      This one is probably 20-22 grams. Even Morgan's worn to almost no visible details weigh over 25 grams.

  • @garyk8285
    @garyk8285 Год назад

    Is there a thickness difference on the fake vs real?

  • @oneiota878
    @oneiota878 4 года назад +1

    Turn them all facing the same way so when scanning over them give us a chance to test our visual detection skills. Also, what did the fake one weigh? And were there any inaccuracies in the detail of the coin? Such as the distance between the ‘teeth’ of the border or the way the numerals in the date look or the shape of the engraver’s initial. Additionally, it looks like you have more than one fake there. Consider this: A Super fake: Actually made with Silver and Copper. It sounds the same as a silver dollar; weighs the same, passes the magnet test, passes the magnet slide test, and the ice cube test because well, it IS a real silver dollar. The poor thing suffered an identity crisis midway through its life. See, it was born with an ‘O’, but it always wanted to have a ‘D’, but since they weren’t giving out the ‘D’, a little ‘CC’ had become acceptable. In fact it ended up that having a little ‘O’ was much more better than having a little ‘D’. Sorry, couldn’t resist. Think it can’t happen? Well, look a little closer at your Morgans. I say you already have one. What better way to turn 21.44 grams of silver into $500 - $300,000?

  • @rocky7983
    @rocky7983 8 лет назад

    I would like to know where you bought the book, the title and author and the price you paid for the handy coin book. Thanks you did a wonderful job explaining fake coin.

  • @ericyang8474
    @ericyang8474 10 лет назад +5

    If you really paid face value ($10) for ten morgans, you made a huge profit regardless. And you now you used the fake morgan for educational purposes, so even that got to good use.

    • @jeffw1267
      @jeffw1267 7 лет назад

      Even if only one of the ten was real he would have still made a profit.

    • @Bike_Lion
      @Bike_Lion 6 лет назад

      I think he meant to say that he paid melt value, which is well under what Morgans - even average circulated Morgans - typically go for.

    • @oneiota878
      @oneiota878 4 года назад

      I think he meant to say he paid BOOK VALUE. Around $32 apiece.

  • @MrJayaustin
    @MrJayaustin 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the info. Great video

  • @aidencassidy77
    @aidencassidy77 7 лет назад +1

    I dont understand why someone would use an easily detectable metal to fake a rare valuable coin. If they had used silver it would be very difficult to detect. Harsh!

  • @renee1484
    @renee1484 Год назад

    Gm hello so wen stick Morgan's it's fake and wen don't stick its real? Thanks

  • @jakepennyii2814
    @jakepennyii2814 7 лет назад

    It's good to have a well done fake as a reference piece.

  • @LucasNguyen1980
    @LucasNguyen1980 8 лет назад +4

    Wow I actually spotted the fake with just looking at it!?!

  • @Therianpaw23
    @Therianpaw23 10 лет назад +1

    Also with silver bars, the fakes are heavily plated so they pass the weight test, the sound test, the magnet test and the Acid test. The fake miao coins and the fake bars contain copper so they pass the ICE/Thermal test. Sorry for the bad news.

  • @BlueFlamesHD1
    @BlueFlamesHD1 7 лет назад

    Sir I just confused about fake which those morgans. If magnet gets it mean fake? right If magnet didn't cling it mean real?

    • @jeffw1267
      @jeffw1267 7 лет назад

      No, sometimes they are made of plated copper or brass which are not magnetic. Copper or brass will have a lower density than silver, though. If the diameter matches that of a real Morgan then the coin would have to be about 15% thicker in order to weigh the same amount. That is, of course, IF the fake is of proper weight. Best thing is to carry a scale around to weigh the silver dollars you encounter. Among the real silver dollars, even the very worn ones will be close to the 26.73g of an uncirculated dollar. That applies to both Morgan and Peace dollars.

  • @888strummer
    @888strummer 7 лет назад +1

    thanks for excellent video. It really sucks there are more and more fakes. Probably the Chinese? When I buy 90 silver coins on Ebay I stay clear of Morgans and Peace Dollars due to fakes and buy the dimes, quarters and halves which I have never heard of being faked.

  • @robertw9677
    @robertw9677 7 лет назад

    What book di you refer too that had mintage and values thanks

  • @heribertohernandez8308
    @heribertohernandez8308 7 лет назад

    thanks good job for let us this information. and can you tell me what other error can find. thanks.

  • @cototp
    @cototp 3 года назад

    Apparently they making them out of silver now,right weight , size, etc.they used 5% copper, 5%zinc, instead of 10% copper with the silver,that's why u need a metal machine to see what metal they made out of now 😳

  • @BrandonAndrewLocklear
    @BrandonAndrewLocklear 5 лет назад

    How do I know if mine is fake man !!! Immune weighs 25.7 grams and it pings but don’t weigh right

  • @notny41
    @notny41 6 лет назад

    I want to know what flea markets you are going to if you are paying $1 a piece for these..

  • @robertoataya3127
    @robertoataya3127 5 лет назад

    The coins of the year 1894 does the magnetic tickets in it???

  • @maxwalker1159
    @maxwalker1159 11 лет назад

    Nice vid really helped me with spotting fakes

  • @BrentsCardsAndCoins
    @BrentsCardsAndCoins Год назад

    It is a decent fake, but once you started panning over the coins, it was easy to spot.

  • @greta242
    @greta242 10 лет назад

    Wow! Thank you so much. Do you have other videos of how to tell other fake US coins? Thank you for the info,

  • @josephcliff1951
    @josephcliff1951 5 лет назад +1

    Face value for all those?! Jesus did you give the guy a blindfold?!

  • @AuctionHUSTLE24
    @AuctionHUSTLE24 10 лет назад

    Great video, thank you for posting!

  • @Revealthefactsbpsolanki3456
    @Revealthefactsbpsolanki3456 6 лет назад

    🙏 Thanks for informative video 🙏

  • @james-ww3ot
    @james-ww3ot 4 года назад

    I have an 1878 that weighs in at 26.52 but has a little wear on it. it's actually good to maybe very good detail on it. I just can't wrap my head around it if it's real or a fake and i'm going by what it weighs in at.

    • @onedollasnake
      @onedollasnake 3 года назад

      My 1890 o is comepltly real (even checked by cams just to make extra sure it’s real) and it checks out but it weighs 26.5 grams as well it’s to be expected that it looses some weight as it wears as long as it checks out with the cams for the year and mintamrk of that coin it is real

    • @vicuocoilanhungchuyeni8125
      @vicuocoilanhungchuyeni8125 3 года назад

      I have 1888 One do andit's woht no?

  • @myclubwagon
    @myclubwagon 7 лет назад

    great video ..... what about about using the loop?

  • @jeffw1267
    @jeffw1267 7 лет назад

    I've seen fakes that weigh as little as 19g, and you should be able to spot those just by holding one in your hand. A 30% difference in weight is obvious. Even if the fake is something like 23g you should still be able to tell the difference. Just keep a real Morgan in your wallet (each weighs 26.73g) and you can hold the real one in one hand and the dollar to be tested in the other, and compare them. Of course it would be easier to carry an electronic scale in your pocket when silver hunting.

  • @BrownStain_Silver
    @BrownStain_Silver 3 года назад

    Iron has a low density. If you weighed it prior to purchase it would have come in around 75% of a real morgan or noticeably oversized.

  • @KirksCORNER1983
    @KirksCORNER1983 5 лет назад +1

    And that is why I BUY "MY" CC Morgan Dollar's PCGS or NGC GRADED!!!!.....

    • @oneiota878
      @oneiota878 4 года назад

      If they can fake a minted silver coin, why couldn’t they fake a plastic box?

  • @bluedude2246
    @bluedude2246 6 лет назад

    So have a question. I have a Morgan that’s OBVIOUSLY fake. It’s double sided and in almost perfect condition, by double I mean the Morgan face is on both side of the coin. Why in the world would they make this coin so obviously fake? I mean, it looks exactly like an original coin but double sided. I didn’t buy though, my parents randomly gave it to me.

    • @victorbrunswick
      @victorbrunswick 5 лет назад

      It's most likely a gimmicked coin used for a magic trick. You can find double headed and double tailed coins at magic shops.

  • @DetectorLuke
    @DetectorLuke 8 лет назад

    hi i have a morgan dollar from 1880 my dad got it from some one it has a o mint mark and its a mint state condition i did some testes it past all of them but the only thing i saw was a small very small m under morgans neck is that normal or not. please let me know thanks

    • @jrodproductionstudios9587
      @jrodproductionstudios9587 8 лет назад

      Yes it is normals as that is the designers initials. That's why they call it a Morgan Silver Dollar, not because the lady in it is named Morgan, it's Miss Liberty. The designer was Morgan hence getting the name.

    • @jrodproductionstudios9587
      @jrodproductionstudios9587 8 лет назад

      And the O on the reverse signifies that it is minted in New Orleans.

  • @rafoelmulokandov6575
    @rafoelmulokandov6575 Год назад

    I have this coins but it’s 22.2 grams How I can test this real or fake

  • @misterTVman
    @misterTVman 4 года назад

    The flea market seller knew he was selling you a fake, that's why he only charged you face value. If it was a real Carson City he would have sold it for much more, dealers know the value of coins, that's their business to know. He still did you dirty in selling it to you though.

  • @timbaltutan
    @timbaltutan 4 года назад

    The fake one sounded like an Ike dollar lol

  • @7gmang
    @7gmang 8 лет назад

    why did you point the fake dollar fast so we could move on

  • @meteoman7958
    @meteoman7958 6 лет назад

    They would be smart to use real 90% silver to make those CC fakes. They still would make a lot of money and it would be much harder to spot them. Hey, maybe they already do, and we just don't know.

  • @ronpettrey8871
    @ronpettrey8871 3 года назад

    What do u mean u paid face value? Maybe I heard wrong but I'm figuring u definitely didnt get the morgans for $1 each

  • @ebonykirkland1452
    @ebonykirkland1452 4 года назад

    What if i can see it says copy on the back under the eagle

  • @AlmostCirculated1
    @AlmostCirculated1 10 лет назад

    More than likely that dealer knew that CC was a fake, or they are just completely clueless.... If he knew what melt value was I'm guessing he knew.

  • @tinovanderzwanphonocave544
    @tinovanderzwanphonocave544 7 лет назад +1

    the Chinese coins made today, .. they no longer stick to magnets that were the old deal now they are the same weight they don't attract to magnets and lower value mintage is also made the only way to identify is an acid test also 2 identical coins with absolute identical wear is a clue

    • @onedollasnake
      @onedollasnake 3 года назад

      There’s a few ways checking one against a real piece is a good way 90% silver fakes exist and the acid test would be useless against those but checking against a real would reveal its more than likely a poor strike compared to a real one

  • @insaneactor007
    @insaneactor007  11 лет назад

    Thanks Max! Lookout for the fakes.

  • @petericeman100
    @petericeman100 4 года назад

    The seller knew.

  • @chanthanung6522
    @chanthanung6522 2 года назад

    I've got one dollar coin
    pluribus unum
    United states of America
    1886
    1885
    1888
    O
    Steel
    Is it fake or real

  • @dondesnoo1771
    @dondesnoo1771 5 лет назад

    I don't understand why they wouldn't make them out of silver if there rare dates . Since visual quality is good .?

  • @michaelpugh4894
    @michaelpugh4894 4 года назад

    Good video. I wrote it all down. Thanks.

  • @henryshockem9242
    @henryshockem9242 2 года назад +1

    too Slow....

  • @cpoau4534
    @cpoau4534 8 лет назад

    Good information Thanks

  • @dave8436
    @dave8436 10 лет назад

    my issuse is a fake morgan that isnt made of steel i can feel the weight of the coin is different to my other 1921 morgan dollar... what too do to be honest

  • @robinminor265
    @robinminor265 7 лет назад

    Does anybody know if amazon sales fake stuff?

  • @mikesolo1533
    @mikesolo1533 7 лет назад

    Thanks 4 the posting!
    I was looking for details in the coin itself to spot a fake.

  • @robertoataya3127
    @robertoataya3127 5 лет назад

    I have three of this coins year 1894

  • @chrism9468
    @chrism9468 7 лет назад

    report it to secret service.

  • @MrChinesee
    @MrChinesee 7 лет назад

    So i recently got a 1921 morgan dollar coin and it weighed 38.5 grams but wasn't magnetic. Is this fake?

  • @skiboyscuba
    @skiboyscuba 9 лет назад

    Thank u

  • @MUSTANG96CSR
    @MUSTANG96CSR 8 лет назад

    fascinating

  • @helmuthoess3737
    @helmuthoess3737 4 года назад

    i liked the video. but you should weight the coin to.

  • @imeldarigor2053
    @imeldarigor2053 4 года назад

    Fake is get the magnet

  • @mikeforcerer8537
    @mikeforcerer8537 7 лет назад

    I spotted the fake! lol

  • @pantin_enrique
    @pantin_enrique 8 лет назад

    thank you for the education. probably could be helpful to have the camera in tripod to allow less movement and easier focus of the images.

  • @Therianpaw23
    @Therianpaw23 10 лет назад

    I purposefully purchased a lot of 20 fake Miao morgans. Year 1883 so very common. No mint mark - so not San Fran or Carson city. The weight is on spot. The dimensions are on spot. The drop test sound is on spot. They pass the magnet test. The lot on ebay cost me 30 dollars with free shipping. The day I purchased mine, approximately 3-5 hundred other miao morgans and similar coins were sold in roughly the same price range. miao silver is an alloy of silver, copper and nickel so they may also pass the Stannic Acid test. Everyone's only hope is that with the Stannic Acid test, the fakes give you a green versus brown result. I will check this out myself . Either way, the majority of people do not walk around with a dropper bottle of Stannic Acid. Happy coin collecting.

  • @EnjoyableHearts
    @EnjoyableHearts 5 лет назад

    that theres an honest seller some were in the us that he have fake coins but dont sell them

  • @allancabardo
    @allancabardo Год назад

    I have one real silver coin dollar MORGAN "O"

  • @MetalBum
    @MetalBum 5 лет назад

    Nice any in my videos fake? I got about 100 Morgan’s

  • @jofinsky8400
    @jofinsky8400 7 лет назад

    annoying autofocus not working

  • @المشاغبينوليدوهديلزكريا

    عندي دولار مورغان فضه للبيع تاريخ 1921 انا في تركيا

  • @glasymedina233
    @glasymedina233 4 года назад

    We have 3 coins thats

  • @raw7803
    @raw7803 7 лет назад

    My 1885 Morgan dollar weighs 26.5 grams it's real right?

    • @onedollasnake
      @onedollasnake 6 лет назад

      ObLiViOn yes if it’s worn a bit but if it’s in pretty good to perfect condition I would test it

  • @mdnuruzzaman3454
    @mdnuruzzaman3454 2 года назад

    I, have 1884

  • @michaelwatson1326
    @michaelwatson1326 4 года назад

    Hold the camera still