Thanks so much for waiting and watching. We've got lots more in the works. and will try to get them out a little faster. We've been busy splitting out our ATV and UTV websites and channels.
Yeah you bet! I appreciate the fact that you guys still put a lot into your sport quad reviews, and I can't tell you how many times I've watched the 450 MX shootout just because of how much information is there. It'd be cool to see an LTR build, heck I've got one in my garage you can test haha
Haspin is my favorite place to ride! 100's of miles of trails, a motorcross track, an oval track and a supercross track, oh and a drag strip, you can't get any better!
its come a long way since my 05 even it was awesome then. Broke the frame though, rear shock came up through the seat and it was just after warrenty. Yamaha still covered it for me! Id buy a new one in a heart beat if my back could handle it! Great video!
I have a 2014 yfz450r have the same set up beside have full set of nerf bars and beadlocks other them that same quad and does very well placed this year at nationals 10th Over all on stock suspension A+ to the 2014
could you guys do a budget second hand quad bike project. because a lot of people are looking to get into quad racing but can't afford a brand new bike. cheers
What the request for a lot of projects like this, we wonder how many of our viewers would be willing to join a Patreon account for our channel to help funded the purchasing of these used machines for us to build?
I had owned yfz450r '11, it had almost same build: just pipe+ pcV, nerfs, guards and thats all. But on the track it doesnt rip. Most of all becouse of suspension- without stabilizer, shocks, steering stem, soft bar - its too hard to keep in hands. Yes, you can ride fast, jump all tables, but not really long. 3-5 min and your arms are absolutly dead. While on same track you can ride on mx bike 15-25 min for same phisical stress.
Anton Nikitin We've spent a lot of time tuning these shocks and have them working rather well. We wonder how many people buy aftermarket shocks these days and go backwards in performance. For a fast guy at the nationals, well setup aftermarket shocks may help, bur for most racers, it isn't necessary, especially if you think you have to have them to compete. A steering stabilizer would be our next addition after the parts we added in this build. Thanks for watching.
Youth racing is till like how racing was in the 90's. People are either forced to spend 15k+ for a 250 hybrid quad or spend at least 5k upgrading a ltz400 or trx400ex. If a manufacturer makes a yfz450r type quad but with a 250 or 400 motor than it would revolutionize the youth racing scene
So what about in 2006 when Suzuki released the ltr? It came with wider a arms and fuel injection. Plus to get 7 more horse out of it all you had to do was buy a Yoshimura cherry bomb($30) Remove the airbox lid and remove the baffle out of the exhaust. Then all you had to do was throw a set of nerfs on there and a tether and there you go. The Suzuki was also quite a bit cheaper than the yfz. New ltrs around here were around the $7200 whereas the Yamaha was closer to $8000. So for $7700 your quad was ready to win. You guys never stated how much you actually put into the quad. I understand it may be because of fluctuating prices due to location. I'm not trying to start any fights or anything like that just bringing up a point. Also look at it this way, you have to pay more for the gytr stuff and the r version of the x where Suzuki has one ltr. So like I said. im just bringing up a point and was curious about it.
Biggest question, is your carbureted YFZ still the stock with and if so do you think you would benefit from having a wider more stable machine? Feel free to follow up if you like and thanks for the subscription!
@@ATVonDemand good call, No it is not the stock width. Only thing left I can do to it is bore it out and I would prefer to not do that. I was just wondering if there were any other advantages to getting fuel injection.
If you buy a 2014 or 2015 you have to spend around 1000$ to get rid of the "bog" just google it, you'll need a vortex programmer/ECU 700$, full exhaust 300-500, and an intake, FCI is the the best, 250$
A msd blaster or power commander (pcv) will work too, both 300-400$ but the vortex isn't a piggyback controller like them, it's like a new ECU and much better although expensive
Hey I have the same pipe and power commander on my 2014 yfz450r. I am getting that same bottom end bog. Can u tell me what map u used on the power commander to eliminate the bog.
For now we are using the map that came with the Power Commander for the full GYTR pipe and filter. It got rid of most of the hesitation. We plan on trying out the map written for the Two Brothers slip-on exhaust and the air box lid removed, to see how it works.
Is it normal for the exhaust header to have a glow at night? Yoshimura told me it was fine as long as I don't see the glow in the day time It only does it at night when I let it sit and idle.
We've seen it on our machines. Just make sure that your machine isn't hesitating at higher RPMs, or backfiring on deceleration. These could be signs that the engine is running lean and needs additional fuel. If you added an aftermarket exhaust and didn't add a fuel programmer you may be running bit lean.
I have a power commander v on it. Set on the map for it, running very strong the glow at night was just a concern. I feel better now thanks for responding.
What are the suspension setting on this yfz? Like how many turns on high speed compresion, how many clicks on low speed and rebound and how much pre-load?
hey i have a power commander v on my yfz450r and i just installed a powerbomb header and muffler. it shoots a little bit of flames if i rev it and was just wondering how do i re map them that part really confuses me.
You will need to hook your PCV up to a laptop computer to reprogram it. Or you could call a motor builder like DASA and ask them if they will sell you their map for your ATV. With your ATV's year, make, and model Dan should be able to get you a map that will perform pretty well. Or you could ask FMF if they have any support.
+Anthony Schmidt depends on your definition of race ready. my best advice is to get ahold of some front shocks that do have reservoirs, and then send them out with your rear shock and have them revalved. that will be dollar per dollar the best value and most important mod. after that, tires obviously. a 8" beadlock in rear. 19" in back 20" up front. then maybe a 13:1 piston and have 4 stroke tech port the head.
david salcedo no, we did not use an ECU. If memory serves correctly, I believe this was a 20 15 unit. With a Yamaha the biggest problem is low and hesitation. We manage to get rid of about 95% of it with the tuner.. please set us back with any questions you may have.
Nstrikers we're not exactly sure why people feel that way anymore. Most trails are 50 in wide and many are being cut 6264 in wide these days for side by sides. Do we really still need sport quads in the 46 inch wide range?
"One of the main reasons people are worried about racing is the cost. We're out here racing on less than $10000." Yeah, because everyone has $10000 to just go out and buy a brand new quad and race. Most people don't have $3000 to go buy a quad and get it ready for race day...
+marinesniper195 Money is harder to come by. That was the point of this build. Its funny that now we've been criticized by those who thin k our machine isn't expensive enough and now you think its too expensive. If you want to race a new machine, this is about as affordable as it gets. If no one buys new machines and no one builds them anymore, used machine prices will go through the roof. We remember when ragged out 250Rs were selling for 5k back in the 90s.
+ATVonDemand I have a 2008 yfz 450 with a high comp piston at 13.5:1 elka shocks hot rod crank full hmf exhaust ambush tires pro taper bars new starter and solonoid new battery! but it still bogs at the low rpms a little what should I do to fix that?
I dont need a trail in the forest in our country we have desert I can play their what ever I want I have number1 selling sport atv on planet it's called yamaha raptor 700R SPECIAL EDITION 2015
Lack of turnout is a sure way to get promoters to drop ATV classes. Three wheeler clubs get together and get promoters to allow them to add classes at motocross events. Its a matter of getting sufficient numbers and working with promoters. Running ATVs at the end of the program means we wouldn't mess up the track for bikes, which is another big reason for quads being banned. The most important thing is to go out ad ride and support the people who support ATV riding and racing.
One strange one for a person who already owns a yfz450r this is very much a budget build . Back in 1998 dirt Wheels took a stock 400EX and turned it into a Motocross ready machine. Their budget for that build was $10,000, the same budget that we used for this build. Fact is, this yfz450r would beat that machine for the same amount of money 20 years later. Of course, you could buy a raged-out used race bike for far less.
Fox250R Its not about the exhaust, its about the fuel mixture. We recently used an HMF fuel optimizer, tuned it, and had good results, with no bog. It is the second fuel management system we have used. Both it and the Power Commander we used in this test both came too lean off the bottom and needed a good amount more fuel added at lower RPMs.
Dude I've just been waiting for a new ATV On Demand video, you guys do the best and most extensive reviews.
Thanks so much for waiting and watching. We've got lots more in the works. and will try to get them out a little faster. We've been busy splitting out our ATV and UTV websites and channels.
Yeah you bet! I appreciate the fact that you guys still put a lot into your sport quad reviews, and I can't tell you how many times I've watched the 450 MX shootout just because of how much information is there. It'd be cool to see an LTR build, heck I've got one in my garage you can test haha
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Great video!! I'm picking up a 2016 yfz450r in a couple days can't wait to rip on it!!!!
Nice. Hope you stick with the sport ATVs! I have for 30yrs!
Haspin is my favorite place to ride! 100's of miles of trails, a motorcross track, an oval track and a supercross track, oh and a drag strip, you can't get any better!
its come a long way since my 05 even it was awesome then. Broke the frame though, rear shock came up through the seat and it was just after warrenty. Yamaha still covered it for me! Id buy a new one in a heart beat if my back could handle it! Great video!
The new '21s are awesome. Get one!
I have a 2014 yfz450r have the same set up beside have full set of nerf bars and beadlocks other them that same quad and does very well placed this year at nationals 10th Over all on stock suspension A+ to the 2014
I live about 45 minutes from haspin. Go there all the time that's crazy!
MrKyle513 Fun place to ride.
Still the best thing out there I think
could you guys do a budget second hand quad bike project. because a lot of people are looking to get into quad racing but can't afford a brand new bike. cheers
What the request for a lot of projects like this, we wonder how many of our viewers would be willing to join a Patreon account for our channel to help funded the purchasing of these used machines for us to build?
@@ATVonDemand Whats your budget or goal?
@@ATVonDemand build a older yfz450 you can find them for around 1500-2000.
Love my 2019 yfz450r se!
Love the videos, keep them coming, especially 450R related 😬
We shall! Subscribe so you don't miss any and thanks for watching.
ATVonDemand I've been subbed for years, most informative atv channel out there 👍🏼
I had owned yfz450r '11, it had almost same build: just pipe+ pcV, nerfs, guards and thats all. But on the track it doesnt rip. Most of all becouse of suspension- without stabilizer, shocks, steering stem, soft bar - its too hard to keep in hands. Yes, you can ride fast, jump all tables, but not really long. 3-5 min and your arms are absolutly dead. While on same track you can ride on mx bike 15-25 min for same phisical stress.
Anton Nikitin We've spent a lot of time tuning these shocks and have them working rather well. We wonder how many people buy aftermarket shocks these days and go backwards in performance. For a fast guy at the nationals, well setup aftermarket shocks may help, bur for most racers, it isn't necessary, especially if you think you have to have them to compete. A steering stabilizer would be our next addition after the parts we added in this build. Thanks for watching.
ATVonDemand Can a 250lb rider utilize the stock suspension too?
Youth racing is till like how racing was in the 90's. People are either forced to spend 15k+ for a 250 hybrid quad or spend at least 5k upgrading a ltz400 or trx400ex. If a manufacturer makes a yfz450r type quad but with a 250 or 400 motor than it would revolutionize the youth racing scene
Very true. We've been meaning to film a test on one of those 13k hybrids.
Dají se koupit, u nás jsou to super
its always goin to expensive but most ppl can change suspension parts themselves saving money not having to go straight to motor builder
So what about in 2006 when Suzuki released the ltr? It came with wider a arms and fuel injection. Plus to get 7 more horse out of it all you had to do was buy a Yoshimura cherry bomb($30) Remove the airbox lid and remove the baffle out of the exhaust. Then all you had to do was throw a set of nerfs on there and a tether and there you go. The Suzuki was also quite a bit cheaper than the yfz. New ltrs around here were around the $7200 whereas the Yamaha was closer to $8000. So for $7700 your quad was ready to win. You guys never stated how much you actually put into the quad. I understand it may be because of fluctuating prices due to location. I'm not trying to start any fights or anything like that just bringing up a point. Also look at it this way, you have to pay more for the gytr stuff and the r version of the x where Suzuki has one ltr. So like I said. im just bringing up a point and was curious about it.
400exGuy821 That bike set the 450 class on fire. Invented the "R" 50" class.
the Suzuki ltr is the modern day trx250r . when champions like digger Doug gust and Jeremiah jones gives them that name theres no denying
The Yamaha was assembled in Georgia. I'll pay $600 more for that.
asome video keeping coming l like Yamahas...
Great video! Liked and subscribed! Is it really worth upgrading to a EFI 2009+ yfz from my 2006 yfz carb model?
Biggest question, is your carbureted YFZ still the stock with and if so do you think you would benefit from having a wider more stable machine? Feel free to follow up if you like and thanks for the subscription!
@@ATVonDemand good call, No it is not the stock width. Only thing left I can do to it is bore it out and I would prefer to not do that. I was just wondering if there were any other advantages to getting fuel injection.
Wow, ATVonDemand has some awesome content... Thanks guys!!! Sub'd
Hell yeah! Thanks for the sub.
1:50 looks like that yfz is following you
Keep it up Yamaha🔥
I would still say the most awesome atv Yamaha made was the banshee
GREAT video!
+SMITERIUSZ RYCERIUSZ Thanks!!!
There is what the movie really is a PROfessional.
How does budget project, and yamaha 450r gytr even make it into the same sentence?
Is there any age restriction or classes to race these?
I'm 13 and just got a 2008 Yamaha raptor 250 special edition
Same age just that i have 660 raptor
Bruh why a 250?😂I ride a 2017 Raptor 700r😂
Im10 I have a raptor 700r 2006 I got it 2years ago
cool
That's too small for you my dude...
If you buy a 2014 or 2015 you have to spend around 1000$ to get rid of the "bog" just google it, you'll need a vortex programmer/ECU 700$, full exhaust 300-500, and an intake, FCI is the the best, 250$
A msd blaster or power commander (pcv) will work too, both 300-400$ but the vortex isn't a piggyback controller like them, it's like a new ECU and much better although expensive
1:47 Yes, yes I am.
Hey I have the same pipe and power commander on my 2014 yfz450r. I am getting that same bottom end bog. Can u tell me what map u used on the power commander to eliminate the bog.
For now we are using the map that came with the Power Commander for the full GYTR pipe and filter. It got rid of most of the hesitation. We plan on trying out the map written for the Two Brothers slip-on exhaust and the air box lid removed, to see how it works.
YAMAHA RULES !
46yfz fuck yeah it does
46yfz shnpokeryuercll
They do they can even out macht a banshee if you bored to 680.
When you add a power commander how do you remove the stock fuel controller? Or does it do it automatically?
Need help
Buying a 2008 limited edition yzf 450
Just need tips what to look out for thanks
Is it normal for the exhaust header to have a glow at night? Yoshimura told me it was fine as long as I don't see the glow in the day time It only does it at night when I let it sit and idle.
We've seen it on our machines. Just make sure that your machine isn't hesitating at higher RPMs, or backfiring on deceleration. These could be signs that the engine is running lean and needs additional fuel. If you added an aftermarket exhaust and didn't add a fuel programmer you may be running bit lean.
I have a power commander v on it. Set on the map for it, running very strong the glow at night was just a concern. I feel better now thanks for responding.
What are the suspension setting on this yfz? Like how many turns on high speed compresion, how many clicks on low speed and rebound and how much pre-load?
Sorry, we don't have the settings recorded from this test.
So did you guys stick with the stock filter or switched to a high flow filter?
We stuck with the stock air filter and left the airbox lid off. We do not recommend cotton style filters for fine dusty conditions.
Could you tell us exactly what EPA restrictions you removed please? Was it just the pipe and Fuel controller? What about the AIS? Thank you.
The exhaust and the stock fuel map are the restrictions we were referring to. We removed the air-box lid as well.
ATVonDemand didn't touch the Air induction system by chance?
Not on this project. Perhaps in the future.
Huh
We removed the corked up stock silencer and added a fuel controller to replace the stock fuel map, which runs clean, but holds back power.
when would you show us the 700r 2016 ?
Awesome.
Yfz450 🇯🇵👍👍👍👍👍
hey i have a power commander v on my yfz450r and i just installed a powerbomb header and muffler. it shoots a little bit of flames if i rev it and was just wondering how do i re map them that part really confuses me.
it has a fmf 4.1 muffler sorry
You will need to hook your PCV up to a laptop computer to reprogram it. Or you could call a motor builder like DASA and ask them if they will sell you their map for your ATV. With your ATV's year, make, and model Dan should be able to get you a map that will perform pretty well. Or you could ask FMF if they have any support.
Wait so what exactly holds back the engines full potential on the yfz?
The exaust system
How much would I have to put into a kfx 400 to make it race ready
For motocross or cross country? Do your front shocks have piggyback reservoirs or not?
ATVonDemand for motocross, my shocks do not have piggyback reservoirs
+Anthony Schmidt depends on your definition of race ready. my best advice is to get ahold of some front shocks that do have reservoirs, and then send them out with your rear shock and have them revalved. that will be dollar per dollar the best value and most important mod. after that, tires obviously. a 8" beadlock in rear. 19" in back 20" up front. then maybe a 13:1 piston and have 4 stroke tech port the head.
amazing
Ok thank you
Did u guys need an ecu for the exhaust?
david salcedo no, we did not use an ECU. If memory serves correctly, I believe this was a 20 15 unit. With a Yamaha the biggest problem is low and hesitation. We manage to get rid of about 95% of it with the tuner.. please set us back with any questions you may have.
ATVonDemand ok thank you very much
david salcedo our pleasure.
Sucks in trails though if you want a 450 get an 07 or any older one they are not that wide
Nstrikers we're not exactly sure why people feel that way anymore. Most trails are 50 in wide and many are being cut 6264 in wide these days for side by sides. Do we really still need sport quads in the 46 inch wide range?
Need more yamaha banshee vids
An can am ds 450 would be racing under 9000 dollars. 45 hp stock grate exhaust and fox shocks can am is the best quad for racing and not to expensive
The Can-Am is no longer available. It had a lot of great features for the money for sure, but it suffered from a number of reliability issues.
Amazing 😁👌
I live in Newnan GA
Where can I start racing in midwestetern usa
Where do you live?
guys whats the difference between a yfz450, yfz450r and a yfz450se?
Yfz450 is the base model, yfz450r us the racing model, and the yfz450se is the special edition (fancy plastics)
What year is the oldest year for fuel injected yfzs
Without looking it up, I believe it was 2009.
"One of the main reasons people are worried about racing is the cost. We're out here racing on less than $10000." Yeah, because everyone has $10000 to just go out and buy a brand new quad and race. Most people don't have $3000 to go buy a quad and get it ready for race day...
+marinesniper195 Money is harder to come by. That was the point of this build. Its funny that now we've been criticized by those who thin k our machine isn't expensive enough and now you think its too expensive. If you want to race a new machine, this is about as affordable as it gets. If no one buys new machines and no one builds them anymore, used machine prices will go through the roof. We remember when ragged out 250Rs were selling for 5k back in the 90s.
dope
Nice. Sucks that they sell them off the floor so choked down. No one buys one and leaves the stock exhaust. That'd just be silly. 🤷🏼♂️
Agreed. They have to choke them down to make them EPA compliant for off-road use though.
so tell me are the newer yfz 450's fuel injected?
yes
+ATVonDemand I have a 2008 yfz 450 with a high comp piston at 13.5:1 elka shocks hot rod crank full hmf exhaust ambush tires pro taper bars new starter and solonoid new battery! but it still bogs at the low rpms a little what should I do to fix that?
+GOPRO MX also open air box lid and stage 1 Hot cam
im not saying that this will work but im pretty sure,some kind of power commander will fix it
+GOPRO MX
What is the name of bike at is shown at 0:55
KFX450R
wat year is this bike i wann get 2016
sam ochoa 2014
I dont need a trail in the forest in our country we have desert I can play their what ever I want I have number1 selling sport atv on planet it's called yamaha raptor 700R SPECIAL EDITION 2015
get your hands and bollocks chopped of for going over 20mph
You guys did not mack it legal cause you did not tack off the lists AMA rules
Thanks for watching and commenting. What did we miss, numbers? Nerf bars and a kill switch will cover you at most tracks in our area.
My 04 definitely could not handle whoops like that.
Do this with a blaster
We would love to do a blaster project in the future,
that would be cool. thanks for the reply.
10k is still expensive
or you could get a decked out used on for half that price
Nick Breth a used machine as a great option if you don't have the money for a new one.
10k is not budget. i guess for a new bike but not all of us can afford it
What ist the name of music track ??
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Cyconxc thank you very much
marianwdz No problem
会很贵吗？
wat yeat is it
This was a 2014
$10,000
Yes. So what? Full blown, full reliable race quad. Buy one. Go racing!
Too bad there's nowhere to ride anymore because tracks left and right are banning quads.
Lack of turnout is a sure way to get promoters to drop ATV classes. Three wheeler clubs get together and get promoters to allow them to add classes at motocross events. Its a matter of getting sufficient numbers and working with promoters. Running ATVs at the end of the program means we wouldn't mess up the track for bikes, which is another big reason for quads being banned. The most important thing is to go out ad ride and support the people who support ATV riding and racing.
Hmm budget let's buy a brand new quad
ok
L pool
It's not a motor it's an engine
it's not a fuckin bike!!!
Budget lol
One strange one for a person who already owns a yfz450r this is very much a budget build . Back in 1998 dirt Wheels took a stock 400EX and turned it into a Motocross ready machine. Their budget for that build was $10,000, the same budget that we used for this build. Fact is, this yfz450r would beat that machine for the same amount of money 20 years later. Of course, you could buy a raged-out used race bike for far less.
ruclips.net/video/1PPk_t-_KkU/видео.html NO BOG!
Fox250R Its not about the exhaust, its about the fuel mixture. We recently used an HMF fuel optimizer, tuned it, and had good results, with no bog. It is the second fuel management system we have used. Both it and the Power Commander we used in this test both came too lean off the bottom and needed a good amount more fuel added at lower RPMs.
Love my ltr450 how's the new yfz450r