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  • The NBA MVP Straw Poll & Victor Wembanyama's DOMINANCE for the Spurs 🏀 | NBA Today
    On NBA Today, Richard Jefferson, Brian Windhorst and Chiney Ogwumike discuss the NBA MVP Straw Poll and Victor Wembanyama becoming a dominant NBA player.
    0:00 NBA MVP Straw Poll
    4:46 Wembanyama shows out
    8:05 Criticism for Wemby?
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  • @chrissilman8495
    @chrissilman8495 5 месяцев назад +400

    Chet isn't under pressure, SGA is. I just don't get the Wemby hate. The kid is so fun to watch.

    • @RMASUPERFLY
      @RMASUPERFLY 5 месяцев назад +90

      Because Chet is American hence the push. Had Wemby been American there won't even be a debate about who is ROTY.

    • @tharcisse7103
      @tharcisse7103 5 месяцев назад +39

      Not to mention Chet is 2 years older than Wemby.

    • @iwishiwasthomasshelby
      @iwishiwasthomasshelby 5 месяцев назад +24

      Chet isn’t in the same league as Wemby. Now he’s being game planned by people, he is getting low 10s in scoring. He gets bodied and pushed around. He will get better, but right now? No.

    • @kevinmorganjr2423
      @kevinmorganjr2423 5 месяцев назад

      Y’all can’t be this dumb.. he literally just explained the difference of pressure they’re under. Being the 1 pick vs playing a championship is not the same you 🤡s

    • @cdelbove
      @cdelbove 5 месяцев назад +24

      Richard trying too hard to keep chet relevant in the ROTY race... His arguments are getting worse and worse though...

  • @tharcisse7103
    @tharcisse7103 5 месяцев назад +128

    The Chet argument for ROTY was never even an argument in my book. He's 2 years older than Wemby and is from Paolo Banchero's draft class. If he's gonna get ROTY, he shouldn't even be in a discussion with someone 2 years younger than him. The fact Chet even has to make a case against Wemby tells me he's not the best rookie. That's like being held back 2 years in school and being neck and neck with the smartest kid in your new class. That doesn't merit an award.

    • @michaelmayers3622
      @michaelmayers3622 5 месяцев назад

      Yes it does otherwise why talk nba chet and wemby is basicly the same it don't take away from one it don't add to the other. If u wana discuss team effort that's diff

    • @ericperales4505
      @ericperales4505 4 месяца назад

      Facts couldn't have said it better since when do dumbasses get rewarded for failing the first time at an award...this reminds me of van wilder 😅

    • @ZestyAlone
      @ZestyAlone 4 месяца назад

      Starting off by saying Wemby is my favorite and I'm not a big chet fan. With that being said, the Chet not deserving it because he got drafted the year before is BS. Did he get some advantages off it? Yes, but it doesn't discredit the fact that he's a rookie and he's eligible for the award.

  • @mannyblue82
    @mannyblue82 5 месяцев назад +59

    Why does no one talk about victors passing. The turnovers have to improve but if you watch the game his iq, court vision, and playmaking ability are top 5 amongst centers right now.

  • @philipthavenius9801
    @philipthavenius9801 5 месяцев назад +258

    I'm mind blown by the Luka disrespect.

    • @stevennguyen7794
      @stevennguyen7794 5 месяцев назад +6

      Forreals, I hope mavs make a run to atleast 4th seed

    • @stocksguy4565
      @stocksguy4565 5 месяцев назад +15

      Luka Doncic current stats (1st in scoring) (1st in low post defense) (2nd on three points made) (3rd in assist) (7th in steals) (18th in rebounds) If the Mavericks can finish top 4 in the West then he should finish top 3 in the MVP race with a chance to win it

    • @philipthavenius9801
      @philipthavenius9801 5 месяцев назад

      The stretch they got to the all star performance is statistically easy. Anyway, in my opinion If you are the reason your team isn't the 15th team, but instead 8th with a close call of being a lot higher up, I think you have a clear cut Most valuable player. To me it isn't the MVP of a good team, which it sounds like a lot.@@stocksguy4565

    • @nemajabakic4546
      @nemajabakic4546 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@stevennguyen7794 Bruh 4th is impossible

    • @wangchung2157
      @wangchung2157 5 месяцев назад +2

      FLuka

  • @kevinjordan6182
    @kevinjordan6182 5 месяцев назад +106

    "If Chet was the 1st option he would be better than Wemby" 😂
    I don't understand people who make that excuse. It's literally harder to perform in a team as bad as the Spurs. Wemby at OKC would have more interesting stats. On the other hand, I'm not sure that Chet would perform as well with the Spurs.......
    There's no point in comparing them because the gap is so huge.
    Chet is a great player, while Wemby could become a legend.

    • @lordkaiser1404
      @lordkaiser1404 5 месяцев назад +9

      chet's skillset isn't 1st option skillset..

    • @erich3784
      @erich3784 5 месяцев назад +15

      Richard Jefferson doesn't understand the pressure Victor is under because he's never been a franchise player. But he's been a 2nd/3rd option on good teams like Chet is right now, that's why he can relate to him a lot better.
      Being the top dog and performing takes a special kind of people, especially when you're a rookie discovering the league.

    • @Langustaaa
      @Langustaaa 5 месяцев назад +15

      I don't get how RJ can say Chet has more pressure. Opponents are going at Wemby's throat and I don't see them playing Chet like that. All I see from Chet is wide open 3's or a pump fake and drive. His teammates make the game so much easier for him. There's no pressure for him to score because his teammates can put up big numbers. He is free to just stand on the 3pt line and wait for a kick.

    • @morgan2552t
      @morgan2552t 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@Langustaaa Wemby is smart enough to his team doesn't even have a chance to make the playoffs. Wemby pressure is him trying to be ROTY. There's a difference between him and chet!

    • @kevinmorganjr2423
      @kevinmorganjr2423 5 месяцев назад

      @@erich3784first off, you’re an idiot. He literally explained the difference of pressure they’re under. Wemby is the #1 option on a shitty team. The ball moves through him, ofc he’s gonna get his numbers if he’s first priority. Chet is playing on a team with actual aspirations and gets similar numbers as the second and third option, playing against teams with the same mentality as them

  • @vinmen2024
    @vinmen2024 5 месяцев назад +50

    Victor Wembanyama ROTY no doubt

  • @timetherington-judge3719
    @timetherington-judge3719 5 месяцев назад +168

    I just don't understand the Luka hate. He's having the season of his life and his stats are just nuts.

    • @plugcap2604
      @plugcap2604 5 месяцев назад +10

      8th seed

    • @jackjohnson8244
      @jackjohnson8244 5 месяцев назад +2

      13th in the League....

    • @timetherington-judge3719
      @timetherington-judge3719 5 месяцев назад +18

      @@jackjohnson8244 And on a 5 game streak, so let's see how much they rise. We all know that the media hate Luka, just look at the different coverage of Embiid's 70 (praised as a legendary performance) and Luka's 73 (uniformly blamed the defence).

    • @tompratt7125
      @tompratt7125 5 месяцев назад +4

      He's a terrible defender in spite of some improvement on that end this year. I'd put him him in the bottom 10% of defenders in the league. Hard to win an MVP is you aren't at least a net neutral defensively. Jokic is a slightly above average defender, Shai and Giannis are excellent defenders. That end of the floor counts too.

    • @pung4759
      @pung4759 5 месяцев назад +5

      ⁠@@tompratt7125Harden has multiple mvps

  • @mediamannaman
    @mediamannaman 5 месяцев назад +35

    Luka needs some MVP recognition. (... and I'm a Spurs fan)

    • @MarquisVegan
      @MarquisVegan 5 месяцев назад +1

      I agree and I am also a Spurs fan.

    • @personalday2578
      @personalday2578 5 месяцев назад +1

      Also agree I’m a spurs fan

    • @HARTTG
      @HARTTG 5 месяцев назад +4

      As a Suns fan, this starting to gets really weird. Mavs just blown out the Thunder with NEW lineup and they didn’t even have ANY segment about it. I’m starting to warm up to Luka over the time and looking back I realize no one gave him his credits Embiid scored 70 The praised were booming, when Luka scored 73 with much less freethrows it became a problem etc, sometimes this just doesn’t feels right
      Edit: sorry about the rants,I just have to get this out of my chest

    • @RooseCochran
      @RooseCochran 5 месяцев назад +4

      Glad to see us Spurs fans gathered in one place respecting the intra state persona non grata.

  • @saucetheprophet6208
    @saucetheprophet6208 5 месяцев назад +246

    the disrespect on luka crazy. shai not even better than luka

    • @Jayoplantern
      @Jayoplantern 5 месяцев назад

      Luka is a ball hog cry baby

    • @SatisfactionSC
      @SatisfactionSC 5 месяцев назад +12

      Lol. Higher team and no allstar help. Mvp ranks not whos a better player. Nash was never better than kobe. Chuck was never better than Jordan

    • @adingdingdiiing6740
      @adingdingdiiing6740 5 месяцев назад +10

      Dallas is 8th right now bro. That matters unless he's doing something historic like Russ and his triple double season.

    • @AP90x
      @AP90x 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@adingdingdiiing6740he did something historic in dropping the 3rd most points in a game, hes aldo the leagues leading scorer, is number 7 in steals, is almost averia triple double but unlike Westbrook he is averaging 49% from the field, he is doing everything better than any guy on that list and his team had had the most injuries of any players team on that list.

    • @adingdingdiiing6740
      @adingdingdiiing6740 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@AP90x i get you, but that's not the point. He'll be the scoring champ for sure. But if the Mavs don't climb to at least the 4th spot, he won't be in the running. It's all about the narratives with media votes like the MVP

  • @RMASUPERFLY
    @RMASUPERFLY 5 месяцев назад +57

    Chet started folding the moment Wemby starred him down in their last game vs each other. Wemby hunted him and Chet would not even look Wemby in the eye. That was a predator and prey moment.

    • @patrickamo4676
      @patrickamo4676 5 месяцев назад +2

      For real. Since their match-up, Chet recorded multiple single digit outings.

    • @aa134368
      @aa134368 4 месяца назад

      Yeah RJ is usually good with his takes, he missed with this one. Spurs are awful, wemby far and away makes the bigger impact.

  • @Mr.Thomas_Anderson
    @Mr.Thomas_Anderson 5 месяцев назад +165

    These people can’t even say Luka’s name, it hurts so much

    • @timetherington-judge3719
      @timetherington-judge3719 5 месяцев назад +7

      It's deliberate now.

    • @kurtishair24
      @kurtishair24 5 месяцев назад +4

      Cuz Shai's been better

    • @Swerv_TBZ
      @Swerv_TBZ 5 месяцев назад

      @@kurtishair24how? He’s does nothing better than Luka their deliberately black balling Luka from mvp his numbers are better than Shais and giannis

    • @Mr.Thomas_Anderson
      @Mr.Thomas_Anderson 5 месяцев назад +9

      @@kurtishair24his team has been better* if you ask any GM in the league who they pick, not one of them picks Shai.

    • @francesccampos1343
      @francesccampos1343 5 месяцев назад +9

      @@kurtishair24 SGA got completely outclassed by Luka last night.
      SGA has never scored a statline of what Luka AVERAGES this seasson, they are 2 completely different classes.

  • @prussianblueppt
    @prussianblueppt 5 месяцев назад +118

    Wemby needs to average 50 pts, 20 rebs, 9 ast, 5 blk in RJ's eyes to be ROY. Stop the wemby slander

    • @berryesseen
      @berryesseen 5 месяцев назад +1

      No but he has to be above 0.500 to win the ROTY. Like 65 game rule, 0.500 winrate rule should be brought for every NBA award. It's so stupid to give awards to players who lose.

    • @philippculture489
      @philippculture489 5 месяцев назад +47

      ​@@berryesseenthis is the dumbest statement I've read here. It's Rookie of the year. The worst teams get the best picks in the draft. Rookies are allowed to make mistakes, it's normal. They have to adapt and learn the game. An individual award has nothing to do with team success. The only exception is MVP, because you expect the best player contribute to winning. That doesn't make sense with rookies..

    • @wangchung2157
      @wangchung2157 5 месяцев назад +13

      ​@@berryesseenthen the best rookie would never win the award its basically a participation trophy then

    • @Swerv_TBZ
      @Swerv_TBZ 5 месяцев назад +12

      @@berryesseen rookie of the year has never been about team success

    • @berryesseen
      @berryesseen 5 месяцев назад

      @@Swerv_TBZ exactly. It should be fixed. The league is giving wrong players ROY for years. There is only way to measure success in basketball and it is the number of wins. If you play 20+ minutes every game and your team is above 0.500, then you are a good player. Otherwise, you aren't so good. Farming stats while being at the bottom of the league doesn't mean anything. Wembanyama's stats don't translate to anything important. He can keep blocking the whole league, it doesn't matter if the result is a loss.

  • @smithfan22
    @smithfan22 5 месяцев назад +271

    Luka Doncic has been the most valuable player this year.

    • @heyitsgurm3509
      @heyitsgurm3509 5 месяцев назад +20

      @@ClodnerPierre1injuries. Give luka OKC or boston and they going 82-0

    • @jackjohnson8244
      @jackjohnson8244 5 месяцев назад +7

      @@heyitsgurm3509 He'd win MVP then, but he's in Dallas.....so.....

    • @chief8268
      @chief8268 5 месяцев назад +7

      If they didn’t trade for kyrie Irving, they would have been a top 4 seed and Luka most likely would win mvp.

    • @nithanthram9627
      @nithanthram9627 5 месяцев назад +5

      8th seed is kind of misleading since the caliber of the west is crazy and all of the top 9 teams are pretty closely clustered together. It's high variance and we can see that with the standings shifting pretty frequently. Mavs only have 5 less wins than the thunder and Luka's had one of the most injured teams this season@@ClodnerPierre1

    • @hangtime1111
      @hangtime1111 5 месяцев назад

      There a reason why coach left : luka

  • @KurinKato1
    @KurinKato1 5 месяцев назад +78

    The Giannis blackball needs to be studied ever since 2020 the media has been against him winning an MVP he is basically in the Lebron category were u are so good every year that u can’t get an MVP

    • @stirdi
      @stirdi 5 месяцев назад +6

      This the one!

    • @KurinKato1
      @KurinKato1 5 месяцев назад +8

      And it’s not even a seed issue he has been a top 3 seed every single season since 2018

    • @Bolt_btw
      @Bolt_btw 5 месяцев назад +8

      Its genuinely concerning

    • @dewman7477
      @dewman7477 5 месяцев назад

      The media is racist

    • @gerryr4224
      @gerryr4224 5 месяцев назад +3

      How is he not in the top 5? Makes no sense.

  • @jproulleaux4606
    @jproulleaux4606 5 месяцев назад +10

    Wemby is under way more pressure for years since he was a very young prospect in France, but more in particular more recently on the draft and preseason. The media were barely speaking about Chet Holgrem until the season started. All the spotlights were on Wemby.

  • @dontaeshepard2199
    @dontaeshepard2199 5 месяцев назад +58

    Didn’t Luka just blow out OKC by 30? Like come on dude lmaooo

    • @KurinKato1
      @KurinKato1 5 месяцев назад +2

      And Giannis blowout the Nuggets by 20 and he is still under him it’s crazy

    • @trainerrob1622
      @trainerrob1622 5 месяцев назад +6

      And they are still a play in team as it stands right now... Everyone losses games in an 82 game season. The Bucks just blew the door off Denver last night and Giannis dominated the head to head against Jokic but they don't have him number one based on that game do they? That's not how it works. Luka might be your favorite player but the truth is his numbers are not leading to wins. They are a play in team right now. You are not going to win the MVP playing on a team seeded 8th.

    • @Zureepi
      @Zureepi 5 месяцев назад

      @@trainerrob1622 They're a game away from the 5th seed, and we have had an MVP winner on a 6th seed not long ago, his stats and his play should be taken into account, he has been playing on a hurt team all year too

    • @dewman7477
      @dewman7477 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@trainerrob1622Giannis stats offensively are on the same level as Jokic (except assists) but Giannis is so much better defender than Jokic and Giannis is top 3 seed in east like Jokic. The gap should not be that big at all

    • @mathewdavis2427
      @mathewdavis2427 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@trainerrob1622They’re one game away from the 5th seed, dude. And now they’re finally getting healthy and on a winning streak. Do you even watch the games or have any idea how many injuries they’ve had?

  • @mtzion73
    @mtzion73 5 месяцев назад +72

    Giannis and Luke better than Shai and Donovan Mitchell!! Brian is still salty because Giannis signed with the Bucks while he was going on for months on how he would leave the Bucks…

    • @akshaysundaram7391
      @akshaysundaram7391 5 месяцев назад +5

      Starting to hate that fat windbag more and more haha

    • @trai00
      @trai00 5 месяцев назад

      SGA is the 2nd best player in the league

    • @T.Sullivan
      @T.Sullivan 5 месяцев назад

      what DUHHHHHH how is that even a question

  • @slimfo378
    @slimfo378 5 месяцев назад +46

    it’s like they avoid luka completely 😂

    • @achimwitcoustic9585
      @achimwitcoustic9585 5 месяцев назад

      😂 yes

    • @Raul1088
      @Raul1088 5 месяцев назад

      They dont like him and mavs.watch mavs make a big run from now on and mavs will be at worst 4th place.thats enough for him to win.

    • @AndrewCampbellsports
      @AndrewCampbellsports 5 месяцев назад

      LeBron is still the face of the NBA

    • @ashokathegreat4534
      @ashokathegreat4534 5 месяцев назад

      Fluka

  • @Ex-OTIC
    @Ex-OTIC 5 месяцев назад +78

    Giannis has been blackballed from winning the MVP. He could average 50 and he still wouldn’t win it.

    • @lamjustadroid
      @lamjustadroid 5 месяцев назад +7

      Could say that for alot of players tbh like Luka

    • @KurinKato1
      @KurinKato1 5 месяцев назад +9

      @@lamjustadroidLuka has never had a top 3 seed sadly

    • @tompratt7125
      @tompratt7125 5 месяцев назад +4

      Jokic's playoff run was so completely dominant and so recent, and so many voters regretted not giving him MVP last year, that he's going to have huge sympathy among voters this time around. Playoff stuff shouldn't influence MVP votes but of course it does. Jokic didn't get it last year because he didn't have a chip. Another factor working against Giannis is that he scores almost exclusively at the rim and isn't viewed as an especially skilled offensive player. Most analysts now view Jokic as one of the 2 or 3 most skilled offensive bigs ever. Fair or not, those are tough obstacles for Giannis to overcome.

    • @Ex-OTIC
      @Ex-OTIC 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@tompratt7125 honestly I agree with most if not all of what you said but my input would be it’s not fair. It’s extremely unfair.

    • @neutral_10
      @neutral_10 5 месяцев назад

      @@KurinKato1 because of the team constructed around him

  • @devantegatson8482
    @devantegatson8482 5 месяцев назад +74

    People need to give Luka his flowers bro

    • @NoName-cn3cp
      @NoName-cn3cp 5 месяцев назад

      Plays no defense, cries the whole game, nobody wants to play with him, 7th seed. You're welcome.

  • @zhuber
    @zhuber 5 месяцев назад +19

    Is Richard saying that Victor has empty stats like Wilt? Not a fair comparison for a rookie.

    • @gr8esthandleever
      @gr8esthandleever 5 месяцев назад +7

      Seems like that's what he wanted to say which is wild considering the level of talent in today's game.

    • @yungpthegreat
      @yungpthegreat 5 месяцев назад +2

      I mean he had got two triple doubles and the media only points out this one as if this is his first one s SMH

  • @akshaysundaram7391
    @akshaysundaram7391 5 месяцев назад +46

    Windy the windbag in his hate Giannis phase 😂

  • @bevanjonsson2284
    @bevanjonsson2284 5 месяцев назад +8

    Richard Jefferson. When teams make up scouting reports for OKC and Spurs, the main focus is on Shai and Wemby. Chet would not handle the amount of double teams Wemby gets.

  • @ilovephathoes33
    @ilovephathoes33 5 месяцев назад +25

    giannis getting robbed

  • @Bolt_btw
    @Bolt_btw 5 месяцев назад +13

    WHY DO WE GIVE GUYS LIKE HIM VOTES... GIANNIS NOT EVEN IN TOP 5 AT LEAST??? THIS IS DISGUSTING AND THE MEDIA SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES THE WAY THEY HAVE TAKEN GIANNIS OUT OF MVP TALKS FOR 4 YEARS NOW

  • @slimfo378
    @slimfo378 5 месяцев назад +11

    they blow straight past luka to talk about don michelle 😂😭

  • @rryanc22
    @rryanc22 5 месяцев назад +5

    RJ criticising wemby for not winning at 19 years old comparing him to wilt not winning his whole career is kind of crazy.

  • @deeang349
    @deeang349 5 месяцев назад +38

    his "hatement" is that wemby towers over the competition the same way wilt did....

    • @erich3784
      @erich3784 5 месяцев назад +11

      Then why didn't Shawn Bradley, Rik Smits, Manute Bol, George Murezhan, Kristaps, even Yao dominate as much as Victor does? I'd like a logical explanation to that.

    • @deeang349
      @deeang349 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@erich3784 one because they aren't as talented and two because they aren't as tall as him. I didn't make the argument. I'm telling you what RJ was going to bring up

    • @Freespazfreesumo
      @Freespazfreesumo 5 месяцев назад

      Lowkey I thought he was gonna say Victor be stat padding when he brought up Wilt.😭

    • @Derka-xr2dl
      @Derka-xr2dl 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@deeang349Yao is taller than Victor so...

    • @deeang349
      @deeang349 5 месяцев назад

      @@Derka-xr2dl and?

  • @M0IVD0
    @M0IVD0 5 месяцев назад +25

    Man has to average 27 for Chet not to have the edge lmaooooo

    • @iwishiwasthomasshelby
      @iwishiwasthomasshelby 5 месяцев назад +1

      What? Chet has 14 and Wemby had 27 14 and 10 blks. 🤦‍♂️

    • @MarquisVegan
      @MarquisVegan 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@iwishiwasthomasshelby I think he means Wemby has to be stat padding in a historic way just in order for people in the media to finally say Wemby is leading ROTY.

    • @iwishiwasthomasshelby
      @iwishiwasthomasshelby 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@MarquisVegan ah, I see. I don’t know. I watch both of them play, I think Wemby has a lot higher ceiling. It’s not just about stats. He dominates his matchups but gets a lot less opportunities in the plays to even compile stats. I think Pop is also trying to develop sochan to get him to develop into a star he can pair with w we Wemby. Pop is less concerned about Wemby because he’s already good. They’re tanking while developing other talents for the future. OKC is actually trying to win. People don’t talk about these things. Most posts you see on here are, ppg ppg ppg!!!

    • @MarquisVegan
      @MarquisVegan 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@iwishiwasthomasshelby I totally agree with you.

    • @iwishiwasthomasshelby
      @iwishiwasthomasshelby 5 месяцев назад

      Sorry, I misinterpreted your comment as someone else pointed out.

  • @javaman_
    @javaman_ 5 месяцев назад +38

    Luka is having a better season statistically than Shai and Jokic. And has an almost identical record as the 76ers

    • @cedricasdfghjkl9151
      @cedricasdfghjkl9151 5 месяцев назад +2

      But both of them (especially SGA) are good on defense as well. Even though offense is really important (even more nowadays), you still need good defenders.

    • @texasvet2729
      @texasvet2729 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@cedricasdfghjkl9151Luka is one of the league leaders in steals this year

    • @alananderson7903
      @alananderson7903 5 месяцев назад +2

      Luka is only the 5th best player statistically. Look it up. Stats don't lie. It's Embiid #1 and Jokic #2. However, Embiid is disqualified from MVP - too many missed games.

    • @philipthavenius9801
      @philipthavenius9801 5 месяцев назад

      That narrative is long gone, he has improved his defense a lot and as has been stated leader on steals and is a great iso defender. He does look like he lets things get past him from time to time, but when he thinks he can do an impact he does. @@cedricasdfghjkl9151

    • @tompratt7125
      @tompratt7125 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@texasvet2729 That's because he gambles a ton which is actually normally the sign of a poor defender that's often out of position.

  • @wheels30
    @wheels30 5 месяцев назад +6

    Shaq: "I'd still take Bol bol."

  • @nicholasnajibi3082
    @nicholasnajibi3082 5 месяцев назад +37

    The Giannis hate is unreal

  • @Slo_757
    @Slo_757 5 месяцев назад +6

    WHO TF IS VOTING? Luka with 3 votes is insane bro 😂😂😂

  • @NostradamussSchalke
    @NostradamussSchalke 5 месяцев назад +38

    Giannis not in his top 5 lmao Windhorst a real hater

    • @tompratt7125
      @tompratt7125 5 месяцев назад +2

      Relax. Windhorst was the leading Jokic basher/ignorer for years. He was once asked by a colleague on his hoops collective podcast if he ever talked about the Nuggets. His answer was, without irony, 'no.' It's only since Jokic's dominant playoff run last summer that Windhorst is now a Jokic guy. He's been an Embiid lackey for years.

  • @user-em6lz4bz9f
    @user-em6lz4bz9f 5 месяцев назад +6

    LUKA is literally the Most Valuable Player to his team compared to all the other Stars

  • @NoName-rg3np
    @NoName-rg3np 5 месяцев назад +6

    The Giannis disrespect…

  • @joem7462
    @joem7462 5 месяцев назад +26

    How tf is Luka NOT mentioned when his avg 35/9/9 while playing with plumbers AND while Kyrie has only played around 10 games

    • @morgan2552t
      @morgan2552t 5 месяцев назад +2

      Who's sga playing with? The youngest starting lineup in the NBA. Second youngest team!

    • @Raul1088
      @Raul1088 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@morgan2552the doesnt have to do everything.he has a better team. They cam win without him.mavs without Luka struggle

    • @morgan2552t
      @morgan2552t 5 месяцев назад

      @Raul1088 . The mavs with Luka struggled. They were the 4th seed last year and missed the playoffs with kyrie. The thunder without chet last year, at least made the play in and won a game.

    • @joem7462
      @joem7462 5 месяцев назад

      @@morgan2552tbro are u really that casual? Being young dont equate being worse! On the contrary they have the best young core in the nba. All of them ball

    • @morgan2552t
      @morgan2552t 5 месяцев назад

      @joem7462 . Bro, being young also does it equate to being good. The spurs, trailblazers, also have a young team. Luka has more of the same team when he was in the wcf.

  • @nkosanamazibuko5766
    @nkosanamazibuko5766 5 месяцев назад +6

    The Giannis hate is real guys the media does not want to give it to him at all .he has to be one of the most consistent performers in the league besides Joker.

  • @guillermorivera9981
    @guillermorivera9981 5 месяцев назад +34

    it’s really Luka but ok

    • @jackjohnson8244
      @jackjohnson8244 5 месяцев назад

      8th in the west, 13th in the league. Wembanyama is my favorite player....I'm not saying he's the league MVP. LOL

    • @AP90x
      @AP90x 5 месяцев назад

      @@jackjohnson8244do you realize how close the 8 seed is from the 3 seed? The west is wide open, u sound absolutely f’cking id’otic

  • @wvu1275
    @wvu1275 5 месяцев назад +7

    Porzingis got traded because he was incredibly injury prone. Brunson left because his dad was in New York and it had nothing to do with Luka. Free agents haven’t been coming to Dallas since the Dirk era.

  • @210_Saiyan
    @210_Saiyan 5 месяцев назад +4

    Disrespectful again towards Gianni’s

  • @uthamanj
    @uthamanj 5 месяцев назад +34

    Let's be honest........Wemby won Rookie of the Year before he got drafted 🙄🙄

    • @stannistargaryen
      @stannistargaryen 5 месяцев назад +28

      Let be honest.......this is not really Holmgrens rookie year 🙄🙄

    • @Freespazfreesumo
      @Freespazfreesumo 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@stannistargaryenbros 2 years older and people still give him roty over a younger player putting up better numbers than him because “he plays a significant role on a better team”

    • @stannistargaryen
      @stannistargaryen 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@Freespazfreesumo Yeah it makes no sense. ROTY is supposed to be individual accolades, not based on how well your team or teamates are playing.

    • @uthamanj
      @uthamanj 5 месяцев назад

      @@stannistargaryen .....okay

    • @leonardomoore1868
      @leonardomoore1868 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@stannistargaryengo the f..k to bed with that ridiculous comment. C'mon man do better

  • @n-cite9101
    @n-cite9101 5 месяцев назад +15

    Giannis is mvp

  • @zaironold2762
    @zaironold2762 5 месяцев назад +5

    I find this funny that Luka wasn't even named once

  • @ozukabeats2456
    @ozukabeats2456 5 месяцев назад +7

    This luka hate is insane
    Its also very obvious when the nba decides they want to make a certain player a "superstar" and shai is that person

    • @iarebaboon84
      @iarebaboon84 5 месяцев назад

      yes, and it was Ja before him, . Booker and tatum are on their reserves

  • @shawnp8076
    @shawnp8076 5 месяцев назад +12

    4:44 for the spurs fans lol😅😂

  • @BruceWayne-oz7xc
    @BruceWayne-oz7xc 5 месяцев назад +4

    The idea that Kawhi has a case over Luka is beyond absurd

  • @princellasmith7562
    @princellasmith7562 5 месяцев назад +4

    I've been on the Wemby train since I saw him in those clips from France.

    • @360carter3
      @360carter3 5 месяцев назад

      I been rocking with him since he was with Nanterre 92

  • @MBGamerZone
    @MBGamerZone 5 месяцев назад +25

    I don’t even think Jokic has had a better year than giannis 31,11,6 61fg% vs 26,12,9 58fg%. Idk y there is a big gap at all, giannis should be neck and neck with sga and jokic

    • @Chessbox09
      @Chessbox09 5 месяцев назад +2

      It’s just media propaganda that’s all. The Nuggets could be fighting for the play in and they’d still hand him the MVP.

    • @dewman7477
      @dewman7477 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@Chessbox09yeah and people say Jokic is disrespected lmao 🤣 clearly as we see in this straw poll Giannis is more disrespected

    • @AlphaTSH
      @AlphaTSH 5 месяцев назад

      Nuggets are worse without Jokic off the floor than the bucks are with Giannis off it. Just how it goes.And every voter coulda had Jokic only slightly above the other 2, but only 1 can get the first place vote.

    • @dewman7477
      @dewman7477 5 месяцев назад

      @@AlphaTSH if that’s the case LeBron would win more than 4 mvps lmao 🤣 clearly biased

    • @Chessbox09
      @Chessbox09 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@dewman7477 I know right! That whole “Jokic is disrespected” card his hilarious 😄. They try to give this guy MVP each year like it’s Halloween candy.

  • @mathewdavis2427
    @mathewdavis2427 5 месяцев назад +6

    C’mon now. Luka is better than both Shai and Giannis

    • @dewman7477
      @dewman7477 5 месяцев назад

      Luka isn’t better than Giannis only a better passer and shooter that’s really it

    • @laxus6442
      @laxus6442 5 месяцев назад

      ​@dewman7477 Dont forget scorer. Giannis is a better defender and rebounder..... What more?

    • @ashokathegreat4534
      @ashokathegreat4534 5 месяцев назад

      Let Doncic win a championship first

    • @anewrookiefreshman8716
      @anewrookiefreshman8716 4 месяца назад

      @@laxus6442 ofc giannis is a better defensive player but luka can score much better than giannis could

  • @jkaijuu5318
    @jkaijuu5318 5 месяцев назад +9

    “ I have a hate statement “ is crazy 😂

  • @ploxxybb
    @ploxxybb 5 месяцев назад

    LOL windy's face while they all debating xD

  • @ericgonzales5057
    @ericgonzales5057 5 месяцев назад +7

    These Noob reporters are so blasphemous, Luka is Easily better than all of them Think about it and look at the numbers. Lol . Pathetic.

  • @En1gmatic1
    @En1gmatic1 5 месяцев назад +5

    Have Victor and Chet switch teams and the Thunder would clear and away have THE best record in the League. Chet would not be putting up Wemby numbers on the Spurs, and Wemby can do any and evertything Chet is asked to do..and then some. It's not even close

    • @Paulafan5
      @Paulafan5 5 месяцев назад

      Chet would have much better numbers on the Spurs because someone has to get stats, even on a horrible team. Putting up stats on a top tier team is more impressive.

    • @En1gmatic1
      @En1gmatic1 5 месяцев назад +1

      @Paulafan5 yea he woul probably be between 15-20 as well, but he's not going to have the defensive impact of wemby and their record wouldnt be any different, if not worse

    • @M0IVD0
      @M0IVD0 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Paulafan5most of Chet’s 3 are created for him lol

    • @M0IVD0
      @M0IVD0 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Paulafan5and I have yet to see Chet get double teamed like wemby

    • @ochomunna270
      @ochomunna270 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Paulafan5go watch the games, Wemby gets double/triple teamed "CONSISTENTLY" because opposing teams scheme to stop him. And yet he puts up great stats !
      Chet gets open looks because OKC got Shai & Jalen William, Chet is not comparable to Wemby in no way.
      It's not even close, this is American bias been pushed to prop up Chets case for ROY when he's not even a rookie.

  • @abdoulayetandia2175
    @abdoulayetandia2175 5 месяцев назад +1

    Really glad to see Jefferson airplane he was a great player so now about wemby he's always a kid and each game is a lesson for him but he's on good path to become dominant and unstoppable players and in few years he'll an albatros above nba's areas

  • @BrianSaidWhat
    @BrianSaidWhat 5 месяцев назад +5

    How is Luka not even considered top 2

  • @brianalexander1263
    @brianalexander1263 5 месяцев назад +2

    Crazy to call these people sports experts with all the Luka Doncic disrespect.
    His stats alone should put him at #1.

    • @ashokathegreat4534
      @ashokathegreat4534 5 месяцев назад

      Also nr1 in crying and complaining all the time

  • @jbmorris2907
    @jbmorris2907 5 месяцев назад +3

    Some respect is given and some respect is earned but why is the media and other voters acting like Gianni’s dropped off. Giannis is still in his prime averaging superstar numbers and being the best player on his team with no doubt in that regard and the Milwaukee Bucks having one of the best record in their conference. From a non biased perspective Jokic is a top tier guy at his position but still a lack on the defensive side compared to Giannis. If NBA fans and media want to give Jokic respect for doing things other bigs are not then the votes are well placed but to at least not have a guy they called and are still arguably calling the best player in the world not just a while ago in the second place position in voting is just blasphemy. Tell me I’m wrong …

  • @sidney1234usc
    @sidney1234usc 5 месяцев назад +1

    What Richard was going to say was something about Victor being taller than everybody else because when Wilt Chamberlain played they said that he was playing with regular size men. So basically Richard was going to downplay his achievements because he's 7 ft 4

  • @emmanuelbertho6251
    @emmanuelbertho6251 5 месяцев назад +2

    I don't get it. It is said that Robinson was drafted in 1987 and that he was the last to have 10 blocks triple double as rookie in 1990?
    Was he a rookie for 3 years?

    • @HeckThor.
      @HeckThor. 5 месяцев назад +2

      No. A player being drafted on a particular year doesn't mean he's playing on the same year.
      The Admiral served in the military for a few years after he was drafted and that's why he was already 27(?) years old when he finally started playing.
      Same with Manu Ginobili, he was played a few years later after being drafted because he was playing overseas.

    • @emmanuelbertho6251
      @emmanuelbertho6251 5 месяцев назад

      @@HeckThor. Thank's for the explanation.

  • @VSOPSportsRadio
    @VSOPSportsRadio 5 месяцев назад

    "ive been called that many of nights" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @abhinavaman08
    @abhinavaman08 5 месяцев назад +3

    show looks so good without Kendrick Perkins and Steven Smith.

  • @solliskuxxswag
    @solliskuxxswag 5 месяцев назад +2

    No Giannis from Brian? Smh

  • @Juan-wf3rq
    @Juan-wf3rq 5 месяцев назад +2

    Stopping wemby are teams main focus, while the thunder have teams planning against stopping SGA. All Chet really has to do is knock down his open shots and make some plays on defense. I don’t really get RJs argument, it’s no way near neck and neck.

  • @tearincottonpanties
    @tearincottonpanties 5 месяцев назад +2

    Chet has zero pressure are u kidding? Chet knows his team will win even when he has bad games. What pressure?

  • @maddiestoys1121
    @maddiestoys1121 5 месяцев назад +2

    Richard Jefferson really hate the Spurs.

  • @eddydesir7702
    @eddydesir7702 5 месяцев назад +2

    Chet isnt under any pressures😂 he can go out there and score 4pts on a 1-9 night and his team still wins. If wemby ever has a game when he score just 4pts on basically 10% the spurs will lose by 70. Chet has not pressure SGA and JDub do

  • @youngcity4241
    @youngcity4241 5 месяцев назад +3

    Giannis is top 2 in MVP race

  • @GoHawks24
    @GoHawks24 5 месяцев назад

    Wemby is the man and just getting started. Watch how he develops.

  • @thanos8914
    @thanos8914 5 месяцев назад +1

    This is actually the best rookie season ever besides magic rookie year

  • @leroyduncan9368
    @leroyduncan9368 5 месяцев назад

    To not say the kids name in his 4th year with HIS team dominating and he being a top 3 2way player is wild.

  • @Tloc103
    @Tloc103 5 месяцев назад +2

    How is this a show

  • @leroyduncan9368
    @leroyduncan9368 5 месяцев назад +1

    Crazy Ant int in it at all

  • @particularlee
    @particularlee 5 месяцев назад +1

    RJ's wilt point is probably to dismiss wembys blocks dunks and stats as him being too tall for the game so its like a given, like the narrative of how wilt was playing against plumbers a foot shorter. But this is like saying Usain Bolts legs are too long since he 6'5 so its not greatness. Basketball is a physical sport man, if you got the god given tools and use them right you deserve to be the best.

  • @morgan2552t
    @morgan2552t 5 месяцев назад

    SGA, bringing the second youngest team and the youngest starting lineup in the NBA into a top spot is impressive !

  • @GodfreyTheCreator
    @GodfreyTheCreator 5 месяцев назад +4

    They stay trying to give Jokic MVPs. Every year he has won it, including this year if he does, he wasnt the MVP and shouldn't have won it. And the year he didn't, he should have 😂😂😂

  • @theog_gamer4076
    @theog_gamer4076 5 месяцев назад +1

    Luka is criminally underrated

  • @nicholaskatsikas4904
    @nicholaskatsikas4904 5 месяцев назад +2

    It’s pretty much going to come down to seeding on who will win MVP. If the Nuggets get a top 3 seed it will be hard to not give Jokic another MVP but if Luka leads the Mavs to a top 5 seed or SGA leads the Thunder to a top 2 seed they both will have a deserving case over him.

    • @RG-rb6om
      @RG-rb6om 5 месяцев назад

      Why will someone who finish 5 seed will win the MVP 😂

    • @youngcity4241
      @youngcity4241 5 месяцев назад

      Jokic is not a MVP this year

    • @nicholaskatsikas4904
      @nicholaskatsikas4904 5 месяцев назад

      @@youngcity4241 who is then and why

    • @dewman7477
      @dewman7477 5 месяцев назад

      You forgot Giannis lmao 🤣 the disrespect

    • @dewman7477
      @dewman7477 5 месяцев назад

      @@nicholaskatsikas4904Giannis look at his stats and his defense he plays both sides of the ball and his team record is the same as okc or nuggets pretty much. Yet he’s so far down than shai and Jokic lmao 🤣

  • @dyskover
    @dyskover 5 месяцев назад +1

    Victor is the new Wilton. I hope Steph closes the regular season averaging 7 three's, 30 pts, 6 assist, 5 rebounds and only plays 27 minutes a game.

  • @samuelmasi5215
    @samuelmasi5215 5 месяцев назад +2

    This Giannis disrespect is Crazy

  • @etcfedora7841
    @etcfedora7841 5 месяцев назад +2

    Luka has no defense and they’re the 8th seed. Make it out of the playins if you want to contend everyone’s acting like he wasn’t 4th in voting

  • @foozion
    @foozion 5 месяцев назад +7

    is someone at espn making RJ have this ridiculous view about Chet over Wemby and him being under more pressure? so weird

    • @Paulafan5
      @Paulafan5 5 месяцев назад

      Wemby is getting a ton of stats in a losing cause (usually) while Chet's stats helps the Thunder to actually win games.

    • @foozion
      @foozion 5 месяцев назад

      and you could counter by saying Chet is in a coherent system, and Wemby has to fight tooth and nail for every stat he gets. @@Paulafan5

    • @vainstainesguerra3817
      @vainstainesguerra3817 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Paulafan5what? okc wins even if chet has a mediocre night or an off night, if wemby has an off night the spurs will get blown by 20 not 10pts. And tongive me those arguements that wemby is producing empty stats, most of the time spurs are leading if wby is on the floor and they always lose their lead if he goes to the bench.

  • @Honestlytruth
    @Honestlytruth 5 месяцев назад

    Victor should have mvp votes idc lol as a rookie he is killing it

  • @TheGorillaGuerrilla
    @TheGorillaGuerrilla 5 месяцев назад

    Does anybody know what Richard is implying with the whole Wilt/Wemby discussion?

    • @erich3784
      @erich3784 5 месяцев назад +3

      That Victor is head & shoulders taller than everybody and that's why it's so "easy" for him.
      He doesn't explain why guys like Manute Bol, Rik Smits, Murezhan, Shawn Bradley or Tacko Fall didn't dominate though.

  • @derekkingcade7948
    @derekkingcade7948 5 месяцев назад +1

    Wembayama definitely rookie of the year

  • @rickyrickalvous2982
    @rickyrickalvous2982 5 месяцев назад

    Hehe I quickly skip the parts where Malika speaks and occasionally Perk

  • @vraelatao2264
    @vraelatao2264 5 месяцев назад

    Chiney's point about Tatum is spot on. Without the story behind it, SGA wouldn't be so high and Tatum would be in the conversation for sure.

  • @isdere
    @isdere 5 месяцев назад

    6:55 oh no 😂 Shaq is gonna be pissed

  • @LeapingRat
    @LeapingRat 5 месяцев назад

    Jefferson saying Chet is "pressured" to get 16 and 8 every night is hilarious.

  • @Jygzaw
    @Jygzaw 5 месяцев назад +6

    How is SGA ahead of Luka?

    • @MladenVukadinovic
      @MladenVukadinovic 5 месяцев назад

      So it’s MVT and not MVP?

    • @dewman7477
      @dewman7477 5 месяцев назад

      @@DeeRGJokic win mvp as 6th seed so if Luka team gets to top 5 seed in west with the stats and no Kyrie for half the season, luka has to be mvp

    • @Paulafan5
      @Paulafan5 5 месяцев назад

      Total points, steals, team record...

    • @MladenVukadinovic
      @MladenVukadinovic 5 месяцев назад

      @@DeeRG i'm just saying it is stupid. I've been following NBA since early 90's. You have regular season MVP and finals MVP. Making team success as a metric for Most Valuable Player in the regular season is a bit off

    • @MladenVukadinovic
      @MladenVukadinovic 5 месяцев назад

      @@DeeRG yes, you should mute yourself…

  • @yungpthegreat
    @yungpthegreat 5 месяцев назад

    Bro WEMBY had got two triple doubles his rookie year and the media only points out this one as if this is his first one SMH

  • @viktor.nikolaev
    @viktor.nikolaev 5 месяцев назад

    soo no one votes Tatum?) hes in a brilliant shape right now

  • @alex-og.zalez9403
    @alex-og.zalez9403 5 месяцев назад

    Tatums roster is insanely stacked

  • @demigod_trill4776
    @demigod_trill4776 5 месяцев назад +2

    So do yall still think chet roty over wemby🤣

  • @jamalfsr
    @jamalfsr 5 месяцев назад +3

    rj button up man

  • @CamelSportsWorld
    @CamelSportsWorld 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you ESPN for cutting off Malika when talking about the MVP🙏🙏🙏

  • @sbspassion
    @sbspassion 4 месяца назад

    how should kawhi be in the top 5, he's got like 3 other HOF'ers on his team and a crazy quality bench unit?

  • @KrisMcCauley
    @KrisMcCauley 5 месяцев назад

    Luka is hands down #2. You all are crazy

  • @foundationsyth9825
    @foundationsyth9825 5 месяцев назад +4

    Someone please tell me how Nikola Jokic is having such an amazing season? It's the same season he's had for 4 years in a row basically. I love jokic, but he should not be MVP this year. It should be Luka/Shai

    • @youngcity4241
      @youngcity4241 5 месяцев назад +1

      It’s crazy I really don’t get it

    • @foundationsyth9825
      @foundationsyth9825 5 месяцев назад

      @@youngcity4241 like jokic first 2 MVPs came in the same exact fashion as the season Luka is having this year. EXCEPT Lukas only talented ball player has been injured most of the year and his numbers are basically better just not as efficient. Do they hate Luka cuz he whines? Idk. He's the only reason why I'm optimistic about basketball life after LeBron/Curry/Durant

    • @domingow.17
      @domingow.17 5 месяцев назад

      It's pretty simple actually. Denver is awful whenever jokic is not on the floor. I'm sure you don't watch Denver games so the box score watching that you do is understandably confusing

    • @foundationsyth9825
      @foundationsyth9825 5 месяцев назад

      @@domingow.17 wow. I didn't know I was talking to a woman. Jumping to conclusions when you don't know anything about the games I watch

    • @domingow.17
      @domingow.17 5 месяцев назад

      @foundationsyth9825 your questions say it for you my guy. You just watch box scores clearly

  • @Voltron21
    @Voltron21 5 месяцев назад

    when 26 pts per game "don't jump of the page" there's a problem.