Octatrack FX Send Tutorial // Why i can't let it go..
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2018
- This feature alone is why I can't go without an octatrack in my live setup.. The best part it is.. you can still use it as a sampler with this method!! This also works the same on Octatrack MK2
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Setting up in Studio Mode allows you to actually control how much of the signal is being mixed with the external effect(s). Gives you a double Level control readout and everything. Takes the technique in this video to another level. It's super cool.
I send cue out to it's own track on my mixer for send efx rather than buss efx all my OT inputs are already used.
"imagine this doing whatever you want it to do" is the best description of the octatrack I've ever heard
On my Mackie mixer I use the alt 3/4 out to send stuff to my Tascam Portastudio 424 tape mixer. This way I can quickly sample anything from my setup into it without unplugging cables. Absolute godsend feature that I can’t go without.
Octatrack, what is best in life!? "Sample your enemies, cue the mute tracks before them, and input the lamentations of their outputs." That is good! That is good.
Ivan Karaulov “No one, not even you will remember if we were good samplers or bad, why we sampled, or why we sequenced. No, all that matters is one machine stood against many, that’s what’s important. Sampling pleases you, Elektron, so grant me one request, grant me greatness! And if you do not listen, then to hell with you!
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You're always on point and straight to the point with the tutorials! Thank you!!
Dude I've had my octatrack for over two years now and I thought I knew my way around it decently enough but this is the second video of yours that has shown me how to do something I always figured was a possible functionality of the machine but never really had the resources or drive to dreadfully scour through endless unhelpful youtube videos/forums. Thank you for this, seriously.
Perfect timing, just picked up a pair of Eventides for my Octa! Would love to see more about Octa-workflow!
This is one of the best tutorial vids coupled on top of the actual elecktron octatrack official vids. You explain things well and i actually understood the 8-track system better in this vid than in previous videos for some reason.
Robbie! thank you! i'm so glad i can help. Explaining the Octatrack can be so difficult sometimes, and im not even sure if i make sense to myself haha. I'm glad you understood it.
crazy, i just started delving deeper into my mackie 1202 vlz4 and using alt3-4 with muted tracks and this popped up! excellent vid as always ricky
Guy, definitely the OctaTrack videos that I needed
This has been a really useful video! Thanks for making them. :)
Love using this workaround
Thanks for the clarity, this video is very helpful!
Glad i made it understandable haha, the OT is really good at not being that.
Nice. Helpful as always. Thanks 🙏
exactly what I was looking for right now, perfect, thanks man!!
Heard that the gain staging is the octatrack's kryptonite. Heard in a forum one guy explaining that same thing, even straight sampling, is better on the mpc live. Better connectors and overall audio quality, at least compared to a mk1. Owning an octa this pushed me to have the live. And the battery. With external fx powered with powerbanks or fx pedals with batteries...sounds soooo interesting. Hope to try the same in a few weeks. Great channel.
Great Video!! More octatrack vids pleaaaseee .D
Great trick! Thanks for sharing.
What an amazing tutorial! Extremely useful 👌 👏 👍 🙂 😊 thanks man!
Oh man great technique! Never knew about this one.
Yes u deserved thumbs up and u got it. Think u really should continue with octatrack tutorials,I hate it and love it at the same time. Without this video I would never came up with send and return idea. Pls more vids!
Mind has officially been blown
All about anything that helps me understand the damn OT! Had mine a few weeks. Awesome, but...you know :)
Thanks for the video!
Read the manual!!!
Incredíblé! Thank you for this.
Like #1000 here🤘 awesome videos dude!
Yeah im gunna hafta go ahead and try this with my kaoss pad, looks mad fun
Good stuff here made me wanna take my octatrak out again it's been a while
Great idea
I just hooked up a Delaydelus2 (I was thinking of selling it) as an effect send destination for the Octatrack. Amaze balls so far. 😊
I use the studio mode. Then you have the level and cue level on every channel. Then I send the cue to ext in of TR-8s for sidechaining but because I have normal/cue level I can blend the signal
Great video! Long live the OT!
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I've got a mkii on the way from Reverb and I'm doing a deep dive on your OT videos... I haven't been this excited to own a Kaosspad since I originally bought one.
woooo i hope you learn something haha. Its such a fun device. Thanks for the support Dayvedt
A gain staging video could be a good one in the future. It’s definitely the most painful part of the octatrack.
Hey there! I just happened to be watching this video and saw your comment. If you're still curious I have a 2-part series on gain staging in the Octatrack, hopefully that can provide some insight: ruclips.net/video/2H9nm2iIAoc/видео.html
Thanks Kenny, much appreciated!
@@underhill6689 leave track level always at 127. thru machine amp always max. flex amp vol 63. so input is always like sampled stuff. no gain problems.
Good video!
Great!
Yeah man, loving your vids. Now I want to buy the Octatrack again >.
doooo itttt. haha, It's the one product that has the most cases of "i bought it, didnt use it for a year then sold it... now i want it back" hahaha I almost did the same thing!
Got that G.A.S. though! I gotta be careful. haha. I just got the digitakt and it sounds so friggin good man. HNNNNGGGGGGG
@@RickyTinez That's the OP-1 for me from Teenage Engineering. Sighhhh
Sweet !
For the A4, using its filter for an external synth emits a low signal. Huh, so may I need to play with the gain as well?!!? Good reference video.
I have nothing to comment. Just commenting so youtube will appreciate your video a little bit more. Oh, it was a good one btw :)
Too kind! Thank you
Great video.
I have felt for a long time that Elektron need to build a matrix mixer.
10 in 10 out unit with side changing and queuing, some powerful effects and sequencing. Enabling you to sequence your audio routing and effects.
some digital multi effect engines, analog filter, digital filter, analog compressor, digital compressor, analog EQ ... you get the idea.
Make it a mega clean interface over usb2 and you would be a paradigm shifting device. I would call it Automiks
Sort of like a hardware version of Effectrix/Turnado on the effects side? Would be pretty bad ass.
GREAT
4 and a half cable method...freakin crazy
wow thats really cool i thought there was a way to do this.
This was really useful! I'm thinking of getting an Octatrack. Coming from an Ableton set up but trying to find a good minimal DAWless set, I need something with OPTIONS and it seems like Octatrack is pretty much a one-stop solution.
ALT 3/4 Represent
Another very helpful tip, thank you, I really appreciate and enjoy your tutorials. I very recently obtained the digitakt and the ocktatrack mk 2 and I'm just starting to learn and understand these two machines. However, I was doubting my purchases of both and was thinking that I might have made a mistake. (I bought them used for great prices) Your tutorial has eased my mind and Im thinking that using both together might just work out fine! I'm thinking that I could use the Digitakt as a drum machine/sampler and also use the Ocktatrack as mixer/sequencer? There are many other other possibilities I'm sure, If you have any thoughts I would to hear them. Thanks again!
Research stuff before you buy it.
Use Digitakt for what it was intended, drum samples, shorter samples. Octatrack for longer samples, melodic stuff. Send Digitakt’s output into Octatrack for further mangling.
@@LukezyM Thanks for the reply, that
pretty much how I use it
I know have the Digitone to add to the mix. I just love its sounds.
All three machines together are what I call the Holly Trinity. Lol
@@midinerd congrats on the most useless comment possible.
i also prefer 'studio mode' and use the cue level as send amount. check my video if you want to know more.
but thanks for this way and go on with your vids! cheers
Your way is very cool indeed, that way you can send different track more or less in the reverb. + it doesn't use a thru track !
I just watched your video Natch and it blew my nuts off!
Why the f*ck would anyone give you a thumbs down man? I would give those one... Another great video!
Cheers EM good vid !
genial video se puede aplicar para una kaos pad¿
Hi! Do you still use the elektron gear, or have you changed to a different setup/workflow?
Would be amazing if you remade this but used a small eurorack case(40 hp?) outfitted for fx only
Very cool. thanks for this. I got a question: when i use chromatic mode to play a “synth” using a sample within the Octa, it quantizes my playing instead of recording the phrase exactly like I played it. I’ve clicked on “direct” on attr page...unchecked quantize live recording...etc. Please help.
Can’t believe nobody replied to this in 4 years. I think its simply because the octa can’t record unquantized.
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@Ricky Tinez ... Reverb Machine have a MONO or STEREO IN and OUTput?
can you show us how u use this to change patches or what some would call songs so there is noo silence when changing project to project
Would you recommend buying the original octatrack mk1 nowadays? The price is pretty nice, but I worry about what'll happen when something breaks and I wouldn't have a warranty
Rofer I totally would. I’ve had mine for aaggeesss and nothing has happened to it. I also bought the plastic cover for it though. Maybe that’s helped. But at the price you can get an MK1 for it’s a steeeal
Hey Ricky, you had a video with this feature but you were using the SP404. Seems like I can't find it... was it deleted?
Ricky, can you use this feature in stereo? Cue L R and Input C D?
I suppose you could also have 2 pedals (Cue L sends to one pedal, Cue R sends to another pedal) choose which of the two are active by manually muting one of the two pedals on the return. OR, even cooler, don't mute the cue out on the Octatrack and mix in parallel the 100% WET pedals via the Octatrack crossfader.
Yes, you can do that. I do that exact thing with my octatrack sends to my access virus (has excellent efx).
It is great....but....I think that gain stagging is a mess. What a headache !
I know this vids super old, but does anyone know of a way to control the send from a scene? Even in studio mode, I don’t seem to be able to lock the cue volume to a scene. I can keep the cue volume high and just change the master volume to min on the instruments thru, and max on the effect thru, and that works fine, but then if you slam back into the first scene, you don’t get the effect tail. Any advice appreciated!
Imagine a zoia attached with midi using scenes to change zoia patches 💀
That's very interesting
Standalone Drambo on iPad would also make for a killer send/return
It's a cool feature but not really a hack. Looking forward to be playing with mine again in two weeks.
Hey Ricky, I recently bought an octatrack mk2 and your videos were a big deciding factor. 🙂 But when I tried doing this with a kaoss pad as the send/return it on worked on 8 or so steps in my 64 step sequence. Any thoughts?
5:49 gives me flashbacks of running sound for a Zimbabwe themed festival a couple of years in a row. You're right, it was very cheesy.
So errr, how do you now actually mute the tracks that are Cued?
Why don't you just set the input gain in the mixer page ? There seem to be plenty of room for more gain judging by the input LEDs.
Hey Vinn, the reason i don't is because when using this setup Live, i run everything in mono! Which means i can only turn up AB and CD together not independently. So at this point its basically habit to not touch the input gain :) I appreciate that input though, it sure would help in most cases!
Never get rid of your MK1. The build quality on the 1s is so much better than the 2s in my opinion. Have owned them both and went back to the 1 after a few months.
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That's the old octatrack. Even the new mk2 octatrack is old just to give you a reference.
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Very confused. The topic of using external effects is not disclosed. Not a word about behaviour CUE in studio mode. Сomparing the two modes would be much more practical
I recommend at the beginning of your videos showing what the final result is before making the viewer wade through 4 minutes of preamble with no demonstration. This takes 15 seconds.
Good point, also takes 2 seconds to jump to the end! haha. I apprecaite the suggestion, i'll look into it :)
So like.. 6:30? In your demonstration, where would this point in time be?
Too much of a delay when switching cue in and out to be useful for fast rhythmic material but thanks.
It's like instantaneous on the Mk2...