Use wind talker and feather of heaven ONLY for attack speed items. Then magic damage the rest especially with blood wings. The shield of blood wings, prolongs the effects of 2nd skill. Plus makes chang e harder to catch due to fast movespeed windtalker+bloodwings. And you need to sell the boots in the lategame as well
@@neiljosephconsolacion2190 2 magic dmg items first. Then you can start building foh and windtalker. So you're playing chang e like a normal mage at early, then transition to attack spd mid game
This is why Elgin is a top notch ML channel.He actually try and test weird build not just give us idea to make one to give us full insign in game which works which not. And the whole team behind so talented. Animations, ideas and updates. ALL TOP NOTCH!❤🎉
If they want to make her mage/marksman than they should increase her shield based on her attack speed or ph attack, since she needs more shield if she is marksman than if she's mage
Way back then when there used to be the jg items and roamer items it was actually a rare couple of Chang'e mains that build Windtalker on Chang'e since it did three things that suited different type of Chang'e players. It gave Movement spd and attack spd to utilize enhanced basic attack between cooldowns but the movement spd made it relatively safe to be close to basic attack the enemy. Lastly is that Chang'e would shred towers much faster than she does with her regular magic build making her a pretty good split pusher/backdoor hero. and yes I was one of them back then and loved how fast towers melted.
My comfort marksman pick in epic❤. Tbh its really underrated but a niche pick. If she has advantage in the early game she won't have much problem with maintaining her 2nd skill since she will most of the time melt enemies. And you can adjust your build accordingly by selling the attack speed items to magic items. late game can be a big brain move if your mm strat is not working anymore🤣
This Change is actually a huge nerf for Chang'e. Since her S2 now counts as basic attacks, she can no longer use Ice Queen's Wand anymore. Constant slow is what allowed her to kite enemies, and now with it gone, her survivability will drop quite a lot
If his skill can't apply IQW slow, it's a nerf, but the adjustment made basic attack an basic attack, so...if they want to buff Chang'e, I think the most suitable buff is on her passive, made her passive can stay longer, currently her passive stayed only 2seconds, while Radiant Armor can be constantly activated for 3 seconds...her passive need to be longer than 3seconds, so she has chance to play against Radiant user while Radiant user can also counter Chang'e damage
I tried ShinmenTakezo's own rendition of the mm build on her, it is pretty effective since it only uses one physical item and the rest can still make use for her magic damage skills. Boots (any) Feather of Heaven Golden Staff Holy Crystal Divine Glaive Blood Wings The last two items are interchangeable meaning you can prioritize any of the two in any order. If you're ahead in gold, make the divine glaive last.
If they do that ,they should bring her old passive and adjust it , so her new passive gonna be : Every basic attack damage she deliver to any enemy will stack up to increase her magic point, each 10 basic attack will be converted to 1 stack and each stack will giver her 20 magic point
For me, my go to build for Magic damage dealers is Vampire Mallet (building items, 8% lifesteal), Feather of Heaven, Arcane Boots, Haas Claw, Concentrated Energy, Ice Queen Wand, Bloodlust Axe. This will give me +35% lifesteal, +50% Spell Vamp
Build I'd reccomend Swift boots Feather of heaven Dhs Golden staff Holy crystal Blood wings Alot of magic power even with -2 item slots and even an extra shield Personally I'd ask a teamate to tank as either lolita or franco since lolita gives an extra shield(ik it's not permanent but before a fight, can ensure the shield doesn't break early due to a flameshot/skillshot) and franco because well He goes very well with single target heroes
Something that is on the offical server is that Chang'e has that really confuses me is that the enhanced basic attack is regarded as skill damage but no where does it say that it is able to crit. Which if you have crit chance you can crit with it despite not being a basic attack.
Well basic attack effects and crit are two different things like how before wanwans ult couldn't crit despite being considered as basic attack and being able to trigger effects
@@Lucarioux obviously to boost their power cuz for example kimmy was nerfed to the ground so many times and they can't revert her back or they'd have the same problem so moonton tried to bring her back by adding crit on her skill cuz like if example dyrroth and helcurt could crit on their skills they'd be broken same with msny hard hitters
Im a classic gods and when im 2+ lose streak, i use chang e.. shes my top 4 most played hero with almost 600 matches and her wr is 71% I hope they doesn't change her cause her best ability is dealing a decent amount of damage in long distance, making her a basic attack type will ruined her
I'm using both combined attack speed and magic damage. Full attack speed don't work with enemy suppress attack like Aldous, Franco, Yin, Dyrroth, etc. Full attack speed item only work if the enemies didn't pick suppress hero attack.
Another reason why they could've done that is may be because of the ice queen wand item (or at least that's what it's called 🤣). Now the slow down effect will no longer work with her because it can only activated by skill damage, so since it's now a basic attack... Yeah.
Instead of buying attack speed, just buy Concentrated Energy. It can even counter Radiant Armor. Via the 12% Magic Damage Boost. Emblem: -Mage/Agility/Mystery Shop/Lethal Ignition Build: Arcane Shoes/Glowing Wand/Ice Queen Wand/Genius Wand/Concentrated Energy/Divine Glaive.
If the shield is a problem, use blood wings then? Personally, the buff is showing that her skills are suited to be that, skills. You can now use 2nd skill quickly as long as you hit enemies with your ult, which is equals to more shield up time, equals to more movement speed, equals to better mobility.
so like gatotkaca's passive won't give additional lifesteal now since concentrated energy is now spell vamp? gatot's enhanced basic attack increases with magic lifesteal thats why i somehow build concentrated energy.. i hope they change gatot's enhanced basic attack scale to spell vamp then because not only it helps him sustain with e-basic attack but concentrated energy helps too with his 1st skill
His passive regen actually scales with Magic Damage. I already tried using Concentrated Energy vs Haas Claw. With Concentrated his regen is 240 HP. With Haas his regen is 200 HP and 100 Lifesteal. A separate regen effects. And it doesn't scale with Spellvamp either, the regen increase because of the +70 Magic Power from Concentrated Energy. And as I expected using other Magic items with +70 Magic Power gives the same results. So I suggest using Starlium Scythe since it gives Hybrid Lifesteal and +70 Magic Power.
Starlium Scythe works well with Gatot, it gives an extra true damage to his attack. Also Concentrated Energy is an optional build for Gatot, it's only used because of the regen upon kills. Which is removed, you can use Killing Spree instead.
Alucard's Buff should be added a Lifesteal effect on his 1st and 2nd skill like Silvanna also his 2nd Skill should be his moving not pausing like Balmond
She is even with official one. I literally play her as MM. The only problem is how uncooperative my teammate is. She is pretty much the same as layla. You need tank for her to work well
Swift boots with Encourage blessing and Feather of Heaven, those are the only viable option for attack speed Chang'e, with full magic build her basic attack is no joke, mm only 2 or 3 hits on adv server
I have this build when you have one slot saved for windtalker for that fast pushing capabilities and have the standard dps mage build (ice queen, genius and glowing wand) and I save the last slot for situational item
I would like to ask if the new lifesteal (or maybe spellvamp) works with attack effects? Right now on the official server none of the lifesteal, magic lifesteal, or spellvamp work with attack effetcs. Thank you.
I think feather of have or wintalker are good but no more attack speed item if u lack damage it's useless . Change can split push or use her ult to help in teamfight and quickly go to lane to push again
Increase her shield based on basic attack or give her passive last longer, why you have to leave everything unfinished? They did the same with hanabi and now change again
now she's effective to focus on game objective like pushing turrets and help jungler hitting turtle and lord. her revamped skill 2 is not to shot enemy heroes in full blown clash. they outdamage your shield value, your buff is gone. actual revamp that she need is remove shield from skill 2 and just keep the buff for full duration. but moonton won't do this.
I think you can work high dmg basic you don’t care about the 1 shield 2 the anime’s don’t have chance to brake the shield 3 your skills will be affective
The biggest thing this change brings is now Chang'e CAN'T APPLY IQW just with 2nd skill anymore, so expect her to be not as good at kiting as before. However, IQW is still a worth buy for her since it still synergizes well with her ult
So this means ice queen wand won't work with her basic attack anymore? This is bad as this is my very first item, the slow while you move at light speed is OP as hell. I am global Chang'e ranked 134th
I tried shes op with swift boots and 5 windtalker im so fast even there mm cant catch mr and i also jave inspire my chang,e literally became zilong 2.0
No. Even in official server it is so damn hard to maintain the shield. I think shes better to do backdoor with a tons of damage to the tower and movement speed for escaping.
Nah, we already have one too many MMs to do the machine gunning.Melting the enemies with Magic Sarap will always be the most satisfying way to kill when using Chang'e.
Back in my day we had mm nana. It was funny and worked because her old cc skill gave her so much of an advantage and her old ult stun.
Damn it's been a long time since that strat was used
I remember getting savage with Nana mm build.
Good old days!
@@eddy_04 was my first savage I believe 😂.
@@Silvi28754 good old days. When mlbb was being sued by riot the first time and led to many kit and appearance changes of characters.
How people use estes with mm Item? I mean I saw someone use it and somehow having more kill than me, actual mm. Is it just his damage or kill steal?
Elgin: Making her a Marksman
Shinmen: *Making her a tank*
Tank chang’e with dire hit with execute/flameshot to secure our keels
@@cake3397 whats better than a pepper spray loli riding a moon?
A tanky pepper spray loli riding a moon
@@ojousapostlepoyoyo5thapost400 lolicous pepper spray Loli Loli(referencing konosuba)
Use wind talker and feather of heaven ONLY for attack speed items. Then magic damage the rest especially with blood wings. The shield of blood wings, prolongs the effects of 2nd skill. Plus makes chang e harder to catch due to fast movespeed windtalker+bloodwings. And you need to sell the boots in the lategame as well
I might try that along with other items.
I need a good build based on that change.
Ya we need new build for chang'e when her skill 2 is officially a basic attack
@@neiljosephconsolacion2190 2 magic dmg items first. Then you can start building foh and windtalker. So you're playing chang e like a normal mage at early, then transition to attack spd mid game
@@JLSantz OK, so what boots we need for this?
I just want to try the full Machine Gun Chang'e build as an experiment.
@@neiljosephconsolacion2190 cooldown boots. So you can focus on 2 magic damage items w/o cd reduction
She's the new Zilong for pushing only😂😂😂😂
Split pushing siblings
@@leonardophone2618 They're siblings?
@@Baddas_they are
more like a an oath type
Like he promise to be a brother to her or something
@@leonardophone2618zilong was adopted by the great dragon so technically yes
This is why Elgin is a top notch ML channel.He actually try and test weird build not just give us idea to make one to give us full insign in game which works which not. And the whole team behind so talented. Animations, ideas and updates. ALL TOP NOTCH!❤🎉
If they want to make her mage/marksman than they should increase her shield based on her attack speed or ph attack, since she needs more shield if she is marksman than if she's mage
They don't want her to be mm
they probably want her to be hybrid mage like harley
@_.._Real_Elginget a life
Way back then when there used to be the jg items and roamer items it was actually a rare couple of Chang'e mains that build Windtalker on Chang'e since it did three things that suited different type of Chang'e players. It gave Movement spd and attack spd to utilize enhanced basic attack between cooldowns but the movement spd made it relatively safe to be close to basic attack the enemy. Lastly is that Chang'e would shred towers much faster than she does with her regular magic build making her a pretty good split pusher/backdoor hero.
and yes I was one of them back then and loved how fast towers melted.
Will work on gold lane, get discount talent buy clock+lightning then windtalker.
Eojrll😅9 1:20 😮😅jg.
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Now I'm 100% sure they have plans to make her ultimate and 1st skill considered as basic attack and can damage turrets.
Nah her ult as basic attack is op
I'm here to tell y'all that Marksman Chang'e is a BIG thing now in Ranked matches.
0:07 the perfect transition 😭😭💗💗
My comfort marksman pick in epic❤. Tbh its really underrated but a niche pick. If she has advantage in the early game she won't have much problem with maintaining her 2nd skill since she will most of the time melt enemies. And you can adjust your build accordingly by selling the attack speed items to magic items. late game can be a big brain move if your mm strat is not working anymore🤣
This Change is actually a huge nerf for Chang'e. Since her S2 now counts as basic attacks, she can no longer use Ice Queen's Wand anymore. Constant slow is what allowed her to kite enemies, and now with it gone, her survivability will drop quite a lot
True, Idk what's moonton thinking, making stupid adjustments like this, Chang'e is mage yet they're turning her into a marksman😑.
Plus triggering the ice queen wand slow effect on her S2 is not even OP.
Wait didn't ice queen wand passive was slow on dmg effect?
It slowed regardless if it's basic atk or skills.
@@Ornyl it only triggers if its skill dmg.
@@qlark9699 so what about kimmey basic atks?
If his skill can't apply IQW slow, it's a nerf, but the adjustment made basic attack an basic attack, so...if they want to buff Chang'e, I think the most suitable buff is on her passive, made her passive can stay longer, currently her passive stayed only 2seconds, while Radiant Armor can be constantly activated for 3 seconds...her passive need to be longer than 3seconds, so she has chance to play against Radiant user while Radiant user can also counter Chang'e damage
I used to put attack speed item on chang'e (feather of heaven) and it works for me
I tried ShinmenTakezo's own rendition of the mm build on her, it is pretty effective since it only uses one physical item and the rest can still make use for her magic damage skills.
Boots (any)
Feather of Heaven
Golden Staff
Holy Crystal
Divine Glaive
Blood Wings
The last two items are interchangeable meaning you can prioritize any of the two in any order. If you're ahead in gold, make the divine glaive last.
They should've make her ult trigger basic attack effects and increase the range of her basic attack ngl but I think that will tad bit op
ELGIN the new emblem system will come
we win... I'm excited for the new chaos
If they do that ,they should bring her old passive and adjust it , so her new passive gonna be :
Every basic attack damage she deliver to any enemy will stack up to increase her magic point, each 10 basic attack will be converted to 1 stack and each stack will giver her 20 magic point
If they make an adjustment on her Skill 2 shield by scaling it with higher magic power then this is prolly do able
For me, my go to build for Magic damage dealers is Vampire Mallet (building items, 8% lifesteal), Feather of Heaven, Arcane Boots, Haas Claw, Concentrated Energy, Ice Queen Wand, Bloodlust Axe. This will give me +35% lifesteal, +50% Spell Vamp
Build I'd reccomend
Swift boots
Feather of heaven
Dhs
Golden staff
Holy crystal
Blood wings
Alot of magic power even with -2 item slots and even an extra shield
Personally I'd ask a teamate to tank as either lolita or franco since lolita gives an extra shield(ik it's not permanent but before a fight, can ensure the shield doesn't break early due to a flameshot/skillshot) and franco because well
He goes very well with single target heroes
Something that is on the offical server is that Chang'e has that really confuses me is that the enhanced basic attack is regarded as skill damage but no where does it say that it is able to crit. Which if you have crit chance you can crit with it despite not being a basic attack.
Well basic attack effects and crit are two different things like how before wanwans ult couldn't crit despite being considered as basic attack and being able to trigger effects
Iirc kimmy’s first skill shots are considered skill damage but they can crit
Being able to crit is not strictly limited to basic attacks, like with Franco's second skill.
Why do they make some skills able to crit it's so weird how inconsistent how some skills can while others can't.
@@Lucarioux obviously to boost their power cuz for example kimmy was nerfed to the ground so many times and they can't revert her back or they'd have the same problem so moonton tried to bring her back by adding crit on her skill cuz like if example dyrroth and helcurt could crit on their skills they'd be broken same with msny hard hitters
Im a classic gods and when im 2+ lose streak, i use chang e.. shes my top 4 most played hero with almost 600 matches and her wr is 71%
I hope they doesn't change her cause her best ability is dealing a decent amount of damage in long distance, making her a basic attack type will ruined her
We could just use change with feather and rest as magic for the skills
yeah but that would Change literally nothing and it won't maximize her basic attack properties
@@junkyyard2273 the 2nd skill cool down buff
@@junkyyard2273 its extra damage regardless. no need to maximize. she's a poke mage which can also do basic atks. simple.
I'm using both combined attack speed and magic damage. Full attack speed don't work with enemy suppress attack like Aldous, Franco, Yin, Dyrroth, etc.
Full attack speed item only work if the enemies didn't pick suppress hero attack.
Another reason why they could've done that is may be because of the ice queen wand item (or at least that's what it's called 🤣). Now the slow down effect will no longer work with her because it can only activated by skill damage, so since it's now a basic attack... Yeah.
"Those are the reasons why I think marksman Chang'e will not work"
Meanwhile, Hororo Chan:
Meanwhile shinmen : *TANK'E*
Tried it on brawl and surprisingly dominated the game 🤣
Great on you Elgin-sama I already use the Trinity build on chang'e since those item got a buff
Here in 2024 and it loooks like Chang e mm is finally here 😂
Instead of buying attack speed, just buy Concentrated Energy.
It can even counter Radiant Armor. Via the 12% Magic Damage Boost.
Emblem:
-Mage/Agility/Mystery Shop/Lethal Ignition
Build: Arcane Shoes/Glowing Wand/Ice Queen Wand/Genius Wand/Concentrated Energy/Divine Glaive.
You only need windtalker if you want some attack speed for her to push turret, that lil burst of random magic magic will help
If the shield is a problem, use blood wings then? Personally, the buff is showing that her skills are suited to be that, skills. You can now use 2nd skill quickly as long as you hit enemies with your ult, which is equals to more shield up time, equals to more movement speed, equals to better mobility.
so like gatotkaca's passive won't give additional lifesteal now since concentrated energy is now spell vamp? gatot's enhanced basic attack increases with magic lifesteal thats why i somehow build concentrated energy.. i hope they change gatot's enhanced basic attack scale to spell vamp then because not only it helps him sustain with e-basic attack but concentrated energy helps too with his 1st skill
His passive regen actually scales with Magic Damage.
I already tried using Concentrated Energy vs Haas Claw.
With Concentrated his regen is 240 HP.
With Haas his regen is 200 HP and 100 Lifesteal. A separate regen effects.
And it doesn't scale with Spellvamp either, the regen increase because of the +70 Magic Power from Concentrated Energy.
And as I expected using other Magic items with +70 Magic Power gives the same results.
So I suggest using Starlium Scythe since it gives Hybrid Lifesteal and +70 Magic Power.
Starlium Scythe works well with Gatot, it gives an extra true damage to his attack.
Also Concentrated Energy is an optional build for Gatot, it's only used because of the regen upon kills. Which is removed, you can use Killing Spree instead.
@@F3Y_030 oh yes!! im sorry i totally forgot about starlium.
oh and yes killing spree makes sense since we're gonna have the new talent system soon.
*i won't be surprised if chang'e have a spear next update*
Alucard's Buff should be added a Lifesteal effect on his 1st and 2nd skill like Silvanna also his 2nd Skill should be his moving not pausing like Balmond
That’s why I use support emblem on her. With my build, her ult is every 10 seconds, so I can spam without hesitation.
2024 Anyone? She's so popular in tournament now i think Elgin predicted this one.
Yeah, just one feather of heaven on the build is enough for my Chang'e.
They should make her ulti trigger item effect, that would be nice
This build can work if they make her ult to get basic atk bonus as well
She is even with official one. I literally play her as MM. The only problem is how uncooperative my teammate is. She is pretty much the same as layla. You need tank for her to work well
What if remove the replace those two magic items into, bloodwing (shield passive right also huge magic power), and the holy crystal
Yes, if you wanna have fun
The good old days where burst chang'e with old passive like cecilion dominate the game now become marksman
How do you get get the epic outplay notification?
Many old mlbb user used to build corrosion on change'
Elgin: "Chang'e marksman is weak without her shield.
Blood Heaven: -_-
Make windtalker and golden staff as adaptive damage that can benefit magic heroes too
U can use aegis or bloody wing to protect her shield
Swift boots with Encourage blessing and Feather of Heaven, those are the only viable option for attack speed Chang'e, with full magic build her basic attack is no joke, mm only 2 or 3 hits on adv server
Why on Earth would you ever buy Swift boots? Any other pair of boots is much better for any hero.
Right now, I'm using full damage build with 2 attack speed items: feather of heaven and windtalker.
I have this build when you have one slot saved for windtalker for that fast pushing capabilities and have the standard dps mage build (ice queen, genius and glowing wand) and I save the last slot for situational item
I would like to ask if the new lifesteal (or maybe spellvamp) works with attack effects? Right now on the official server none of the lifesteal, magic lifesteal, or spellvamp work with attack effetcs. Thank you.
It doesn't and the Dev will never do it.
It will be too op for some heroes, imagine DHS attack effects to benefits with Lifesteal.
"pretty cool right?"
me: 😀
*10 matches later*
"pretty cool right?"
me: 👁👄👁
💧 💧
I think feather of have or wintalker are good but no more attack speed item if u lack damage it's useless . Change can split push or use her ult to help in teamfight and quickly go to lane to push again
@Elgin_ scammers
Give her 1st skill CC effects and her ult basic atk effects and she can be a decent mm
Bro, when Exorcist event will come?
Worth it po ilang beses ko na po ginagawa and here i am mythic na using chang e atk speed build 😭
Increase her shield based on basic attack or give her passive last longer, why you have to leave everything unfinished? They did the same with hanabi and now change again
now she's effective to focus on game objective like pushing turrets and help jungler hitting turtle and lord. her revamped skill 2 is not to shot enemy heroes in full blown clash. they outdamage your shield value, your buff is gone. actual revamp that she need is remove shield from skill 2 and just keep the buff for full duration. but moonton won't do this.
Her old 2nd skills can do that bruh, this is just a straight up nerf.
I need a Clarity!!
Which is the best Tank in these
BELERICK or ATLAS ???
Help me❤
all her damage should be basic attack
@@plu9090exactly like
How terror will she be her ult spam could proc the item passive
@@riskaccount6347 day 1 of replying to you to STFU
@@plu9090 doesn't mean she couldn't be a unique one
@@plu9090 would be better if feather of heaven works on her ult and i think u forgot that glowing wand can buff feather of heaven's damage
now that her enhanced basic attack is considered basic attack, does that mean that ice queen wand will not trigger anymore?
Yes
MM Chang'e is literally the reason why i reached legend lmao
Who also got this recommended year later
To put it simply, itll only work against epical glories and below
@_.._Real_Elginget out
blood wings and holy crystal then those other items pretty sure that gives her enough magic power plus the shield
I think you can work high dmg basic you don’t care about the 1 shield 2 the anime’s don’t have chance to brake the shield 3 your skills will be affective
The biggest thing this change brings is now Chang'e CAN'T APPLY IQW just with 2nd skill anymore, so expect her to be not as good at kiting as before. However, IQW is still a worth buy for her since it still synergizes well with her ult
and her first skill (obvi)
So this means ice queen wand won't work with her basic attack anymore? This is bad as this is my very first item, the slow while you move at light speed is OP as hell. I am global Chang'e ranked 134th
Oh no the magic sarap is going too op
This is such a weird adjustment, how can this make her more effective?
I wonder if Rose Gold works with her skill2 just like Hanabi's skill1. 😅
She cant now use Ice queenwand on her 2nd skill
Just a feather of heaven is fine.
Ice queen wand Feathers of Heaven Golden staff magic shoes holy crystal blood wings
What if u use natan item on her
Ive used inspire change b4 and it was fun 😂
Attack Speed Chang'e lacks synergy with her S1 and ult. She's a good pusher as is, it's better to have her skills as powerful as possible
5 windtalkers troll players get ready
I tried shes op with swift boots and 5 windtalker im so fast even there mm cant catch mr and i also jave inspire my chang,e literally became zilong 2.0
Machine gun stars ✨
Second problem is she lost ice queen slow from basic attack
This year not anymore bc they removed her s2 for cc skill and her old s2 is her new passive so gold lane chang’e is now A REALITYYY👹👹👹
We finally got a Magic marksman
Kimmy?
natan?
I only use windtalker as attack speed item on Chang'e.
No. Even in official server it is so damn hard to maintain the shield. I think shes better to do backdoor with a tons of damage to the tower and movement speed for escaping.
if you want attack speed use feather of heaven and golden staff
Zilong❌
Sun❌
Natan❌
Chang'e✅
Nah, we already have one too many MMs to do the machine gunning.Melting the enemies with Magic Sarap will always be the most satisfying way to kill when using Chang'e.
Guess this video is why im meeting so many mm chang e and why they are NOT helping with winning but losing instead
Say no more to recall and emote spamming. Say no more to trash talking. Say no more to unfairness in MLBB
Ice queen won't works if the magic damage is considered as basic attack
i think its a nerf because i am currently abusing the effect of ice queen wand on her second skill basic attack
Depends on enemy composition
hey Moonton next update please turn both Chang'e and Cyclops into independent junglers kekw
I think foh and golden staff is enough for basic atk, the rest is magic item
Now change her ulti basic attack too
Idol