Oh no Josh haha it was much worse than that. Not only could we see the stadium empty cause the TV producers were making an emphasis on showing that but at the End Alabama fans in attendance did the most disrespectful thing a crowd can do that’s legal. It’s the most love hate relationship thing at that’s the famous chant we’ve all heard from a crow. NA NA NA NA! NA NA NA NA ! HEY! HEY! HEY! GOODBYE! Not only did I join in that through the TV but I went to work yesterday on no sleep and had the most efficient shift I’ve ever worked 😂👌🏾.
In my opinion, Georgia Tech's incredible win over Miami, led by their QB, was the story of the day. Anyone who watched that game knows what I’m talking about a player, banged up from an injury, irritates it in the first quarter, who kept going out there, fighting for every yard. Limping at times but still running for first downs, he sacrificed his own comfort for a chance at victory. I may be an Oregon fan, but I can’t help but respect a kid who left it all on the field.
This years Miami team is very reminiscent of the Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield OU teams. Super high powered offense that could run the score to 100 in 3 quarters with a sub-subpar defense. They lived by the “We will just out score you” mentality until they faced a team that could match them blow for blow but had enough defensive wit to get key stops with they need to.
@@samuel_heinz2649 Lol Bama is no where near this type of team. They have glimpses of being like that but they still have a decent defensive scheme. I feel like they are more like the Penn State or ND teams of recent years. Losing games they have no business losing or just flat out had a bad game. Im a diehard Longhorns fan so I lived thru those years. I have a lot of respect for OU, as much as i dont like them, i respect what they have been able to accomplish. That being said, OU had an absolute transparent defense. In order for them to win OU basically had to have the ball last or had to to have at least a 2 TD lead. The year OU played UGA in the CFP is a perfect example of this. They could never get over that hump because when it came down to it, there was always 1 or 2 teams in there way that had a offense that was just as good but had a defense that werent complete statues on the field. Miami is a mirror of this. While it’s possible that they can, I would put money on Miami making it past the first round of the playoff and thats if they win out and make it
If you look at the last 5 GA recruiting classes the thing that always stood out the most to me was it was always 70% defense heavy. I think it’s catching up with them when they play a team that’s strong in both sides of the ball.
@@dangerruss2892 Mainly they put their best athletes on defense. So a 5 star skill player usually isn’t too happy to go to a team that might try to switch their position or focused less on his position. Even when they had star players other than Bowers and Maconkey they felt under utilized compared to other star skill players in the nation. Probably hurts peoples pockets when it comes to draft time.
Thank you Josh and co. for being one of the only people to give Colorado and Deion credit for what they’ve done. And for being objective when they play bad too!
Pump your brakes my guy lol😂 Colorado has beat 1 ranked team. Deon went to Colorado bcuz they were so bad that there would be no expectations to win! Why do you think he went to Colorado out of all the schools he could've went to?!?! There's no Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Texas, or Texas A&M in the Little 12 so c'mon and stop pretending they are a true playoff team!
@wizza2315 true playoff teams are teams that win their conference if games was played on paper and not on the field no body would watch. if you cant see the difference in this team week 1 to now then obviously your Deion hatred blinds your objectivity
Colorado was practically given that game at tech though. Yeah, the fumble at the end would have won it, but the refs gave them 7 points and took potentially 14 from tech.
16 teams playing only 8 games against each other makes it very likely there will be a log jam tie for first or second. It is stupid. The SEC really Needs to play 9 conference games if they want to eliminate divisions, to at least reduce somewhat the number of ties.
I said this all year my man you are 100% spot on. I would take it a step further and play 10 because games like Bama vs Mercer in November is bullshit.
@@merus5275Even further than that. Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, and Missouri have no business being in the SEC. All these conferences have too many teams.
Josh I’ve been watching your show since before you had 20k subs and listening to you explain what padlock stat is has become a significant portion of my life
I went out and tried Zevia after hearing you speak so highly of it Josh, and I must say it is amazing. Drinking a Dr. Zevia and watching the replay before work today.
That Ole Miss DL looked really good especially Princely which sucks as a Gator fan. We developed him and he goes to have his first team all SEC year in Oxford. 😭
I think it is time to revisit the prediction that was made about conference champions in the Power 4 all being newcomers to the conferences. As of right now, the ACC is the only conference that has a legacy team as the favorite to win. But even in the ACC, SMU has the second best odds. The prediction doesn’t seem so crazy now.
As a lifelong South Carolina fan, I sincerely hope that coach Beamer understands: those hacks at the AP only ranked us because he called them out publicly, and had the nerve to stand up for his guys. Make no mistake, there is still no respect There at all! They got embarrassed that is all and I sincerely hope that coach doesn't let our guys think otherwise
But Ole Miss never won anything other than 2 fluke wins against Bama 10 years ago? Now you guys have a staple win, he will respect you more. Earned not given.
Thank you so much, Josh, for going easy on LSU a little. I was nervous watching, I didn't know if I could take the criticism I thought was coming. But it was a very nice assessment. Geaux Tigers!
I disagree that the holding call at the end of the BYU game wouldn't have been called on BYU. I mean, it's possible, but BYU had a non existent face mask called on them earlier in the game that saved that drive and led to a TD for Utah. I've also heard people who were at the game say the refs had issued Utah many warnings about holding prior to calling it.
We were really hoping Bama overlooked that whole LSU at A&M game film… you know, where the backup qb came in and ran all over LSU. And you’re sitting there with Jaylen Milroe. Vandy is gonna kill us.
Bama done the same thing to a T last year. We didn't need a film that was going to happen either way. I honestly thought they would have a plan for it but no. I was honestly stressing the LSU game more than the Tennessee game. LSU is a better team.
No. It started in the 2019 season. It was masked somewhat because of Trevor Lawrence and Etienne but it was happening. This was after Jeff Scott left as OC. The slide was mostly offensive, and before Venables even left. Obviously losing him was a big blow and there was no way there wasn't going to be a step back after that, but most fans will tell you the slide started earlier than him leaving.
SOUTH CAROLINA would steamroll the ACC and would have won it many years (when Spurrier was there he owned Clemson). But the more impressive truth is that the Gamecocks could have won the SEC this year! We all know the thievery that happened against LSU; but most people forget that Mitch Jeter (aka the most accurate Kicker in SC history) transferred as a 5th Senior to Notre Dame for the NiL bag. If Jeter had stayed there's a 99% chance he makes the winning FG against Alabama. Instead, kicker Alex Herrera who was a backup his entire 6-year(!) career, choked and the Gamecocks lost by 2 in Tuscaloosa. Yes, Ole Miss beat SC, but they are a legitimate 2-loss team and Carolina should have 1 loss and like Ole Miss, is now playing the best football in the conference.
I hear an awful lot from South Carolina fans talking smack about what they “would” do. If it’s so easy, give up your paycheck in the SEC and come show us how it’s done in the ACC/Big 12. If playoff access is so much easier, then it should be worth the pay cut
Josh, I love the show and I understand and like the JP Poll. If people confuse the AP Poll process of merit ranking with the JP Poll of rating match ups on neutral, then why do you compare them yourself? Wouldn't it make more sense to compare power rating to power rating?
In the BYU game, the officiating was not the best but it was actually in favor of the dirty Utes! There was another holding call on BYU that was less of a hold than that late holding call. Also, there were TWO facemask calls, both of which were bad calls, both of which went in favor of Utah, one of which set Utah up for their last TD. I guess you can point out bad officiating but it IS NOT why Utah lost that game!!
I think this year will show why giving conference champions an automatic bid is a terrible idea. It was touch on if oergon gets 5 and has to play georgia. Sure banger of a game, buti think that we should just rank teams 1-12 and make sure it includes the top 5 conference champions are garenteed inincludes, but just flat rank them. We're giving the championship game too much merit. No one thinks that colorado deserves a 1st round bye with 2 losses over a one loss oergon.
I used to be against this type of playoff ranking but it actually makes more sense given the scenario you described. Winning your conference would still hold weight without penalizing a better team that dropped one game and it would reduce injuries going into the playoff as someone else mentioned.
@rdelrinc i disagree. You are rewarding teams that snuck into their conference championship who then win their championship and giving them a higher seed over a team that has been dominant all year.
Crazy how Tennessee has the best defense in CFB and is sitting at #1 in the SEC and gets absolutely 0 love. Quietly one of the best teams in the country let alone SEC. Crazy how much the media hates talking about the big orange. 🍊🍊
#2 defense in college FB. Texas is #1. People only score on Texas' defense on short fields (turnovers) or when the backups are in. PFF's rankings says it all.
For anyone wondering about the once a year Whiteout thing for Penn State, they are only allowed to use the promotion once per year in a deal they made with the Utah Hockey Club (formerly Arizona Coyotes) who trademarked from back when they were in Winnipeg.
As a die hard Auburn fan, I want to thank you for your service this season Josh. Unfortunately I have made the decision to forget that football even exists and focus my full attention on basketball. Go Freights, and I’ll see you in April (after Auburn breaks my heart in the tournament once again)!
The freshman QB for Ole Miss (Simons?) deserves a hat tip. He didn't play much, but he came in cold off the bench in a huge game and did a very good job.
As a Bama fan I can’t help but wonder how those players of ours who transferred to FSU after Saban retired are feeling about that decision now. Roydell Williams was the starting RB for the Tide last season. He’s a fifth year senior this year and is now a disaster along with the rest of the Seminoles. Hope you’re enjoying Tallahassee, Roydell. You would have been lucky to be third on the depth chart at Bama this season.
I feel you but Roydell didn’t all he could do at Bama. Sat and waited turn and played his part. He made a business decision that just didn’t work out. I don’t fault him at all for leaving. Can’t say the same for a few others.
As someone who would feel that way about other transfers, roydell left because he saw the writing on the wall. He would’ve been third on the chart because jam and justice fit the scheme a lot better. Now Isiah bond is a completely different story he sold out for a lambo …
@@blk_fist3057 Same here. Roydell is an exception. I think he knew, or was told, that his role would be diminished and that Jam Miller and Justice Haynes were going to be the primary backs. Others like Malik Benson were non-factors at Alabama and are not missed at all.
I will say Josh is absolutely right about Colorado. I met 2 New Zealand guys in Guatemala this year. Don’t watch a lick of football they only care about rugby and FIBA basketball. And they LOVE Colorado and Shedeur Sanders lol
@KingE34 Many do. What I feel it should be... Each P4/P5 team should be play 3 ooc games and 9 ic games. Those 3 ooc games are the first 3 games you play, no matter what. 1 P4/P5, 1 G5, and either another P4/5, G5 or in-state lower division. After that, THEN the first official rankings should come out.
I haven’t rewatched the lsu game but it seemed to me the lsu defense had players in position to deal with milroe’s legs. I don’t think they were ready for his speed and agility. Can’t blame anyone for that dude’s a freak
Glad you gave that shout out to Diego Pavia. You should have thrown the Hugh Freeze jab in there with that too. Wazoo could very well be sitting there at 11-1 as the G6 champion with their only loss to Boise State
Dude. It’s not very hard for them to get in. They are already the second highest rated non p4 team. Ya’ll are nuckin futs if you don’t think the committee will slap the G5 in the face one more time. Wake up and pull the wool off your eyes
@@TyrantTigers I’d take Tulane, Ull, army and Boise above wazzu if I were the playoff committee and we both know at least one of those teams will win out. Even if they didn’t the g5 bid is only for conference champs and wazzu doesn’t even have a conference so they’d have to make it at large with no impressive wins and a blowout loss to Boise.
@@TyrantTigers Wazoo isn't considered a G5/6 school yet. They are considered independent like Notre Dame atm (until 2026 when the PAC reforms). They don't have a conference championship game to play in, so the best they can do is an at large spot.
Haha seriously. That’s why last years natty was so great. SEC got owned which will happen more when they don’t have Bama getting undeserved benefit every year
@@kevinpulliam3661 Michigan got the big 10 it's third national since 2000. The SEC has 14 and Bama only got 6 of those. Auburn, LSU, Florida, and Georgia got the others.
@@adamlawrence450 yeah because the SEC had an auto bid in the championship game every year no matter how they did while the Big10 had to be undefeated. Not to mention they paid players under the table. Top 2 teams in the country this year are Big10
Does the SEC go to divisions to avoid future cannibalism after next year? Seeing the talented SEC teams continually knock each other off compared to the B1G that seem to have less balance appears to be hurting the conferences chances at the CFP. Teams in the B1G seem to be thriving like Penn State who played a #19 Illinois and won, but have only played another ranked OSU and lost, but sit in the top 5. Or OSU who beat Penn and lost to #1 Oregon but haven’t played another ranked team yet. Or Indiana who hasn’t played a ranked team yet.
This is the kind of stuff fans said about the PAC-12 for years, so I think it’s kinda funny to see the SEC dealing with it and seeing their fans complain about it now that they have to deal with it.
@@Person.7.1 There are no SEC fans complaining. Our teams are just proving that they are the best in the country. Only teams that can truly compete will be Ohio State and Oregon. Oregon will probably win it all. But there will be at least 4 if not 5 SEC teams in the playoff and probably 3 Big10. That is dependent on how Indiana does at Ohio State.
@@Person.7.1I’ve never heard that about the pac 12. They’ve never had multiple top tier teams that you could consider themselves as eating their own. I can’t remember a season aside from last year where the pac 12 had more than one team that maybe had a shot at the national title.
Notable week 12 games: W Michigan @ Bowling Green (Tuesday MACtion; For 1st place) North Texas @ UTSA (Friday; Battle of the Birds) Texas @ Arkansas (A SWC rivalry renewed) Boise State @ SJSU (Upset Alert?) USA @ Louisiana (Ragin Cajuns could be 9-1!) Oregon @ Wisconsin (Upset Alert?) Tennessee @ UGA (Georgia elimination game) Kansas @ BYU (Big-12 after dark; Watch out) Washington State @ NM (Pac-12/MW after dark)
@@graychumney7734 not necessarily currently there’s 4 teams tied for 1st Miami of Ohio (4-1) beat Ohio (4-1) so they own that tiebreak. Miami of Ohio doesn’t play Bowling Green until November 30th. Winner of WMU vs Bowling Green will effectively be in first place tied with Miami OH. if WMU wins, they’ll be over Miami of OH based on point margin. Bowling Green/WMU/Miami OH (4-1) Ohio (4-1)
@@GoatedAtNFS no upset alert for Oregon. I'd argue they have played much cleaner and been more prepared this season on the road than they have at home. It'll be similar to what happened in Ann Arbor. I'm betting 37-17 Go Ducks 🟡🟢
LSWho??? 🐱 The Bayou Bengals went out and pouched the most talented (expensive) defensive coordinator in college football for a cool 2.5 mil per year, yet they got torched by the Crimson Tide last night. Brilliant! 🤦🏻♂️
We had a horrible game in all phases. And have proven to struggle against mobile QB's. This is his first year. I belive we have the right people in place. Personally I believe LSU will be dangerous in the future. As long as we keep our recruiting up. However, this year is going as I thought it would before the season started. I thought we were going to over preform for about 2 weeks. Now we just need to finish strong. If you're gonna get blown out, I could think of worst teams to get blown out by. It still stings though.
Bama beats Vandy 9 out of 10 times! However, I'm NOT taking ANYTHING away from Diego Pavia and Vanderbilt! They beat us fair and square! Bama was absolutely wasn't ready for Vandy and the best team won that day!
With the expanded playoffs, I think the conference championship games should be dispensed with. Stats would determine the conference winners. Those games are just injuring players and ruining the whole premise of the playoff system. When the loser of those games can still get in, it makes little sense. If anything, the top team gets a bye and two of the next best could play a wildcard, but I'm still against it. The game is too physical. Not like other sports where the potential for injuries are much less. You want the teams to be at their best health to get a true measure of who's the best team. Florida State lost their star QB last year and was deemed unworthy for the playoffs a spot because of it. I mean damn! Let the players get healthy for the playoff run.
I agree. I would have never agreed with this a few years ago but I can't seem to find many benefits to the CC game anymore. Getting rid of the CC game actually makes more sense. Winning your conference would still hold weight and reducing the chance for player injuries would also be a huge benefit. I really don't care to see what is essentially another conference game at the expense of player safety and a better matchup against another conference.
Born and raised in Columbia… mizzou fan and was at that game. I’m terrified watching mizzou play every time, but I didn’t have a voice by the end of that game. Maybe they lose next week, but this week was awesome. MIZ
As a SC fan, I’m a little worried. We just don’t play well against Mizz. This is the most complete team we’ve had in a long time but I still worry we might drop the ball on this one. But then again, against the top SEC teams, Mizz has looked horrible so hopefully I’m wrong.
Weird idea. No more auto bids. If you are within the top 12 at the end of the season, you can not drop out of the top 12 regardless of your championship game results. You can move up or down within the top 12 but not out of the top 12. The 4 highest ranked conference championship winners get a bye but only if they are within the final top 12 after the championship games. If there isn't 4, the highest overall seeds would get the byes respectively. Keeps championship games relevant, doesn't screw anyone else because other conferences are a hot mess.
In all these playoff/big ten championship scenarios that Josh talks about he literally cannot even fathom including IU. I want to beat OSU so bad just for that. I want to shock him. I want him to be like wow, i have to get on my show and say iu is a contender and I'm sorry for not taking them seriously as I should've
@@reecedenning3483I mean it’s true Indiana has almost not shot beating osu. Unless penn state drops a game it’s just unrealistic to think voters will put Indiana in
Not sure if anyone caught the Oregon Maryland game but Cristobal would have lost that one by 17. Miami will continue to drop winnable games in November as long as he is there
As a non Colorado fan I expected this is Colorado they have multiple players in the hall of fame and they just needed a jolt to get back but byu .... what 1 maybe back in the 60s that's is impressive
41:25 interesting FSU makes ALL this noise to escape the ACC and then this…but did it get so bad it can be twisted into even more of a reason they “need out?” I don’t see it…but people are real good at twisting a story
The story line about Georgia is how poorly Carson Beck is playing. Turn overs and failing to read the open receiver. This Georgia team is not a CFP national championship contender. That defense is but that offense is poor. Carson Beck NFL stock sliding rapidly.
If a 12-1 BYU who was undefeated in the regular season and has a win over the ACC champ in SMU is left out in favor of a ND team who lost to NIU or a 5th SEC team, we should just tear this whole thing down.
I really don't understand why you just assume only three from the big instead of four. But you are saying put five SEC in...... What? You really are an SEC homer. Like it is just a fact now. You are probably correct. But guess what all the SEC teams will not win their first round unless they are playing. Each other
I feel like this happens with South Carolina every year. They struggle or drop a game they shouldn’t, people jump off of SC and then they win a game that nobody had them winning and all of a sudden nobody has any clue what’s going on. I’m not a SC fan but I’ve felt they have been gettin a little disrespected by national media. And at the same time I understand the apprehension.
“Ill timed flag” On the Utah holding call? It was the correct call. High profile NFL Refs have chimed in and agree with the call. You must not have watched all the footage of the hold. Utah had several “ill timed calls” go their way. One directly led to a TD. But you wouldn’t see BYUs AD and coach complaining if they’d lost. No class.
@@deltaraider87 simple fix. The guy is obviously the greatest commissioner out there. Only way he will ever be replaced is if he’s made the NCAA commissioner, if the position is ever created.
I think he is right about big10 and SEC deciding to walk away if they don’t get what the want. Too bad they are too fragile in ego and weak to prove it. College football just keeps getting worse and worse.
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Spitting facts as usual! Great show as always!
Oh no Josh haha it was much worse than that. Not only could we see the stadium empty cause the TV producers were making an emphasis on showing that but at the End Alabama fans in attendance did the most disrespectful thing a crowd can do that’s legal. It’s the most love hate relationship thing at that’s the famous chant we’ve all heard from a crow. NA NA NA NA! NA NA NA NA ! HEY! HEY! HEY! GOODBYE! Not only did I join in that through the TV but I went to work yesterday on no sleep and had the most efficient shift I’ve ever worked 😂👌🏾.
How do I feel about Colorado?
I could go either way
In my opinion, Georgia Tech's incredible win over Miami, led by their QB, was the story of the day. Anyone who watched that game knows what I’m talking about a player, banged up from an injury, irritates it in the first quarter, who kept going out there, fighting for every yard. Limping at times but still running for first downs, he sacrificed his own comfort for a chance at victory. I may be an Oregon fan, but I can’t help but respect a kid who left it all on the field.
Initiates not irritates. But your point is correct.
pain is temporary, glory is eternal 😤
@@exprop3622no, it is in fact “irritates”
@@exprop3622 No I meant he irritated an injury he already had, "irritates it in the first quarter." I am fairly sure is correct.
I just don't understand why more people are not talking about his performance in that game.
This years Miami team is very reminiscent of the Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield OU teams. Super high powered offense that could run the score to 100 in 3 quarters with a sub-subpar defense. They lived by the “We will just out score you” mentality until they faced a team that could match them blow for blow but had enough defensive wit to get key stops with they need to.
Not a bad take…
You are absolutely right. Also keep in mind Joel Klatt said this about this years Bama team LOL (horrible take by him)
@@samuel_heinz2649 Lol Bama is no where near this type of team. They have glimpses of being like that but they still have a decent defensive scheme. I feel like they are more like the Penn State or ND teams of recent years. Losing games they have no business losing or just flat out had a bad game. Im a diehard Longhorns fan so I lived thru those years. I have a lot of respect for OU, as much as i dont like them, i respect what they have been able to accomplish. That being said, OU had an absolute transparent defense. In order for them to win OU basically had to have the ball last or had to to have at least a 2 TD lead. The year OU played UGA in the CFP is a perfect example of this. They could never get over that hump because when it came down to it, there was always 1 or 2 teams in there way that had a offense that was just as good but had a defense that werent complete statues on the field. Miami is a mirror of this. While it’s possible that they can, I would put money on Miami making it past the first round of the playoff and thats if they win out and make it
Thanks for being my Sunday run companion josh and crew. Great show as always!
If you look at the last 5 GA recruiting classes the thing that always stood out the most to me was it was always 70% defense heavy. I think it’s catching up with them when they play a team that’s strong in both sides of the ball.
I agree I feel like they never hit on 5 star skill position players it’s always trenches
@@dangerruss2892 Mainly they put their best athletes on defense. So a 5 star skill player usually isn’t too happy to go to a team that might try to switch their position or focused less on his position. Even when they had star players other than Bowers and Maconkey they felt under utilized compared to other star skill players in the nation. Probably hurts peoples pockets when it comes to draft time.
It's kinda crazy Bowers wasn't a 5 star
Defense wins championships!
@@DevinHoytIf that defense can shut out the other's offense. Game has changed. You gotta have both.
Thank you Josh and co. for being one of the only people to give Colorado and Deion credit for what they’ve done. And for being objective when they play bad too!
Pump your brakes my guy lol😂 Colorado has beat 1 ranked team. Deon went to Colorado bcuz they were so bad that there would be no expectations to win! Why do you think he went to Colorado out of all the schools he could've went to?!?! There's no Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Texas, or Texas A&M in the Little 12 so c'mon and stop pretending they are a true playoff team!
@wizza2315 true playoff teams are teams that win their conference if games was played on paper and not on the field no body would watch. if you cant see the difference in this team week 1 to now then obviously your Deion hatred blinds your objectivity
Colorado was practically given that game at tech though. Yeah, the fumble at the end would have won it, but the refs gave them 7 points and took potentially 14 from tech.
@@wizza2315 Stop moving the goalposts.
16 teams playing only 8 games against each other makes it very likely there will be a log jam tie for first or second. It is stupid. The SEC really Needs to play 9 conference games if they want to eliminate divisions, to at least reduce somewhat the number of ties.
I said this all year my man you are 100% spot on. I would take it a step further and play 10 because games like Bama vs Mercer in November is bullshit.
@@merus5275Even further than that. Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, and Missouri have no business being in the SEC. All these conferences have too many teams.
Ik right. They need to play a real team like Purdue or northwestern
@@efrenduartemartinez9874Purdue would trash Alabama on a neutral field
So are you gonna pay the extra millions to allow them to get paid for those additional games?
I thought the mantra of the show was you talk about winners first? But you opened up with Georgia tonight?
Lol😂 georgias 15 minutes of fame is over!
Honestly he does this quite often!
He worships UGA. He’s a Georgian. It’s why he slavishly covers the SEC as if it’s all there is in college football.
Josh I’ve been watching your show since before you had 20k subs and listening to you explain what padlock stat is has become a significant portion of my life
I went out and tried Zevia after hearing you speak so highly of it Josh, and I must say it is amazing. Drinking a Dr. Zevia and watching the replay before work today.
That Ole Miss DL looked really good especially Princely which sucks as a Gator fan. We developed him and he goes to have his first team all SEC year in Oxford. 😭
I think it is time to revisit the prediction that was made about conference champions in the Power 4 all being newcomers to the conferences. As of right now, the ACC is the only conference that has a legacy team as the favorite to win. But even in the ACC, SMU has the second best odds. The prediction doesn’t seem so crazy now.
As a lifelong South Carolina fan, I sincerely hope that coach Beamer understands: those hacks at the AP only ranked us because he called them out publicly, and had the nerve to stand up for his guys. Make no mistake, there is still no respect There at all! They got embarrassed that is all and I sincerely hope that coach doesn't let our guys think otherwise
I need Josh to apologize immediately for not coming to Oxford and choosing to going to a game that happens every single year.
So does LSU vs Alabama
He goes to the games he thinks will be closer. Nobody saw bama blowing LSU out coming. Especially in Baton Rouge.
@@billeffingmurray1224and at night when they don't lose
But Ole Miss never won anything other than 2 fluke wins against Bama 10 years ago? Now you guys have a staple win, he will respect you more. Earned not given.
Thank you so much, Josh, for going easy on LSU a little. I was nervous watching, I didn't know if I could take the criticism I thought was coming. But it was a very nice assessment. Geaux Tigers!
I disagree that the holding call at the end of the BYU game wouldn't have been called on BYU. I mean, it's possible, but BYU had a non existent face mask called on them earlier in the game that saved that drive and led to a TD for Utah. I've also heard people who were at the game say the refs had issued Utah many warnings about holding prior to calling it.
Sad Mark Harlan was the topic instead of talking about a gutsy performance from Utah, and another game winning drive by BYJew.
We were really hoping Bama overlooked that whole LSU at A&M game film… you know, where the backup qb came in and ran all over LSU. And you’re sitting there with Jaylen Milroe.
Vandy is gonna kill us.
I hoping we can get it figured out by then. But I'm not getting my hopes up.
Bama done the same thing to a T last year. We didn't need a film that was going to happen either way. I honestly thought they would have a plan for it but no. I was honestly stressing the LSU game more than the Tennessee game. LSU is a better team.
These playoff scenarios are great! I love it! Thanks Josh!
Clemson's slide seemed to start with the loss of their DC to Oklahoma. A move that in hind sight worked out bad for both schools
No. It started in the 2019 season. It was masked somewhat because of Trevor Lawrence and Etienne but it was happening. This was after Jeff Scott left as OC. The slide was mostly offensive, and before Venables even left. Obviously losing him was a big blow and there was no way there wasn't going to be a step back after that, but most fans will tell you the slide started earlier than him leaving.
100%
Josh always lifts my spirits when I’m down ❤️
SOUTH CAROLINA would steamroll the ACC and would have won it many years (when Spurrier was there he owned Clemson). But the more impressive truth is that the Gamecocks could have won the SEC this year! We all know the thievery that happened against LSU; but most people forget that Mitch Jeter (aka the most accurate Kicker in SC history) transferred as a 5th Senior to Notre Dame for the NiL bag. If Jeter had stayed there's a 99% chance he makes the winning FG against Alabama. Instead, kicker Alex Herrera who was a backup his entire 6-year(!) career, choked and the Gamecocks lost by 2 in Tuscaloosa. Yes, Ole Miss beat SC, but they are a legitimate 2-loss team and Carolina should have 1 loss and like Ole Miss, is now playing the best football in the conference.
Mitch transferred because SC didn't offer further classes in his degree field
South Carolina is a middle of the pack in any league.
No they wouldn’t
I hear an awful lot from South Carolina fans talking smack about what they “would” do. If it’s so easy, give up your paycheck in the SEC and come show us how it’s done in the ACC/Big 12. If playoff access is so much easier, then it should be worth the pay cut
@@cbphoto87I mean I’m no SC fan but they would run the big 12 and be top 3 in the ACC
Josh, I love the show and I understand and like the JP Poll. If people confuse the AP Poll process of merit ranking with the JP Poll of rating match ups on neutral, then why do you compare them yourself? Wouldn't it make more sense to compare power rating to power rating?
I agree 💯 what is the point comparing the 2
In the BYU game, the officiating was not the best but it was actually in favor of the dirty Utes! There was another holding call on BYU that was less of a hold than that late holding call. Also, there were TWO facemask calls, both of which were bad calls, both of which went in favor of Utah, one of which set Utah up for their last TD. I guess you can point out bad officiating but it IS NOT why Utah lost that game!!
I think this year will show why giving conference champions an automatic bid is a terrible idea. It was touch on if oergon gets 5 and has to play georgia. Sure banger of a game, buti think that we should just rank teams 1-12 and make sure it includes the top 5 conference champions are garenteed inincludes, but just flat rank them. We're giving the championship game too much merit. No one thinks that colorado deserves a 1st round bye with 2 losses over a one loss oergon.
I used to be against this type of playoff ranking but it actually makes more sense given the scenario you described. Winning your conference would still hold weight without penalizing a better team that dropped one game and it would reduce injuries going into the playoff as someone else mentioned.
Totally agree
@rdelrinc i disagree. You are rewarding teams that snuck into their conference championship who then win their championship and giving them a higher seed over a team that has been dominant all year.
@@jamie-dempsey yes, I was actually agreeing with you in my reply. I suck at typing tho. 😂
@@rdelrinc we're good. All civil here. I agree that typing without editing sucks
SMU will beat Miami for the ACC title. The problem with Miami is that they haven't played a ranked team and won't play one until the ACCCG.
Disappointed that you didn’t give any coverage to the cyclones this week. KU is the best 6 loss team in the country.
Crazy how Tennessee has the best defense in CFB and is sitting at #1 in the SEC and gets absolutely 0 love. Quietly one of the best teams in the country let alone SEC. Crazy how much the media hates talking about the big orange. 🍊🍊
#2 defense in college FB. Texas is #1. People only score on Texas' defense on short fields (turnovers) or when the backups are in. PFF's rankings says it all.
For anyone wondering about the once a year Whiteout thing for Penn State, they are only allowed to use the promotion once per year in a deal they made with the Utah Hockey Club (formerly Arizona Coyotes) who trademarked from back when they were in Winnipeg.
As a die hard Auburn fan, I want to thank you for your service this season Josh. Unfortunately I have made the decision to forget that football even exists and focus my full attention on basketball. Go Freights, and I’ll see you in April (after Auburn breaks my heart in the tournament once again)!
I think it’s a cool story that, now that troops are home, the service academies are good again 🙏
The freshman QB for Ole Miss (Simons?) deserves a hat tip. He didn't play much, but he came in cold off the bench in a huge game and did a very good job.
I agree with you 100% on ur playoff sinerio possibilities...
Kirby said ole miss is the best team they’ve played so far. Reading too much into that. I would say the same thing after a big road loss.
I flew from NC to tiger stadium to watch that game and as a BAMA fan and my birthday weekend, IT WAS
GREAT TO SEE THE TIDE ROLL
Vols got top baseball wrapped up!
As a Bama fan I can’t help but wonder how those players of ours who transferred to FSU after Saban retired are feeling about that decision now. Roydell Williams was the starting RB for the Tide last season. He’s a fifth year senior this year and is now a disaster along with the rest of the Seminoles. Hope you’re enjoying Tallahassee, Roydell. You would have been lucky to be third on the depth chart at Bama this season.
Grass ain't always greener! RTR🐘🏈🏆
Richard young is a beast and Daniel Hill is looking great too! Roydell would've been 4th string
I feel you but Roydell didn’t all he could do at Bama. Sat and waited turn and played his part. He made a business decision that just didn’t work out. I don’t fault him at all for leaving. Can’t say the same for a few others.
As someone who would feel that way about other transfers, roydell left because he saw the writing on the wall. He would’ve been third on the chart because jam and justice fit the scheme a lot better. Now Isiah bond is a completely different story he sold out for a lambo …
@@blk_fist3057 Same here. Roydell is an exception. I think he knew, or was told, that his role would be diminished and that Jam Miller and Justice Haynes were going to be the primary backs. Others like Malik Benson were non-factors at Alabama and are not missed at all.
I will say Josh is absolutely right about Colorado. I met 2 New Zealand guys in Guatemala this year. Don’t watch a lick of football they only care about rugby and FIBA basketball. And they LOVE Colorado and Shedeur Sanders lol
I was in Germany and met people there who love them as well
Georgia will revert back to 00’ dawgs with Mike Bobo. What a joke of an offense
Why is it South Carolina and Georgia have 7 conference games and the other 6 and SC is ranked so low? One more win we hope coming this weekend.
Maybe the SEC should actually play 9 conference games like the others.
And not schedule community colleges in November 🤫
@@DoubleBGreenthey also require a p5 team in noncon. Maybe other conferences should do that too.
Bye weeks are the reason they all play 8 through by the end of season. Georgia only has one sec match up left and Bama has two left
@KingE34 Many do.
What I feel it should be...
Each P4/P5 team should be play 3 ooc games and 9 ic games.
Those 3 ooc games are the first 3 games you play, no matter what. 1 P4/P5, 1 G5, and either another P4/5, G5 or in-state lower division. After that, THEN the first official rankings should come out.
@ so Florida can’t play Florida state in rivalry week? Clemson South Carolina? Louisville Kentucky? Notre dame also exists btw.
I haven’t rewatched the lsu game but it seemed to me the lsu defense had players in position to deal with milroe’s legs. I don’t think they were ready for his speed and agility. Can’t blame anyone for that dude’s a freak
They still lost to a Kentucky team that is 1-6 in the SEC, that's probably why people would doubt they can win multiple big games in a row.
Glad you gave that shout out to Diego Pavia. You should have thrown the Hugh Freeze jab in there with that too. Wazoo could very well be sitting there at 11-1 as the G6 champion with their only loss to Boise State
They’re not in the g5 tho. They’re a p5 team with zero impressive wins playing a g5 schedule.
Dude. It’s not very hard for them to get in. They are already the second highest rated non p4 team. Ya’ll
are nuckin futs if you don’t think the committee will slap the G5 in the face one more time. Wake up and pull the wool off your eyes
@@TyrantTigers I’d take Tulane, Ull, army and Boise above wazzu if I were the playoff committee and we both know at least one of those teams will win out. Even if they didn’t the g5 bid is only for conference champs and wazzu doesn’t even have a conference so they’d have to make it at large with no impressive wins and a blowout loss to Boise.
@@TyrantTigers Wazoo isn't considered a G5/6 school yet. They are considered independent like Notre Dame atm (until 2026 when the PAC reforms). They don't have a conference championship game to play in, so the best they can do is an at large spot.
Nothing better than a JP SEC cope stream
Haha seriously. That’s why last years natty was so great. SEC got owned which will happen more when they don’t have Bama getting undeserved benefit every year
@@kevinpulliam3661 Michigan got the big 10 it's third national since 2000. The SEC has 14 and Bama only got 6 of those. Auburn, LSU, Florida, and Georgia got the others.
@adamlawrence450 Well, they won't get 50% of the bids this year will ser
@@adamlawrence450 yeah because the SEC had an auto bid in the championship game every year no matter how they did while the Big10 had to be undefeated. Not to mention they paid players under the table. Top 2 teams in the country this year are Big10
A listless Ohio State literally played 5 games and still made the playoff in 2020.
Does the SEC go to divisions to avoid future cannibalism after next year? Seeing the talented SEC teams continually knock each other off compared to the B1G that seem to have less balance appears to be hurting the conferences chances at the CFP. Teams in the B1G seem to be thriving like Penn State who played a #19 Illinois and won, but have only played another ranked OSU and lost, but sit in the top 5. Or OSU who beat Penn and lost to #1 Oregon but haven’t played another ranked team yet. Or Indiana who hasn’t played a ranked team yet.
It doesn’t hurt the conference. It just proves that the SEC is an absolute gauntlet of a conference.
This is the kind of stuff fans said about the PAC-12 for years, so I think it’s kinda funny to see the SEC dealing with it and seeing their fans complain about it now that they have to deal with it.
@@Person.7.1 There are no SEC fans complaining. Our teams are just proving that they are the best in the country. Only teams that can truly compete will be Ohio State and Oregon. Oregon will probably win it all. But there will be at least 4 if not 5 SEC teams in the playoff and probably 3 Big10. That is dependent on how Indiana does at Ohio State.
@@Person.7.1I’ve never heard that about the pac 12. They’ve never had multiple top tier teams that you could consider themselves as eating their own. I can’t remember a season aside from last year where the pac 12 had more than one team that maybe had a shot at the national title.
@@Person.7.1 Naw, Pac 12 wasn't good until last year.
Ole miss, the university of mississippi , is a great university. Thanks for the kudos.
As a Canes fan, you hit the nail on the head... Miami got pulled over!!
How is pulling someones jersey not holding? It is.
Notable week 12 games:
W Michigan @ Bowling Green (Tuesday MACtion; For 1st place)
North Texas @ UTSA (Friday; Battle of the Birds)
Texas @ Arkansas (A SWC rivalry renewed)
Boise State @ SJSU (Upset Alert?)
USA @ Louisiana (Ragin Cajuns could be 9-1!)
Oregon @ Wisconsin (Upset Alert?)
Tennessee @ UGA (Georgia elimination game)
Kansas @ BYU (Big-12 after dark; Watch out)
Washington State @ NM (Pac-12/MW after dark)
Isn’t Miami Ohio number 1 in the mac?
I can guarantee you that Texas will be looking for revenge for what happened in Little Rock in 2021.
@@graychumney7734 not necessarily
currently there’s 4 teams tied for 1st
Miami of Ohio (4-1) beat Ohio (4-1) so they own that tiebreak. Miami of Ohio doesn’t play Bowling Green until November 30th. Winner of WMU vs Bowling Green will effectively be in first place tied with Miami OH. if WMU wins, they’ll be over Miami of OH based on point margin.
Bowling Green/WMU/Miami OH (4-1)
Ohio (4-1)
@@GoatedAtNFS no upset alert for Oregon. I'd argue they have played much cleaner and been more prepared this season on the road than they have at home. It'll be similar to what happened in Ann Arbor. I'm betting 37-17
Go Ducks 🟡🟢
Y’all done called every game Oregon done played since Ohio state a “UPSET ALERT” and they totally whoop ass just stop saying that bro 😂😂😂😂
Listening from Evergreen , Alabama
Listening from somewhere deep in the South Alabama woods! RTR🐘🏈🏆
Great video!!!
Hey hey hey...how about a little segment on my Wahoos upsetting Pitt!? Josh, Virginia never gets talked about (rightly so), this is our ONE moment! 🤣
You should promote Acadamy’s nice selection of fishing gear.
Luckily for me I will be able to start visiting QuikTrip soon. The closest gas station to my new house is a QuikTrip!
What happened to "Dark Kirby being activated" after the Texas game. 🤔
Josh, would love to hear your thought on Clemson making playoffs after Miami loss
LSWho??? 🐱 The Bayou Bengals went out and pouched the most talented (expensive) defensive coordinator in college football for a cool 2.5 mil per year, yet they got torched by the Crimson Tide last night. Brilliant! 🤦🏻♂️
now do Vandy 😂
We had a horrible game in all phases. And have proven to struggle against mobile QB's. This is his first year. I belive we have the right people in place.
Personally I believe LSU will be dangerous in the future. As long as we keep our recruiting up. However, this year is going as I thought it would before the season started. I thought we were going to over preform for about 2 weeks. Now we just need to finish strong.
If you're gonna get blown out, I could think of worst teams to get blown out by. It still stings though.
Bama beats Vandy 9 out of 10 times! However, I'm NOT taking ANYTHING away from Diego Pavia and Vanderbilt! They beat us fair and square! Bama was absolutely wasn't ready for Vandy and the best team won that day!
@wizza2315 VU > bama 7 out of 10, yall never led in that game & they manhandled you for 60 minutes
Colorado is such a good story in college football that they’ve been telling us about it for two years…
Bobo holds the record for interceptions at UGA, not suprised Carson is throwing interceptions left and right
College football man…❤️
With the expanded playoffs, I think the conference championship games should be dispensed with. Stats would determine the conference winners. Those games are just injuring players and ruining the whole premise of the playoff system.
When the loser of those games can still get in, it makes little sense. If anything, the top team gets a bye and two of the next best could play a wildcard, but I'm still against it. The game is too physical. Not like other sports where the potential for injuries are much less. You want the teams to be at their best health to get a true measure of who's the best team. Florida State lost their star QB last year and was deemed unworthy for the playoffs a spot because of it.
I mean damn! Let the players get healthy for the playoff run.
I agree. I would have never agreed with this a few years ago but I can't seem to find many benefits to the CC game anymore. Getting rid of the CC game actually makes more sense. Winning your conference would still hold weight and reducing the chance for player injuries would also be a huge benefit. I really don't care to see what is essentially another conference game at the expense of player safety and a better matchup against another conference.
People forget Tennessee did this to LSU in Death Valley in the 2022 season. Pretty sure it was the same score, too. No one talks about that ever.
One would expect a major recruiting hit from such a massive coaching change over. Probably indicates another reliance on the portal this go around
very grateful for LSU or us Georgia fans would’ve gotten the sarah mclachlan special
1:13:36 alright, leave out ND and call it a day
Yeah, Army plays ND lol. If Army goes undefeated with a win over 10-2 ND they deserve to be in a 12 team playoff
Ever since he committed his talents to QT Josh has been loving the staying local and driving to games for the tour 🤣
All due respect sir, but the best college baseball program currently resides in Knoxville, home of Tony Vitello and the National Champions 😎🍊🍊🍊
SO TRUE
Yep! I was taken aback when I heard him say LSU. Hopefully just a memory lapse from Josh.
Historically Texas is in that discussion though not recently. Y'all have really come on in the last decade.
Indiana vs Notre Dame in the first round would end hunger in the state of Indiana. What does the model say about an IU vs ND game?
SEC AD poked the bear with Ole Miss. They're playing angry now. Dont underestimate them.
Could Lanning been Kirbys secret sauce?
At this point in the season u are who u are, Miami can’t play defense. Thats who they are 💯
Not mentioned in the scenario with bsu getting the 4 seed bye, and Oregon playing the first round, is the fact that Oregon beat them head to head.
Born and raised in Columbia… mizzou fan and was at that game. I’m terrified watching mizzou play every time, but I didn’t have a voice by the end of that game. Maybe they lose next week, but this week was awesome. MIZ
As a SC fan, I’m a little worried. We just don’t play well against Mizz. This is the most complete team we’ve had in a long time but I still worry we might drop the ball on this one. But then again, against the top SEC teams, Mizz has looked horrible so hopefully I’m wrong.
Mike norvell shouldn’t have fired anyone from his staff. I blame the opt outs. The starters are still opting out from that bowl game against Georgia.
Weird idea.
No more auto bids. If you are within the top 12 at the end of the season, you can not drop out of the top 12 regardless of your championship game results. You can move up or down within the top 12 but not out of the top 12. The 4 highest ranked conference championship winners get a bye but only if they are within the final top 12 after the championship games. If there isn't 4, the highest overall seeds would get the byes respectively.
Keeps championship games relevant, doesn't screw anyone else because other conferences are a hot mess.
Well said on the White Out lack of respect.
In all these playoff/big ten championship scenarios that Josh talks about he literally cannot even fathom including IU. I want to beat OSU so bad just for that. I want to shock him. I want him to be like wow, i have to get on my show and say iu is a contender and I'm sorry for not taking them seriously as I should've
well barely beating a bad michigan team is not a good start on the national stage
@GoatedAtNFS OSU barely beat a bad Nebraska team that we 50 pieced
Well said! Go Big Red
@@reecedenning3483I mean it’s true Indiana has almost not shot beating osu. Unless penn state drops a game it’s just unrealistic to think voters will put Indiana in
This show is very SEC heavy. I personally think if you want good commentary on the other conferences, other analysts would be better.
It's wild to grasp, but LSU's SEC title hopes are not done. If UGA beats Tennessee, then LSU will be near the top of tiebreaker scenarios for 2nd.
Pate & Cubelic need to do a separate collaboration series/show well beyond Cole Cutts.
Wonder where FSU will rank in in his ACC program rankings this offseason. The 3 year rolling snapshot does not look very good
No coverage of Tennessee, but you cover Mizzou vs Oklahoma? I'll pass.
Who did tennesee play this week for him to cover????
😂 Josh gets enough SEC bias flack already
Does Danny Kinnell have any eligibility left at FSU?
Not sure if anyone caught the Oregon Maryland game but Cristobal would have lost that one by 17. Miami will continue to drop winnable games in November as long as he is there
As a non Colorado fan I expected this is Colorado they have multiple players in the hall of fame and they just needed a jolt to get back but byu .... what 1 maybe back in the 60s that's is impressive
It’s bad enough we had to play Washington for our white out game. Peacock was the icing on the cake
I’ve never changed my opinion on Ole Miss even with a combined 6 point loss.
Can someone share the link to the prediction machine that Josh mentioned in tonights episode?
41:25 interesting FSU makes ALL this noise to escape the ACC and then this…but did it get so bad it can be twisted into even more of a reason they “need out?” I don’t see it…but people are real good at twisting a story
Pretty sure milldoo just realized hes the new and inproved Tim Tebow
The story line about Georgia is how poorly Carson Beck is playing. Turn overs and failing to read the open receiver. This Georgia team is not a CFP national championship contender. That defense is but that offense is poor. Carson Beck NFL stock sliding rapidly.
They set these narratives up based on script, they rigg it with this kind of logic so dumb sheep never pick up on it, it's all controlled outcomes
It’s the Mike Bobo effect. Fire his you know what.
If a 12-1 BYU who was undefeated in the regular season and has a win over the ACC champ in SMU is left out in favor of a ND team who lost to NIU or a 5th SEC team, we should just tear this whole thing down.
I really don't understand why you just assume only three from the big instead of four. But you are saying put five SEC in...... What? You really are an SEC homer. Like it is just a fact now. You are probably correct. But guess what all the SEC teams will not win their first round unless they are playing. Each other
I feel like this happens with South Carolina every year. They struggle or drop a game they shouldn’t, people jump off of SC and then they win a game that nobody had them winning and all of a sudden nobody has any clue what’s going on. I’m not a SC fan but I’ve felt they have been gettin a little disrespected by national media. And at the same time I understand the apprehension.
“Ill timed flag” On the Utah holding call? It was the correct call. High profile NFL
Refs have chimed in and agree with the call. You must not have watched all the footage of the hold. Utah had several “ill timed calls” go their way. One directly led to a TD. But you wouldn’t see BYUs AD and coach complaining if they’d lost. No class.
Did you forget what Tony Vitello has done & is doing in Knoxville?!
The SEC could have up to 8 teams tied which is crazy
Sankey needs to be replaced
@@vols-deep why?
@@BryceMoore-ch1bl SEC only plays 8 conference games? Everyone else plays 9
@@deltaraider87 simple fix. The guy is obviously the greatest commissioner out there. Only way he will ever be replaced is if he’s made the NCAA commissioner, if the position is ever created.
Mizzou wins out
LSU wins out
Bama wins out
Ole Miss wins out
Georgia wins out
A&M loses to Auburn, beats Texas
8 way 2 loss SEC tiebreaker
Where is this tie breaker calculator?
The white out was wasted on a huskie team that hasn't been good all season, too bad it wasn't thee OSU that in night
I think he is right about big10 and SEC deciding to walk away if they don’t get what the want. Too bad they are too fragile in ego and weak to prove it. College football just keeps getting worse and worse.
It is less and less college football and more and more mercenary football