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  • @JoshPateCFB
    @JoshPateCFB  14 дней назад +18

    Keep the show free - SUBSCRIBE to the channel! - JP

    • @Mars-
      @Mars- 14 дней назад

      BEEN subscribed day 1.
      great content.
      Also have shared with people.
      Hay, just wanna say, another great show.
      rReally liked the mailbag segment and your advice on pursuing career and your direct insights from EXPERIENCE.
      KEY
      You ever think of doing this as an addiotional path ?
      You did really well,man.
      Keep on keeping on.
      I will do same . THANK YOU for all your work
      Until next time ...🔈

    • @sarahcedarland3221
      @sarahcedarland3221 14 дней назад +1

      already am

  • @tomjames7889
    @tomjames7889 14 дней назад +27

    Your best episode ever. Fantastic perspectives on personal development.

  • @chrismelder4013
    @chrismelder4013 14 дней назад +4

    Your description of a full body cramp is spot on. There really is a moment where you think “this might be it.” 😂

  • @cheriekalel9578
    @cheriekalel9578 14 дней назад +5

    Thank you, Josh, for the advice you gave on becoming a successful person. These points you raised resonated with me. I'm no twenty-something, lol, but I have, in the last 2 years, discovered who I am, what talents I possess, and what I'm passionate about. And your words encourage me to keep going in this direction, instead of how I used to go. Thank you for being who you are!

  • @drwinstonOboogi
    @drwinstonOboogi 14 дней назад +84

    When people are fighting over conference superiority, I try to remember these wise words....

    "No color, no religion, no football conference affiliation should come between us, we are all children of God." - Meemaw

    • @haroldfarquad6886
      @haroldfarquad6886 14 дней назад +1

      The dregs at Notre Dame don't have to trouble themselves with conference comparisons because they're just actually better than everyone else and deserve to go first in line because they're so star spangled awesomeeeeee

    • @lawrencematthes8948
      @lawrencematthes8948 14 дней назад +2

      You'll have to ask the hillbilly conference.😅😅

    • @kevinpulliam3661
      @kevinpulliam3661 14 дней назад +1

      @@haroldfarquad6886sorry everyone else sold out and don’t care about tradition

    • @natlovell122
      @natlovell122 14 дней назад +3

      Also Meemaw, “May the team that pays their players most win it all”

    • @Jackson09
      @Jackson09 13 дней назад +1

      @@lawrencematthes8948 easy there player

  • @marktreece5932
    @marktreece5932 14 дней назад +5

    This may sound odd but I appreciate how well spoken you are. When you’re talking about things you explain and convey your point very well.

  • @KingE34
    @KingE34 14 дней назад +125

    I’m a Florida fan and I’m glad the sec has fallen a bit so hopefully we can stop with this stupid conference nationalism stuff. None of it matters and it just makes people mad.

    • @tylerwill7259
      @tylerwill7259 14 дней назад +13

      That’s what made me start actually liking big ten teams. I’m an Ohio state fan that lives in South Carolina and having to grow up with South Carolina and Georgia fans living through the success of Florida, Alabama, and LSU drove me insane. I want us to go back to cheering for teams and not conferences (wishful thinking lol)

    • @GoatedAtNFS
      @GoatedAtNFS 14 дней назад +3

      and this is how a Notre Dame fan thinks, which is why they are independent getting near 20 million dollars in the CFP alone

    • @shepherd5234
      @shepherd5234 14 дней назад +5

      "Conference nationalism", wow. Also, I think it's far from over.

    • @Tc1043-q2v
      @Tc1043-q2v 14 дней назад +1

      lol

    • @Tc1043-q2v
      @Tc1043-q2v 14 дней назад +1

      ​@@tylerwill7259😂 hilarious

  • @kevindaniels9943
    @kevindaniels9943 14 дней назад +18

    Thanks for bringing out the penalty no calls

  • @avi7278
    @avi7278 14 дней назад +51

    there are 10 year old kids in Columbus who have been rooting for Ohio State all their lives and have never seen a holding call called on an opponent.

    • @williamwagner79
      @williamwagner79 14 дней назад +1

      Let's not act like this is just an Ohio Stank problem, the bottom ten are
      The Suckguys
      Michigan State
      Northwestern
      Michigan
      Georgia Tech
      Kansass
      Penn State
      Houston
      Western Michigan
      Kansas State

    • @jasonboness3871
      @jasonboness3871 14 дней назад +10

      Holy S the Ohio State fans are the worst.

    • @bassraider5914
      @bassraider5914 14 дней назад +1

      Wah wah😢😢😢

    • @ThatFalloutGod
      @ThatFalloutGod 14 дней назад

      Welcome to Alabama football for 20 years.
      I've said for a decade that the refs have been blatantly against Bama during Saban's tenure, only for a Michigan fan to prove it right and the jealous morons to lie otherwise.

    • @Chrismatica
      @Chrismatica 14 дней назад

      @@jasonboness3871cry

  • @8bitbanana
    @8bitbanana 14 дней назад +32

    there are kids that are 10 years old in Ohio named Cardale rooting so hard for the buckeyes to win a natty

    • @frankschaefer8890
      @frankschaefer8890 14 дней назад +2

      Kids named Jt and Braxton as well

    • @marine76a
      @marine76a 14 дней назад +1

      Baby mama wannabes galore haha

    • @jejbsh2191
      @jejbsh2191 14 дней назад +1

      Lol what a terrible name may as well name your kid foodstamps

    • @austinhanvey4288
      @austinhanvey4288 13 дней назад

      Damn can I like this twice lol

    • @JackycClark
      @JackycClark 11 дней назад

      Cardale Jones Cardale Jones
      the whole state of Ohio is cheering for Cardale Jones .

  • @demodiums7216
    @demodiums7216 14 дней назад +14

    FUN FACT: Ohio State's opponents offensive lines have not been called for holding since Sept 21st. ZERO power 4 teams have been called for offensive holding against Ohio st all season

    • @jasonboness3871
      @jasonboness3871 14 дней назад

      FUN FACT: Ohio State fans are insufferable.

    • @jeffreyprice9790
      @jeffreyprice9790 14 дней назад

      Jack JT tyleik and ty Hamilton one or all are held literally every play.
      That flip while quin is getting sacked that resulted in first down was blatant as well as the deep pass later on to golden putting texas in the redzone it was both ends held. Even in the goal line toss where they lost yards buckeye dlimeman are held. The refs just aren't calling it. There's a clear agenda

    • @davidabramson3020
      @davidabramson3020 13 дней назад +2

      OSU should been called for holding against the Huskers. On one occasion, Husker Jimari Butler was grabbed and almost tackled by OSU lineman right next to QB which would likely have been a sack but no call was made.
      Not to mention a horrible spot on the ball that possible cost the Huskers a TD right before halftime. Other calls favored OSU as well that game.

  • @basscat2107
    @basscat2107 14 дней назад +8

    Im just here to remind everyone that the SEC has had the most NFL draft picks every single year since 2007. Yes, that is 17 straight years.

    • @GarthVader42
      @GarthVader42 14 дней назад +1

      @basscat2107 that makes it even more embarrassing they haven’t won a title in how long? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @benyetsko4402
      @benyetsko4402 14 дней назад +2

      The NFL drafts off of talent, not necessarily how good of a football player you are. The SEC has the most wasted and underdeveloped talent every year in college football.

    • @CallMeSlavik
      @CallMeSlavik 13 дней назад +2

      That also doesn’t equate to SEC teams being the best teams

    • @jessebaker1283
      @jessebaker1283 12 дней назад +2

      No one cares

    • @dreams3184
      @dreams3184 11 дней назад

      2 maybe 3 years .... Buddy reaching at air 😂😂 😂​@@GarthVader42

  • @AdamGoad-l5h
    @AdamGoad-l5h 14 дней назад +10

    Bangkok Thailand checking in

  • @MrMagee35
    @MrMagee35 11 дней назад

    A lot of great advice here Josh. Would love to hear another segment like this again in the future

  • @DGolfer60
    @DGolfer60 14 дней назад +1

    love these shows and can't wait for the podcast only episodes; not just college football, but some related concepts and great advice as well

  • @johnlee7085
    @johnlee7085 14 дней назад +2

    Ol Miss is a historically high level program but you don’t mention the Huskers?

  • @jacobmcdonald9016
    @jacobmcdonald9016 12 дней назад +2

    1:00:20 fantastic advice

  • @philliplamay5923
    @philliplamay5923 14 дней назад +3

    Btw.. SEC is far from dead. 3 teams in the playoff isn’t dead.

    • @PureGeauxld
      @PureGeauxld 12 дней назад

      Closer to a 2007 type year where a lot more teams are down or rebuilding and will be a lot better next season.

  • @dalemurphy808
    @dalemurphy808 13 дней назад

    Congratulations on your 600 show!!!

  • @gavinmccabe1845
    @gavinmccabe1845 14 дней назад +3

    You can’t say we can’t learn anything about the expanded playoff for a couple years and then turn around a minute later and say this is what we’ve learned this year from the playoffs. Yes, Boise SMU got handled. The results don’t change how exciting this year was for smu fans

  • @jarretthoogerhyde1633
    @jarretthoogerhyde1633 13 дней назад

    Josh, this show is so entertaining. Incredible work.

  • @maxwellr2533
    @maxwellr2533 14 дней назад +4

    I legit didnt know Josh didnt have a desk bc the Headline Bar covered it lol

  • @JSCONCH
    @JSCONCH 14 дней назад +49

    If you are following a non SEC team, you have heard main stream media force feed SEC propaganda to an unreasonable extent for 10 plus years. The gap wasnt huge, Saban carried the weight and all SEC teams shouted SEC SEC. The rest of the country detests that garbage. The real question: did SEC schools have more under table paying players than other conferences pre NIL? Yes. Things have changed folks. Cope

    • @SteveAllen-x2m
      @SteveAllen-x2m 14 дней назад +8

      Did it ever occur to you that maybe the south just has better football players.

    • @1mgofepinephrine120
      @1mgofepinephrine120 14 дней назад +15

      @@SteveAllen-x2mA couple of SEC teams were allowed to pay players the last 15 years while everybody else was sanctioned for giving a recruit a ride to the airport.
      If you don’t know this is a fact you’re either rooting for SEC team from a far, have head in the sand or are just lying.

    • @SteveAllen-x2m
      @SteveAllen-x2m 14 дней назад

      @@1mgofepinephrine120Do you not think teams other teams have not been doing the same thing.

    • @artoftruthpodcast8678
      @artoftruthpodcast8678 14 дней назад +8

      @@SteveAllen-x2myes, that got payed to play in the Southeast. All the top qb’s come out of California, decade after decade, but went to SEC schools cause they could actually get payed to play without penalties and sanctions. Now it’s legal to pay players everywhere, so SEC dominance is gone‼️

    • @artoftruthpodcast8678
      @artoftruthpodcast8678 14 дней назад

      @@1mgofepinephrine120 perfectly stated!

  • @benyetsko4402
    @benyetsko4402 14 дней назад +1

    ASU getting screwed last second vs Texas kinda kills your argument about the expanded playoff. Funny how you mentioned the other 2 teams but not them.

  • @russellknox5342
    @russellknox5342 14 дней назад +9

    Great freaking show Josh. I loved the food poisoning story. We've all experienced something horribly similar and equally ridiculous. And your advice to twenty somethings was awesome. This is coming from a 60 year old man that has figured out who he is, and took a lot of time getting there.

    • @atenco01
      @atenco01 14 дней назад

      Dang.. the Chilly’s legal Dept. is not happy…🤣🤣🤣

  • @D3RTmusic
    @D3RTmusic 14 дней назад

    Did not expect to be grabbing the journal for lifestyle note taking but here we are. Great perspective and encouragement ❤️

  • @carol-annskinner4828
    @carol-annskinner4828 14 дней назад

    Best show ever!!!! Thanks a bunch 😊

  • @BNSF39
    @BNSF39 14 дней назад +3

    I would argue that We need to give the current model a few more years. Schools like SMU, BSU, IU can now use that they made the playoff as a recruitment tool. As they have a chance to make the playoffs more often, the better recruitment will become which has the potential to make for better games.
    Locking out certain teams based on the beauty salon contest is ridiculous. The isn't the Miss America Pageant or the high school King and Queen popularity contest. Its Football!!!! Rankings are a Salon fest....

  • @anonanon938
    @anonanon938 14 дней назад +4

    You are a SEC homer. Ok. We get it. Let's move on.

  • @TheUtubus
    @TheUtubus 14 дней назад +2

    one thing is sure- Josh always seems to be right.

    • @zplapplap
      @zplapplap 14 дней назад +1

      Unless he’s picking a contest in which Notre Dame is a belligerent. 😄

  • @tylerskywalker5862
    @tylerskywalker5862 13 дней назад

    Josh you have said, "do you really think having more teams would've had a different outcome?", in reference to the national champion. Not saying that's the crux of your argument against expansion but you have made the point.

  • @tuck421
    @tuck421 14 дней назад

    Despite all the success, this was one of the more frustrating seasons for me as a Texas fan. The lack of appreciation for Quinn Ewers was hard to watch. He’s the best QB we have had since I was in elementary school (I’m in medical school now). It was frustrating to see him not get the support he deserved. It wasn’t his fault the team couldn’t run for more than 2 yards a carry in all 3 games we lost. Just like any player to ever exist, there were some things he could have done better. But… my goodness was he a huge part of bringing Texas back to prominence
    Thank you Josh for being the first media figure to show him some love

  • @tjsokkerplayer
    @tjsokkerplayer 14 дней назад +1

    Josh, you are missing the fact that current day NIL doesn't work without the expanded playoffs.
    Recruits go to the smaller school instead of hogging up the bench at the Blue bloods. These recruits will go becuase they can get paid and there is still somewhat of a path for them to the CFP.
    If we still had 4 teams, more players would wait behind the starters and only those few schools would be in the top 4. We now have more representation and more overall interest. And for some schools, just making the CFP is worth celebrating and making their season important. It isn't just National Championship or bust. Programs like SMU, Arizona State, Boise all had grear stories that would have been glossed over any other year. Sure they lost, but they have plenty to be proud of.

  • @GoatedAtNFS
    @GoatedAtNFS 14 дней назад +20

    the dominance is over. but don’t think one bad year means they’re gonna become the ACC and not win a NY6 or CFP game in 5 years. the fans just watched kirby smart get boat raced by and tell themselves “so my coach has been here for 5+ years and can’t even beat him but marcus freeman gets its done in 3.” since the end of 2020 I believe lane kiffin is the only active SEC coach to beat him. and now, kirby’s not even top of the conference.
    remember: Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi, Kentucky, South Carolina, has no pro sports. Tennessee’s and Louisiana’s pro sports currently all stink. the SEC is currently the best basketball and baseball conference. the fans treat the colleges like a religion. the conference will be fine.

    • @MS79Canesfan
      @MS79Canesfan 14 дней назад

      Lol it was a decade since big 10 won a natty and the ACC has 2 almost 3.! And if ND wins that's pretty much a draw between ACC and Big10. Then ESECPN has been paying kids for 20 yrs whilst or conference didn't and now it is showing proof.! 🤡

    • @aroncampos5720
      @aroncampos5720 14 дней назад +2

      2 bad year

  • @SenorHomeslice
    @SenorHomeslice 14 дней назад +11

    Everything you said about Alabama being the primary driver of the SEC dominance was true. The part where you waved some shiny keys was in asserting that Alabama fell off because Nick Saban stepped down. I see it the other way around, that Nick Saban stepped down once he realized he no longer had a built-in competitive advantage now that NIL and the transfer portal were in play. Why risk a legacy with repeated fifth place finishes in the conference when you can go out on top and let the inevitable fall from the heights land on someone else’s shoulders?

    • @dontayewhittaker5687
      @dontayewhittaker5687 14 дней назад +2

      You already know they'll admit that he retired for that reason, Saban knew his competitive advantage was gone and bounced to preserve his legacy

    • @hueycheek2801
      @hueycheek2801 14 дней назад +1

      You are absolutely correct

    • @ThatFalloutGod
      @ThatFalloutGod 14 дней назад +3

      "Built-in competitive advantage," said is just code for, "Saban is the best to ever do it, and I'm angry that he wasn't my coach."
      Saban left because the sport became too fucked up for coaches due of the lack of an overarching entity to regulate everything. What's the point in doing it when you're Saban, at his age, and you're not coaching anymore, just dealing with snot nosed brats wanting thousands of dollars just to do what they already signed-up for?

    • @SenorHomeslice
      @SenorHomeslice 14 дней назад +1

      @ The writing was on the wall when he started whining that A&M was paying their players more than Bama boosters could. He was built to thrive in one model, the model changed, he ran to a TV network.

    • @ThatFalloutGod
      @ThatFalloutGod 14 дней назад +3

      @ So long as you forget and lie about the fact that everyone around Saban changes the sport in major ways multiple times over 15 years to stop him, and he only kept dominating.
      So long as you forget the fact that he went to the Playoffs with a horrendous QB and mediocre coordinators in his last season, and would've gone to the National Championship if his QB was atrocious.
      Forget that he was in the National Championship in 2021, and would've won if he didn't lose half his secondary and top two WRs. Forget that he was going to the Playoffs the following year, if his QB didn't get injured and wasn't asked to do it all.
      So long as you forget and lie, you can say whatever you want about Saban lol.

  • @tjm745
    @tjm745 14 дней назад +2

    I had food poisoning from chili's 3 weeks ago!!

  • @jeremysanders8766
    @jeremysanders8766 14 дней назад

    I agree Josh. There will not be a team from any conference that reels off a streak of 15-16 years of dominance in this new CFB era.

  • @DevinHoyt
    @DevinHoyt 14 дней назад +1

    The sec is just very competitive always has been, but now theres 16 teams instead of 14 and no divisions so it looks chaotic at the end of the season if you just look at records but its really not, its pretty self explanatory and of course you got playoffs at the end of the season 🍻🤝 the sec will always be better then all other conferences its the gateway to the NFL

  • @aaronross3728
    @aaronross3728 13 дней назад

    Josh, if you could only have one, which would you choose? You choose how many teams are in the playoff (2 or 4). Or you choose what day the national championship game is on (Saturday).

  • @xWhiteRice
    @xWhiteRice 13 дней назад

    “a broken crayon still draws” and “nobody motivates the tiger” were worth the price of admission

  • @rodgerbane3825
    @rodgerbane3825 14 дней назад +4

    The Big10 is maybe a touch better at the very tip top. The SEC is however, still a LOT deeper in good/decent team. About the only bad team in the SEC this year was Mississippi State and MAYBE Kentucky. The SEC grinds down teams. Texas got off lucky with a much softer schedule that most SEC teams this year and IMO, its no surprise they made it deeper into the playoffs than anyone else.

  • @UNDERGROUNDKK
    @UNDERGROUNDKK 14 дней назад

    Fire episode and wise words spoken!!!

  • @MS79Canesfan
    @MS79Canesfan 14 дней назад +4

    You literally just lied to yourself and everyone saying you seen 0 evidence or heard 0 evidence of pay for play ESECPN when actual ESECPN coaches have admitted it and players!. You could have just said look idk and maybe there was maybe there wasn't to deflect but to say 0 lol.!

  • @emmanuelchristian1454
    @emmanuelchristian1454 12 дней назад +1

    If Ohio is the most penalized team in the nation with the least amount of penalties called on the opposing team, that just mean they're undisciplined.... I don't think they have the refs in their back pockets, but you can't justify that stat by inferring the refs are in everyone else's back pockets.
    If OSU wants to avoid being penalized, they have to play smarter

  • @PureGeauxld
    @PureGeauxld 12 дней назад

    Alright Josh... Your segment on sinning at QuikTrip really got me giggling. Thanks for that

  • @jimib3
    @jimib3 13 дней назад

    The JP advise 💯

  • @williamflattery6019
    @williamflattery6019 14 дней назад

    Broken crayons can still color. Phenomenal. Thanks, JP

  • @lawrencematthes8948
    @lawrencematthes8948 14 дней назад +4

    As a Buckeye fan, I'll whole heartily tell you we been getting hozed by the refs for the longest. See 2019 Clemson. Or to a lesser degree, the Georgia game when the flag disappeared on several occasions. Especially the targeting call on Harrison. If anyone says it wasn't, I challenge you to compare it to the one called on us against Trevor Lawrence.

    • @adambruce5082
      @adambruce5082 13 дней назад

      Keep crying about it and maybe they'll award you consolation prize natty

  • @aj41926
    @aj41926 13 дней назад

    One note on the sec being down.... look at the qb & wr play, some great players, but spread out throughout the conference. This coming from a big 10 fan

  • @TheAtlantaDrive
    @TheAtlantaDrive 14 дней назад +1

    Quarterback play in the SEC was the worst it’s been in a long time

  • @bukithegreat
    @bukithegreat 14 дней назад +6

    Pate newly framed SEC take means that he thinks i’m dumb and I don’t remember what he was saying 2 months ago

  • @christianriviere9625
    @christianriviere9625 14 дней назад

    26:05 I just got off of a carnival cruise lol. Thankfully was able to watch the semis though!!

  • @lawrencematthes8948
    @lawrencematthes8948 14 дней назад +8

    I've always maintained that the SEC was the top conference but not nearly as superior as their fan bases tend to believe. All we heard was just look at NFL talent. So I actually did that today. Just a small sample size of NFL rosters of the 12 NFL teams playing this weekend in the playoffs. All the roster information was taken from ESPN rosters on line and includes IR and practice rosters and the college listed for all players on those teams. Incredibly, the SEC had 208 players listed on those 12 teams rosters. Anyone want to guess how many the Big 10 has??? 205. I'm will to bet SEC fans will have a hard time understanding this. My conclusion is what I thought. Not nearly as one sided as people think. And secondly, this isn't an overnight thing. The last decade has been evening out. Your welcome!

    • @user-tz2zz5ij1s
      @user-tz2zz5ij1s 14 дней назад +4

      My question is why only use playoff teams when information on the whole league is available. I found that odd. So I checked, SEC 562, B1G 535. Now considering Texas, OU, UCLA, USC, Oregon, and Washington joined these respective conferences this year, any player from those teams in the NFL did not play in the SEC or B1G. Adjusting for the actual current NFL players that played in those conferences 484 SEC, 389 B1G. That is a 21.7 percent difference. That’s a pretty large gap when it comes to statistics.
      My question is, do you want to count the players that didn’t compete in either conference while we were watching those previous seasons, or do you say since their schools were in a different conference during the seasons they played, they don’t count towards SEC or B1G nfl players?

    • @user-tz2zz5ij1s
      @user-tz2zz5ij1s 14 дней назад +3

      Taking the playoff teams and adjusting for the players actually drafted out of the SEC and B1G you have 186 SEC players and 152 B1G players, a 20 percent difference.
      I like numbers and your original post was fundamentally flawed because you counted players from schools that weren’t in either conference last year, and weren’t drafted out of either conference last year. The 9 players from Oregon in the NFL playoffs played in the Pac, and never had anything to do with the B1G. Same goes for the rest of the expansion teams.

    • @lawrencematthes8948
      @lawrencematthes8948 14 дней назад

      @@user-tz2zz5ij1s to answer your first question. I wasn't going to make a career of it. LoL. How did you come up with your information? I did my own research and made it known. I wasn't going to use anything to manipulate the results such as Joe burrow or Jameson Williams playing longer in the big ten than the SEC for example. Or Justin Fields playing longer in the sec

    • @lawrencematthes8948
      @lawrencematthes8948 14 дней назад

      @@user-tz2zz5ij1s huh? All I did was count the players listed on ESPNs listed rosters. I only used playoff rosters because I was watching the playoffs at the time and wasn't going to make it a career. Geez. No manipulation whatsoever. And was very transparent with my source, as well as mentioning it was a small sample size. Seems y'all going to great lengths to undermine my post without revealing any sources. And I'm the manipulator? That's hilarious. Also very typical!!!

    • @user-tz2zz5ij1s
      @user-tz2zz5ij1s 14 дней назад +2

      @@lawrencematthes8948I simply corrected your numbers because I was interested. The list you used counted the 6 expansion teams, which makes it fundamentally flawed since no current player in the NFL from those 6 teams played in the SEC or B1G. It’s not a hard concept to follow. A player drafted from Texas in the 2024 NFL and previous drafts was drafted out of the Big 12, because that’s the conference they played in. To simplify it if you don’t understand, Bo Nix was counted as a B1G player on the Broncos. Bo Nix was drafted from Oregon. Oregon was not in the B1G last year, he never played in the B1G. But since Oregon is now in the B1G, they have him as a player from the B1G.
      I just realized I had a major flaw, you’d have to take today’s current NFL roster, and go back and remove all players from the expansion SEC and B1G conferences to get an accurate number. It all depends on if you want to be intellectually dishonest. Did we ever see Bo Nix play in the B1G? No. Therefore he shouldn’t count as a player from the B1G. That is if you really want to know the real difference or if you want to stop when you see numbers you like.

  • @Soopology
    @Soopology 14 дней назад +2

    Lmao no. No matter the conference that went on the run the SEC did (really about 4 programs), the sport would’ve blown up more anyway. And likely would’ve been even bigger because the East/MidWest/West has bigger markets. OR the sport would’ve been on this path anyway, because programming was on the upswing regardless of what’s on it. Sports benefitting from TV & social media, not the other way around.

  • @hunter24seven
    @hunter24seven 14 дней назад +2

    ​​I don't put much weight on Texas not running the ball well against Ohio State, they only had 53 yards on 30 attempts on ASU. They haven't run the ball well for 2 games now.
    As far as the SEC, they will still be a premier conference. They might not win as many Natys with Saban in retirement. It wasn't that long ago but from the years of 1981 through 2005 the SEC only had 4 Natys. The BIG12 had 6 during that stretch. The U had 5 in the same span. How times change.

  • @gabe5319
    @gabe5319 14 дней назад

    It was Ryan Leaf! 😂😂 Food poisoning sets in within a couple of hours. Often within less then 60 minutes…
    Chillis should be vindicated😂
    Love the story Josh. The show is great.
    Go Canes 🙌🏼… we are making progress

  • @tjsokkerplayer
    @tjsokkerplayer 14 дней назад

    As far as your theory about conditioning of the playoff system. I would argue that had already happened with the previous 4 team format, and also the top 2 team championship before that. Most fanbases checked out early becuase once they lost one game or so, they had little to play for. The same few teams were dominating. Maybe there was some meaning early on for the bowl system, but after time fans aren't that excited to rotate playing in the TaxSlayer Bowl or Mayo Bowl. They become immune to it. College Football needed a new format to keep up with the changes in NIL and conference realignment. These mega conferences can't just have 1 representative. Especially when their championship participants are decided on some tiebreaker technicality.

  • @RB-.-
    @RB-.- 14 дней назад

    100% correct about late season games from SMU/Colorado/UNLV/Boise etc being given artificial "meaning". Its all a charade and your analogy about suspending disbelief like watching a horror movie is perfect!

  • @HawgWyldFishing
    @HawgWyldFishing 14 дней назад

    22:47 That’s what someone once called “whistling by the graveyard”.

  • @kevinfry1850
    @kevinfry1850 14 дней назад

    You’re really gonna see the premium put on top flight coaching in the portal era, I think that’s one narrative you’re going to see take shape more as the years go on.

  • @spidey475
    @spidey475 13 дней назад

    So I'm curious who would have been in the 4-team playoff? Without auto-bids, who would have been the top 4?

  • @nicholashardin3704
    @nicholashardin3704 14 дней назад +1

    As an Alabama fan, I’ve been saying that no team out there is going to dominate like Alabama with Nick Saban. I believe there’s going to be top teams every year but nothing like the dynasty bama had. Roll Tide!

    • @Southprong59
      @Southprong59 14 дней назад +1

      No team will ever dominate again due to the 12 team playoff, NIL, and the portal - why do you think Saban retired???

    • @nicholashardin3704
      @nicholashardin3704 14 дней назад

      @ I definitely agree with you

  • @lawrencematthes8948
    @lawrencematthes8948 14 дней назад +1

    Saban situation begs the question of was Alabama really as dominant as they appeared pre playoff years? They've had been losing steam since the playoffs started when compared to the previous half dozen years. Would have been interesting to have seen a playoff format back then. Id still say Bama would have won more often than not, but it at least is worth consideration

    • @jesserp23
      @jesserp23 14 дней назад

      How much were they playing players?

    • @lawrencematthes8948
      @lawrencematthes8948 14 дней назад

      ​@@jesserp23whatever they were paying them, evidently they can't afford payroll now. . It's a competitive market now. They aren't just bidding against Ole Miss and Auburn. Prices have went up. Don't take my word for it, ask their AD.

    • @HouseOfThe8Strings
      @HouseOfThe8Strings 14 дней назад +1

      They were winning 10-12 games a year back then. Pretty sure they'd still have been in the playoffs

    • @lawrencematthes8948
      @lawrencematthes8948 14 дней назад

      @@HouseOfThe8Strings obviously. My point is most years the best competition wasn't.

  • @NorthGeorgiaJosh
    @NorthGeorgiaJosh 13 дней назад

    59:44 Great segment! listen to it people in your 20s

  • @nochilllwill
    @nochilllwill 12 дней назад

    thank you for the advice to us 20 somethings josh

  • @Southprong59
    @Southprong59 14 дней назад +1

    No one team will ever dominate again due to the 12 team playoff, NIL, and the portal - why do you think Saban retired???

  • @matthewbenton7344
    @matthewbenton7344 13 дней назад

    The SEC hasn’t fallen. The issue now is that the SEC grinder during the regular season means that other conference teams will naturally come into the postseason fresher, with more depth, and with a psychological edge, as they’ll have a reserve of motivation and energy already drained from SEC teams during the season.

  • @davidmayers1645
    @davidmayers1645 14 дней назад

    Texas’ secondary deserves huge credit for keeping that game close to the bitter end. If take away TH’s end of half TD pass which was 100% YAC, Howard barely threw for 200 yards. The completely shut down #4 and contained #2 very well for OSU.
    I don’t think ND’s secondary can replicate that… but they are going to have to have a shot

  • @NeonShadow2724
    @NeonShadow2724 13 дней назад

    On the topic of “meaningful games” can we also acknowledge that neither Texas v Georgia games really mattered, or the fact that it didn’t matter if Ohio State won The Game against Michigan, or that Oregon could’ve lost 2 down the stretch and it really wouldn’t have mattered?

  • @blakeharrison3972
    @blakeharrison3972 14 дней назад

    Is the podcast version on Spotify?

  • @KJdatdude77
    @KJdatdude77 13 дней назад

    This was a great video, as a Panthers fan I'm so damn proud of the way Young bounced back. I hope this our franchise QB, get some speed at wide receiver, load up the defensive roster and we could be cooking in 2025. Oh and my importantly David Tepper.......STAY OUT OF THE FOOKN WAY!!!!!!! KEEPPOUNDING

  • @jacobehrhart7288
    @jacobehrhart7288 14 дней назад +2

    I don't hate the SEC but i would be lying if i said i wasn't happy that the conference superiority that has been dying down now Nick Saban being gone and NIL and the transfer portal opening up has brought the conference down they will still have great teams and any year they could have a national championship but the days of the super teams in the SEC like 2019 LSU or 2020 Bama are done i would even care to say i don't even think this Ohio State team with this stacked of a roster will happen again i think as more teams (like Michigan this season) really open up to NIL and transfer portal we will see more teams come in and be one of the 8-10 or even 12 teams that any year could win it

  • @danny.daveto
    @danny.daveto 14 дней назад +2

    Josh acts like he didn't say certain teams wouldn't be in and there will be too many blowouts

  • @lawrencematthes8948
    @lawrencematthes8948 14 дней назад +7

    I don't see how any games got devalued during the regular season. The Oregon -Ohio st game and the Michigan game weren't in any way, other than Michigans 6-5 record, which has nothing to do with the playoffs. The only thing getting devalued is the championship teams that never had to compete with all the top teams. Hell, it brings more value to winning the championship.

    • @Oscar-gv1si
      @Oscar-gv1si 13 дней назад +1

      Ohio states lost to Michigan would’ve knocked them out of the 4 team tournament, ie winning the Michigan game didn’t really matter when it came to getting into the postseason devaluing that game

    • @PureGeauxld
      @PureGeauxld 12 дней назад +1

      Well last year, OSU would be out of the playoffs because of the loss to UM. This year, people laughed at OSU losing (like normal), but the loss did not phase anyone because everyone knew OSU was still in the playoffs.

    • @lawrencematthes8948
      @lawrencematthes8948 11 дней назад

      @@Oscar-gv1si it didn't matter this year. Won't be that way every year. I mean, next year Michigan should be a contender. It could at minimum effect seeding. Possible that the loser doesn't make the playoffs. Also could effect conference championship game

    • @lawrencematthes8948
      @lawrencematthes8948 11 дней назад +1

      @@PureGeauxld your right. Honestly I think if they would have played Michigan in the playoffs last year they would have beaten them. Oregon could have beat Washington again in a rematch. Georgia could have beaten Alabama as well. Hell I thought Georgia and Ohio St were the two best teams last year and neither played in the playoffs. Look at the difference the playoffs made with Ohio State. Nobody showed up in their bowl game last year. But this year and 2022 seemed to bring out the best in them

    • @lawrencematthes8948
      @lawrencematthes8948 4 дня назад

      @@Oscar-gv1si I'm quite sure everyone, including Ohio St coaches and players knew that before the game even started. Still was a typical OSU vs Michigan game. OSU lost two years ago and still made the 4 team playoff. Did it devalue it then?

  • @johnlee7085
    @johnlee7085 13 дней назад

    Would you feel the same way about Texas if asu had made the FG before the half and won by 3?
    My guess is you would have even if others would have flipped out, and you didn’t mention it.
    I’d say they are back because Sark is the right guy at the right time creating the right program.

  • @tylerburkham2382
    @tylerburkham2382 14 дней назад

    I think the main reason for the SEC being "normal teams" is the transfer portal...you have a third and fourth string in the SEC, seeing that they can start immediately somewhere else. So the talent is spreading out

  • @user-tz2zz5ij1s
    @user-tz2zz5ij1s 14 дней назад

    I think the B1G benefited mostly from getting rid of divisions, while the SEC hurt themselves by getting rid of divisions. Both conferences have been top heavy, but the drop off from the top few teams in the B1G is a lot bigger than it is in the SEC

  • @philliplamay5923
    @philliplamay5923 14 дней назад

    The last time OSU played ND was a grueling game, in which Ryan Day went on air after yelling at Lou Holtz. While I do think OSU can and should win this game… ND is built much like Michigan.. I’m very curious to see how this goes. ND is very capable of pulling this off. While back 2 back B10 titles would be very nice.. there’s also something just poetic about Michigan and ND going back to back. Two of the best brands of all time. This is quite awesome IMO!

  • @theronr7464
    @theronr7464 14 дней назад +1

    Wait, I thought the best recruits come from SEC stomping grounds, play for SEC teams and are drafted into the NFL while playing for SEC teams. I guess the coaches in the SEC forgot how to coach and the players just aren't that good.

  • @johnlee7085
    @johnlee7085 14 дней назад

    The penalties against tOSU analysis is missing anything more than rankings. What’s the difference across the board? It’s like when you talk about your ratings(?) and add that there’s as much difference between n and n+1 as between n and n-5. Is it one penalty or five penalty difference or parts of a penalty per game?

  • @liberphilosophus7481
    @liberphilosophus7481 13 дней назад

    SEC hasn't been dominant in a long time; it's been a top-heavy league since 2017 with the only 2 consistent elite teams being Alabama and Georgia. With Bama losing their coach and the transfer portal allowing teams to match Georgia depth, the college football championship race is wide open.

  • @RushFanatic87
    @RushFanatic87 13 дней назад +1

    Coming Spring 2025: The MotiPate Series.

  • @donwood3967
    @donwood3967 14 дней назад +1

    Was Ryan Day good enough to recruit Caleb Downs, Quinshon Judkins, or their other transfer portal players? No. Was Ohio St. good enough to develop those players? No. Now Ohio St. has tampered with the best outside linebacker coming back in the SEC, Damon Wilson from Georgia. College Football has become "rob from the competent, to give to the rich". It has become all about who's alumni has the biggest wallets. $1 million dollars plus a lamborghini was not enough for Carson Beck so go to Miami for $4 million which is more than he would have made in his first NFL contract. Is the SEC dominance over? yes, because NIL and the Transfer Portal ruined college football. That's why the greatest coach this sport has ever seen retired.

  • @akjohn31
    @akjohn31 14 дней назад +3

    Josh, if the goal of the playoff is to crown the best team and national champion. Then I think your logic with the four team playoff is off. That’s what people are saying. There might be a difference of “deserving” being in question as you stated. But we live in an era of where postseason will now matter more than regular season (which I am for). I think this playoff structure while highly flawed proves that the best team to win a national championship was inconclusive in a four team format.

    • @adamfuller5640
      @adamfuller5640 14 дней назад

      Why do you want the postseason to matter more than the regular season?

    • @akjohn31
      @akjohn31 14 дней назад

      @@adamfuller5640because it is the path that matters to crown a national champion. I believe we can create criterion and get smart people in a room to put merit on the regular season for inclusion in playoff while making the playoff format equitable to teams based on their performance. The men with the mustaches need to step down in all of this.

  • @johnlee7085
    @johnlee7085 14 дней назад

    Question for Miami seems to be are there WRs for Carson to throw to? Will they be as good or better than uga? Carson should attract some talent if it’s available.

    • @BUCKStrickland-c7t
      @BUCKStrickland-c7t 13 дней назад

      Last year they had better remains to be seen this year. Losing Restrepo, Arroyo, and Horton hurts a lot. Restrepo is like two guys basically

  • @williamhopkins7065
    @williamhopkins7065 14 дней назад

    I would say this, if you dont want to say its better, then its a preference. I prefer this to the 4. More matchips of teams thatbwere good in the season with something on the line. Alot of these schools would have had opt outa if it was fiesta bowl and one and done.

  • @Waywardwulf
    @Waywardwulf 14 дней назад

    Food poising. Been there done that ole buddy. It was ground meat on ice day 5 at the duck camp.Two of us were pretty sure we were gonna die. Lessons learned.
    Geaux Tigers 💪🐅🎵🎶💜💛🏈

  • @Keenafy
    @Keenafy 14 дней назад +2

    Hearing Josh pate utter the words "Auburn is terrible" makes my heart smile man 🙂

  • @tjsokkerplayer
    @tjsokkerplayer 14 дней назад

    The only reason the SEC has dropped off is because kids would rather get paid to start at some second tier program than sit and be developed on the bench at a top tier program. Those smaller programs can pay their starters more than the big prograns can pay their bench.
    I think its overall a good thing for the landscape of collehe football. But also, there are many kids getting thrown into the fire, only to transfer around a few times and end up missing out on developing to their potential.

  • @johnathanhust4587
    @johnathanhust4587 11 дней назад

    We don't need the motivational speech and the aside of how to achieve great things.
    Have you ever seen the show Ted Lasso?
    I know you've watched Saban with his press conferences. Just like Ted Lasso, Saban wasn't heavy handed. He spoke through the press conference (i.e. you speaking through your show) to deliver his message.
    It's hard but you can do it.

  • @aroncampos5720
    @aroncampos5720 14 дней назад +4

    SEC era is over. NIL has leveled the playing field. Former SEC players are slowly coming out and quitely admitting they got paid to play in the SEC. Now the B1G has the green light to give out the bag.

  • @Gx257g
    @Gx257g 14 дней назад

    The expanded playoffs is better for the sport for the fact that half the majority of the fans actually got to care what their team was doing in November and not just saying oh well only these 6 teams have a chance if even getting in.

  • @johnlee7085
    @johnlee7085 13 дней назад

    You bring up bsu and SMU as the lower teams that get blown out as an argument but ignore asu playing in one of the best games (OT). Not terribly different than remembering TCU getting blown out by Georgia but ignoring the fact that they beat Michigan.

  • @paulbyrne2929
    @paulbyrne2929 14 дней назад

    Miami might have the high octane in dynamite we ain't seen since Larry Coker ☆ But I was disappointed in the Krystalballs defense the second phase of the season "

  • @tylerwill7259
    @tylerwill7259 14 дней назад +2

    Pate is a master salesperson with his sponsors haha

  • @brandonmcbroom9209
    @brandonmcbroom9209 14 дней назад

    Hella holding all game during the Texas and OSU game. Guess it’s good they let the teams play.

  • @andrewash9318
    @andrewash9318 13 дней назад

    You’d be a great tv weatherman.

  • @Muletom
    @Muletom 14 дней назад +15

    ND should be ready for another Alabama results. 42-10

    • @theronr7464
      @theronr7464 14 дней назад

      Bet the HOUSE on the Buckeyes!

    • @ThreadAndCircuses1
      @ThreadAndCircuses1 14 дней назад +1

      ND kind of plays similar to Michigan offensively in terms of ball control, gap schemes, etc. Defense is the opposite with ND playing so much man coverage.

    • @brucetucker4847
      @brucetucker4847 14 дней назад +1

      @@ThreadAndCircuses1 ND doesn't live in Ryan Day's head the way Michigan does. That's the most important difference.

    • @Chewy-qg3ir
      @Chewy-qg3ir 14 дней назад

      OSzU but close game

  • @Zanthorr
    @Zanthorr 14 дней назад

    Monday night natty? Why not have kickoff at 4am on a Tuesday?? Both those times make an equal amount of sense.

  • @beedevil11
    @beedevil11 14 дней назад +5

    SEC has had a variation of NIL for years. The rest of the country is just catching up. Depth is becoming a thing of the past. I'm not going to be a #2 at Georgia when I can get $1.5m to start at a lesser school. The times are a changing.

    • @blakeharrison3972
      @blakeharrison3972 14 дней назад

      I do not recall Jeremy Pruitt giving players McDonald’s bags full of cash

    • @flic5k
      @flic5k 14 дней назад +1

      so you dont think any other teams were paying players? lol. not the miami teams, not the texas teams, not the usc teams, not the ohio state teams, etc. like do you think before you speak?

    • @GoatedAtNFS
      @GoatedAtNFS 14 дней назад +1

      those kids won’t get recognized on the national level if they’re not a breakout star. that’s why you stay.

    • @user-tz2zz5ij1s
      @user-tz2zz5ij1s 14 дней назад

      1 of 3 things happened
      The SEC schools were just smarter than all the other schools and got away with it
      The NCAA willingly only let the SEC pay players
      Or most big programs were paying players one way or another. Off topic, did Reggie Bush ever get his heisman back ;)