I totally agree with Dr Camille Olsen's opening words. I have been able to understand and absolutely love studying the Old Testament this year because I listen to these podcasts each week. In fact Come Follow Me has been so much more engaging because of Follow Him. Better yet are the many wise and learned guests that come on each week. So excited to hear Dr Olsen again this week. Thank you so much🧡🥰
Yes we are learning and growing in understanding the OT as never before. I’m 70 and feel like I’m just now discovering the OT. I’m studying like I did on my mission. Thank you!
Camille is right about being able to 👂to your podcasts while I'm working at home. Canadians only dreamed of attending BYU but now we get to know professors who teach seminary there, so blessed from this opportunity, thank you so much for what many dreamed of affording to attend
I agree with her shout out... I'm studying the old testament more than I have before, it's definitely because of podcasts like you guys. I love hearing from PhD s, experts, and those that have spent a life time studying and teaching the scriptures. Keep going, we're loving it.
Thank you, Camille for saying that in the very beginning! I have struggled to study Come Follow Me in the past for a variety of reasons. Scripture is difficult to understand. I am a convert and haven't been able to determine how to effectively study scripture other than just read the words. THIS has helped me IMMENSELY! My thanks to you all for doing this. I had no idea there was so much to learn in the stories in the scripture. You have brought them to LIFE for me! Thank you!!!!
I have learned so much this year. I have read the OT before, but with so many options available now, I felt that I have missed out on so much, that I am playing catch up.
In listening to this episode, there is mention that we don’t know how the widow of Zarephath knew Elijah, or any of her back story, but there is very important information included in 1 Kings 17: 8-9: “8 And the word of the Lord came unto him, saying, 9 Arise, get thee to Zarephath, which belongeth to Zidon, and dwell there: behold, I have commanded a widow woman there to sustain thee.“ One can only assume that she had experienced some form of divine interaction with the Lord, or His messenger, which prepared her for Elijah’s coming. Just a thought.
Camille hit the nail on the head when she gives a shout out to you and your podcast. I have really dived into Come Follow me lessons and am enjoying it because your podcasts help me und and relate. Thank you for your dedication to helping us make sense of these ancient text.
SO grateful for your podcast! Thank you for being fun but all appropriate decorum is still kept. I feel like I can trust your information and sound scholarship of all your guests and yourselves. Feels like I have a home here. Please keep up the great work! God bless!
Thank you again. I am loving the Old Testament and the lessons I am learning that help me right now! The reminder that God is good - and as President Monson said "God's love is simply always there." Wonderful podcast this week.
Loved this podcast and Camille’s knowledge:) if she sees this, this is the former Terri Hatch from Alberta …now Terri Holman living on Vancouver island. So many fun memories with you!
This doesn’t really have to do with this episode, but I would so appreciate a Follow Him Favorites on how to be optimistic. I really struggle to not be depressed at the state of this world unless I bury my head in the sand, so to speak. And we’re supposed to be standing for right, posting on social media, not just keeping quiet, voting, etc. But when I do, I’m attacked and mocked, and it just depresses me.
Saw your comment and thought i might share some insight. Elder Anderson taught about speaking and posting of Christ. There definitely is not enough of that. I believe speaking of Christ is the quickest and easiest way to peoples hearts for understanding. And if we still have backlash then at least we know Christs promise.
Thank you for the work you put into making this podcast. The hyper-analytical part of my brain (which tends to take over everything else) loves the profound detail and insights we are able to get from you and your guests. That same part of my brain has also given me to question part of your discussion. When talking about Ahab and Jezebel's motivations for wanting to kill Elijah, you suggested that it might be because they saw killing Elijah as a way to end the famine. Although I concede that, if the king and queen had any measure of actual faith, it is possible that one or both of them may have believed that the power to end the famine was in Elijah's death. This, however, doesn't seem to me like the most probable scenario. Later in the discussion (part 2) you brought up that a great many prophets had to go into hiding, because Ahab wanted all of the prophets dead. We know that he was new king and had separated himself and his people from Jerusalem. He also formed and alliance with his wife's people through the adoption of their faith and its practices. Elijah and the other prophets were a threat to Ahab's government and his kingdom. Their testimonies/teachings were specific towards reminding the Israelites who they were, as a covenant people, and who their true king was. If the Israelites embraced the God of their fathers, then Ahab and his wife would lose a great measure of the power and control they had over the Northern Kingdom. I suppose you could say, the prophets were radicals who were engineering social unrest and the upheaval of the government. The worst among the radicals, was their leader Elijah, who continuously sought to turn the hearts of the people away from their king. Ahab likely saw killing the prophets as the best way to show his people that he was more powerful. This would crush the dissident voice and stabilize the Northern Kingdom more quickly. I guess you could say, in summary, that the efforts to kill the prophets was more politically based than faith based.
There's a great book by an LDS author that shows that there's perfect harmony between the prophetic statements concerning the garden of Eden being in Missouri and the Old Testament account concerning the garden of Eden. It's called Canaan, Babylon, and Egypt A Comparative Theological Analysis on Creation sold by Eborn Books.
Hank & John, you mentioned that Elijah came to the Kirkland Temple on April 3rd 1836 to restore his keys. April 3rd 1836 also was Passover for that year. Elijah did fulfill the prophecy!
Does anyone else think that it's just a little apropos to our culture that the The Widow of Zarephath saved her household by making a man a Sandwich (or at least the 5 years of drought and famine version of a sandwich)? lol
As you so well pointed out the capitalized word LORD means Jehovah. But i see that the quote on the screen it was written in small letters instead of being capitalized as it is in the scriptures.
I looking at 1kings 17:9 where it says for Elijah to get to Zarapeth and the Lord tells him he’s has commanded a widow woman there to sustain him (Elijah) could the women already have known that she was to feed Elijah? Did she know her sacrifice was to sustain a prophet of the Lord. I’m sure she must have been prepared by the spirit for this sacrifice she was asked to give
Just a thought I had as I was reading about the widow of Zaraphath (and I haven't finished listening to the whole podcast yet, so I don't know if this is mentioned or not): I wonder if the widow knew who Elijah was. Not only does he ask her to feed him first, but this is the guy that actually caused the famine and drought! My natural tendency would be to say, "You've got to be kidding me! You want me to feed you when you are the one who caused all this?!" But if she did know who he was, she showed extreme faith in following the call of the prophet, even when she didn't fully understand what the outcome of doing so would mean. In our limited view, do we always understand why our prophet asks us to do certain things? Hopefully, I will always be willing to follow him in faith, knowing that he is called of God.
My name is Asa. My whole life people have mispronounced my name. Now even a Bible scholar and educator doesn't get it right? SMH Love the podcast & channel nonetheless.
@16:30 I have 2 questions about "Ashera" and "Groves", I don't know if John, Hank, or Dr. Olson would be willing to answer, but here it goes. 1) In Genesis 21:33 Abraham plants a grove in Beer-sheba, but he doesn't worship it, but he worships the everlasting God. Is that evidence that he understood the doctrine of a heavenly mother, that she exists, or is it some other kind of harkening back to the concept of a divine feminine, or is it something else? 2) Is the word that is translated as grove in Genesis 21:33 the same as "Ashera" or is it different, and is that the same goddess as Ashteroth?
I totally agree with Dr Camille Olsen's opening words. I have been able to understand and absolutely love studying the Old Testament this year because I listen to these podcasts each week. In fact Come Follow Me has been so much more engaging because of Follow Him. Better yet are the many wise and learned guests that come on each week. So excited to hear Dr Olsen again this week. Thank you so much🧡🥰
Camille is right! I have learned to love the Old Testament because of your podcasts on RUclips. Thankyou so much!
Yes we are learning and growing in understanding the OT as never before. I’m 70 and feel like I’m just now discovering the OT. I’m studying like I did on my mission. Thank you!
Absolutely!! The Old Testament has become understandable because of you and your guests. Thank you so very much!!
Camille is right about being able to 👂to your podcasts while I'm working at home. Canadians only dreamed of attending BYU
but now we get to know professors who teach seminary there, so blessed from this opportunity, thank you so much for what many dreamed of affording to attend
Absolutely true. We're following you all the way from French polynesia (Tahiti).
How much we are grateful for all we received from all participants.
I agree with her shout out... I'm studying the old testament more than I have before, it's definitely because of podcasts like you guys. I love hearing from PhD s, experts, and those that have spent a life time studying and teaching the scriptures.
Keep going, we're loving it.
I thank you as dr. Olsen as I have learned to love the Old Testament very much through your program.
I find it hard to follow the Old Testament and Oh Wow have I learned so much more because of your broadcast.. Thank you so much!
Yes, thank you for your contributions 😍🙏
Best Elijah lesson I have Ever heard!! Amazing insights, comments & history
Thank you, Camille for saying that in the very beginning! I have struggled to study Come Follow Me in the past for a variety of reasons. Scripture is difficult to understand. I am a convert and haven't been able to determine how to effectively study scripture other than just read the words. THIS has helped me IMMENSELY! My thanks to you all for doing this. I had no idea there was so much to learn in the stories in the scripture. You have brought them to LIFE for me! Thank you!!!!
I have learned so much this year. I have read the OT before, but with so many options available now, I felt that I have missed out on so much, that I am playing catch up.
In listening to this episode, there is mention that we don’t know how the widow of Zarephath knew Elijah, or any of her back story, but there is very important information included in 1 Kings 17: 8-9:
“8 And the word of the Lord came unto him, saying,
9 Arise, get thee to Zarephath, which belongeth to Zidon, and dwell there: behold, I have commanded a widow woman there to sustain thee.“
One can only assume that she had experienced some form of divine interaction with the Lord, or His messenger, which prepared her for Elijah’s coming. Just a thought.
Camille hit the nail on the head when she gives a shout out to you and your podcast. I have really dived into Come Follow me lessons and am enjoying it because your podcasts help me und and relate. Thank you for your dedication to helping us make sense of these ancient text.
SO grateful for your podcast! Thank you for being fun but all appropriate decorum is still kept. I feel like I can trust your information and sound scholarship of all your guests and yourselves. Feels like I have a home here. Please keep up the great work! God bless!
I love Dr. Olsen.
Thank you again. I am loving the Old Testament and the lessons I am learning that help me right now! The reminder that God is good - and as President Monson said "God's love is simply always there." Wonderful podcast this week.
Amen to all positive comments about technology helping us love the Old Testament and connections to other scriptures!
Love so much. My daughter's and granddaughters and I just had pedicures and I loved your story about giving your friends pedicures.
Loved this podcast and Camille’s knowledge:) if she sees this, this is the former Terri Hatch from Alberta …now Terri Holman living on Vancouver island. So many fun memories with you!
love love love your podcasts, am learning sooooo much, any transcripts for this episode?
This doesn’t really have to do with this episode, but I would so appreciate a Follow Him Favorites on how to be optimistic. I really struggle to not be depressed at the state of this world unless I bury my head in the sand, so to speak. And we’re supposed to be standing for right, posting on social media, not just keeping quiet, voting, etc. But when I do, I’m attacked and mocked, and it just depresses me.
Elijah would relate well. After he dispatched the priests of Baal he told God he was ready to die. He probably struggled with the same feelings.
Saw your comment and thought i might share some insight. Elder Anderson taught about speaking and posting of Christ. There definitely is not enough of that. I believe speaking of Christ is the quickest and easiest way to peoples hearts for understanding. And if we still have backlash then at least we know Christs promise.
Thank you for the work you put into making this podcast. The hyper-analytical part of my brain (which tends to take over everything else) loves the profound detail and insights we are able to get from you and your guests.
That same part of my brain has also given me to question part of your discussion. When talking about Ahab and Jezebel's motivations for wanting to kill Elijah, you suggested that it might be because they saw killing Elijah as a way to end the famine.
Although I concede that, if the king and queen had any measure of actual faith, it is possible that one or both of them may have believed that the power to end the famine was in Elijah's death. This, however, doesn't seem to me like the most probable scenario.
Later in the discussion (part 2) you brought up that a great many prophets had to go into hiding, because Ahab wanted all of the prophets dead. We know that he was new king and had separated himself and his people from Jerusalem. He also formed and alliance with his wife's people through the adoption of their faith and its practices.
Elijah and the other prophets were a threat to Ahab's government and his kingdom. Their testimonies/teachings were specific towards reminding the Israelites who they were, as a covenant people, and who their true king was. If the Israelites embraced the God of their fathers, then Ahab and his wife would lose a great measure of the power and control they had over the Northern Kingdom.
I suppose you could say, the prophets were radicals who were engineering social unrest and the upheaval of the government. The worst among the radicals, was their leader Elijah, who continuously sought to turn the hearts of the people away from their king. Ahab likely saw killing the prophets as the best way to show his people that he was more powerful. This would crush the dissident voice and stabilize the Northern Kingdom more quickly.
I guess you could say, in summary, that the efforts to kill the prophets was more politically based than faith based.
There's a great book by an LDS author that shows that there's perfect harmony between the prophetic statements concerning the garden of Eden being in Missouri and the Old Testament account concerning the garden of Eden. It's called Canaan, Babylon, and Egypt A Comparative Theological Analysis on Creation sold by Eborn Books.
Hank & John, you mentioned that Elijah came to the Kirkland Temple on April 3rd 1836 to restore his keys. April 3rd 1836 also was Passover for that year. Elijah did fulfill the prophecy!
Does anyone else think that it's just a little apropos to our culture that the The Widow of Zarephath saved her household by making a man a Sandwich (or at least the 5 years of drought and famine version of a sandwich)? lol
I had a friend who went to Kearns High School about 50 years ago. His last name was Bytheway.
My husband served in the Toulouse mission.
As you so well pointed out the capitalized word LORD means Jehovah. But i see that the quote on the screen it was written in small letters instead of being capitalized as it is in the scriptures.
I looking at 1kings 17:9 where it says for Elijah to get to Zarapeth and the Lord tells him he’s has commanded a widow woman there to sustain him (Elijah) could the women already have known that she was to feed Elijah? Did she know her sacrifice was to sustain a prophet of the Lord. I’m sure she must have been prepared by the spirit for this sacrifice she was asked to give
Just a thought I had as I was reading about the widow of Zaraphath (and I haven't finished listening to the whole podcast yet, so I don't know if this is mentioned or not): I wonder if the widow knew who Elijah was. Not only does he ask her to feed him first, but this is the guy that actually caused the famine and drought! My natural tendency would be to say, "You've got to be kidding me! You want me to feed you when you are the one who caused all this?!" But if she did know who he was, she showed extreme faith in following the call of the prophet, even when she didn't fully understand what the outcome of doing so would mean.
In our limited view, do we always understand why our prophet asks us to do certain things? Hopefully, I will always be willing to follow him in faith, knowing that he is called of God.
Isn't it interesting how righteous women's names are often covered? We don't know the name of out Heavenly Mother either.
I wandered about the stretching too, The footnotes said ministering to the sick.
My name is Asa. My whole life people have mispronounced my name. Now even a Bible scholar and educator doesn't get it right? SMH
Love the podcast & channel nonetheless.
@16:30 I have 2 questions about "Ashera" and "Groves", I don't know if John, Hank, or Dr. Olson would be willing to answer, but here it goes. 1) In Genesis 21:33 Abraham plants a grove in Beer-sheba, but he doesn't worship it, but he worships the everlasting God. Is that evidence that he understood the doctrine of a heavenly mother, that she exists, or is it some other kind of harkening back to the concept of a divine feminine, or is it something else? 2) Is the word that is translated as grove in Genesis 21:33 the same as "Ashera" or is it different, and is that the same goddess as Ashteroth?
Awesome questions thank you
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