SHARPENING Our SCYTHE & Our SKILLS - Ep. 061
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Summer Rayne's dad scores a well made but well worn scythe at a local auction, so we travel to our neighbor, Andy's house, who takes us through some sharpening lessons and show us the ropes of using the scythe in the meadow.
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The snath was made by the Sta-Tite Snath Co. of Shelbyville, Indiana, and was made for the European style of blade that's mounted to it. The ring is currently upside down, and should have the set screw running in the cast iron groove on the top of the snath, and you want it as close to the end of the snath as possible for it to best resist the leverage forces occurring. The European style blade should be beveled by peening, while the American type ones shown toward the end should be beveled by proper grinding. Cutting late-season goldenrod can be challenging but mowing in general should be fairly easy work and breathing hard when mowing grasses is usually a sign that something is wrong. Both types should be able to mow with ease and feel like they're sweeping the vegetation from the earth like a broom.
When I saw the three blades side by side, I looked for you in the comments ;)
Andy, is such a great guy and excellent neighbor. Loving these episodes with him❤💛💚
Maybe talk to Jim Kovaleski, he's taught many people to use one. He mows several acres of hay with it. I'm pretty sure you need an expert with lots of experience to reference to get you started. I know Jim peens his edge and uses a stone in the field .
He is an interesting character that is full of knowledge for sure.
Jim has some great tutorials for scything on green dreams you tube
"if your not breathing hard your not doing it right" - not from my experience, I'm a novice at scything but it's not as aggressive as Andy is implying. It should be a gentle experience walking through the field while mowing. Stand up straight, shoulders back, and twist your torso allowing the tool to do its job. Check out Jim Kovaleski - he has some great videos on youtube or get in touch with him and he might be able to join you when he is summer farming in Main.
Yes, proper peening of your scythe blade will increase it's effectiveness and greatly increase your mowing experience. It requires special equipment and lots of practice. Venturing into scythe use is a journey. Try to keep the entire blade on the ground through the whole swath; all the way from right to left. Bend your knees and move your feet apart more to achieve this. Your snath length might be a bit short for your height. Keep trying!
Best if she, and her partner, look at doing a scything course wherever she is. I did years ago, but the instructor was using an English blade..and the grinding crap...so after learning the and scything technique, I heard about the European blades, and it was a blessing...so bought a shorter Falci blade for my backyard.
I did a quick Google on the scyth and the grim reaper:
Grim Reaper. In modern-day European-based folklore, Death is known as the Grim Reaper, depicted as wearing a dark hooded cloak and wielding a scythe. ... The scythe is an image that reminds us that Death reaps the souls of sinners like the peasant who harvests corn in his field.
If you let the blade rest on the ground, as you swing gently, it will cut easily. It's a slice not a chop.
i think the main problem was that it was not sharp enough (but im just guessing - dont know anything about scythe)
What a great find by your father. It looks old, even though still functional...after each use, display it on a wall. It's a cool piece. Great neighbors in your area...helping each other out. :)
It's nice to see you are covering a variety of topics on this channel 😍
The technique is supposed to be more of a rotation than a chop. The blade stays at ground level and parallel to the ground -- which I found fairly easy on grass but tougher on heavy weeds. Back in the day, the go-to resource on the tools, sharpening, care, technique, etc. was The Scythe Book: Mowing Hay, Cutting Weeds, and Harvesting Small Grains with Hand Tools by David Tresemer. I probably have a copy around somewhere that you can borrow if you'd like. I think I even have a Tresemer scythe buried in the shed somewhere.
I know he means well, but your neighbor is going to break either the tang of your blade or your snath with his rough technique.
+1 If so much force is required, it is definitely the proof that the blade is not sharp as it is suposed to be.
The tip of the blade being lifted up should not be considered a flaw, it will help prevent it from digging into the ground (which would quickly make the scythe dull).
You should contact Jim Kovaleski from Maine about scythes. He is someone who use them on daily basis and probably the most acurately I have seen from people in States.
Common / Tradition is to use Linseed (aka flax seed) oil for tool handles. "Boiled" linseed oil these days is prepared by adding heavy metal hardeners, so you may want to avoid those. If you don't want to hunt down the one or two brands that are actually boiled, you can uses raw oil. It takes slightly longer to polymerize ("dry") but results in a finish that's a joy to handle. Every time I get a tool that's finished in plastic like Polyurethane, I scrape that off and replace it with linseed oil.
Most boiled linseed oil these days doesn't use heavy metal drying agents.
Scything can be so relaxing. I have not done it in decades, but I had a good time at it. Do not try to cut with the full blade length. You almost want to fees as though you are cutting from back to front may be 1/4 - 1/3 the length of the blade. Others will know better than my memory.
Andy's a delight! I hope we see more of them!
Proper care of your tools will pay off in spades! I think linseed oil is used on the handle at least once a year depending on how much it is used. Once you get the hang of using the scythe you will find the "zone" and the work will be done forthwith.
The blade probably needs peened and you should keep blade on ground whole time through swing.. The sharpening and arc swing are all an art. It took me 2 years to get it. Your blade is an Austrian style for grass. way better than the other 2 on bench that are american style. There are also plenty of canoe stones on internet to sharpen with.
Look up Jim Kovaleski on you tube. He's very experienced with scythes.
I need to try this next spring! Will be my first lawn mowing in NY! ❤️❤️❤️
Justin Rhodes highlighted him on great American farm tour.
A good tool is a work of art.
Great info. Glad I bought a scythe this season now!
Yours is a european scythe, Andy’s is american style with the bend in it. You should look at the video of mr. chickadee where he explains and shows in detail all about scythes!
Very entertaining to watch everyone give it a go 😂
Is he wearing two different cowboy boots?! One looks brown and the other is black. Love this man, he wastes nothing. 🤣❤
I use a European scythe to cut my backyard lawn with and it's really fast and a good workout. A lot of people make the mistake of really swinging that thing around (like you guys did), where all you really need to do is keep the blade on the ground the entire time and rotate with your hips. There's really not a lot of force used at all. Even grass blades should cut those weeds in the video like butter when properly shaped with peening, sharpened and used correctly. Once you get the hang of it, it's really easy and you can tell when you have to sharpen it with the stone in the field because it starts cutting less precisely. I definitely wouldn't use a file. A whetting stone is easy to use and won't damage the blade like a file would.
As for peening, all scythe blades need peening, regardless of thickness, since you really want that tapering effect at the sharp edge to cut properly. It's easier with a peening jig instead of an anvil. You also take the blade off the snath when peening, you don't have to rest it on the wall like that lol.
Enjoyed watching this video. Lots of love from Sri Lanka!
That is so dangerous 🤤. Just saying Andy is a great neighbor and a hottie 😎💪.
This was fun, I love old tools and thinking about who had them before! But I’m not young anymore, I’d use a tractor cutter instead of my back!! 🌿🌱🧙🏻♀️
Check out "Nomadic Farmer, Jim Kovaleski!"
@16:15 if you learn to “peen” the blade you can hammer out a thin edge to hone with a stone
Stones also come in coarse to extra fine grit
Cold peening check out scythe supply instructional info.
It IS like martial ARTS you will be “ dancing with the scythe” Should be almost effortless
Think of using a scythe not as a swinging action, but a rotating action. You cut across your forward path, rotating your hips and shoulders, keeping the heel of the blade on the ground through the entire pass, both forward and back. The grass will be sliced as it passes along the length of the edge. You aren't chopping with a grass scythe, it's a slicing cut. It's an easy, gentle motion with the power coming from your legs and torso rotation, your arms are just to hold the tool in position, not to drive it. FortyTwoblades is an expert on American scythes in particular and a terrific resource. I have an American pattern bush blade that I got from him and it's a terrific tool for our brushy, wooded homestead.
Shouldn’t you rest the file on the back ridge of the scythe so you remove less metal and get the best edge?
I lost the momory of this place. Always linked to that kind of tools.
A bit painful to watch. Cleaning the blade with the file is ok, but that has to be followed by PEENING, then sharpening WITH A WHETTING STONE. If you fail to do that, you are mistreating your scythe, and it will never be cutting the way it should. Also: both Summer and Andy used the wrong grip with their left hand - the palm of the left hand should be FACING UP.
It was painful to watch. I wanted to jump thru the screen.
Nice tool, you’ll get a good workout!!
I bet his workshop is a treasure trove
You are not supposed to raise it from the grown. It has to always touch the ground and do not use the arms to make movement, just the body. 😀
yay Andy!
Yoir scythe is.not dancing and thus you are doing something wrong.
The angle of the cutting edge is to steep. You have to follow the spine. Also the shape is wrong. It needs a concave edge and is indeed best peened. Peening both shapes stretches and hardens the verry edge of the blade. Taking the rust of will also help the glide through the grass.
Soft swings and keeping the blade on the gounds works better. Hope it helps.
Edit to add. You seem to use a realy old dutch or belgium snath. A long Thande angeld towards the bladel is ussualy attached to the top of the snath and held close to horizontal with the snaths top almost resting on the iside of your elbow.
Doesn’t it work the body too asymmetrically, though?I have a broken scythe that I tried to fix and miserably failed…so I’m in the market for excuses….
No, if you use proper technique it uses both sides of the body in roughly equal degrees, despite the tool being asymmetric.
When using it correctly, you're only really engaging your core muscles a lot, so it shouldn't be asymmetrical to your body at all.
Watch Pete canaris recent video with Jim kovaleski.
Mag ingat Ka po nakakasugat Yan..malaking gunting na Lang po.
So cool I used one when I was 6
Nice like always! When you’re geting interns let me be the first to know! And yes I can handle a scythe. Wearing gloves though…..Think about how strong peoples back had to be.
Cool!.
Dime piece
Maybe should have paid a bit attention to the grand father. The sythe is supposed to be peened indstead of grinding it sharp. That way the edge will hold a whole lot longer. once peened, it will have to be honde it with a stone once you feel it gets a bit dull. After a while another peening will be necessary. The scythe is to be held at ground level - watch a few youtube videos and train using it - once you have it going its fairly easy, and best of all - its quiet 🙂
you have to keep the scythe closer to the ground. watch the youtube video below.
As I watched, I wondered could a Scythe be a topical collection in Philately? Sure enough globally. However, U.S. Scott 1323 National Grange represents. Cool.
Slide it on the ground,don't swing it like a hockey stick. Sharpen it more,and keep it Sharp. Remember slide it on the ground both ways, also twist your hips,not your arms.
Wao!! Once I turn my cell on one of your videos, for me, is like opening a page of " A Book of knowledges". Not many fields being mowed with scynthes in my Country. The only one I knew was the one carried by...you know who...The Reaper💀☠
140723 💚💙💜 Thank You Cheers from Australia
Very nice cuter
A file really is not the right tool for this job.
11:01 🤣🤣 That's an Austrian Scythe. You have to hold that Scythe in a different way.
Eastern Europeans hold it that way, as such this is not wrong. Main issue here is that the blade is not sharp enough, it needs peening.
Hope know one has back problems. Although you may end up with some. 🌺💚🙃
*paused to order manga where a fallen priest kills zombies with scythe 🙃
I enjoy you content, but please let people finish a sentence and quit interrupt the person you are talking to. Also hearing you say ya or oh is so distracting. I want to watch your channel but your interview style needs to slow down
Give up control and let it flow more naturally.
This! I couldn’t put into words what it is that sometimes rubs me the wrong way in these videos. I love them and at the same time, something feels very off. This is a big part of it, I guess.
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juicy.
All that knife sharpening makes me a little edgy (pun!).