Why Indonesia is building a whole new capital
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- Indonesia is constructing an entire new capital city in Borneo called Nusantara - from scratch. What's at stake?
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Reporter: Beina Xu
Camera: Taris Hizi Iman & Georg Matthes
Translation: Taris Hizi Iman
Supervising editors: Joanna Gottschalk, Kiyo Dörrer & Malte Rohwer-Kahlmann
Special thanks to Georg Matthes and Taris Hizi Iman of DW's Asia Pacific Bureau in Jakarta for their fantastic research and filming on the ground.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction
00:57 What's happening in Jakarta?
04:05 Nusantara
05:45 Environmental and social costs
07:41 Energy concerns
08:45 Wait, what about Jakarta?
10:27 The future
11:20 Conclusion
How green is your country's capital?
Puerto Princesa city on philippine is a green capital. dont know if is city or capital i dont live there
My green capital in Malaysia is Putrajaya for now on and we'll move to Bandar Malaysia in future. In Putrajaya, all buildings build on planned for realizing "city in the garden". It is beautiful and lots of green area too. Government buildings and private office building also build with green standard for energy efficiency. I'm proud of what have been achieved by my country in recent years. MALAYSIA 🇲🇾🇲🇾
Montevideo isn't really green but quite good compared to the region.
We have tunnels under the capital in madison WI. We are a v bike heavy city, but depending on the election is going to make a big difference going forward.
India :- most polluted
I’m originally from Brasília, and despite some minor issues, moving the Brazilian capital from Rio de Janeiro to Brasília helped to develop the rest of the country. I’m glad we have done that. Good luck Indonesian
This is a comment I’ve been looking for. Love from Indonesia!
Hope ours can also be beneficials
Thank you. We're the ones who really care for our countries, not the foreign observers.
Good to know this fact
how did building a poorly designed city help the rest of the country develop? because your capital was only built by an authoritarian government and your country hasn't gotten better since then
As a foreigner who has lived in Indonesia for the last 20 years, no mention was made of a key political aspect as to why to move the capital. That is, to move the capital out of Java, which is believed by many non Javanese Indonesians to dominate them and the country, whether it be politically, economically or culturally. The new location is further east and more central of the country as a whole and it is hoped will send a signal to the whole country that the government serves all and not dominated by one particular ethnic group.
that's one of primary objectives, but you can't spell it out explicitly. jokowi has at least hinted at it several times. not only he wants distribution of socioeconomical wealth but also equal ethno representation in public service, and to see perhaps one day, a non-Javanese president.
the pull factor (equality, justice) is bigger than the push factor (jakarta's issues), it's sad that journalists always see the push factor alone.
@@yucode7356 maybe lazy journalism, sad DW did this move
If you want equal socioeconomic distribution.. build new industrial zones, not an extravagant new capital. Batam is advanced than the majority of Indonesia provinces because it serves as *industrial and economic* hub, not because "it is our capital city". If you want equal distribution then build industrial zones in every *PROVINCES* .. building new capital city is actually again a very centralistic mindset. I bet the situation in Sulawesi Tengah, Nusa Tenggara Timur, Maluku, and Papua Barat provinces would still be the same even after this costly new capital city has been finished. Because these provinces have no industrial zone for job creation and local economic acceleration.
Hopefully, yeah. Borneo isn't as densely-populated as java, considering its size. Also, there are multiple ethnicity groups, which partially consist of transmigrants from all over the place, who now live in Borneo, so... yeah, hopefully everything will get better
@@Etendard1708 New industrial zones are part of the plan for Nusantara project with some already underway/finished on other areas too
As indonesian Indonesian who's not living in the jakarta nor kalimantan (Borneo) I like the idea moving the capital becouse java is over crowded, very likely to be affected by earthquake/tsunami/volcano eruption while kalimantan located far from major tectonic plate and have a good big river for future development. But yeah the problem is wether the process will be fair without favoring some specific group
The economic and population concentration will likely stay in java but at least it will give stimulation to move out of java
Java will still be crowded. Doesn't solve anything.
@@coweatsman it will still, but when the administrative capital moving it sure will bring something out of java in the future
Intinya sih ya nanti bakal ada pemerataan pembangunan, saat ini indo terlalu jawa sentris, kesenjangannya jauh
We Want to be freed out of Indonesia. Free Java. Free Sumatra. Free Kalimantan. Free Sulawesi. Free West Papua.
@@ringo.maxxx123 Why?
Just look at 'The Ring of Fire' lines on the map. Indonesia has hundred of active volcanoes in that line and few of tectonic plates. Kalimantan island is the only big island in Indonesia's territory with the minimum of tsunami and earthquake. So, moving the capital to Kalimantan island already planned since the beginning of Soekarno era (1940's).
I think Java island still the centre of economy and business (like New York city thing), but politic centre will move to the new capital (like Washington). That's also would affect Indonesia's geopolitic policy. Kalimantan island basically in the centre of South East Asia on the map, and the fact that 'Nusantara' is one of suggestion name of the new capital also could tell a lot. Nusantara is the old name for South East Asia when ASEAN nation back then basically unite in the era of Sriwijaya kingdom and Majapahit empire, before European colonization and imperialism came. Golden time.
Interesting observation
the new location is also near a megatrust that cause tsunami and liquefaction in Palu...
THe safest place from earthquakes and volcano in Indonesia is at Southern of Central Kalimantan
I think its a good idea somehow, some people must have to think further to avoid the mass destructive disaster in the future, and the big risk causes comes when stay on the ring of fire, including java island that have plenty of active volcano, and in the mean time disaster often occur in java island like flood, earthquake or volcano eruptions. so it is has a possibility that the disaster on the ring of fire will be massive in the future.
@@johnylubis3913 lol its like 358 km away.
What people seems to not know as well is nusantara as a word also have local kalimantan origin. Its not just old javanese.
Geopolitically it sits in the Makassar strait in Balikpapan Bay. In indonesian geopolitical policy it is called ALKI II. A designated sea lane for shippings and foreign ships through to lombok strait. It is geopolitically important as alternative to ALKI 1 = sunda strait and Malacca strait.
Not all planned capitals are bad though, Washington DC was a planned city. I have hope for Indonesia!
Thank you for the optimism
Washington DC is a crime-ridden disaster...
Putrajaya in Malaysia too
@@kimimpown which one is your capital? Kuala Lumpur right? Is it true your government is in Putra Jaya and not in the capital?
@@haharinaze Kuala Lumpur still capital of Malaysia. Putrajaya purpose is to be administrative capital and home of goverment office and parliment
a lot of nations are skeptical about the new Indonesia HQ. It's normal and acceptable since Indonesia is still a developing country with a lousy corruption reputation. No matter what, the project has begun and I hope all the best for Indonesia. Learn from other nations who have executed the same action too. Proof them!!
What to proof when building it already borderline mortgaging "the country"? through Ms Sri funding packets, and Mr President pitch.
While the idea of need are well presented in the news, its urgency is a whole different dimension.
Indonesia is not known for its corruption.
Fak other nations!!
Overproud and hype as usual. Typical of Indonesian
@@arifyesehehehehhewahahahah3445 but one of indonesia’s main problem is corruption 🤷🏻♀️
Everyone thinks Indonesia will fail but every time it does well. It's the only major economy with little debt. It'll be fine.
I don't think the people think this project will fail because of money and corruption. I see it more in the social situation in Indonesia. There is a huge development gap during the areas. So people will always be pulled to "developed" areas in hope for a better live, even they won't have it. So this new City will also be overcrowded in a few decades (and Indonesia im generell is complete overpopulated)
Also there are some "cultural" problems, you can't solve that fast. Indonesians don't like to walk or take public transportation. People want their privat transport with their Moped or car. Especially car because until today it Shows a good income. Just in Jakarta there are over 4 Million cars and 13 Million motorbicycles.
In Nusantara there would be the same traffic and are polution problems like in Jakarta...
And if they don't build a good water supply this city will sink like Jakarta and many other big cities...
@@FairyGirlMagic still better than risk it all on 1 place which is jakarta. This time we have 2 basket instead of 1
@@FairyGirlMagicI agree with you and the reason why we don’t like to walk is how hot and humid just standing on the road, and the options available to walk. Based on the car centric infrastructure it’s hard to go from here to there just by walking.
Im from Malaysia... When they build putrajaya we thought OK myb good myb not but now we look back its a good idea n our pm look into the future... Trust the process n think positive n stay positive n lot of good excitement thing coming your way... New capital is what you need as the country grow n more people get educated to fill or work in the new capital... Wish you all the best n we live happily among our Asian neighbours..
While there will be major problem to the environment, it is progress.. other country want Indonesia to preserve the environment, while they are not doing the same..
Indonesia is a developing country thus the step needed to be a developed country, is mostly similar of the past.. of a developed country..
There are also countries that pledge that they will not tap into their oil reserve and coal, but they need massive economic help.. and sorry to say... guess what the other countries do ?
Germany is a hypocrite.
@@Kanal7Indonesia Talking about other countries use of coal while they're the largest producer and consumer of lignite coal (the dirtiest of coal) in EU lol, so sad they're not welcoming Nuclear energy like the French did
The hipocricy, right?
They have to pay us hundreds billions of dollars.if they want us to preserve it. If not then they can mind their own busines. Its not like we re doing it in another country land.
What Developed Country do :
1. Destroying many countries by WAR
2. Taking Natural or Mineral Resources from Developing and Underdeveloping Countries by MASSIVE INVESTMENT in Oil and Gas Company, Minerals etc
3. LACK of COMMITMENT for Emission Reduction --> look at Uncle SAM (US)
at least they are building a new city where public transportation and pedestrian friendliness is important alongwith green energy goals.. Just look at cities egypt and saudis are building which are absolutely an urban planning nightmare and will end up as soulless places. Of course indigenous people of nusantara must become equal beneficiaries of new capital and govt must ensure they are not ignored.
Pedestrian friendly, sadly, Jakarta is not. I hope by the time this things gets built motorbikes will be electric only, and that they will have segregated lanes for autos, motorbikes & scooters, and pedestrians. Walking along the MRT near Blok M on Jalan Fatimawati at 7pm last night the air index was 201! The only positive change I have noticed after having returned to Jakarta after having been gone 9 years (I lived here between 2011-2013) is that the orange bajaj (tuk-tuk) and Metro-mini public buses have disappeared and the TransJakarta has a few electric buses. Meanwhile, all around Jakarta Selatan houses have been growing higher with more population density with the same poor infrastructure. No wonder this is the fastest sinking city on earth. It would take a fortune to remedy the infrastructure + a CCP-style dictatorship, neither of which Indonesia has. *IF* the governor and local authorities were to enact AND enforce strict zoning and building codes, over time things potentially could get better, but those two things are, IMO, impossibilities. Ahok was the closest they got to having someone who worked to clean up Jakarta, and we all know what happened to him.
@@TheGrandDurian he's talking about the new capital
@@TheGrandDurian lol
@@faiq026 You are right, and I knew he was talking about the new capital. I went off on a tangent in complaining about the mess that Jakarta is. 🤷♂️
@@TheGrandDurian that’s why Indonesia is building their new capital because of those complex problems Jakarta have. You got no point.
I kinda agree with this move, from what I've seen Jakarta is almost beyond saving. Might as well build a new capital than fixing what can't be fixed
That's like a parent saying my kid is beyond help, let's have another one. It doesn't really fix anything and will probably make things worse
As Malaysian I would wish Indonesian greatest success in building of the new capital. Malaysia has build new government city Putrajaya and IT city Cyberjaya in the past, so scale wise I'm sure Indonesia can make this bigger project successful.
Why called Putrajaya, Cyberjaya ? Putrajaya is hindu indian word
@@hesh2892 if its a Hindu word..so?..concern about ur toilet first u indian
@@babitonggek148 you in toilet 5 times daily eating arab kaka
Yeah I hope so
Agree! went to cyberaya and putraaya. It's sooo much cleaner and futuristic than KL. Though the population seems very little, almost like ghost town. I guess it's still new so it should take some time
There's also the political reason, Indonesians learned from the New Order period that having the capital inside Java, where the Javanese is the major ethnicity, caused the government to concentrate development only to Java for the most part. Widodo is a visionary, he knows that to push development to Indonesia as a whole, the capital must be moved. Politically, Kalimantan is the most ideal place, it's right at the heart of Indonesia, it'll make it easier for our national armed forces to mobilize the troops too, so our soldiers can respond to China in the north, Australia in the south and the OPM separatist group in the east more efficiently
hmm never thought about the political and military part, that could be possible too
I don't think that's the case, in political.
It could be just as simple as 'a capital reflects nation'. It's not unusual with more development in the capital itself. As for other cities development in Java, anything can support the capital to be better city. If the capital can't offer some facilities but other cities have them, it should be easier to provide transport to access. If the capital can't offer some facilities but no one have them, they would make one nearest accessible. It's nothing about ethnic, so if the capital were in Nusantara, then major development must be in Kalimantan, even there were indiginous or Javanese imigrants. Remember, every province or city can develop theirself without the capital influence.
As for military, it could be a good one in Kalimantan but it's not that bad in Jakarta. I see Jakarta as better place for south aggression than Kalimantan. Troops mobilize can use the whole Java island, easiest to approach south and west side of Indonesia. This one is an example why concentrate development to the whole island. Nusantara could also use larger portion of Kalimantan, not right after but eventually if whole province developed. If you said Australia is a potential threat, then we might also have Malaysia as a part of the Commonwealth, 'threat among us'. Nusantara would do the job there. To counter China in Kep. Riau (as the most exposed border of Indonesia to China), Jakarta is also not a bad option if troops mobilize through the whole Kalimantan still a problem.
02:35 The idea of moving the capital has been around since Dutch colonial era, not during Suharto presidency. In fact, no serious effort was done by him.
The Dutch planned to relocate the capital city to Bandung, and turned it from a small village into a major city in less than a decade. But it failed because of 1930s economic crisis.
he (suharto) only cared about making profit for his family lol
@@KF-zb6gi he did. And if anyone attempted to make inquiry about his wealth, they would be assassinated
@@BagusWidyanto1978HappyIn1997 yeah I still remember the story of prosecutor being shot in front of court building by his son, still haven't got his justice till this day
Soekarno...
This sounds like a cool idea I wish Indonesia the best of luck!
Jakarta is already overpopulated with too many issues. As a person born and raised in Jakarta, I think a city so dense and populated would be so hard and even more expensive to fix. The development in Indonesia is also already very Java centric. Other islands and cities need to be developed more too. By moving the capital city, at least Indonesia is trying to make the development more even to other areas outside of Java. It can also open more work fields for the people. Of course there will still be issues but something needs to be done. Many countries have moved their capital cities and it worked for them. Indonesia needs to work hard, but it can work for us too
Building is easier than fixing an already complex problem. 🏢 🏢
True
It is that's why people/country do that becouse it's likely to eat less resources
that's just run away the responsibility
@@selaluoposisisiapapunpresi7982 that's called sunk cost fallacy.
You actually need to know when to throw the towel. Unless you becomes like China now with their 0 COVID policy. Their economy is literally on death bed with their antics, and now they can't pull out, because someone made it extremely political
But how do you fix a city that is already overpopulated with too many issues? And not just that, Indonesia is very Java centric. Other islands and cities need to be built too. By moving the capital city, at least Indonesia is trying to make the development more even to other areas outside of Java. Also, it can open more work fields for the people. Of course there will still be issues but something needs to be done. Many countries have moved their capital cities and it worked for them, Indonesia needs to work hard, but it can work for the country too
As a neighbour country, i hope this project goes well. Good luck Indonesia. Can't wait to visit the new capital in future. ❤️
this is not about sinking but about the economy, population and infrastructure and Indonesia has a vision of 2045 the golden era, as living in Jakarta i'm support this Mega projects (Smart City) 🔥🔥🔥
in 2045 your country will still be poor and authoritarian, these so called "vision initiatives" for the future are just vanity projects created by the authoritarian state to propagandize itself and to continue to validate it's rule. This is no "Smart city" it's another Br*silia. and you continue to drink the kool aid
This project is definitely a necessary move, for better infrastructure to all part of Indonesia and will losening the burden that java island is carrying rn
We're not a country, but my state of Louisiana set out to build a new capital in 1845. They chose a small existing town and build a new capital around it. The small town was called Baton Rouge and it was chose because it was more centrally located to existing populated centers and an economy already existed in Baton Rouge. In 1847 the Louisiana capital was Baton Rouge.
How's it doin for the economy spread?
Less expensive and far easier to build
actually nusantara is not going really from scratch either. it is placed between two smaller cities, kutai kertanegara and panajem paser utara
@@fakhrizzaarrifi9375 it is from the scratch.. by definition. You build a city from nothingness, and the infrastructure to those neighboring cities are still in progress at the moment.
This is my exact question, why dont we choose existing cities, and upgrade it into an administrative capital city w green concept. We need administrative capital city, not some dystopian futuristic city like one in Hunger Games the series, the capitol.
Whatever a developing country like Indonesia does, it will always be criticized, it is very natural. but at least we are trying to make the green and modern cities.
Who?
@@Amentiople people/group that hate jokowi
@anti menyembah patung manusia konteks?
@anti menyembah patung manusia mending dia sekolah, daripada lu kayanya ngga. maaf ya, bahasanya ga kaya orang berpendidikan soalnya hahaha
@anti menyembah patung manusia anjirrr ngga ngaca malu bro malu...
Hi, Assalamualaikum. As Malaysian Malay, I'm strongly support the Indonesian economic move as well this new Indonesia Capital City NUSANTARA because it will surely benefited all Indonesian as the whole structure. I don't see any similarity with other country so called Ghost City because Indonesian People is totally different. They are not a LAZY people. They are currently working almost every where in the world & the government surely has it own STRONG plan to develop a vast new job opportunity for the people & I'm very optimistic that this new Capital will Excel & succeeded like a Putrajaya in Malaysia.
For an example as an analogy, Kuala Lumpur a capital of Malaysia once upon a time was also packed with people & its rapid development. When the city almost loaded with people and all of its development as well its rapid growth of achievement, then our ex Prime Minister Tun Mahathir Mohammed decided to move our Government Capital to PUTRAJYA in a land of no where which is full of Palm Trees & forest in Sepang area which no one believed it will succeeded.
However our Ex Prime Minister has its own dream & always look into a new Malaysia future great living place as well its new economic center in Malaysia. PREVIOUSLY, Malaysia Government office & its administration were scattered all over Kuala Lumpur & Selangor state in several kilometer radius every each department building and it has created a difficulties to Malaysian people managing their activities with the government sector as well within its government administrator activities.
HOWEVER NOW... all its Government office & all its administration office BUILDING currently located at ONLY ONE CENTER AREA side by side in Putrajaya. THIS IS THE MALAYSIAN MASSIVE ACHIEVEMENT. All the Government servant houses, thousand of them are also located just nearby to their office building which is surrounding the Administration building. This is Brilliant...! By then, the new economic opportunity & its demand as well the new job opportunities were also developed within Putrajaya or its nearby. So Putrajaya is ALIVE successfully UNTIL TODAY & InsyaAllah its will grow bigger in due time. I'm saying this because I also currently living in Putrajaya. The point is I can get almost everything in this world just only in Putrajaya it self.
THEREFORE, that is the reason why I BELIEVED THE NEW PLACEMENT OF CAPITAL OF INDONESIA WILL SUCCEEDED by the brilliant planned of Mr President Jokowi. I'm very optimistic it will succeeded.
BY THE WAY, no doubt the challenge as well the objection will always be there. So face the challenge accordingly. Move forward & do not step back. Dengan penuh tekad, yakin & percaya bahawa kalian juga akan berjaya. Tiada kejayaan tanpa halangan. Matlamat kalian ini cukup besar begitu juga dengan rintangannya. NAMUN terus yakin, jujur & terus maju InsyaAllah pasti berjaya. Salam dari kami, jiran & saudara sebangsa, sedarah & seagama kalian, Malaysia.
Terimakasih untuk dukungan optimismenya :)
Indon no 3 the laziest people inthe world ..iya pak. Putrajaya are the best city
I’m originally from Indonesia, and despite some minor issues, moving the Brazilian capital from Rio de Janeiro to Brasília helped to develop the rest of the country. I’m glad we have done that. Good luck Indonesian
I really appreciate what Indonesia is doing. Some people will be jealous of this!
Only time will tell whether it’d be successful or not. As Indonesian I can only wish the best for my country. We need all of the supports and solutions, not undermining pesimistic behaviours from so called scientists or experts
lol, your comment is more of a political rather than a rational ones
with this type of thinking, no wonder your country never thrives even though you got rich resources
@@Lucas-hh4oh at least now we are as the presidency of G20 and next year of ASEAN. It shows that we are thriving
thats the problem we indonesians have. we call experts opinions "undermining" or "pessimistic" just because it differs from what we are doing, when most of the time these opinions have stronger base supporting it than the optimism some of us have based only on national exceptionalism
@@lankyalpaca are those scientists and experts involved in the planning processes or they just view the idea from afar? Do they have information of the action plans that have been done for their basis to give a surface apple-to-apple experience with other new capital cities? The assumption is that if the other didn’t work out/failed then Indonesia’s plan also won’t work
@@yypij6475 @hafiz mds as much as I would like to agree, we should also keep in mind that some reality checks from time to time would do no harm to us. i believe, both of your arguments are valid and have a point, but seeing a problem from one or two perspectives only won't give the best result that we all hope for. hope you guys get a new insight and understanding it better. it's our problem after all. have a great day/night!
I'm from Islamabad, it is most organized city in whole Pakistan and definitely an upgrade from Karachi(our previous capital) which is still in its difficulties. I think building a capital from scratch will give you a city with calculated risks of natural disaster and overall best sites with well planned city and good infrastructure. Good luck Indonesia.
if we are too afraid to make changes,
or fear of something that has not been fully accomplished,
or get scared before trying,
Then when did we become a developed country?
It's true that building a new capital city has its own challenges, but it's worth it in order to move forward
as indonesian, i agree with this project. places other than jakarta and java are falling behind in terms of development and infrastructure. moving the capital to borneo wil hopely help develope other places and improve indonesia's relationship with neighboring SEA countries since its closer to them :)
as indonesian, as indonesian, as indonesian, overprott
@@radistyaarbein4359 Try learning to distinguish between regular opinion and over proud statement. The way you called out an opinion from a citizen of the country mentioned in the video as over proud showed nothing but cringe. He just expressed his agreement on this plan as a citizen of Indonesia, which is the main focus topic of this video, not patriotic statement.
Agree, there needs to be incentive for private companies to move to kalimantan, they wouldn't go if it's not the capital.
I agree. I support the idea and so far it's convincing. We knew there are so many political interests araoun this decision. But as citizen we can guard this idea and make sure it'll be implemented well as it planned
@@radistyaarbein4359 they can't talking abaot their own country in video that are talking abaot their own country to?
Very cool future city of indonesia hi by your friends in the Philippines
Thanks
thanks, salamat mga ate
mirip abang2 indo
Again with carbon capture area discussion 😅
The carbon capture area is the protected forest which is the area with heterogeneous plant not the homogeneous like the area of nusantara
For mangroves area & coal power plant, just guide the government to keep the plan for nusantara & net zero emissions
The Nusantara plan include :
No plan to build a port
Plan to Building a national park & orang utan conservation
The gateway to nusantara are Penajam airports (inside nusantara area) and the city of Samarinda & Balikpapan
For net zero emissions :
There is already plan to use new energy such as geothermal, nuclear, hydro, solar etc also not to use only one source of new energy
The problem is geothermal / hydro sometimes located in indigenous area or even protected area,
for nuclear, our common people lack knowledge of nuclear energy so they become anti nuclear energy
For this new capital there is also a hope for Indonesia centric development and leave Java centric development
The biggest dream that still not achieved from the first government until now
This is the most sensible comment on this video.
Also, a survey found around 70% of Indonesians are in favor of Nuclear. Meanwhile the country in which this channel is based in is burning more coal because they decided to shut down their nuclear power plants.
Am i missing something ? Where is the source of geothermal energy in Nusantara (Kalimantan Island)?
@@koermana some of its sources that close to new capital are in batubini (south Kalimantan), sebakis (north Kalimantan), dontang & batuq (east Kalimantan) , that area is local tourists spot 😅
True... and new magroves forrest are kept being plant with no sign of stopping
@@mapk1516Indonesia is developing nuclear energy, and wants to enter phase 2
I born and live on south borneo. I'm both hopeful and skeptical about the new capital. At one side i love that we borneo people finally going to receive high infrastructure project, usually only java receive such treatment. But on the other side, i'm bit skeptical about how they handle the project, we borneo already suffer deforestation. The local people who got affected by the project also need best solutions. All in all i still support the project.
Muha nyawa ganal
Deforestasinya sdh terjadi dari dulu. Lagipula ibukota di pesisir daerah selat makassar jadi yang dapat dampak ekonominya bukan cuma kalimantan aja tapi sulawesi ikut dapat jua. Kalau ikam cari ada berita 6 provinsi di kalimantan dan sulawesi (kaltara, kaltim, kalsel, sulteng, sulbar, dan sulsel) yang berhadapan selat makassar saling bekerja sama supaya efek ibu kota bisa dirasakan maksimal (juga efek kerusakan alam bisa dibagi merata jua). Aku yakin jika dalam jangka panjang ibu kota dapat memberi dampak positif bagi Indonesia Timur. Btw, aku sama ai di kalsel jua, di kabupaten yang persis menghadap selat makassar.
So, as Indonesian, let me add some reasons why Indonesia eventually need to move its capital from Jakarta to Borneo / Kalimantan (this, of course, taken from my PoV). First of all, Indonesia probably has one of the biggest development gap between its capital (Jakarta) and other cities. Let's not mention city outside Java (like those in Sumatra, Kalimantan, Sulawesi, or Papua for example), even within Java island itself the gap between Jakarta and other cities are quite huge, which I think is product of years long of misplanned development and various political agendas of previous governments (which focused more on the capital city to prove their works and tend to neglect other area, which rarely visited by media compared to Jakarta). At such, rapid mass urbanization happened over time where people from all across Indonesia moved to Jakarta in order to make more money (in 2014 census, 11% of overall Indonesia population are inhabited this city, which probably only less than 1% of total Indonesian land mass). Second, I think because Kalimantan is rather "safe" geologically compared to other regions in Indonesia (Remember that Indonesia is often reeived natural disaster such as tsunami, earthquake, volcano, etc). As Jakarta is the center of almost every aspect in Indonesia (government, business, education, entertainment, trade, etc). If something happened to Jakarta, then it'll be total mess of the country situation. The last, by strategically chose the new capital in Kalimantan, which located in the "center" of the archipellago (Indonesia is the largest archipelagic state in the world), may influence next government to develop more fairly. Of course it'll take years (maybe not in our lifetime) before we see the expected result, but I think it's a really good innitiative that Indonesia should take since long time ago.
verry good 🇮🇩
buzzer
Yep agree eventually the capital needs to move away from jakarta
yup, and jokowi be like "enough with all this plan, now execution time".
@@reznom888 kadrun 🤣
Don’t let some people thousands of miles away distract us. Have trust in our government, there will be atrade offs obviously . But decision has been made, and as indonesian we should support our country advancement. LFG!
Envy people every where LOL. They put Jakarta area near rivers during flooding to represent Jakarta as sinking city LOL. They repeated the same slump are that is only 0.1 % of Jakarta, that is only people with Jelousy can do that over and over again, the same like Singaporean media as well
Exactly! We support Indonesia... We hate war mongering americans -❤️ from Philippines
@@muhammadsecret8783 its sinking, i live in jakarta and see with my own eyes, neighbour drilling new water source everywhere. last time my grandparent drill in 1998 they still find clear water. now., its full of dirt water everywhere mean the water below are already polluted and the water not as much as before. kapuk muara is literally flooded with sea water and the only thing seperated this area from the open sea is a concrete slab . i know jaksel, jaktim and other seems not to be effected by this sea water but the jakbar and jakut is getting more and more sea water breach to the land. the solution of giant sea wall is great. but sadly people seems reject it for political reasons. but hey if you guys want to still drilling the aquaduc water from below , giant sea wall is the only solution. but if the govt decide to ban all the drilling and provide rest of citizen with water pipe, the giant sea wall would be redundant option.
"Have trust in our government", ahh i wish i had that kind of optimism
Yeah about that buddy, i don't which part of Indonesia do you live in but with a huge mega project like this and the corruption tradition among Indonesia politicians is never been a good result
Canberra, Australia. Well laid out. Functional. Desirable. Not controversial.
They intentionally left the good apple out for a more compelling story
Because Australia are "white nation".
The White doesn't bite other white.
nah mate ppl just forget, whats been build to the land down under lmao..
Canberra is desirable I guess, but always gets dissed locally. Boring with not much so goes the stereotype (and cold)
Why is it always about jakarta problem? The new capital is not about Jakarta. Jakarta is the most affluent and privileged city in the world. Sucking resources, attention, talents from most of Indonesia and the world. The new capital is about spreading the resources across other regions of Indonesia which are neglected. Jakarta with DECADES of sooo unfair advantages (with respect to the other regions), chances, privileged and its inherited head start should responsible to solve its own problem without taking hostage the rest of the country from their development opportunities.
Why every westerner report always start about jakarta city? Indonesia is more vast than Europe! Jakarta is a capitalist megapolitan, it has nothing to do that is has to be a definite capital of the country at the expenses of other regions.
The idea of new capital is not since soeharto but since the beginning of Indonesia independence by the first president Soekarno (not Soeharto), please do more research.
"Im from Indonesia, Im from bla bla bla " you dont need to declare it like a beauty peagent🤣
Don't you think they are buzzer? :"v
As a Malaysian, i hope there are trains n flights that go directly to the new capital. Pretty sure the country's best are contributing to the construction of this anyways.
Trains that cut through the tropical forest? What a terrible idea.
What happens to the local, indigenous people in the region?
@@paulheydarian1281 Better than the alternative, which are toll roads. At least with rail it encourages more usage of trains instead of buying private automobiles, which requires more infrastructure than rail and thus leads to more deforestation.
@@mapk1516
Deveopment is highly overrated. Large parts of the Indonesian Tropical Forest have already been cut down for monoculture.
It needs to STOP.
Traditional societies and wild animals must have places of their own. No roads, no rail roads, no infrastructure, nothing.
Just leave it alone. This is all being done to feed the Nickle industry so that China can build more EVs.
Don't you see the irony in that?
Humans aren't very smart, are they?
@@paulheydarian1281 They... pass through the rails ? I don't even understand the problem, build a tunnel or a bridge. Rails are way less problematic than roads (which will also exist anyway), compromises are inevitable, or you don't make anything.
I do think there will be but will cost alot, the new capital will become the center of government but economy and business still in java
I grew up in Canberra ,a perfect example of a planned city.Fortunately it worked but only because Australia has a very small population compared to other countries.
It also helped that the climate on Canberra saved cost on the construction process as well
Decentralised capitals in other countries have often become a costly drain upon the nation’s taxpayers.
It makes good economic sense to keep the capital as either the largest city or a nearby satellite city.(eg the new Egyptian capital).
Canberra was done properly, helped having our low population but it has been designed to seriously scale. There's a reason there are so many greenbelt areas in-between major suburban hubs all connected via highways.
Canberra from what i experienced is a pretty car centric city, probably because that was the vogue back then similarly brazilia. The designer actually studied in Monash, said it should be 15-minutes walkable cities, hopefully they stick to the design.
Nusantara itself is designed close to already two big city in Kalimantan, Balikpapan and Samarinda. These two cities are even larger than some cities in Java but relatively unknown outside of Indonesia.
@@johngeier8692 the new capital is supposed to be a satellite city of two already large cities in Indonesia of Balikpapan and Samarinda.
I hope they can pull it off without destroying the nature on Borneo. The beautiful jungles there are worth protecting. Danum valley and Maliau basin are unique and magical places that I wish everyone could have the opportunity to fall in love with❤
This is why it seems dw need to find better source. For one thing they are not building it in the middle of jungle like all the headlines mentioned but on a eucalyptus plantation and former mining concession. There is plenty of video recorded in the place it self that showed eucalyptus trees in neat rows. How can that place be a jungle.
One of the source mentioned they will destroy balikpapan bay. Well she is wrong, they will build underwater roads with methods similar like the oresund (submerged tunnel). Thereby preserving the bay. The roads before then would rely on the already finished Pulau Balang bridge.
This is pretty lazy journalism. It seems dw need to find better journalist who actually know the topic. If a normal person can even find this information.
Very nice name Nusantara.
It is coming from Sanskrit word.
Jakarta and Nusantara very nicely described by DW. Good.
Glad this was become a topic from foreign journalist, this move make me as an Indonesian had a complex feelings.
I'm from Astana, the capital of Kazakhstan. This new city has become increasingly polluted and cramped despite being in steppe, vast open space.
=УГГу,ППМММНЮ ВАРЛАМОВА
=ЗА ТО ТАМА ХОРАШО ЕЛЕКТРСАМОКаТЕ ЕЗДИТ
NUSANTARA is not Kazakhtan man. Presiden Jokowi is great President. not only Indonesia. Buy also leaders for G 20.
@@stevenandrean2661 you're missing his point. He's trying to tell that the new capital of kazakhstan has become less than what ideally planned before.. now it's a really hard lesson for Indonesia to move its capital city where the government has to be extra careful in seeing whether the benefits outweigh the disadvantages and whether the gov will be able to face the long-term risks this plan brings...
@@whadaaappeeeps2401 are you his official spokesperson? Or just another haters ? 😀😀😀
@@stevenandrean2661 i'm in neutral position trying to see what's good and bad from this new plan :) call me a hater or whatever you like.. cause you can't argue with simply saying "jokowi is great president"... he might be great in some other aspects, but this one? Still a question mark
With the increasingly complex problems that exist in Jakarta, building a new capital city is one solution to help reduce problems, and make Indonesia's development more equitable. We should hope that this can make Indonesia a better country in the future.
This is Indonesia time to become big country and big economic. Love you my country
Electric cars were a mistake. If you really want to help, use your car less. Also stop glamorizing Elon Musk.
Agreed!
Jakarta already have widely used good public transportation, from MRT (light trains) to TransJakarta (buses) :)
Of course, it's not perfect yet atm
@@alanhat5252 create more walkable city/area, or convert current into one, there some places in europe that have succeded. more bike friendly area and lane, more public transportation, both need to be comfortable and safe.
about elon musk, yeah stop glamorizing him. he is not a messiah, yet he has lots of cult-like people following him and will defend him at all cost. he's just like other bussinesman. electric car is not the solution.
agreed. Thats why I like the focus on public transportation in nusantara. Good, safe, affordable and efficient public transportation will on its own replace a majority of cars on the streets. Also narrower streets are better than wider stroads ( streets+roads)
Majority of the fuel is consumed by logistic companies. If we follow your advice the economy would collapse. Glad we don't have some one like you in charge
My country is Malaysia and we also have new city of Putrajaya. Even though Putrajaya is not consider as the new capitals (Since it was there 20 plus years ago) but we managed to move all government institutions there, as a way to relief congestion. But in reality the congestion has gone worse though lol.
Well, it's mostly due to the confusing public transportation, it's deficiency and subsequent lack of trust.
I have no problem going to putrajaya from my home thru lekas highway, only 45 mins.
Previously during soeharto era, the plan is simply to move the capital city to Jonggol, a hop away from Jakarta. But its completely scrapped once Indonesian govt saw that Putrajaya deemed too close with KL, making many officials that working in Putrajaya unwilling to move out from KL. For Indonesian govt that's a big no since their goal is to make the development spread evenly and to force the govt officials move out from Jakarta.
Not away to relief congestion but a way to avoid any disruption to government business.
@@ignatiusryd2031 cost of money to be paid by gov workers in department and ministrial.
semoga indonesia maju.
We've got a cute little example in Belgium too %-) Louvain la neuve , which was built to house the french speaking university of Louvain, because they were in a quarrel with the flemish speaking university in Louvain.
It's a very small city and isn't at all comparable with the big scale projects in big countries... (but it has been succesful in what it aimed to do. build a new place for their university and a small town with typical facilities around it)
I hope the Dutch government will help realizing the plan. As a Dutch i feel we should somehow support Indonesia develop more.
Nope, dutch just stolen resource, and dutch long time ago just colony in jakarta and java not in kalimantan
@@f4u21ramon8 I know that's why i feel we should somehow support Indonesia. (also do not forget the Malacas or Maluku).
Colonial governments only see money or financial opportunity, never people.
@@DanteVelasquez we just changed colonial Governments for Rich multi-national companies. The poor are struggling everywhere, east, west, north and south.
@@Tripserpentine INDEED!
The best thing that could happen is that around this area of the world they traditionally can grow bamboo, which if grown in the amounts needed it can float solar panels rather than plastic and make traditional buildings the material can grow in place and make use of land and water. Bamboo is incredibly strong and for the nation to remain strong sticking with the roots keeping and expanding on mangroves which will help stem the water rise we must as developed nations help develop with the county’s citizens to keep it traditional and develop clean energy yes but energy all over the world needs making a given to all to allow economy to grow but let the biosphere recover at the same time.
Yup, traditionally bamboo has been used in construction in indonesia. Many still use it because it's cheap and reliable
Best of luck Indonesia❤from Philippines
I think for southeast asia , Singapore and Putrajaya are the good example for planned city
yes true, our goverment also want inspiration putrajaya
I am a native of East Kalimantan. I am very happy to support the Indonesian government to move the capital city of the country. I hope Indonesia will be a great country.
You are correct about Abuja, Nigeria’s new capital from 1991. The slums are fast growing around the city.
hope indonesia government strict laws to avoid slums
saya yakin akan keberhasilan ibu kota baru kami, saya yakin akan masa depan negara kami.. Indonesia jaya Nusantara jaya ..👍👍👍
Remember! The capital is built on an industrial forest plot and every five years it's harvested. And later the production forests will be transformed into tropical rain forests by the planting of some local trees and plants. Nurseries have been built very wide. Pedestrians and bicycles would come first....Butterflies and birds will dance happily in the future... IKN (IBU KOTA NUSANTARA)
As an Indonesian that lives outside of Java, moving the capital to Borneo is quite a good thing because of the development, however to me it's not needed. Imagine using that 35 billion to upgrade the city of Jakarta into a better one. The new capital will have less characteristics and it is just gonna look like "gated developed community built by developers". Jakarta is a capital because of so many reasons including the history that has made Jakarta a capital city today
As kntl, kmn² aja bngstt, gk perlu pke as²an, atw am²an
Or upgrade other big cities in java, where most of the population live
Unfortunately the term "Jas Merah" are taken as its literal meaning instead of its message for us and future Indonesian from one of Indonesia founder
Or... just choose upgrade a city that already has infrastructure for the new capital. Think: Makassar, Samarinda. And if the consideration were natural disaster, just move the "new city" a bit further inland instead of building it in the middle of nowhere. There has to be a cheaper and less destructive way to build the new capital
@@cel2460 they are always there. But it wont give reputation impact that is wanted by them. Since I cannot think of any other logical reason on why they choose this option as the chosen politician
i'm indonesian, actually worrying about any possible side-effect that still cannot be detected or predicted. the government is liable for the post-project planning, it cost a lot from time, people, to budgeting. but I believe by the hand of a great government this project will meet the sustainability goal in and out the area.
Semua ada resikonya masing-masing. Mari membangun bersama dengan baik
as a dutch guy part of me is a shamed in how we handled Indonesia and wonder if it wouldn't it been better if at the time of independence we looked at the populations of the islands and made them separately independent and if some form of common wealth not been better than a war we couldn't win.
all over the world the dutcvh help with land reclamation we are the kings of water building on top of the channels instead of making the flow better would probably fix the stagnet water at least. its good to look at how green the new capital will be i hope that it will be as green as the promise and i hope that the native people and animals are getting an actual place in it.
Welp, at that time your Queen has repeteadly ask the Parlement to acknowledge Indonesia's independence and start to approach Soekarno diplomatically to make a peaceful settlements with the newborn country. But your MP's were ignoring her request and kept went on with that useless war hoping for an easy win.
@@ignatiusryd2031 not a single war has a easy win. I was born after the Berlin Wall fell and am now political activist trying to remove the current asshat calling himself MP and replacing him with our Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
@@joeribaars5481 At that time your govt expecting for an easy win. They expect Indonesians would lay down their arms and welcomes back the Dutch with tons of flowers like a somekind of decorated war heroes. But unfortunately what they got is massive humiliation, Vietnam style, but at bigger size.
From neighboring Malaysia, Our government move administrative capital from Kuala Lumpur to Putrajaya in early 2000s, the new city is beautiful in many ways, more development is being builds all around, new housing, new public transport, KL remain the economic center. not a bad idea if it is a well planned city.
Great Presentation . Thank you
I like the positivity in the comment section. I'd rather to being optimistic about our new capital. So i believe our current government must be learn from other countries history. I support Mr. Joko widodo. And we'll see about what the female correspondent says.. Indonesia Maju🇮🇩🇮🇩
As Indonesians, we respect all opinions regarding the relocation of our nation's capital, whether it's a good or a bad thing. What we have to do is to support from all society elements and do not be influenced by the incitement of other countries which are basically not directly involved in the development of our country. The process is running and we hope everything goes according to the plan, what is it? increasing equity in the government sector for all fields.
Man this really feels like a lose-lose situation 😔
The main thing that worries me is how we notice that issues are bad enough to cause us to move…but then we create plans which will destroy even more land (like the peat lands and mangroves that you mentioned) as part of that move. Kind of feels like we’re not learning our lesson.
I’m hesitant to say much more though because I’m very aware that my country has done way more to make climate change worse than Indonesia could ever hope to do…
The government already said(not openly to the people and just in written form, idk why they didn't announce it clear to the people) that the land used to build the new capital itself is mostly already barred with only some trees. It's not included in the forest preservation zone, therefore it's actually okay to use. Though I can't guarantee for the details though.
Indonesia already contributing most of world o2 with our biggest rainforest in the world. Don't worry. Our climate will stay temperate. Other country's climate will be hellish first before us
Well soon or later kalimantan will be industrialized and there are already lots of mining companies there and forrest openings and land clearings already happening since many years. At least with the new capital there, there is a more thorough planning and more strict regulations about the use of lands not only growing without regulation and lack of controls..
Who are we?
@@spy_balloon just the general human race
Please make videos on all the new cities being built!
Very informative. Thanks for sharing to the people of Aotearoa, New Zealand.
Great work by speakers, bold positioning and much needed insights on what will happen to Borneo
Europe was once covered by forest, the original forest covered probably 80-90% of the continent. So?
🤷♂️ titip bang aku mau dengar argumen mereka
@@muhamadmiftahurrizqi5909 gak akan ada argumennya, eropa kan muna, seolah2 paling suci dan paling care sama bumi. pdhl bnyak hutan dan binatang asli eropa yg udah punah krn ketamakan mereka dan pembangunan eropa. Kemajuan peradaban itu ada efek negatif terhadap alam. Intinya mereka boleh maju kita gak boleh.
Bukan hutannya. Kami lebih concern pada anggarannya dikemanakan. Saya sih tidak mau dibodohi politisi oleh embel-embel "national exceptionalism" padahal mereka sedang memperkaya diri dan disuruh untuk tidak kritis/realistis
You are naive too if you think this utopist project is corruption-free.
Australia liberated Borneo from the Japanese during WW2. Australian people are proud of the connection to Indonesia's new capital 🤠
Don't ever compare the move to the capital city of Indonesia with other countries, also don't ever underestimate what Indonesia will do to look ahead, we all have different ways as well as Indonesia will make it. good luck!
Comparisons are good for learning though. We learn from other’s success and failures. It's normal to be skeptical with such a big project that would impact literally the whole country.
@@luthfi7725 Well, it depends on how they use their point of view, whether they are worried or otherwise, like when Indonesia succeeds in everything that is expected to fail or stall, they only see what happens after that, if they look at it from their point of view based on the failures of other countries, it's the same. It's just degrading our capabilities, we already have sources of information from several countries that have failed, and of course, with their failure, they must be assured that this will not happen to Indonesia, that's the work of the media, they are more aggressive in reporting interesting things to get money because reporting bad news will be profitable them rather than good news for a country, optimism is important about success or failure is a lesson but that's the reality all attention is now on this country as if they doubt the ability of this country, so we'll see how it's work instead.
@@nightcorecrows6252 santuy, bro
well, dont be over pride and over optimist brother.. its huge amount of money we are talking here, with the education and health in Indonesia still in the lower grade
@@pratamapratana6943 No it is not over-pride, or over-optimistic it is a challenge for all of you actually, IKN itself is a place where the education and health system will be innovated in the new capital, why don't you study the IKN planning literature until you fully understand the mega project for the future of your own country.
If you think Indonesia should keep the rain forest because you depend on it, then pay them for that. People don't live with thank you.
Agree!!
Ouch. You just spit a fact.
This has been said or many times. Moving Capital will not solve Jakarta's problems. it decreases the city burden elsewhere. as the central government said the sinking problem will be solved by the province gomernment. IKN is suppose to be the new central hub for all Indonesia, not for only Javanese. regardless the move or not, every province has development plan anyway. These narrative depicts that they will leave Jakarta as It is.
You want Solve Jakarta's problem? Choose the competent mayor and Governour.
Thank you. The political system here is such that reformers can't get the authority (power) and money necessary to get meaningful reforms done. Many of those reforms will be painful to both the rich and poor, and in my observations, the political machines block the long term processes needed to fix ongoing problems.
It not only one person job to solve Jakarta problem, Jakarta problems is our problem as Indonesian, perhaps moving capital is just first step.
@@TheGrandDurian by that in mind, do you think we should elect the same party so the current programs may continue or we elect the opposition that will change the plan to fit their agenda?
On my opinion, either way has the cons on itself
Competent Governor? Last time we had one for Jakarta, people are rioting because he have different religion.
@@chawza8402 I am afraid that is a conversation not really suited to a comments section on RUclips. I pay taxes to the Indonesian government, but as a foreigner, I can't vote. The political system as I understand it, and I may be very misinformed, is one based on patronage, and thus very resistant to reform. Inchallah, we will meet some day and you can better educate on your country's system of legislating. I would like to know what you think, and why.
thank you for making a video that discusses about Kalimantan, especially the capital of the archipelago in Sepaku I am a person who lives in the city of Samarinda which will later become a neighbor to the nation's capital Nusantara Proud because my area will be built better than before so that other parts of Indonesia are also developed evenly and with justice 👍🇮🇩
amazing reporting
Terimakasih telah menyajikan bahan diskusi yang menarik. sebagai orang indonesia, saya merasa pembangunan ibukota baru merupakan tantang yang sulit. Namun jika ini berhasil, maka akan memberikan dampak positif pada bangsa kami, terutama pada pola pikir dan semangat juang. Sehingga kami dapat menggapai kemajuan yang kami impikan. Insyallah
pake bahasa inggris bang
@@topz8196 terserah dia lah
Narasumbernya tak berkompeten, kira2 dw bisa apa?tidak tahu seluk beluk Indo dw cuma bisa bikin narasi tanpa solusi, sama saja omdo
Love how she reads the narrative, absolutely brilliant piece of journalism!
Just be realistic. You can't get something big without losing something. Moving the capital is a huge movement, and there must be so many things to sacrifice, such as losing the forest and all the animals there, and many more. So yeah, we just hope the government have the best planning and not being greedy.
I'm more concerning the amount of national budget siphoned for this questionable project. It could be used to fund and improve education. It could be used for building vital infrastructure such as network of roads & railroads plus industrial zones in each provinces to promote equality of development. But nope, they build this grand, extravagant new capital instead..
Woh ada Indonesia! Indonesia!
Let us Hope for the best for Indonesia........
Delhi faces worst air pollution not because how city is planned (infact it is not planned) but because of stubble burning in state of Punjab and Haryana while state governments of both the states are not doing anything about it.
The stubble burning creates as much pollution as all of Delhi's cars would make after running for a year.
You could make a video about that aswell.
5:48 All Indonesian is indigenous people
Once again great job DW! This is really good journalism.
Great video!
The lady doing the VO nailed it. The guy who edited and mixed her voice did an awesome job!
Tetap optimis, wilayah yang digunakan adalah hutan produksi. Jadi, tidak perlu mendengarkan kritikan yang selalu menyerang soal isu lingkungan dan habitat hewan.
Lanjutkan, masyarakat Indonesia mendukung pembangunan Ibukota Nusantara ini. Semoga berjalan lancar.
Betul, ini media barat emg benci kemajuan Indonesia, mereka aja kagak peduli lingkungan di negaranya, hutan di negaranya kagak seberapa dengan hutan yg terjaga di Indonesia. Jdi persetan dengan media barat.
Thanks.. any update with this project in yearly basis would be great.. lesson learned for all countries ;)
My comment will be in Bahasa. Menurut saya pribadi, sebenarnya pemindahan ibukota itu "sedikit" perlu, dikarenakan untuk masalah administrasi Indonesia, orang dari Papua harus ke Jakarta dengan biaya yang mahal (apalagi sekarang Papua sudah ada 5 provinsi), terutama seperti Merauke yang bahkan harus transit terlebih dahulu di Jayapura dan/atau Makassar sebelum ke Jakarta. Tetapi secara ekonomi, memang Jakarta sudah sulit untuk "dipindah" kemanapun (Kecuali kalau pemerintah memang "gila" untuk "mengembalikan" ke Surabaya seperti era kolonial). Dan secara lingkungan, Indonesia itu sudah sangat rusak, apalagi sejak pembukaan hutan di akhir 1990 hingga sekarang yang semakin masif, dan tidak ada niatan penuh pemerintah untuk menjaga (karena ini juga membawa keuntungan ekonomi jadi cukup membuat dilema), jadi pemindahan ibukota dengan membawa embel-embel hijau tidak akan berdampak besar jika tidak dibarengi dasar yang kuat dan komitmen penuh pada lingkungan. Das ist alles.
Pendapat anda masih mengambang dan terlihat pesimis.
@@gangbelakang49 memang pesimis, karena sudah tinggal 2 tahun lagi, apakah akan bisa lebih dari 2024? Walaupun ada UU, terkadang UU itu hanya sebagai pajangan saja. Dan kenapa mengambang? Soalnya memang bahkan rencana bangunnya saja masih kurang jelas (hanya kantor presiden saja yang jelas), ya jadinya mengambang juga. Dan saya juga hanya mengutarakan pendapat pribadi saya
@@gangbelakang49 No he is being analytical, using God's-given brain to think.. not just being sheeple. Beside, we can't trust the corrupt government.
I know we're going for a "Colonialism bad, so the countries that did it in the past are bad" but the reason Indonesia brought the Dutch into this is because they're already very experienced in the matters of flood protection. I mean 1/3rd of their COUNTRY is underwater already, and they have achieved the lofty goals of building a barrier to stop seawater from flooding. However, the Garuda-shaped barrier screams of useless pride by the Indonesian government. No doubt that this project will be riddled with corruption by the Indonesian govt, developers, and dutch companies.
Jangan menuduh persiden Indonesia korupsi.. apakah kamu punya bukti?.. jangan seenaknya komen.. urus di rimu sendiri.. dasar gila.. Astagfirullah..
The Ministry in charge to distributing the workload to state owned contractor, and the contractors themselves increasing the work price for some personal/team benefits. The corruption is the core culture of the Indonesia feudalism itself.
@@antoverstappenburik3711 Siapa yang bilang presiden korupsi, itu tertulis "pemerintahan Indonesia".
"Urus dirimu sendiri". Ini udah urus diri sendiri, apa yang pemerintah lakukan itu berdampak secara langsung maupun tidak langsung ke saya. Baca dulu komennya baik-baik baru komen, atau ga ngerti bahasa inggris kah?
I don't get it, what the dutch has anything to do with the new capital? Indonesia is a free country lol
@@savemoney5111 I'm talking about the Garuda flood barrier, not the capital. Dutch companies will be the ones who build that thing.
It's some sort of a way to redo all the city planning which happened in the past. There are pros and cons but what Indonesia doing so not only socially and economically but they try to manipulate time and distance as their resources is mostly on their Eastern Territory.
DW does a great job presenting these circumstances and issues. Thank you!
Kalimantan/borneo itu sangat aman karena diluar zona cincin api sehingga sangat cocok untuk pusat ibukota, dan yg terpenting adalah letaknya ditengah indonesia (tidak terlalu ke barat/timur) yg melambangkan keadilan bagi seluruh rakyat indonesia
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Indonesia semakin di depan 👍
Anything we did in life, simple or complex thing, there are always consequences. Whatever the impact might come, emerging new capital to Nusantara (or wherever) is right decision because having options is better than not. Jakarta is in strain, the new capital would ease it slightly at least.
Jakarta will be the lost sinked city atlantic of ASEAN
Its for the best, so have to do it no matter what. Love Indonesia.
Nobody mentions the military strategic reasons why they move there. Its no coincidence that it is near "strategic sea lane 2"= makassar strait and lombok strait. This is alternative to Malacca strait and Sunda strait which is near Jakarta.
So it's basically a new capital in Indonesia🔥👑🔥
Yes it is. Called it Nusantara
Obviously
The video only highlight the downs of relocating the capital. If u want to make an objective, u should highlight the ups as well
Egypt is also relocating its capital from Cairo..... Bangladesh is also relocating its capital from Dhaka to Purbachal....for similar reason... Excessive pressure of mass people.... Pollution..... So no other way than creating a new capital...