singing in the rain
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- A somewhat contrived scene follows after Lena finds out about yet another deception (Don and Kathy’s hidden romance) and blackmails the studio to have Kathy be her voice or else she will sue. Nowhere in the film has the audience been made aware of Lena’s power within the studio and it’s quite a weak plot point in an otherwise engaging story. A hint of Deus ex machina : (a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly resolved by the contrived and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability or object.)
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She's still a shimmering glowing star in the cinema firmament even after all those years. LOVE HER
Jean Hagen was amazing. She actually had a wonderful voice, and could sing in real life.
Lisa Strong she was literally dubbing herself
She ain't people, She really was a glittering star in the cinema firmament!
@@anya7282 More on that: when Debbie Reynolds appears to be singing Jean's songs, that was actually Jean singing for Debbie singing for Jean.
@@henrywillis5857 Not entirely true. A singer named Betty Noyes dubbed Debbie Reynold's singing in the movie. We really hear Jean Hagen's real voice in the scene where Kathy is dubbing Lina's spoken lines, "Nothing can keep us apart. Our love will last until the stars turn cold." THAT was Jean Hagen's real voice, not the singing.
She was the best thing about the whole film. A brilliantly portrayed 'baddie'...
Agree. For me, the film would have been greatly diminished without Jean's wonderful screwball comedy. "They can't make a fool out of Lina Lamont. What do they think I am? Dumb or something.
Aww she's evil in such an adorable way!
LOL well said
One of nicest villani in movies
To be fair we did get some idea of her power when we find out that she arranged for Kathy to be fired from her gig as a chorus girl after the cake incident....
Good point!
We did indeed.
And the two script writers, Betty Comden and Adolf Green, who, when given the previously used song, "Singing in the Rain' to write an entire script around, went to many "old hands " who worked within the studio system during the transition from silents to talkies to get story ideas for the film.... to see the kinds of things that happened during that transition....
It's perfectly possible that a big name on the screen with a really good agent, as Lina Lamont did, would have the power to call the shots at this time. This was another big learning experience for the studios and they wouldn't make that mistake again!!
The history of the film industry is very interesting. I studied it for part of my degree, many years ago. (When degrees still had value!!!)
"PEOPLE? I ain't PEOPLE!" I use that line all the time, in just her voice!! Just last weekend at the comic shop I pulled it out, and the guys looked at me in confusion. To be fair, they were my kids' ages, and probably didn't get the reference. But the shop owner laughed. *grin*
Lina Lamont's entrance to this scene might just be one of the best villain entrances ever.
Exactly!!!!
Yesss exactly
So so funny, the voice, the accent, the script, they way she pronounces certain words and the acting. Wonderful actress! One of the funniest characters of all time. Wish she had her own spin off movie.
Jean Hagen will always be remembered for this role.
Jane hagen ..
What a shame she died so young....she was full of talent
Jean Hagen won an Oscar as supporting actress in this movie 😘❤️❤️🌷
nope. only nomination.
She would had deserved an academy award
I love her.
the actor or the character?? The actor's brilliant!! but the character! I wouldn't last a day with her voice! lol
I have to play Lina Lamont at school and I'm watching all of the clips of her I can to get the voice, and the character!
What a great part to have!!! best of luck!!
Taline Banks me too
How did it go?
Taline Banks Same at the moment! Wow how did it go??
She must not have notifications on
She’s wonderful and so funny
Her performance was flawless. She must have gotten on her knees in thanks when she was offered that role.
"I ain't peeople"
The producers had originally wanted to cast Judy Holliday as Lina, but she turned them down. She suggested Jean Hagen for the role.
When Judy was playing Born Yesterday on Broadway, Jean was her understudy. The reason they wanted Judy in the first place is because Lina was a lot like Billie Dawn, her character from Born Yesterday.
she is actually so cute here
Or I’ll sue you 😂😂🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂her voice
She's brilliant
If Betty boop was a feminist blonde this was her
It's so funny, though. She is amazing in this scene, and I'm glad it's in the film. I laugh every time.
She's absolutely superb in this role.
Love, love, love the outfit
They really knew how to put on a show with outfits back then!
She reminds me of a cross between Sharpay Evans, Carlotta Giudicelli and Lily St Regis.
Jean Hagen in this role was just one of the perfect things about this film. She is WONDERFUL!
Jean was so awesome in this film,.
"The party of the first part". All that was missing was "shall be referred to in this contract as the party of the first part". Lol.
I do have to wonder how true it is to 1927 Hollywood for a star to have this kind of power over the studio -- and especially for the exploitation of one performer to be driven by the star's whims over the protests of the studio, rather than the studio's own bean-counters figuring the exploitation would be more profitable than properly supporting and funding the younger talent's career.
And I *definitely* think it's a little silly that the conflict at the climax is resolved by a massive own-goal that anyone can tell runs completely against the villain's objective. (True, they did set up Lina wanting to speak and be heard by the public early on... but invoking that right after she shows her intention to HIDE her voice behind Kathy's for years to come?)
Haha yes good point, from what we know of the studio system back then, it's not realistic at all. Only later, after a lot of hard work, did actors get those kind of rights,
IZEASGT not very realistic at all as at this time in history studios practically owned their stars
She sounded dumb, but she wasn't dumb and she clearly knew how to get herself a shark of a lawyer once she made herself invaluable to the studio and renegotiate her contract.
"If I don't like it, I can SUE!" Jean Hagen was so so talented! Lina Lamont was the original Karen of old hollywood.
Indeed. SHE WILL SUE! It says so right here. Jean Hagen nailed it. "What's the big idea?!"
‘I Kant stand I’m”
Detrimental and deleterious...um, damaging was enough!
She was reading from a contract... Contracts are that crazed lol
Now i want a pink fur shawl
1:28 People, I ain't people
Well in fairness, she was clearly already a star before Don and was part of the studio's star duo...and other than Don..everyone kisses her ass. Even the director no matter how frustrated he gets still tries to speak to her gently...while screams at everyone else.
They pretty much spent the entire movie hiding Cathy from her as well and the entire studio seems to be in on it. That's fear and power. That being said given how quickly and easily it gets resolved, i see your point.
I always thought that they were keeping the Don and Lena myth alive. To be fair as someone said earlier, "she arranged for Kathy to be fired from her gig as a chorus girl after the cake incident," A sure sign of power. Don't get me wrong I love this film but like the vast majority of films they have a structure fault. That doesn't make them any less entertaining. 'The Broadway melody" scene has nothing to do with the story really but its great entertainment! When that scene ends the studio exec goes. "I can't quite see it!' loll great stuff! @@TheFashionAssasin
My favourite scene in the film.
Brilliant!
Who else uses “people I ain’t people” in their day to day life? 😂
Jean Hagen lost the Oscar for this role.
Everyone remember to turn your volume back down before going to another video.
Right?
Man she's such a nuisance.
Is that right? Could she actually sue them? Could she still sue them after the end?
apparently - that contract isn't foreshadowed and to quote --- A hint of Deus ex machina : (a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly resolved by the contrived and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability or object.)
She could still sue after the end. It may make her even more hated by the public perhaps, but she could sue and get herself a nice little nest egg for her to retire. They did after all ruin her career.
@@KimmyQueen Then again I suppose she might think 'what's the point if those dimwits out there don't love me'.
Well in any case, it'd all be a good publicity stunt for the whole studio. I guess she could get a role in comedy films, there's always fans and money in that.
I liked Lena Lamont a lot more than the Debbie Reynolds character in "Singing In The Rain." In fact, I found the whole romance between Don Lockwood and Kathy Selden
rather gross. He looked more like her father than her lover.
Perfect comedy
"it’s quite a weak plot point" What a load of rubbish! The whole film is contrived - it's a comedy!
No excuse for a poor story structure!
@@lpkvideodesigns4998 What's poor about it?
in the cinema furmuh mint.
She was clearly only jealous of Kathy
Hagen was brilliant......................
Low sound
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a shimmering glowing star in the cinema fir. ma ment
Great line. But if you say that again, I will suuue!