Disgaea 7 |Review| - A Return To Greatness?
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The best way to grind in the old games is to go to the item world and trap a high level enemy on a grid that will create a clone and then to place your characters on a grid with invinciblety and see the exp go up
So many creative ways to grind. Never done this strat, probably would’ve saved me a shitload of time
Auto killed it, I hated it. Grinding is part of the process.
throwing ten lv 10-30 enemies together to get something baddass to move your level forward is much easier then setting that up. the only downside is it will kill half your team every time. the latest games all have the cheat shop so you can change those low lv 10 things into lv 60 things(then throw them together into something even bigger)
I did it multiple times but I got accustomed to grinding to the point I’m no longer interested in finishing the game HAHA
Glad you're getting more review codes from RPG companies! Already secured my Disgaea 7 limited edition so I'm glad it got David's seal of approval.
I'm glad to hear they ironed out the kinks with full 3D on this one, and the fact that they have better map design in story battles is especially welcome news! I'm a little confused about jumbo mode, though. How does it work, exactly? The footage just kinda made it look like turn-based rock 'em sock 'em robots
well you need to wait for the jumbo meter to get full and then you can use it to make one character super huge and attack the field of enemies or attack one enemy that is also jumbo too. hope that helps you out and explains it well enought for you.
Disgaea was so good but the 3D sucks and now all characters are horny girls, remember in 1 when we had cool monsters? Now we have cow girl ugh
This looks good. Looks better than 6 to me.
As someone who just got it. It's WAY better than 6. They took fan feedback and improved a lot of stuff and went back to that classic disgaea feeling. Also thank freaking God they removed the crappy item leveling from 6.
@@kurtisvandermiller4507 awesome 👌
as a strategy rpg fan in general, it's not hard to one up whatever the hell 6 was. still blows my mind they released that after 5...
Classic Disgaea feeling as in...? Surely not 5, right? @@kurtisvandermiller4507
Really miss the 2D sprites as a long time player. Man idk i just have not been able to get into 3D disgaea 😢😢. I miss the game so much tho ill probably give in and buy this one. Thanks for this review!
It doesn't even look that bad😅
They need to come out with a Disgaea game that has an advanced AI built into it that allows players to create totally new classes of characters through prompts that we give to the AI describing what we want the character to look like. Also an elaborate character creation system that allows us to sculpt our own class of character. Also need to be done in a way that allows players to have 9,999 saved personally created classes of characters
FFT is the pinnacle of tactical games for me however I like what I see here. The giant size parts look really cool and the battles and characters look fun to use. Thanks David, this looks like a must buy for me.
If you haven't tried it already, I'd highly recommend Fellseal Arbiter. FFT was certainly the pinnacle forever, but I don't think War of the Lions really holds up to Fellseal. The JP farming in particular isn't something I think anyone would say "Yeah, that's the best way to do a job system progression/road block." That said, very much looking forward to the FFT Reborn that'll probably fix JP farming.
@@Scuzoid_Meleeas long as they don’t put that level cap they put in tactics ogre I’m happy. 😁
@@Scuzoid_Melee fel seal is the only game that really managed to scratch that itch for me
FFT and Disgaea are actually quite different games and focus on different gameplay elements.
FFT is so good. Main story, Characters, how different the classes are, the game mechanics and even the cameos. I believe this was the first game I played with a cameo from a different Squaresoft game plus it had a reason.
I dreaded normal fights scaling with me. Lvl 99 yellow Chocobos were mean and would heal allies up to max if you didn't kill them. Yellow Chocobos are basally one of the first enemies you fight and they stay one of the strongest you fight because of scaling.
But story fight would not scale so the last boss was 65 or 85.
MugenLord just pointed out to me there was a survey for what SquarEnix players want next and I saw FFT remake was on the list. I have not been impressed by fake remakes(FF7R) or the new stuff so I don't know if I want them to even consider it. FF16 is the first FF I'm skipping.
Just when I was wondering if I should buy Disgaea 7 and downloaded the demo this reviews comes in. Thank you!
Been a fan of this series since the original on PS2.
The battles and art style look fun but I hate how it plays into the Loli fetish with a couple of those character designs. So I probably won't pick this up.
Thanks for the detailed review either way david
I skipped 6 after playing 5. I'll definitely be hopping back in with this one. I've been waiting fort an entry tantalizing enough to grind the maxes in item world for the optional bosses for what feels like forever.
@@arkadiuszjandylewski152 Same with me man. The 3D just isn't doing it for me. Animations are completely lacking now, and it's nowhere as visually appealing as 2D art and animations. Pokemon had the same issue after 5th gen.
And this is why i i dont buy games at launch or at full price, you know theres going to be issues and a Disgaea 7 Complete will be released in a year, and even then i dont rhink ive ever purchased a Disgaea game at full price, just wait 2 years and you can get D7C with tons of updates and in a much better state for like $30, especially when there's cheaper and better alternatives for now, dont ever let hype or the online gaming community determine your gaming purchases, especially for single player games when the longer you wait both the cheaper and better the game will be, even with all the improvements, it looks like D5 Complete is still the better game, let Nippon Ichi make improvements and release DLC and a Complete version of the game, dont buy the game twice at full price, dont be part of the problem, if ppl keep buying multiple versions of the same game then developers will keep making these lazy "complete editions" and smarter ppl like me will just wait for the better version, actually give us a good reason to buy the game at full price at launch
I love the demo so much, and I can't wait to play it this coming up Sunday and discover all the new main characters you can play as. Plus, I'm crossing my fingers for being able to play as laharl or, better yet, a ninja version of him.
Glad I found your channel, just watched two back to back videos of yours for the first time just now. Hearing your favorite and first was FFT. This channel is my spirit animal now.
Welcome aboard!
Since all characters from previous titles are DLC, i'm guessing there are no secret unlockable characters. If that's the case, then once the main story is completed, this game will fade from everyone's memories and NISA will move on to Disgaea 8 within next two years.
I am definitely slightly juvenile because I always enjoy the humour of these games. I don't find it laught out loud funny, but I appreciate it for what it is.
It's great to hear a positive from you about this new entry, I look forward to checking it out at some point
If I'm being fully honest I still prefer the sprites to 3D, but what really bothered me the most was the stupid numbers for stats in 6 that were just all over the place and not really telling of anything. Then there was the mindless zombies of auto mode, so I did give the game some time to try and see if it improved but it didn't seem to so I stopped playing earlier than expected. I was just about to look up some music from 5 when I saw Disgaea 7 come up in the search bar options and it hit my intrigue to see how things were, I was NOT aware they were making another game so I'm hoping that it's as good as I'm hearing here, it at least looks like an improvement.
The soundtrack mighy be good but nothing beats "moving on" in 5 it was truly perfect music for the ship
Always trust a David review! I was a big fan of the gameplay when I first played Disgaea 5 and bought 6 hoping it wouldn't be cringe but I was disappointed and haven't even finished the game. Looking forward to playing this down the road when it has a good sale
Man I just can’t with the 3D. It feels like such a downgrade in visual quality
Does it have the replayability Disgaea 5? And by that I mean do you still get items every time you repeat a stage like the bonus meter?
Yoooooooo that shirt is dope 😍
Isn't Disgaea supposed to be annoying? I always viewed the game's humor as them making jabs at manga/anime/game tropes and culture 😂 it doesn't take itself too seriously and I have a fun time because of it
I’m glad that Disgaea 7 is a huge improvement over 6. The last game just seemed like an overall lazy experiment that I personally wasn’t a fan of.
I’m also glad that I’m not the only who thought that both 5 and 6 were lacking in the music department. Looking forward to hearing what they got.
Thanks for the review, David! Always appreciate your input!
well at least 5 was better the 6 in everthing else.
@@azurekite3870 Yah, D5 is still the best content wise. I'm hoping D7 does get better with time, it still looks to have less content, especially when you take into account that most of the classes are just gender bends of other classes..
i prefer most of six over what ive seen so far of seven. if they smush those two together i think id fall in love
@@airiakizuki5592 what?
@@ZenKrio what part of my comment is hard to understand?
I don't get why 6 gets so much hate. It was a good game like all the others, granted, I only played the first couple of stages of 3 (rented the game, so didn't have enough time to play it) and haven't played 5.
You still have a place near you that rents games out. Lucky you, all of the rental places near me shut down during the Pandemic.
I already decided to buy this after the demo but i do enjoy hearing ur thoughts on these games 😊😊😊
man I clicked on this video because it made me happy to see that Disgaea is back to form(as a fan of the very first one up until I tried the demo of 6 :(
and the very first frame I see is the cool dragon quest design I drew too :)
Great video!
Awesome!! You designed this shirt? That’s amazing!!
i bought 6 forever ago and im only now playing it and id love it if it werent for the sprites, i really came to see if 7 had improved on them 😭
If it has David's approval, it's worth a look.
this is the first time im viewing your channel. I love how you reviewed this, and I am buying it today! Thank you!!
Welcome aboard and I’m glad I could help!
This is not only one of my favorite rpg series but also favorite game series as a hole and in all honesty I think beside maybe 3&6 thier are no bad games in the hole series in my opinion at least.
My personal ranking for the games are
4&5
Dd2
3&1
2
6
That is my personal ranking o didn't add seven yet because I only played the demo and think it is unfair to rank without fully playing it what is everyone else's personal ranking
I've been a fan of the series since the first game so I will be picking it up. I didn't hate 6 but it was a disappointment, so I'm glad 7 is improving on it in pretty much every way.
It's really good. Disgaea 5 is still the pinnacle of the series in my opinion, but 7 is a massive step in the right direction after the relative disappointment that was 6.
I was so surprised when I was browsing Steam and this game pop up, didn't even knew a new one is already out!
Im thinking about buying this? Was playing d4c+ and d5c but not sure if i should spend the money since i bought disgaea 6 and that wasn't the greatest
post game was underwhelming but its a step in the right direction
Great review! Awesome that you're getting noticed for review codes! Keep it up!
Thanks! Will do!
Can player characters learn weapon skills again? That was one of my biggest gripes with 6 to the point I stopped playing
This is one series that has always intimidated me.
Video idea - talking about all the spin offs you played for Dragonquest// Final Fantasy. Theres so many but they are varying levels of niche -- like the wii crystal chronicles one
These are my favorite types of games(easy to complete the main story with small amount of grinding but hard to complete the extra stuff). Its easy to do the main story and see the best written characters. For most of the Disgaeas you can get 2-5 endings easy but you know it has more out there. You have completed the story, those were cool characters, that was a crazy ride and you wonder how they mixed all that humor in there but you know it has bigger badder bosses hidings in the corners.
How much fun did you have playing the game? Are you really the biggest baddest guy in the nether worlds? It has Baal over there minding his own business. Going by the main story you are a bad ass. Do you want to prove everyone(in the game world) you are a badass to become the strongest demon ever? It will take time and you will not get much from it. You need to enjoy the journey. Number crushing, hunting items, learning all the details, etc.
I believe I killed the top boss once, I forgot which game.
BTW first 2 games are hard to play because of low resolution and how zoomed in it is and some missing quality of life features so you might not enjoy it too much. But I thought the writing was best in them.
I don't agree with some of the points you made about the main reason to play Disgaea games, but will still respect them. I say this because the complaining from D6 is what made these battles the way they are in 7 which is completely unnecessary since all previous titles were know for their easy story maps after Item World grinding. the real difficult part of the game is the postgame after the story is done.
Gonna be ranting here, but people hate on Disgaea 6 WAY too much. It had performance issues and terrible technical issues with the characters yes. I understand the point of the Disgaea games is to grind your characters out, but the auto-battle system was placed for those, mainly the casual audience, that didn't want to waste time grinding everything out to get through the game without much work. Welcome to modern times. This is speaking to anyone, but just ignore it and don't use it if it's a problem. People not liking Zed because of his personality is just their opinions since not every game should have some happy-go lucky, serious or weird character as a protagonist. There will be the dark and edgy ones as well. Those complaining about the 3D models should have expected it. Welcome to change. Most game IPs are always making changes and you're falling behind already. People stuck so far in the last still want all their old experiences to permanently stay with only modernized difficult challenges added and a few new mechanics. That's...pathetic. Might as well play the yearly 2K sports games with that mindset. It was inevitable that it was gonna happen. I played all of the main Disgaea games and enjoyed all of them and always knew that they would go 3D. People whined and complained about the rpg settings of the Assassin's Creed games for example, Ubisoft reverts back to it's roots for the complainers in Assassins Creed Mirage and now many are complaining about how small and short it is. Devisive crowds will always be devisive.
I'm sorry...not to pick on you and I mean that since you're only just expressing your thoughts about what you think of certain things, but every time I hear someone get upset over how "annoying" characters get I both laugh and cringe at the same time. It's an anime game so of course Ao would speak like that. Addressing today's audience, people expect way too much mature themes in nearly every game today...go play Disgaea 5 for that despite the game still having a lot of comical situations. I've seen enough past Disgaea reviews and comments about this situation already and you guys keep forgetting that you're playing Disgaea, a game series known for it's funny humor and silly characters. Not at all known for a serious storyline or serious cast of characters which can be equally as annoying and that's not a joke so yes you'll always get those annoying characters in these types of games. Japan will be Japan. If you want to talk about annoying characters then look at Disgaea's 1's very own Laharl despite him being a cool character.
Aside from all that said your review was good even though I'm watching this late. I'll be playing the crap out of this game right now.
Yoo man, you making it! These people are making it rain on you bro! Unfortunately as much as I like the Disgaea series a problem I have is the emphasis on huge numbers and basically breaking an already broken game, it is cool for what it does. I appreciate Disgaea 7 being good looking too!
While I liked Disgaea 6 more than almost everyone else did, I still wouldn't have wanted it to be the future direction for the franchise. 7 looks totally awesome, though, I'm glad to see NIS took the feedback to heart
i wish we got another phantom brave tbh
Disgaea is my series I will buy systems to play.
6 was boring but I did like the base idea of continual growth it had.
It was both to fast and to slow for me.
Hearing 7 is a return to the better parts of the series is good.
Next pay check is going to buying Disgaea 7.
Thanks for this review.
I completed it and did some post game on the Japanese version when that came out.
Can say 100% it is a fantastic game with memorable characters, unlike 6 which shall not be named ever again.
Highly recommend!
Ohh I am playing it in Japenese too lol!
The last Disgaea i full played through was 4 and its still my favorite of them all with its zany characters and unlikely combination as they make their way to payback the evil guy, its one that just took my attention and kept me in the grind for the full 350 hours it took me to get to baal (and only about 10h to finish the story lol).
D5 i played a decent amount of, but all the edginess and everyone having a dark backstory which requires revenge was a little too off-putting.
D6 i own but never really felt the need to want to play, half if it was them moving off sprites in favor of chibi models, the other half was that their promotions just did not making it seem that interesting. That said it did include some features which makes me hopeful for D7 the main one being macros that you can setup to replay maps (you individually craft each button press so they take a while to get but the payoff makes it more worth it then anything else you can be doing).
D7 I'm looking forward to since they brought back the interesting character designs and although the 3d chibi models still makes me feel weird overall, i think i can get over it for this game, its long been ordered and just waiting for it to ship out on Oct 3rd.
I agree with you. It's so good. I played demo a couple days ago and now I have playing full game with dlc. It's a great game again.
Would like to see this game played to achieve the 'handicap challanges'. So far every walkthrough I've seen is all grinding and no tactics
Tactical RPGs never really are my cup of tea, but I seem willing to give this one a try. This looks really cool and interesting.
Also one more thing I'd like to ask about this long awaited franchise of mine.... will there be any dlc. I just love it when they add old characters to sequels, such as being able to play as laharl in disgaea 5. It kind of makes you wonder if they have a part 3 in the works for disgaea 1 😂
You're Jacked dude! Good work, keep it up!
The humor might not always be for everyone but I feel like 1-4 story still holds up after that I don't know what they were thinking
I've played them all (except 7, but i plan to). Disgaea 2 is still the best out of the series to me, and I don't even understand why lol. They all have the goofy mischievious comedy storylines that get serious sometimes.
I’m just glad it’s not way overpriced like 6
Finished the Demo and can't wait to continue it. The new Item leveling system with reincarnation sounds like a good improvement.
Got myself a new pc a few months ago so was just looking to see what was comeing out and I seen disgea7 haven't played one since number2, so im hopeing this ones good (and ff tactics in hs your about as old as me so subbing lol)
Despite 7 being a step above 6 it fall really short in narrative, casts, and whacky humor compare to past entries. They didn't improve much gameplay wise aside from more QOL improvements. Add on that you have to buy dlc to recruit previous main characters which were fully free and voice acted in past games like 1,2,3,4 makes this installment a hardpast to any hardcore fan that had been playing since the beginning.
I really want this game, but I know they’ll release a complete edition at some point, because they’re surely going to add dlc.
The DLCS are already out, sold separately
Hey David, I don't mean to ruin your topic of discussion, but I just found out we're getting an HD remake for legends of legacy for the ps4 😅
Yep, I’m going to cover that on the news this weekend!!
Another great review! I’m a big fan of the “Disgaea” series! Especially the original, “D2”, and “Disgaea 5” (and the cast of “Disgaea 4” is excellent! Especially Desco!!!). I never picked up “Disgaea 6” because of its performance issues on Switch. (But I might give it a try on my Steam Deck). I wasn’t planning on picking this one up but I might now.
7 is an improvement, but I wish they would make the cameo characters a little more dynamic.
Etna was a major part of disgaea 2, for instance. It wouldn't hurt for them to at least do something similar again...and I wish they'd do a proper sequel for Disgaea 2.
Also, I checked the Playstation store, and it's still not up for buying. So I'll check back at 7 am, lol
This looks so much better than 6. I was losing faith there for a sec 😅
2:58 One more reason David will never play Genshin impact: the voices.
I played the Demo and really like the game so far. D6 was so bad! Imho D5 is the best, when it comes to gameplay. The sage class cuts the grinding in halve at least. I hope that I will enjoy D7 too.
I find the series a bit intimidating so I've never got into it, but I'm glad they've made improvements from the last entry for fans of the series
David100K!
Glad you got early access! Square needs to really get on board, especially for getting you access to Dragon Quest games. The "smart" Square Enix rep would get you the physical collector's edition of any Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, is that too much to ask??? |-)
Can I continue my save from the demo? Or do I start over in the full game?
I always find it weird that everyone nowadays knows Disgaea as the haha wacky/childish humor games to the point its almost expected,when the first 2 games in the series were so serious and emotional albeit with some humorous moments.After all this time I dont think any of the other entries have come close to the story of Disgaea 1 and 2
Demo was good might buy it but still prefer d5
The characters and story here sounds just up my alley and it sounds funny too which I love about this series but after just barely being able to beat the main story of 4 and no being able to do anything else, I had to stop playing these games. I love the stories and characters but the gameplay and game's difficulty getting in the way of me enjoying the story and characters really brought series down for me.
I'm lucky to even beat the main story so touching any of the cool, funny, fun story bits in the post game is an impossibility for me. I can't stay in one map for hours just to pass it and get stuck the next for hours too which sucks cause other than the gameplay and hard asf difficulty of these games I really like the stories and characters. Sigh, if only there was something like in KH3 ReMind where it can ways to make the game super easy so I could just enjoy the stories and characters, which is super weird it doesn't but oh well. Gonna have to enjoy other games. Maybe one day there'll have an Easy difficulty for people like me who just enjoy games stories and characters, maybe one day.
man just wanted to say the background is epic you seem to have a nice room there and if a woman come in your life and want to fuck it all up don't let her walk over you and hold your ground no many ppl have a nice room like that with all theses memories could be worth a lot later on too
Haha, thanks, but something tells me I won’t be having that problem :)
revisiting this game again, yes, 2d sprite definetly more charming, this looks just lazy
anyone saying 2d looks old just didn't understand what they got here, what you got, is actually a worse product overall, not only this is much easier to produce, it looks cheap too, and for you not to recieve a boatload of content for this cheap looks says a lot.
I stopped playing after they dropped the old school pixel / sprite style. The polygons look like crap. Thankfully we've got 1-5
Just a warning for all the people in the comments, whilst Disgaea is a trpg, it isnt really a trpg.
I didn't even know there was a Disgaea 6.
Where did you get that DQ slime shirt?!
Too many spoilers for those that haven't played. People looking for a review only need a few story beats and then mostly gameplay changes.
Personally I'm looking for why you think this game is good vs the previous versions. I have played 1234 d2 5 skipped 6, due too all the fans saying this is the worst and now they are saying 7 is a return to form i want to know in what way.
I'm willing to accept the move to 3d but so far other reviewers have said this game has low characters, limited auto battle, you said a more interesting story but i'm not sure that's worth 100 for all dlc.
Maybe the best thing to do is just wait 5 years and buy at a good price on sale. I still got more grinding to do on a new save on disgaea 2 and 5 and i would play 3 and d2 if it came to pc.
I'm going rather slow but I'm loving it.
They killed the number bloat(OMG I hated number bloat).
Reincarnation makes sense again. Why have Super Reincarnation without Reincarnation.
I do miss the unique innocents but the item traits and item Reincarnation is a neat replacement.
I do like the characters in Disgaea 7 more than 6.
Many of the classes had male and female versions in older Disgaea which I thought were bland well Disgaea 7 added even more. If the class is so similar it is practically the same can we just have it be the same class and have the option to change sex? It would cut the fake classes at least by 1/3. 2 of the male classes have guys dressed up as girls. Heretic(male healer) and Magician(Skull).
The male healer always looked odd but he didn't have bangs and pig tails.
The Skull I always thought of as a knock off witch but he wore a cool mask. Big black eyes, stitched up mouth and the 2 things on his head made me think he was trying to do some mixture of a jester.
Skull - Am I a joke to you? Here is a fire ball to your army, a iceberg to you castle, tornado to your village or a moon goddess's anger to your dragon.
Skull - *evil laugh*
Magician - Am I a joke to you?
Enemy - I thought you were cute.
Magician - I'm a guy
Enemy - Oops my mistake
Magician - *blush*
Enemy Ninja/Kunoichi - Back attack 99,999,999
I really wanted to like disgaea, but the art style and humour just never spoke to me. I gave it a good try with 5 but just couldn't get into it. This one looks better than 5, and 6 though. I may consider trying it out if it ever goes on sale.
Also, I'd love to point out how much I loved their official trailer that was released because if it wasn't for that, I would have never discovered the band tsunami bomb ❤
I felt the same way in 2003, with the trailer for the original Disgaea.
it can be great but it can't be perfect until the move back to 2d sprite
Looks good. I'll check it out later.
Yep I'm getting it for switch and I am a strange one as I like the humor but I do think ao is annoying too 😅
I c your hulking out getting ready for twitchcon lol
Did you say 45 classes?!?! 😳😲
7 is way better then 6 but I still enjoyed 6 to be honest
I haven't played a Disgaea in a long time. And I'm hungry for some SRPGs, seems like a try
Since playing Xcom 2 no tactical rpg hit the mark anymore. 😢
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WHERE!? 👀😆
Right here :)
I'd like to get into Disgaea and I own most of them on Steam, but I don't know which one to start with. Ideally the beginning, but given how grindy they are and how much of a conpletionist I am, I don't think there's time for that.
I'd start with Disgaea 5. Or 7.
Disgaea 4 isn't bad either (and is particularly challenging).
start with one cuz its kind of hard to go back to the older games after playing the newer ones. just take your time and complete them at youre leasure. if you just want to play one of the games then you cant go wrong with 5.
7 is already an improvement over 6. Love these games.
great review but I sadly cannot get into Disgaea because of the dumb humor it is just not for me. I had a similar issue with Hyperdimension Neptunia. Alas even though I love SRPGs I just cannot do this series :(
How/why is there STILL no online co-op!? :'( Seems like such an obvious choice but they're not the only ones making the wrong one . . .
EDITTED to add: I'll probably get it anyway :P
Hi hunk I can't let a video pass me by without saying hi now you have me locked on david
I'm not going to get it, but I'm definitely going to watch my friend play it
didnt even know this was coming out sweet!
Are there any mainline Disgaea games that haven't gotten some kind of Complete edition after a year or so?
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Game is sitting at a n impressive 86% on open critic. Haven't played one since 4 complete.
I’ve always been interested in the series.. However there’s definitely a lot to it and will def require many hours of your time to master.. May as well just learn to play an instrument lol