I just bought a Standard. Does the D-Tuna installation prevent the tremolo from being able to be pulled up? I like using my tremolo both up and down, just curious if the D-Tuna will prevent the pulling up motion.
@@rocknstv570 Wolfgangs are not meant to be able to pull up, they’re supposed to be set flush so only dives are enables. If you have it set floating you won’t be able to use the DTuna
What was that awesome song you were playing @ the end demo? Just finished my vintage Kramer Americana Sustainer D-Tuna install with an ESP Arming Adjuster for floating stabilization in E Flat standard to Drop C#. Complex setup but wow, now done, it’s incredible!!! 😅
@@Ryan-hi1hl I bought and got rid of this thing after a few weeks. Just didn't work with my Charvel Model 4 and orig Floyd. Way too much fine tuning to do when using the bar, and I had the trem blocked as much as it could be, and even with that, it wasn't a good experience. I'm back to full floating and loving it!
I'm finding I have to turn the side fine tuner screw in so far when in the D tuna is pushed in to E tuning position, it makes it really hard to push and pull the D tuna in and out. No matter how I tune to drop D, when I push the D tuna in for E tuning, it's at least a 1/4 step down and then I have to adjust the fine tuner quite a bit, which makes it hard to move the D tuna. Doesn't seem like there's anything else to adjust when you tune to drop D initially, as the instructions say. I've even tried to have the Floyd fine tuner pressing down on the screw just a little.
@@NickATFGuitarMan Update: I put a better block on my Floyd, and that problem seems to have gone away! The only issue I have now is when changing the low E string and fiddling with that side set screw, but once it's dialed it's fine. I removed the D Tuna for some months bc it was so frustrating, but then decided to try again. Glad I did.
What happens then if you need to raise the entire bridge in order to raise the action? Do you need to tighten the springs to have it sitting at an angle against the body of the guitar?
I had that issue on my wolfgang standard and honestly the best way about it then is just to use a tremolo stopper to make it dive-only. The D-Tuna might not work with the bridge at a downward angle.
Could you do a video about installing an extended key on a bass? Maybe include how to tell the diameter of the holes in the headstock so someone will know exactly which one to buy.
I just got a Kramer Illusionist guitar. I was wondering how to set this d-tuner. My brother ask because he was trying to figure it out. Oh and thanks, very helpful.
Seems to me the FR should float above the body a bit inline with the strings and be able to pull up on the bar some. The bridge pulled back hard by the springs and against the body seriously sucks.
If I install this would I only be able to have the Floyd fully floating while in drop tuning and dive only when I use the d tuna to switch to standard tuning I really like the concept and I’m interested in getting one I just had this one question I need answered before I pull the trigger so to speak
Thank you!!! Very helpful! If I may ask, do you close the neck screws at the end of all the process or the fine tuning of the D Tuna with "the smallest" LKey is after closing the neck screws? Many thanks
Thanks a lot! I lock the nut after tuning all the strings with the D tune pulled out. Then I start fine tuning the D tuna itself. I hope that helps. //Kris
I was going to install this with a tremol no so I can set my trem to float or dive only I had the misconception that you tune the guitar to standard tuning and use the d tuner to change to drop d but I found out that you tune to drop tuning then use the d tune to switch to standard tuning so I figured if you set the Floyd to float in drop d you would be able to pull up but when you engage the d tuner you would have to be in dive only mode I might just get it and do some experimenting to find out for my self and post my results I might also make a video I also saw you can leave it floating with a trem stabilizer so I’m thinking about experimenting with having a trem stabilizer, tremol no and d tuner installed at the same time to get full function of my Floyd while it’s floating andbeing able to use the d tuner to quickly switch between standard to drop d I can contact you once I made my findings
Oh manno, ich hab bei Thomann jetzt zwei Systeme bestellt + einen Blocker: Guitar-Guard Hardtailer Trem Block System - Tone Vise Pitch Shifter for Floyd Rose - Evh D-Tuna Drop D Red. Der Blocker funktioniert soweit, ist dann sicherlich in Zukunft immer nen Krimi, vor einem Gig das so genau anzugleichen, dass Floating und Aufleger in der gleichen Stellung sind. Der Tone Vise Pitch Shifter hat mir bei der Installation fast das Gegenfeder-Blech abgerissen, Schraube zu kurz - nicht einsetzbar - Produkt nicht kompatibel, obwohl ich ein Schaller Lockmeister habe, also original-Floyd Rose Maße. Beim D-Tuna werden schonmal zwei Längen Imbus-Schrauben für hinten ausgeliefert - da die Produkte das gleiche kosten, definitiv Vorteil EVH. Ich bekomme aber leider keine 2 Halbtöne beim "rein-raus" ... für nen Halbton würde das D-Tuna vielleicht fast funnzen, aber ich hab das Problem sogar an ner EVH Wolfgang beim Antesten im Laden erlebt: Wenn man die Justierschraube weiter reindreht, kannste den Stöpsel nurnoch mit Gewalt rein und rausziehen. Ich bin frustiert. Kann mir jemadn sagen, wo mein Fehler ist?
Hi! I intent to buy such gadget, but I'm wondering will it works for drop C if guitar is tuned one step below(in D). And also will it works for 7 string guitar tuned in D. Actually the aim is 6 string to be drop C and 7 string to become in G.
My d tuna gets stuck and I can not pull it out to the "D" position when I have tuned it to "E" with the allen wrench, does anyone know how to fix that? Right now the only way is to tune it down a bit and then pull it out to "D" but then it gets out of tune when it's in the "E" position and I need to use the allen wrench every time I use it.
I only had issues sometimes with D Tunas, when the fine tuner screw of the low E string was way down -> turned almost all the way in. That's important with a D Tuna. If the fine tuner screw doesn't push the D Tuna lower and lower, it moves way easier to its "drop D" and "standard tuning" positions. Hope that helps! //Kris
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Ive got the exact same problem, Drop D is in tune but the low E is always a little bit too low, but when I tighten the finetuning screw, I cannot pull it out. How do I solve this?
Hey, you didn't write what kind of bridge your guitar has. Floyd style? Traditional trem? Gibson style stop-tail? The Ghost system from Graph Tech is really good. They have saddles for most bridge types and even a full floating trem: www.thomann.de/de/graph_tech_ghost_lb63_fr_bridge_bk.htm (check if it's compatible with your guitar on their website of course). Cheers //Kris
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses I'm planning on building a custom in which I can put these two functions on. Im thinking if its possible to install a drop tuna on a Wilkinson type. If I'll use a floyd rose, would there be another way of putting a piezo system as an alternative to the grap tech because it cost a lot. Thanks!
Generally yes but FU Tone sells a stabilizer spring you can put in the back cavity so you can use the d tuna on a floating bridge. Check their website and instructional videos also on here.
@@VioletSerenade Thanks. I heard someone say that the D-tuna is unnecessary because you can just tune to drop D and then use the fine tuner on the bridge to go up to E. I tried that but went I went up to E it threw all of the other strings off (probably because I don't have my bridge completely flush with the body)......
@@humanbeing2420 Yeah i freud the fine tuner trick but it wouldn’t go far enough for me. Also disclaimer, if you want to use the D-Tuna you’re gonna need to have the bridge completely flush with the body so you cannot pull up at all. Hope it helps mate
@@VioletSerenade Thanks - good point. The reason I don't have the bridge flush is because I use 10s, and when I put them on I had to increase the spring tension but had trouble turning one of the two screws for the spring assembly in back. I was at risk of stripping the screw head so I just got it as close as I could and called it a day. It's only about 1-2 mm above the body - I don't use it to pull up or anything. Edit: I probably should invest in some higher quality tools - I have an extremely basic home repair tool set.
No. No you don't. You just need a FU style tremel- no that stabilizes/prevents the bridge from falling into the route. Costs like 20$. This guy should have mentioned this EASY MOD SPECIFICALLY.
I have a d-tuna on my N4. I just blocked the bridge so that it can dive only, but can't pull up. This is required for the d-tuna anyway, as the guitar will always go out of tune using the d-tuna if the bridge is free floating. The d-tuna sits around a quarter inch or so above the guitar body.
This actually doesn't work on my EVH Peavey Wolfgang Deluxe guitar, and yes, that is after going through a tutorial over webcam with the guy that sells them.
If you use some tool to keep your Floyd from going up you can still use the D-Tuna. Something like a Tremol-no. You can also find "Tremolo Stop Locks" on ebay that can turn your guitar to dive only. Once those are fitted and adjusted you can lock your tremolo to only go down, as if it was resting on the body. That way you can use a D-Tuna no problem.
Thank you for the tutorial , I have and EVH Wolfgang signature,absolutely love it .But I’ve notice when I have the D Tuna out it seems loose and it rattles on certain notes, what should I do to remedy this ? Thank you
Use the shorter string lock screw that come with the d-tuna. This will make the spring tension in the d-tuna tighter so it holds it in place without rattling.
The problem with the D tuna is it DOESN'T WORK, with most floyde rose set ups. It was built for the Wolfgang guitar or a Kramer like Ed's. So basically it's marketing a product that only fits YOUR PRODUCT. A more inclusive design would be like a hipshot on a bass where there's locking machine heads that release a full step when triggered.
When using the fine tune adjustments on the D-tuna with the Allen key, should the unit be pulled out or pushed in to make those adjustments? Amazing videos as always! Much love from Boston 🤘🏻
@@chrisstevens4680 You have to use the Allen key because you're not supposed to have the fine tuner in use with this thing - it's not practical and when you go to standard it will never be in tune. The people that rave about how great it is either aren't actually using it in standard, are out of tune and don't realize it, or have a trem lock - because a floating bridge can't stay tuned in both tunings at the same level of tension, it's physically impossible. Tightening a string a full step, pulls more tension on the springs, which loosen tension in all other strings. If you're tuned in drop D, it won't be in tune in standard, and if you tune it to standard, it won't be in tune in drop D (only the low E string can stay in tune in both tunings). It's a gimmick, not really worth it.
@@chrisstevens4680 You have to use the allen key. With the D-tuna installed, you should never use the fine tuner on the bridge on the low E string anymore.
@@nvlddmkm1282 That's correct. It only works if you have the bridge fully blocked or at least blocked so it can dive only, not pull up. The bridge can't be free-floating. It says this in the D-tuna install instructions that come with it.
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Oh, but there is a similar thing... Khaller Bass tremolo (interesting piece of gear, I wonder why I cannot find that at thomann's)... Combine that with a Hipshot extender :D
The inherent floating trem design, makes it so this will never stay in tune in either standard or drop - because like was mentioned, it affects the string tension which raises/lowers the tension in the other strings each time you flip it. The only way to keep it in tune is to trem lock (which kinda defeats the purpose). These things are more trouble than they're worth imo.
So it’s pointless? The advantage of a Floyd is that it’s floating but with this it has to be pulled against the body all the time. so it’s dive only so you might as well have a regular trem.
Well, just partially. You still have the benefits of using a Floyd if it sits on the body. You have the sound and the tuning stability compared to a vintage tremolo. And one huge plus: if you break a string with a Floyd like that, the other strings don't go totally out of tune so you can finish up the song. That actually saved a number of gigs in my life. haha //cheers, Kris
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses People say stuff like this but their intonation is completely out and they can't tell, so take this guy's comment with a grain of salt...
Have an EVH wolfgang special stealth with d-tuna... As soon as I go from D to E all other strings go flat... Even if use only fine tuner to drop or raise the pitch, other strings goes flat/sharp. I have a lot of frustration with it, it is easier to retune all strings. So, d-tuna kinda work, for listener, but not for experienced player... Or if your don't care/can't hear it.
I mean that's just how string tension works. When adding tension to one string, the neck bends in slightly making the rest go flat. A good trick would be to tune slightly sharp in Standard or slightly flat in drop D and then you're out less on either end.
I think the part you may have missed is that you need to block the bridge so that it's either fully blocked or so that you can push bar down but you can't pull up on it. If you leave the bridge free floating, any change in string tension, such using the d-tuna, will cause the other strings to go out of tune.
Just did my 1st string change on my Suhr strat with a Gotah Floyd and d tuner and couldn't get the e to go back. to e. Now I know why. The little Allen key on the side of the push pull is a fine tuner too. Thank you!
Hmm with a club beat there...No outtakes.. once once once once🤔 ... One of those would be cool but would kill an excuse for more guitars. My Schecter B2FR is always tuned to drop D, RG to D standard, etc. 🤣😂🤣
Question. The screw that is adjusted with the small Allen key. Just as you have a default for the fine tuner with the d-tuna what is the default for the screw you adjust with the Allen key when you start to tune the low E?
Enjoying mine but still fiddling with the tuning as it doesn’t want to stay perfectly in tune in either one of the standard or drop if I tune one perfectly. I think it would be good to mention where the little Allen screw should sit starting out, where if it’s in too far, you won’t be able to pop the tuna inward.
Had a similar issue with mine. I had the fine tuner halfway down couldn’t remember why. Took it up and the dtuna worked perfectly just had to dial in the fine tuner on the side. 2018 USA EVH Signature Model (white). Awesome guitar.
Thanks for this! I have the problem that even after following the instructions exactly, my "E" ends up way too sharp, with the drop "D" being in tune, the fine tuner on the bridge all the way up, and the fine tuner on the D-Tuna also all the way up and away from the screw. I can make the switch work only by adjusting the tuner on the bridge a little. What am I doing wrong? Any help would be appreciated.
At Thomann for example. Just not right now. It's been heavily sold out so you can't find it in the web store. This will change though as soon as Allparts can ship enough of them. //cheers, Kris
I just bought a Jackson dinky from 1989 and it has Schaller tremolo licensed under Floyd Rose and this tremolo has shortened screws. Is there a solution to that type of tremolo?
You have to complain at Yamaha then. haha! I mean it's the THR which is a practicing amp and we recorded the line out sound (not mic'd sound). For that, it's actually pretty good imo. //cheers, Kris
My D-Tuna from Thomann arrived today and works like a dream on my EVH Wolfgang Standard! Thanks guys
cool .. that's exactly what I did on my Standard.
I just bought a Standard. Does the D-Tuna installation prevent the tremolo from being able to be pulled up? I like using my tremolo both up and down, just curious if the D-Tuna will prevent the pulling up motion.
@@rocknstv570 Wolfgangs are not meant to be able to pull up, they’re supposed to be set flush so only dives are enables. If you have it set floating you won’t be able to use the DTuna
@@VioletSerenade Yeah, that's what I thought. I have mine set floating. Thanks!
You are a lifesaver sir - I've been trying to learn how to manage my D-Tuna myself and this video made everything click.
Cheers,
Toke
Hey Toke, that's awesome! Glad to hear that. Cheers //Kris
D is always fine but the E is always flat. The grub screw is wonky and doesn't fine tune at all.
What was that awesome song you were playing @ the end demo? Just finished my vintage Kramer Americana Sustainer D-Tuna install with an ESP Arming Adjuster for floating stabilization in E Flat standard to Drop C#. Complex setup but wow, now done, it’s incredible!!! 😅
Have one on my guitars. They are amazing! Would love them on all my 6 strings
I was informed it probably won't work on all strings
@@mattspringer8393 lmao...he means on his guitars....not each string
@@johnvalderrama9339😂
@@mattspringer8393🙃
NICE. I initially made the mistake of not tightening the springs. What a nightmare.
so If I need to have a fixed bridge, why have a Floyd Rose? Just have a fixed bridge and tune E to D as needed.
How about the D, B and high E strings staying in tune tune when switching between E and drop D ?
@@Ryan-hi1hl I bought and got rid of this thing after a few weeks. Just didn't work with my Charvel Model 4 and orig Floyd. Way too much fine tuning to do when using the bar, and I had the trem blocked as much as it could be, and even with that, it wasn't a good experience. I'm back to full floating and loving it!
I'm finding I have to turn the side fine tuner screw in so far when in the D tuna is pushed in to E tuning position, it makes it really hard to push and pull the D tuna in and out. No matter how I tune to drop D, when I push the D tuna in for E tuning, it's at least a 1/4 step down and then I have to adjust the fine tuner quite a bit, which makes it hard to move the D tuna. Doesn't seem like there's anything else to adjust when you tune to drop D initially, as the instructions say. I've even tried to have the Floyd fine tuner pressing down on the screw just a little.
I'm having these same issues with my evh wolfgang. I wish I could get it to work.
@@NickATFGuitarMan Update: I put a better block on my Floyd, and that problem seems to have gone away! The only issue I have now is when changing the low E string and fiddling with that side set screw, but once it's dialed it's fine. I removed the D Tuna for some months bc it was so frustrating, but then decided to try again. Glad I did.
Is it possible to put a evh d-tuna on a Ibanez Jem/pia?
What happens then if you need to raise the entire bridge in order to raise the action? Do you need to tighten the springs to have it sitting at an angle against the body of the guitar?
I had that issue on my wolfgang standard and honestly the best way about it then is just to use a tremolo stopper to make it dive-only. The D-Tuna might not work with the bridge at a downward angle.
Could you do a video about installing an extended key on a bass? Maybe include how to tell the diameter of the holes in the headstock so someone will know exactly which one to buy.
You measure it?
@@corygoff9996 there are people who are not sure on exactly how to measure the diameter of the hole
@@wadecourtney8958 they need to go back to 3rd grade then
@@corygoff9996 plus some people might not be able to see the marks on a tape measured too
@@wadecourtney8958 at that point they're not qualified to work on they guitar and should schedule an appointment with an optometrist
Very helpful, THANKS
Thanks ! Very well explained and useful man
I have a standard Floyd Rose bridge, do i have to stop it from floating with a Tremolno or something on that lines to use a D Tuna?
Yes, a floating bridge needs a trem stop of some sort otherwise you're going to have a ton of issues.
Black box stabilizer and tone vise pitch shifter
I need this for playing Hear About It Later 😪
I just got a Kramer Illusionist guitar. I was wondering how to set this d-tuner. My brother ask because he was trying to figure it out. Oh and thanks, very helpful.
My D-Tuna is stuck as well as the tuner screw. I can’t pull it out. Any ideas?
I’m pretty sure you have to loosen the nut before you start the first process which wasn’t shown from the beginning
Can you do tutorial on how to install drop tuner for bass ?
That sounds like a really good idea. :) It's a different kind of drop tuner (on the machine head) but it's a cool subject. :)
//cheers, Kris
Seems to me the FR should float above the body a bit inline with the strings and be able to pull up on the bar some. The bridge pulled back hard by the springs and against the body seriously sucks.
Ah yes tom cavanagh shredding it 😂😂
Well done video my friend
If I install this would I only be able to have the Floyd fully floating while in drop tuning and dive only when I use the d tuna to switch to standard tuning I really like the concept and I’m interested in getting one I just had this one question I need answered before I pull the trigger so to speak
Get a tone vise pitch shifter and a black box stabilizer, you won't have to block the trem based on the research that I've done
Installing a Evertune bridge?
Thank you!!! Very helpful!
If I may ask, do you close the neck screws at the end of all the process or the fine tuning of the D Tuna with "the smallest" LKey is after closing the neck screws? Many thanks
Thanks a lot! I lock the nut after tuning all the strings with the D tune pulled out. Then I start fine tuning the D tuna itself. I hope that helps. //Kris
Many thanks!!!!
1:33 me when my mom walks into my room while im sinning
😂 Be careful with those neck muscles. //Kris
I was going to install this with a tremol no so I can set my trem to float or dive only I had the misconception that you tune the guitar to standard tuning and use the d tuner to change to drop d but I found out that you tune to drop tuning then use the d tune to switch to standard tuning so I figured if you set the Floyd to float in drop d you would be able to pull up but when you engage the d tuner you would have to be in dive only mode I might just get it and do some experimenting to find out for my self and post my results I might also make a video I also saw you can leave it floating with a trem stabilizer so I’m thinking about experimenting with having a trem stabilizer, tremol no and d tuner installed at the same time to get full function of my Floyd while it’s floating andbeing able to use the d tuner to quickly switch between standard to drop d I can contact you once I made my findings
Black box stabilizer and tone vise pitch shifter.
Why the d-tuna accessories came with two screws?, when to use wich?, the one with smaller or larger length?
would it work on a Adrian smith Jackson
Hey,
How would I tune this without the tiny allan key?
Thanks!
Will this limit my ability to whammy up due to its length on a floating FR?
No
Yes, idk what that other guy is talking about
Everything is in tune but when I start playing or bending the 6th string starts getting out of tune, can you explain me why please?
Cheers Kris!
Cheers Mark! :)
Is it possible to set up the DTuner for lowing the string from E to B? Thanks
Hello i got a Ibanez Jem with an floating flyod Rose. Could i use that Drop d tuner for that as well ? Thanks for your Asnwer
Hi, I'm afraid not. The shape of the D Tuna doesn't fit Ibanez tremolos. Sorry for the bad news. //Kris
Could you put one on each string?
Not enough taker for a guitar like this. Hope to see some Fender tools and accessories on this channel
Has the Fine Tuner some function if it's up as high as possible? You can't tune your E string lower... Or am I wrong?
My little Allen screw isn’t in the side 😬
2 springs? Are you using 08s or something?
Hello Kris... Would this work on a Gibson LP Axcess with floyd rose if we add a tremol-no? Thanks again!
Oh manno, ich hab bei Thomann jetzt zwei Systeme bestellt + einen Blocker: Guitar-Guard Hardtailer Trem Block System - Tone Vise Pitch Shifter for Floyd Rose - Evh D-Tuna Drop D Red. Der Blocker funktioniert soweit, ist dann sicherlich in Zukunft immer nen Krimi, vor einem Gig das so genau anzugleichen, dass Floating und Aufleger in der gleichen Stellung sind. Der Tone Vise Pitch Shifter hat mir bei der Installation fast das Gegenfeder-Blech abgerissen, Schraube zu kurz - nicht einsetzbar - Produkt nicht kompatibel, obwohl ich ein Schaller Lockmeister habe, also original-Floyd Rose Maße. Beim D-Tuna werden schonmal zwei Längen Imbus-Schrauben für hinten ausgeliefert - da die Produkte das gleiche kosten, definitiv Vorteil EVH. Ich bekomme aber leider keine 2 Halbtöne beim "rein-raus" ... für nen Halbton würde das D-Tuna vielleicht fast funnzen, aber ich hab das Problem sogar an ner EVH Wolfgang beim Antesten im Laden erlebt: Wenn man die Justierschraube weiter reindreht, kannste den Stöpsel nurnoch mit Gewalt rein und rausziehen. Ich bin frustiert. Kann mir jemadn sagen, wo mein Fehler ist?
Hi! I intent to buy such gadget, but I'm wondering will it works for drop C if guitar is tuned one step below(in D). And also will it works for 7 string guitar tuned in D. Actually the aim is 6 string to be drop C and 7 string to become in G.
Yes all of that will work
While setting up the d tuna after you get it set. Do you lock the nit back in d or in e?
D
My d tuna gets stuck and I can not pull it out to the "D" position when I have tuned it to "E" with the allen wrench, does anyone know how to fix that? Right now the only way is to tune it down a bit and then pull it out to "D" but then it gets out of tune when it's in the "E" position and I need to use the allen wrench every time I use it.
I only had issues sometimes with D Tunas, when the fine tuner screw of the low E string was way down -> turned almost all the way in.
That's important with a D Tuna. If the fine tuner screw doesn't push the D Tuna lower and lower, it moves way easier to its "drop D" and "standard tuning" positions.
Hope that helps! //Kris
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Ive got the exact same problem, Drop D is in tune but the low E is always a little bit too low, but when I tighten the finetuning screw, I cannot pull it out. How do I solve this?
What type of bridge should I get if I want a piezo function with a drop tuna?
Hey, you didn't write what kind of bridge your guitar has. Floyd style? Traditional trem? Gibson style stop-tail? The Ghost system from Graph Tech is really good. They have saddles for most bridge types and even a full floating trem: www.thomann.de/de/graph_tech_ghost_lb63_fr_bridge_bk.htm
(check if it's compatible with your guitar on their website of course). Cheers //Kris
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses I'm planning on building a custom in which I can put these two functions on. Im thinking if its possible to install a drop tuna on a Wilkinson type. If I'll use a floyd rose, would there be another way of putting a piezo system as an alternative to the grap tech because it cost a lot. Thanks!
Do you have to have the trem in dive only to use this I’m worried about the other strings going sharp when using this
Generally yes but FU Tone sells a stabilizer spring you can put in the back cavity so you can use the d tuna on a floating bridge. Check their website and instructional videos also on here.
I bought an EVH Wolfgang Standard brand new a few months ago and want to install a D-tuna. I assume there is no reason I cannot do that - correct?
easily done, i did it to my standard
@@VioletSerenade Thanks. I heard someone say that the D-tuna is unnecessary because you can just tune to drop D and then use the fine tuner on the bridge to go up to E. I tried that but went I went up to E it threw all of the other strings off (probably because I don't have my bridge completely flush with the body)......
@@humanbeing2420 Yeah i freud the fine tuner trick but it wouldn’t go far enough for me.
Also disclaimer, if you want to use the D-Tuna you’re gonna need to have the bridge completely flush with the body so you cannot pull up at all.
Hope it helps mate
@@VioletSerenade Thanks - good point. The reason I don't have the bridge flush is because I use 10s, and when I put them on I had to increase the spring tension but had trouble turning one of the two screws for the spring assembly in back. I was at risk of stripping the screw head so I just got it as close as I could and called it a day. It's only about 1-2 mm above the body - I don't use it to pull up or anything. Edit: I probably should invest in some higher quality tools - I have an extremely basic home repair tool set.
I have a Washburn N4, and the bridge (Floyd Rose) is a few milimeters under the top, so seems to be that I'll have to buy another guitar 😁
No. No you don't. You just need a FU style tremel- no that stabilizes/prevents the bridge from falling into the route. Costs like 20$. This guy should have mentioned this EASY MOD SPECIFICALLY.
I have a d-tuna on my N4. I just blocked the bridge so that it can dive only, but can't pull up. This is required for the d-tuna anyway, as the guitar will always go out of tune using the d-tuna if the bridge is free floating. The d-tuna sits around a quarter inch or so above the guitar body.
Great.
This actually doesn't work on my EVH Peavey Wolfgang Deluxe guitar, and yes, that is after going through a tutorial over webcam with the guy that sells them.
Really? I was about to order it.
I was excited to buy one of these for my razorback until you said you needed a top mounted floyd LOL
If you use some tool to keep your Floyd from going up you can still use the D-Tuna. Something like a Tremol-no. You can also find "Tremolo Stop Locks" on ebay that can turn your guitar to dive only. Once those are fitted and adjusted you can lock your tremolo to only go down, as if it was resting on the body. That way you can use a D-Tuna no problem.
Black box stabilizer and tone vise pitch shifter
Thank you for the tutorial , I have and EVH Wolfgang signature,absolutely love it .But I’ve notice when I have the D Tuna out it seems loose and it rattles on certain notes, what should I do to remedy this ?
Thank you
I think you need higher gauge strings, or you need to play lighter
Use the shorter string lock screw that come with the d-tuna. This will make the spring tension in the d-tuna tighter so it holds it in place without rattling.
The problem with the D tuna is it DOESN'T WORK, with most floyde rose set ups. It was built for the Wolfgang guitar or a Kramer like Ed's. So basically it's marketing a product that only fits YOUR PRODUCT.
A more inclusive design would be like a hipshot on a bass where there's locking machine heads that release a full step when triggered.
When using the fine tune adjustments on the D-tuna with the Allen key, should the unit be pulled out or pushed in to make those adjustments?
Amazing videos as always!
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With the unit pulled out, you tune the guitar to drop D. Push the unit in then you set the low E strings tuner with a small allen key.
….and what do you do in normal use when the E goes out of tune? Do you have to get the Allen key out or use the fine tune on the Floyd Rose?
@@chrisstevens4680 You have to use the Allen key because you're not supposed to have the fine tuner in use with this thing - it's not practical and when you go to standard it will never be in tune. The people that rave about how great it is either aren't actually using it in standard, are out of tune and don't realize it, or have a trem lock - because a floating bridge can't stay tuned in both tunings at the same level of tension, it's physically impossible. Tightening a string a full step, pulls more tension on the springs, which loosen tension in all other strings. If you're tuned in drop D, it won't be in tune in standard, and if you tune it to standard, it won't be in tune in drop D (only the low E string can stay in tune in both tunings). It's a gimmick, not really worth it.
@@chrisstevens4680 You have to use the allen key. With the D-tuna installed, you should never use the fine tuner on the bridge on the low E string anymore.
@@nvlddmkm1282 That's correct. It only works if you have the bridge fully blocked or at least blocked so it can dive only, not pull up. The bridge can't be free-floating. It says this in the D-tuna install instructions that come with it.
Does it smells like tuna?
Obviously! Hmm good old tuna sandwich...
//Kris
Hello. this might be a long shot, but I was wondering if you could please do a video on how to play Fuyu No Hanashi from given.
So what would happen if you put one on every string
D-tuner for bass :D
:D For that first you need a Floyd for bass to put this on... haha!
//cheers, Kris
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Oh, but there is a similar thing... Khaller Bass tremolo (interesting piece of gear, I wonder why I cannot find that at thomann's)... Combine that with a Hipshot extender :D
The inherent floating trem design, makes it so this will never stay in tune in either standard or drop - because like was mentioned, it affects the string tension which raises/lowers the tension in the other strings each time you flip it. The only way to keep it in tune is to trem lock (which kinda defeats the purpose). These things are more trouble than they're worth imo.
So it’s pointless? The advantage of a Floyd is that it’s floating but with this it has to be pulled against the body all the time. so it’s dive only so you might as well have a regular trem.
Well, just partially. You still have the benefits of using a Floyd if it sits on the body. You have the sound and the tuning stability compared to a vintage tremolo.
And one huge plus: if you break a string with a Floyd like that, the other strings don't go totally out of tune so you can finish up the song. That actually saved a number of gigs in my life. haha
//cheers, Kris
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If i ever get a frankie i will remove it
That sounds like a nightmare.
If you ever feel useless, remember that the D-Tuna exists.
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What a scam the d-tuna! It sounds the same to me!
I tuned my floyd rose to drop A. I’ve found you don’t need a baritone if you have a floyd rose as long as you know how to adjust it correctly.
Drop A? Holy moly. What string gauge did you use? :) Good job, man!
//cheers, Kris
that's exactly what i want to try. I use B standard tuning and sometimes need drop tuning
@@lsmaelsinbarba8152 I use B standard on my Jackson dk3. I use 12 gauge Ernie ball mammoth slinky's
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses People say stuff like this but their intonation is completely out and they can't tell, so take this guy's comment with a grain of salt...
@@petesorensenguitar who's "people"? Why would you just assume his intonation is off?
Thanks for this! I just bought a Kramer Baretta and it came installed on the Floyd Rose..This video made it easy to tune..Thanks again!
Can you fine tune it to D and then push it back in and fine tune back to E or do you need to do it with the machine heads and undo the locking nuts?
Have an EVH wolfgang special stealth with d-tuna... As soon as I go from D to E all other strings go flat... Even if use only fine tuner to drop or raise the pitch, other strings goes flat/sharp. I have a lot of frustration with it, it is easier to retune all strings.
So, d-tuna kinda work, for listener, but not for experienced player... Or if your don't care/can't hear it.
I mean that's just how string tension works. When adding tension to one string, the neck bends in slightly making the rest go flat. A good trick would be to tune slightly sharp in Standard or slightly flat in drop D and then you're out less on either end.
I think the part you may have missed is that you need to block the bridge so that it's either fully blocked or so that you can push bar down but you can't pull up on it. If you leave the bridge free floating, any change in string tension, such using the d-tuna, will cause the other strings to go out of tune.
Just did my 1st string change on my Suhr strat with a Gotah Floyd and d tuner and couldn't get the e to go back. to e. Now I know why. The little Allen key on the side of the push pull is a fine tuner too. Thank you!
Hmm with a club beat there...No outtakes.. once once once once🤔 ... One of those would be cool but would kill an excuse for more guitars. My Schecter B2FR is always tuned to drop D, RG to D standard, etc. 🤣😂🤣
Would love to try this but my Floyd bridge floats. I would have thought Ed played with a floating bridge too.
My guitar got stolen, but that was fun
Sorry to hear that brother
Thank you! This is exactly what I needed
...you are afucking badass! bless you for this!.....
Thank you for the tips, works perfect now!
just got the frankie. The D tuna seems difficult to pull out. Is that normal when it is brand new. Thx
Question. The screw that is adjusted with the small Allen key. Just as you have a default for the fine tuner with the d-tuna what is the default for the screw you adjust with the Allen key when you start to tune the low E?
Enjoying mine but still fiddling with the tuning as it doesn’t want to stay perfectly in tune in either one of the standard or drop if I tune one perfectly.
I think it would be good to mention where the little Allen screw should sit starting out, where if it’s in too far, you won’t be able to pop the tuna inward.
Had a similar issue with mine. I had the fine tuner halfway down couldn’t remember why. Took it up and the dtuna worked perfectly just had to dial in the fine tuner on the side. 2018 USA EVH Signature Model (white). Awesome guitar.
I'm having the same issue with my wolfgang
0:54 a coin will do
Are you able to drop tune all the strings or is it just one?
Just the E
Does the up whammy really work?
Will the d tuna work with a gibson les paul axcess? Thanks
I have an ibanez pia ! It works with It ?
Thanks for this! I have the problem that even after following the instructions exactly, my "E" ends up way too sharp, with the drop "D" being in tune, the fine tuner on the bridge all the way up, and the fine tuner on the D-Tuna also all the way up and away from the screw. I can make the switch work only by adjusting the tuner on the bridge a little. What am I doing wrong? Any help would be appreciated.
Exactly! I have the same issue! There's gotta be a fix.
You have to undo the 3 screws at the nut .. then do this process you’ll be good to go 🤘
Same issue
What size of Allen wrench did he use?
3:37 shirt looks like it says “Diarrhea”
I like how Floyd rose always has a catch. You can do this BUT! Why you so sassy Floyd rose?
What if they are routed? How can I make it work
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you know i wonder if you drilled a hole on the opposite side and threaded it would that be the fix for lefties for the fine tuner?
Where can I buy the separete EVH-D-TUNA?
At Thomann for example. Just not right now. It's been heavily sold out so you can't find it in the web store. This will change though as soon as Allparts can ship enough of them.
//cheers, Kris
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Thanx..!👍
Question; I have a Jackson Dinky Js32. I have purchased a Drop D tuna for that guitar, would it work on this particular Jackson?
I can only get mine to go from D to Eb whatever I try. The Floyd Rose is blocked so it dives only. I just don’t trust it at all. 🤔🤘
I'm headed up to DUH Studio to set mine up right now. Thank you for this video!!!
Why do people still say "tremolo" when they mean "Vibrato"? I just don't get it..
Does this fit 1:1 for Ibanez Edge or Gotoh 1996 trems?
1:32 the d tuna also works on the neck
I need a tuner like his
I just bought a Jackson dinky from 1989 and it has Schaller tremolo licensed under Floyd Rose and this tremolo has shortened screws. Is there a solution to that type of tremolo?
I have an N4 with Schaller tremolo. My D-tuna came with a couple of different length string locking screws to account for this scenario.
NGL this was one of the most unpleasant Distortion sounds I ever heard xD
You have to complain at Yamaha then. haha! I mean it's the THR which is a practicing amp and we recorded the line out sound (not mic'd sound). For that, it's actually pretty good imo.
//cheers, Kris
I've heard way worse. It has clarity due to the highs but yeah you could get a better sound out of whatever unit they used (you almost always can).