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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
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Is modest hottest? Not that we're over here trying to be hot or anything. But join us today for a discussion that we've been putting off for a while. We hope you find encouragment from this chat as we talk about navigating modesty in ourselves, with our children, and why we really weren't all to keen on having this discussion in the first place. We end with a bunch of practical ways to take the clothes you already have and reinvent them into new, fresh,-- and yes, MODEST looks. Hope you enjoy.
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8:15 Let's talk about modesty-- if we must
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I was raised in a church that put all the responsibility on women (and little girls) to not cause boys and men to stumble. I wore long jean skirts for years. After my parents left that church, we started wearing pants. I became ‘tomboyish’ in middle school and refused to wear any dresses or skirts for years. From all of that, I learned that modesty is a heart posture. I may have been wearing a ‘modest outfit’, but I felt holier than anyone who wasn’t as modest. Now as an adult, and a mother to a daughter and 2 sons, I enjoy dressing femininely and modestly! I want to be a role model to them. I also really like what you said, Megan- a lot of people weren’t taught modesty and God still loves them. I don’t want to teach my kids to look down on those who are different. Thanks for braving this conversation, ladies! It was a great one. ❤️
Having lived in several different countries and cultures, I have come to the understanding that clothing is a language - it communicates something to those who see us, whether we intend that or not. For those who believe in the Lord Jesus and follow his word, I think it is really important that we consider what message our choice of dress, hairstyle, etc, send to those around us. They can’t see our heart, only the external. Whatever earthly culture we find ourselves in, for born again Christians, who now belong to a heavenly country, we should seek for our external appearance to reflect that inward reality. 1 Thes 5:22 “Abstain from all appearance of evil.”
I love how charitable you two are in your approach on this! I’m Catholic and I see two camps in regards to modesty; those who care too much and those who don’t care at all. The approach I take is to simply avoid drawing inappropriate attention to myself and leave it there. For me, that also means I have to be comfortable and not worried about how I move or look.
I'm also Catholic and I see I this way too 😊
The way I teach my kids is we're not to wear things for the purpose of drawing attention to ourselves. So that would include lavish and provocative clothing and accessories.
Well done ladies! I love how you acknowledge that modesty looks different for many people, and that the important thing is that you are intentional in how you chose to outwardly exhibit your inward testimony/conviction. How we each decide to interpret modesty is a very personal choice. Also love how you acknowledge that it’s not a woman’s job to prevent men from sinning. We chose to dress in a way that makes us feel comfortable before God, while respecting others’ agency to dress in a manner they chose without judgement. Thank you for being willing to get in the trenches with the weightier topics and to treat topics like this with such a respectful and loving hand.
Great video girls. I am Catholic and was raised Catholic back in the 60's and 70's. My parents were very conservative people. We grew up in a very modest household. I have 1 brother and 3 sisters. My mother was a very modest person and I am so thankful for that. We were taught by nuns who of course wore an entire habit. At the Catholic schools I attended, we had strict dress codes regarding the length of our skirts, etc. I continue to be very modest. Thankfully our 2 sons are raising their daughters to be modest and are aware of styles that favor being conservative. It is an uphill battle in these modern times but we can be persistent in our beliefs. Thank you for sharing!
Let’s remember clothing is also very cultural- Indian women wear ‘pyjama’ trousers with a long tunic over it. Tbh more modest than the form-fitting t-shirts you guys are wearing which cling very closely to your bust area!
You don’t know much about Indian woman because only some of them dress like that. Some of them are forced to dress like that by the men.
I love watching you ladies together and look forward to Megan’s videos every Thursday. When my husband comes in and I’m doing the dishes or folding laundry and the tv is on RUclips he says “oh, folding laundry with Megan again “ 😅
Jayna please start your own channel! (Of course keep doing this one together please) Your personality is so calm and real. I feel like your honesty about things in life is just so refreshing and not twisted to appease others. We need more content like this❤❤❤
While women should dress modestly (ie: decent), those passages read refer to modesty in the sense of not flaunting one's wealth when meeting together (church). Take a look at the exegetical and cultural context in the book Nobody's Mother, written by a seminary professor at Dallas Theological Seminary. It's very helpful in interpreting those verses!
Great topic, ladies!
I love hearing from women who dress like me too!
Im a Pentecostal & it shocks me to see people (mostly online) attack women like us, saying we are "manipulated", "in a cult" blah blah blah.
I dress this way, no jewelry, uncut hair, skirts past my knees & long sleeves, high neckline, no makeup, to please my God, He MAY not require all that, but id rather be just a little more careful in trying to please Him, than seeing how much i can get away with & still be saved, we DONT know a certain one attire, so we are simply careful and take the Bible for what it is, modesty is commanded, so thats simple, the only women who painted their face in the Bible were wicked women, corinthians says long hair, etc.
and as for the pants situation, if i cant look at you & immediately tell your gender, then that speaks for itself.
Our culture has made this whole "live your truth" movement & its so harmful.
I love dressing this way, i feel stylish & have fun choosing becoming, feminine outfits, I am one of Gods daughters. I want others to know it without a doubt!
Not very sensible reasoning there - clothing is cultural (plenty of cultures out women in trousers) and you could easily think a man in a dress is a woman!
I like Megan bit those tight t-shirts she wears aren’t exactly ‘modest’ - really cling to her bust area!
I feel like modesty can look different for each individual. I think you just have to follow the convictions God gives each of us individually. Modesty is really a heart issue. You can wear a skirt that we would call "modest" but with a heart wanting male attention or wear pants without trying to draw attention. We really just each need to ask ourselves the why behind why we are wearing what we wear.
❤ yes! Thanks for watching!
There are certain things we can all agree are inherently immodest. Bikinis are a prime example
@@jaynaburkholder1507I just don’t think the church you attend should dictate what you wear. You can wear a dress to church and not have to conform to a certain style, be it a cape dress or a denim skirt. I know you don’t like the word legalism but essentially that’s what you are a part of. All of these man made rules are exactly that.
The rules are only legalism if you are thinking doing them gets you to Heaven. Having standards is not legalism. And maybe a church’s stance on something is the same as an individual’s. That doesn’t mean the church is telling them what to do. If both have standards aligned with the Word of God, that is the way it’s supposed to be. :)
A church is a blessing. In every area of life you gain perspective through conversations and the ability to please the Lord better. I like having sisters that encourage me in holy lifestyle.
Thanks for covering(pun intended) this topic! Especially the point about sex not being the main focus or determining factor in biblical modesty. I despise that teaching that women can victimize men by causing the men to lust just by existing. Yes there is a line where you could be exposing yourself and being inappropriate but if a woman is dressed reasonably, it's not her responsibility to protect men from their reactions to her. There is a distinction between immodesty and sensuality. They can overlap but modesty is about how we present ourselves before God inside and out, and like you ladies said: aligning our outward expression with the inner posture of the heart.
Cheers for being modest, feminine, beautiful, and celebrating how God made us!
Love this! Thanks for watching! ❤
My beef with the whole modesty thing is the whole notion that we are causing boys to sin. It’s not causation. It teaches that modesty is up to women and its the woman’s fault solely so that when women are assaulted they automatically assume its their fault. Thats a terrible thing to teach our families, in my opinion anyway. It perpetuates the patriarchy.
Your beef is also my beef! ❤ that notion isn't fair to the boys or the girls! thanks for being here.
This is my beef, too. I also hate the notion that “skirts = feminine”.
I totally agree. It's like, protect the man, he's so weak and if he does slip, blame it on a woman....
I wish more Christian sects like the Mennonites put more emphasis on Matthew 18:9. Teaching that the weight of keeping boys/men from sinning is put on girls/women is toxic.
Agreeeeeed!!!
And then on the flip side when we DO dress modestly, they ASSUME our husbands MAKE us dress in this fashion.
As if to say, " if you dress modest, you are beaten down and retracting feminism," when IN FACT.... I am always treated soooo RESPECTFULLY when I dress modestly, by men AND women alike.
I am a
Mother of three adult sons and I think conversations about women and how to view them is very important. Also sons look to their mothers to see how we present ourselves. I don’t have daughters but I always speak to young women about what their value is as a person 💕
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I was thinking about this as well!
Also great video! We have raised our family with “standards” we like to call them fences….the Bible says, out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks…. As a man thinks in his heart, so is he……love your neighbor and the greatest of these is love. That being said, WELL DONE LADIES!!! ❤
Well handled ladies!!!! A “touchy” topic. Handled with Grace and Love. Thank you. ❤🙏🏻 Exactly what I’ve come to expect from you both! God Bless!!!!
"Culture is irrelevant to the true meaning of the Gospel" - Amen sister !
Ladies, well done ❤ You addressed this with such grace and wisdom, and I loved how you pointed out that while modesty with our dress is an important part of the discussion, those Scripture verses and the concept of modesty in general apply to other aspects of our lives as well. The heart is the main issue for sure, and if your heart is to live humbly and modestly before the Lord all areas will begin to reflect that. I'm so grateful for His continual consecration. The evidence of the Lord in your lives is so clear through the caution and wisdom you speak with. ❤
Another girl from Czechia (Czech Republic) here! Just wanted to clarify that we're no longer Czechoslovakia, it's been more than 30 years. But anyway, it's still quite surprising and nice to hear your small country's name and someone from another continent to actually recognise it/heard if it 😊
Americans are pretty bad at geography and you'd expect even less from communities such as Mennonites, where knowledge isn't really pursued unless it's about a Jewish mythology.
Thanks for educating us and for watching from afar!
Ahoj! I lived in Praha for two years as a teen. Love your country so much! Wish I could go back, maybe someday.
Czech Republic is not that small compared to other countries ;) greetings from Vilnius, Lithuania :)
It’s so interesting to see who is watch from where… ❤ I am from Ukraine and when I studied in USA (in Cincinnati, at God’s Bible School and College “) many didn’t know where Ukraine was or that it wasn’t a part of Russia anymore (for almost 30 years)
But it’s ok, I don’t know much about other countries as well
As always, I enjoyed this podcast! The grocery store I shop at, and it has been this way, since I was a child, always has “carry out” for everyone.
The employee bags your groceries then loads them on a special wheeled cart to take them to your car.
Employees are not supposed to take tips but it’s nice if you slip a dollar
Jayna I feel you have totalled nailed the art of modestly dressing whilst still looking incredible.
Good morning. You both did a great job talking about modesty. We do need more of it. I am a modest dresser now and cover. It was god who convicted me. Blessings to you both.
Thanks for talking about this! I was raised to dress modestly-- my parents helped me understand the "whys" without overdoing it. So grateful for all the parents/leaders who teach modesty in a godly and beneficial way! Modesty isn't just about our interactions with men, but that certainly is important (men's minds are so different from ours). The guys are accountable for how they think, and the girls are accountable for how they present themselves. I love Jayna's quote: "Your godly, pure heart should be reflected by what you put on your body."
You both handled the topic of modesty very well. Thank you for that. I had to smile when you said that when attending high school, "Boy, were you taught" . Although I do think the issue of modesty needs to be addressed, it should be in moderation. As an older woman I have observed that when men, whether teachers, preachers, or principals, put a big emphasis on modesty, they often have an issue with lust themselves. Instead of dealing with their lust issue, it is easier to blame the women's dress for their problem. They really push the modesty issue, because they think that every other man must have a lust problem, like they do.
I just love y’all!! Agree with your viewpoints. It’s so hard to raise kids and push for modesty with everything in front of them. I love the different ways yall show how to be cute and modest at the same time. 😊
This was actually a very refreshing conversation. It comes down to a matter of the heart, as do most Christian issues. Why am I dressing the way I am? Does it honour God and my body?
Thanks for sharing ❤
Love your response!
I like what Paul Washer had to say about modesty (I’m paraphrasing) You can see a woman and admire her beauty, in the way you might appreciate a flower. You can also see a woman and feel like you need to look away from her because of the way she is dressed. That’s a good guideline for me. I agree with others who said that ultimately, modesty is a heart posture. A person can dress conservatively, but if their heart is not in the right place, then that’s a problem.
No matter what you wear… you are not responsible for another person’s thoughts about your body.
I loved to hear you talk about this topic. I think it's quite a challenge to teach children not to judge people on the one hand, but on the other hand to also teach them not to do what they see some people do.
I have some questions for both of you:
- How would you react if your daughter asked you if she could wear pants on some occasions?
- Was there ever a time when you weren't happy with the dress code of your school/church and would have liked to wear shorter skirts, pants, shorts, etc.? Did you ever try it?
As you said there is nothing wrong with wanting to look beautiful .. creation shows that beauty is a gift from God. After Job had gone through all he went through God blessed Job with 7 more sons and 3 more daughters and the Bible says "No women in all the land were as beautiful as Job's daughters".
Beauty is important to God! ❤
Ladies. Let us not be ashamed to be modest. It’s ok to encourage other women to cover their bodies no matter who they are. Let your bodies be for your husband and him only. ❤
Thanks ladies, I think this is a really important conversation for our day. I think to Jayna’s note, it’s really really important to explain the whys behind what we believe and why we do what we do. Otherwise, you don’t help propel the behavior or morals that you want to in future generations, and it will either create a scrupulosity or total rebellion. Both are bad for the soul. I would say that regarding the Bible and modesty, I think it touches everything. It’s not just about clothing, finances, how yih appear, but even about what you say and how you say it and your motivations behind it all. It really is a deep issue that is not as superficial as what you wear each day. It goes deep to the soul, what are your motivations for what you’re wearing? Wear do you want people to be looking when they look at you? Right? We have to ask ourselves these questions and be honest about it. To reiterate, it goes the same for what you spend your money on, or the types of things you reveal about yourself in conversation. I think as far as what we see in public and how to discuss with children, we often say something like, “Not everyone is a Christian, not everyone loves God and we can’t expect them to have the same morals and standards as we do. But we can pray for them.”
The church I go to is a pretty traditional reformed church. Though I've never heard modesty expressly preached, I've noticed that all the people are modest and do dress modestly (I think modesty is both a disposition and a manner of dress). I do believe that it becomes the natural outward expression of a believer to want to dress in a God-honoring (and not human pleasing or attention seeking) way. I love topics like this, especially since you were raised in this tradition. You have a unique perspective and really great practical tips on how to dress this way without looking drab. Keep it coming!
Megan, oh my goodness, your story at the end made me smile! That can explain why you have 4 children!!! I'm just kidding with you! I loved this video so much; I'm going to watch it again. Love you guys!
You know, woman can also look at men, those without shirts and have muscle or on tiny bathing suits, etc. so men need to also be somewhat modest 😊
both sexes need to dress modestly.... as both can be tempted.....
I always look forward to your podcasts! 🫶
I always wear long dresses and skirts mainly because I don’t like my legs and my upper arms. I go to the local Anglican Church and the members wear what ever they want. Most of the young girls wear jeans and a tee shirt or some girls wear dresses to their knees, Most of the young guys wear jeans Or long shorts that go below the knee We have a mixture of ages in our morning service and most wear jeans knee length dresses or tee shirts. The fact is even if I could wear the latest styles I wouldn’t. I am not a suze 8 I am a size 22 in Australia not sure what that is in American size. I don’t wear pants because they don’t suit me and I sweat to much!!!!! Keep the videos coming luv from Australia
hey y'all- this was oh so good! 😀😉Thank you for sharing the truth and great tips. Love y'all🥰
I appreciate you being vulnerable about modesty! And I love what you say about it! It’s super easy to demonize other women, especially with sons, but I so love how you teach your boys and I’ve also implement it with my 3 sons
I am so impressed with your perspective on your approach to teaching your sons . Great job ladies .
As someone who used to dress absolutely not modest whatsoever; I completely agree with Megan about her intentions because they absolutely made a difference for me (aside from becoming saved/learning about modesty through the Bible;ECT.) but she definitely made it more normalized and obtainable for me. So I really appreciate it because it is tough going from the worlds view to trying to be modest and know how to style yourself or work with what you have or what is put out there.
I can understand the tough topic and wanting to avoid it but I think you guys dipped your toes in well.
It's good to normalize the conversation and may help someone.
Loved it, ladies. You handled this conversation with grace!
Very well put ladies! So glad you read the bible verses about modesty Jayna! I wish more churches would put more emphasis on modesty and teach these scriptures.
Megan, you have definitely helped me with some of your modest clothing ideas. I am a modern christian. I will admittedly wear short shorts and crop tops sometimes, but other times I want to look more modest. Depends on my mood! But your styling outfits in a modest way gives me awesome inspiration on being fashionable in a God honoring way.❤
This is one of the reasons I follow your channel: to get to know how other people think! As someone from a totally different upbringing (secular Swede) and practitioner of a totally different faith (paganism) I'm probably as far away from you as possible when it comes to these questions, but it's still interesting and fascinating to learn about other views.
in my day to day life I probably come quite close to your version of modesty (except for wearing trousers, of course) because that's what I feel comfortable in. But in the correct setting, I'm really comfortable being naked (yes, even in mixed company). For me, it all depends on the situation. If I go to a church I'll cover up, on the beach I'll wear a bikini.
Love when you two girls share! Its like having a chat with friends. I'm sure we could be good IRL friends if PA wasn't so far from AZ 🤪.
Personally, I feel more comfortable dressing modestly. And yes, we do have to be careful not to judge others. Great discussion! 💜
I grew up attending a United church until I was about 8 years old, and I’ve struggled throughout the rest of my life to have a meaningful relationship with God. I’m not sure what I believe in now (I’m 31). However I love your videos; the podcast, your DITL, homemaking stuff, hearing about your experiences as a Mennonite. It somehow adds a little bit of lacking spirituality into my life and I really enjoy that! Thanks 😊
Your welcome to be here. I hope you keep searching. Have an awesome Monday🧡
@lauradoran I suggest you start reading the gospel of John, but really start by praying for God's direction and that He would make Himself known in your life, and draw you closer.
You two did an awesome job on this topic!❤
Thank you for this topic. When I was younger I wanted to dress to attract. As I've aged I can understand the important of modesty. It's also a respect of your own body.
I’m fascinated by the Mennonite culture. One of the things I’ve never understood is why is it so important for the females to dress modestly, but the males can walk around in shorts? Is not both male and female bodies temples?
I've never know Mennonite guys to wear shorts unless they've changed currently
@@cindywright2643 I’m pretty sure I’ve seen Megan’s husband wear them as well as Lynette Yoders.
There are many different variety of mennonites. The more conservative ones, the men wouldn't wear shorts or tanks. The liberal ones like Megan and lynette the men wear whatever. Those are also the women thay wear makeup and very tight fitting clothing...one foot in the world but still trying to keep the heaven door open
Guys in shorts isn't any different then girls in knee length skirts IMO.
Shorts on men is not immodest in my opinion, women's clothing is so much more a deal because men are so visually attracted. Ive never heard women say, "oh his hairy legs are so sexy". That's my views. ;)
Great topic! One of the things I struggle with is trying to put together outfits that don’t look frumpy. Even though I am cradle Eastern Orthodox, my parents never really had strict guidelines on how I should or shouldn’t dress. So I’m still getting used to putting together dress and skirt outfits. Now that I’m older and married with children, I dress in dresses and skirts. However, even if I wasn’t married and didn’t have kids, I would still want to dress classy and feminine.
Sometime ago God share with me that the motivation of modesty is love. We are called to love one another. For some women, it an exposed body part can be a stumbling block because they have a past and for other women it can be a stumbling block because they desire a different body type(not accepting how God made them) And of course it can be a stumbling block for our brothers in Christ too. So because of my love for God And those around me, I choose to not reveal parts that might make someone stumble. When he told me it was all about love it just made sense.
Recently went to the lake for picnic and ended up feeling a bit uncomfortable as no matter which direction we looked there were young women, some very young teens and girls in g string (thong) bathing suits. My husband ended up saying let’s go as he didn’t want anyone to think he was looking inappropriately, I felt the same. Made me sad for these young girls particularly that their parents allowed them to dress this way. Different when an adult you do what you like. Might be ok when swimming but bending over and doing things at a picnic, playground on shore is a different matter. I’m all for freedom of dress as a woman but protect your kids.
What a wonderful video - I dress modest - and yes - I feel sometimes that I don’t fit or fit in - in the world - People do look at me - sometimes - or am I just feeling self aware - I guess some of both - anyway - it is hard in this world - great video - I’m going to share with my Bible study group - Thank both of You - for sharing - Blessings
Thabks so much for such a wonderful topic. I've made a bigbswitch with my clothing when Ingot married 13 years ago. I'm mkaing another switch now that my heart is changing and my brain is learning.
Your modesty content is one of the things that kept me at your channel. Thank you!
I think modesty is only a hot button topic for people who are either feeling convicted of their choices and/or are not confident in their own choices. You ladies covered this topic well. Being a Christian drives my choices regarding clothing (and every other area of my life) but honestly, I think there is a place for modesty no matter your faith. I choose to honor the Lord with my actions and words but it is also honoring myself. I’m not Mennonite and I do wear pants but my parents also raised me to cover myself. I still very vividly remember a time when my dad walked passed me as I was doing my hair, so my hands were up, and he saw that my stomach showed when doing that and he made me change. I was frustrated in that moment but boy am I grateful that he cared enough to do that. He taught me that not all attention was good attention and to value myself. ❤ GREAT TOPIC!! 💜
Very good discussion! I think the problem comes when the whole burden is on women to not lead a brother to sin, rather than teaching young men to respect their female peers with dignity and respect. Modesty is, as you said, a matter of the heart, and you can dress attractively and still be modest. We don’t need to look like old ladies! ( even if we are!)
I loved your discussion!
So considerate and well-rounded...:)
At our mcc they take even ripped t shirt and adult ripped jeans. Jeans get used for blankets and old t shirts get sold cut up as rags that people buy by the box to use in shops to wipe oily hands and wipe up messes spilled oil and so on
I love you all! I love what you guys have to say about the truth of God’s Word and His reality and ways we can actually live our lives for His glory!!! I truly learned about modesty when I learned about God’s AMAZING, passionate, and jealous love for us and the amazing sacrifice Jesus made because of His unconditional LOVE for us. I also learned a lot about this from hearing a man named Todd White speak and I actually just saw he is coming to Lancaster, PA soon! You would NOT regret going to one of the events he hosts or checking him out on RUclips! But I know from my own experience that you can be radically transformed by the evidence of the burning, passionate love of Jesus Christ and the reality of the life we have in Him, at one of these event, and just by learning how God truly sees us and what He says about us and to us in His amazing Word. I love you guys and thank you so much for helping bringing that same truth myself and to so many others and committing such precious hours of your lives to being such Godly inspiration to so many!!! I love you all!
Love, ❤️Jayne
I work with young adults and dressing modestly allows me and them to focus more on work than me or what I am wearing. Sometimes they will still bring up that I wear “prairie dresses” or whatever but I have experienced fewer awkward situations (like 18 year olds asking for my number 😬) since I started wearing dresses and long skirts. I didn’t dress immodestly before but there has been a marked difference going from jeans and dress pants to long skirts.
Such a great point about celebrating femininity! In a culture where being a girl is despised, let's celebrate! Dressing fun/pretty can help girls enjoy being girls.
So I don’t follow the same faith that you all do but I dress very modestly because that is what I am comfortable in. One of the things that I think the Bible talks about especially for men is to be aware of your immodest thoughts about women. I feel like a lot of people who consider themselves religious lay a lot of the blame on women and what clothing they wear when really the responsibility of the person and their thoughts.
I grew up Catholic and modest was never talked about it . I recently started going to a different church and they dress modestly. I am now dressing modestly and I am teaching my daughter
PS: I love the spring-like flowy skirts you (both of you) are wearing; they look so comfortable and pretty! :)
I am not religious at all, but I am culturally Jewish. When I got to college, a lot of my Jewish peers assumed that I was Orthodox just because I dress in a relatively modest way. I’ve always dressed with simple colors, high neck lines, non-tight and well tailored clothing, and simply in a way that shows my respect for myself and encourages other people to see me as mature and respectable. Most of all, it makes me feel confident and put together! I appreciated your thoughts on this topic, even though they come from a very different perspective than mine.
Excellent video, girls!! Love your hearts! ❤
Great discussion today😀❤️👍
I just noticed! The Voetburg family with Voetburg music academy live in the same area we do.😊
I’m Catholic and we have been taught to choose completely modest clothing and cover our heads with mantilla in Church. We were never used to wearing even a mini skirt or anything short or sleeveless as far as I can remember. We girls are taught to wear clothes that are not form fitting, not sleeveless and nothing less than knee lengths. But yes we do wear pants but mostly not to Church and we prefer mostly dresses and feminine clothes. And men wear only formals to Church. This is what I’ve seen unless they are non practising Catholics or those who left I guess like how you mentioned about the Amish. And our education is centered around Christ in Catholic schools and we have strict dress codes monitored by nuns and taught from a very young age why we should be modest in a Christian way. And this applied to both boys and girls. And Inherit is nice.
Spot on!! Thank you!
Loved this episode! Please do a part 2.
One thing not explained often is the difference on a man's heart when he sees a woman in immodest clothing, as compared to a woman. He will react differently and must withdraw from the temptation. A woman usually, if raised, or taught modestly in all aspects doesn't have the same reaction. Natural response is reserved for marriage between a husband and wife. When a woman leaves her home she dresses to help men avoid sin. It's actually charity on her part. I am not going to address the whole "it's not her fault if a man is inappropriate" issue. We know this. People who are not raised to respect their and others bodies, are not going to understand. I agree.
It is not my job to help men avoid sin. It’s not why I dress modestly.
naw, men lust after whatever they want, women could be covered in a loose sheet and they would lust. Clothing means NOTHING. Its a heart issue for the men.
Clothing really doesn't mean nothing
Amen Janna! We can take God's Word as is.
The Aldi in our area pays very competitive wages, so I’m not sure if Giant would pay her more. But I also have never heard of Giant before, who knows!
Very wise approach to the content... 👏👏
I love these talks so much ladies I always look forward to them.
I usually try think about what my motivation is. Am I dressing a certain way so that eyes will be on me when I walk in the room? Or am I dressing nice so that I can give God my best? I can even wear the exact same outfit, but have two different motivations.
Great conversation!
I missed the “Dear Abby” section you guys have been doing, I looked forward to hearing it in this episode but I don’t think it was included! Hopefully next time 😊
Modesty is only possible without profit ruling everything... Money has it's uses but it is the theory of MORE MONEY which has ruined us... it drives people to extremes and modesty requires the middle of the road...
totally understand why you don’t want to talk about modesty, you girls are doing great, keep it up
Thank you for sharing it was nice to hear from woman dress like me .
Appreciate the conversation ❤
Also a thought about teaching children... you can tell them to dress with dignity and grace and to represent Christ before even diving into the sexual aspect. I like how you emphasized talking to parents, not friends.
I think it’s valid to say we do judge on outward appearances and that’s why God calls us to dress modestly. We are to reflect dignity and grace and I think if you are not dressed appropriately you aren’t doing that.
I also think relating modesty to things like wearing a $1000 suit is related to prudence. Is it prudent to buy expensive clothing or is it prudent to spend an hour on your looks every day?
I really feel like all of this is common sense and people will try in any way to justify why they do or don’t do something whether or not they are right.
Well done ladies.
You girls are wonderful faith filled Christian’s bless you both ❤❤❤❤
I enjoyed this. Megan, and Jayna, please film modest jewelry and makeup.
GASP thats a great idea Megan, next time my husband is complaining a bit too much thats what ill do!😂
Great discussion
I am in complete agreement that women should dress modestly. But I don’t believe that always means wearing a skirt or a dress. I have no problem with women who do that, but I also don’t believe it’s completely necessary. The whole yoga pants in public trend is obviously, not anyone’s idea of modesty, but I do think pants can be modest. I raised five daughters and teaching them about modesty was not easy. I also raised three sons, and teaching them to respect women was a top priority. This is a difficult topic, especially in today’s world, and I think you ladies handled it very well. Also, as a small sidenote, men also have a responsibility to dress modestly.
The wearing of skirts is more of a cultural thing and an endeavor to appear clearly feminine. I totally respect your stance too.
@@HoneyImHomemaker it’s funny, I LOVE wearing skirts, and dresses, and do so quite often. They do make me feel more feminine ♥️
Its so painful to even listen, i was raised amish, sexually assaulted and blamed for it. I hate even bathing my kids because i hate seeing bare skin. My husband is so helpful and steps in. But im definitely healing from it. I personally wear jeans, leggings ect. But dont show a lot of skin. I feel that any church that has rules enforcement is wrong. It just perpetrates abuse. Imo at least. I'm letting my kids choose thier own clothes everyday, letting my kids wear anything. I definitely don't want to have my kids be so self conscious about thier bodies.
This goes to show that modesty has nothing to do with clothing. "Modest" people wouldn't abuse, it has nothing to do with the "godliness" of a person. Thanks for sharing something so vulnerable.
Thanks for sharing your story. And i am so sorry for your terrible experience. We did touch on this. Modesty unfortunately doesn't protect anyone from people intent on hurting others.
I’m not Amish but we living in Wisconsin right in the middle of an Amish community. Last year a man was arrested for assaulting his 3 daughters. In the police report his wife stated that then person who reported this sinned worse than the one committing the sin. I was shocked! How can a mother, not want to protect her child. How can she think it’s a sin to stop abuse? A mandatory reported filed this with the police; more than likely the local Mennonite doctor who saw their oldest, 16 year old daughter. Because of the abuse in plain communities and their ability to “hide” from police our children have strict rules when playing on our land- they can not play alone and if they see anyone they must run home as fast as they can.
I am SO sorry you were abused as a child and I will pray for your healing; Jesus loves you and NEVER approves of abuse. He is clear that anyone who hurts a little child will be better off havibg a milestone tied around his neck and be drowned in the sea.
@Organizedmeals yes, without Jesus I would not be alive today. As a daughter I forgive my mother but as a mother myself I will never understand. I'm glad you have rules to protect your children. We moved 2000 miles and cut off contact to protect our children from our own flesh and blood 🥲
You did very well , common sense advice .
Thank you
I think from me growing up knowing what I knew then when we switch to public school people was asking like why I was dress weird was the first time I ever notice anything out of place then people convince me to dress different like there was actually peer pressure to look and follow the worldly trend then in college where I was able to get into religious education and really read the Bible there so much scripture that specifically points out modesty and not to look like a jezebel to f the Bible so now I feel like being modest and people looking at me strangely I just feel like I’m modeling and encouraging other to really look at the Bible or think about their self respect because coming from what I grew up with and counseling women and men there a lack of respect for their own bodies and they don’t realize by covering up or being modest means respecting yourself they are SO consume with the ideation that I have to look good because society says so… there a book from milestone for health for girls and boys about this particular subject ..
I’m a conservative Christian so our church has a mix of dress code
I’m a Christian but mot a Mennonite. I was interested to hear your view on bringing children to the beach. It’s something I’ve struggled with because I love the beach but am very uncomfortable with the immodesty. Of course little boys are not as affected in the same way as men are by almost naked people. But by bringing children to these environments is it not telling them it’s ok to put ourselves in situations where we may be heavily tempted? Thinking of places in the Bible which teach to abstain from things that would cause us to stumble, and setting no evil thing before our eyes.
If we aren’t ok with pornography exposure for our children, how is the beach much different?
I'm sorry but equating porn with going to the beach is just ridiculous. Teach your children not to stare and enjoy the beach as a family. If you're near people who aren't just out enjoying the beach like normal people you can always move to a different spot. Unbelievers are always going to be in public doing unbeliever things it's our job to have conversations and move our location when necessary when anywhere in public.
I love that a woman can be modest, but it doesn't mean she's a PRUDE either. Sometimes, leave something to the imagination.
We attend the church my husband grew up in. Years ago all the women worn long denim skirts most of the time. Times have changed and it’s mostly maxi skirts and modest dresses. A lot of them wear the leggings with the skirts in the winter. My husband absolutely hates that look. I like it and I’m warm. It’s an uphill battle here because I like to dress modest but he doesn’t like the look. 😢