Nice work guys! I work with vacuum and buchner's a lot, so there are a couple things I might offer. 1) The thing on the top held by the hair band really serves no purpose. In fact I might suggest it's counter productive because the vacuum under is working against a closed top. Leaving the top open is better for operation. 2) You might consider the ceramic funnel and put the hash on the ash-less qualitative filter and you don't have to wrestle with the glass frit. It would be easier and you can get larger flat surface area. 3) Concerning the "vapor trap," it's called a "cold trap." The primary use of a cold trap is to protect the pump from sucking vapor that will ruin the pump long term. What you mentioned about the risk of oil creeping through the lines into the beaker can be eliminated very easily. That will ONLY happen if you turn the pump off and the beaker is still under negative pressure, it can suck oil out of the case into the beaker. What you are running will most likely not have that positioning. To be careful and eliminate the risk 100% simply keep the pump running the whole time while it is hooked to the beaker and remove the hose from the port. It's impossible of oil to creep while vac is running or under ambient pressure.
Without the top you would have less negative pressure, the vacuum is going to take the path of least resistance…… the top with the tiny hole creates a vacuum chamber lowering your atmospheric pressure which is what you want to suck the fluid out faster and more efficient! Great info on the pump!!! I’ll have to check out the ceramic funnel . As for the ashless qualitative filters I’d be concerned with the material getting stuck I’d go with a 25 micron screen
The foil hampers operation. Negative pressure or vacuum is needed below the filter. The difference in pressure between atmospheric and the vac under the funnel is what pulls liquid through. Adding the foil reduces the atmospheric pressure above the filter. It DOESN'T increase it.
Read through a forum and found a useful tip, to protect your pump unplug the hose from the pump end while it is still running and allow some fresh air in to purge the moisture out of the pump. Otherwise the moisture will mix with the oil damaging your pump
I am about to build an adapter so use a vacuum cleaner and just the top meshed part of this hope it will worke I ordert for 39€ so I guess everyone have a vacuum cleaner at home
Great interview Shango! In the theme of keeping this low cost anyone wanting to try this should buy the glass and rent the vacuum pump if on a budget. In the USA large chain auto parts stores (think O'Rileys, auto zone, pep boys, etc) have loaner vacuum pumps for servicing a car's A/C. To "rent" they charge a credit card for the amount of the pump and as long as you return it by a set date you will get a 100% refund. Hope this helps someone! Stay irie everybody ✌️
They must love seeing the oil that comes back full of moisture. Ask for a set of guages and recovery tank too or they'll start to catch on what we're doing
Quick tip: I found most refrigerators condense from the top down so the bottom shelves for veggies sit at 25-35% humidity. I’ve dried hash the full way using this but now might add this method to quicken the process 🌱
Just before I collect the bubble hash off of the bubble bag, I hold a folded up paper towel on the bottom of the screen. That takes a ton of water out. I drop it onto my 25 mic screen that is sitting on a paper towel. Then in 1-3 minutes, I can shave it with a cold butter knife into tiny pieces. I love buying equipment though, so I may be trying this.
What press did you get brotha? I got nug smashed xp for 1400. It came leaking and not holding pressure. I returned it and got a 12 ton dabpress for half the price. I had no problem with this one.
I just wanted to say that you can purchase Food Grade Oil for the pump if your worried about petrochemicals being leached into the product. Thank you for your video.
Heck yeah buddy! Love the video! I was microplanning frozen hash pucks before this and was working up a nasty case of tennis elbow! Happy to report that this works great for me as well!
The buchner funnels I have, they go onto a conical flask that has a vacuum tube on the side of it. Ceramic funnel with holes in it, that you put filter papers on top of
ive done this with kief. i was making a tincture with it and i wanted to filter out the kief and this worked. kinda slow but it worked to give me all the liquid with no kief. i always wondered why ppl doing bubble never used this tech to filter out their water lol. i had a freeze dryer but damn the electricity was pricey since i also freeze dried food with it and for personals it was not worth it so i sold it and made some money on top.
I don't know about this set up, but for vac ovens, you use pumps with one way valves. when the vac is released, oil laden vapor can rush back into the oven and taint bho. A cheap ball valve can offer peace of mind to those concerned.
This is awesome! Freaking genius, I am absolutely doing this later this year. Only thing I can think to contribute is to use something else instead of a knife to make those cuts, reduce the surface area of the cutting tool to prevent loss. I’d use a straightened out paper clip, maybe some thread
All refrigerator compressors are vacuum pumps remove, crimp refrigerant line and you have a vacuum pump I have personally done this for other projects but never for Hash or any other Canabis related endeavors.
We don't recommend anything paper-based like funnel filter screen or coffee filters. The hash will often stick to it and peel off on the hash when you remove it. Like Ty says in the video, his best recommendation is a 37 micron rosin screen. Flawless. Happy hashing! 👍
@@ShangoLos You can cut the 25 micron nylon mesh to the same size as the funnel and lay it as a boundry. If it lays flat you will have better vac pull which will pull more water.
Tell Ty if he wants to market any aspect of this, he can make Büchner funnel shaped rosin screens. That creates the best vacuum seal, and currently people are required to cut their screens to fit
You have no idea how helpful this is to me. Covid took my taste of Mary j for me, now I can only enjoy terps thru hash or concentrates. I belive it was the covid changing my taste buds from the plant material. Now to process my flower I need to wash it in order to consume. I am very indebted to this info, thanks shango. Also can we talk to Gnome about his new photoperiod cultivars? Thanks for all the info.
I wanted a vacum pump anyway. I don't mind waiting for the product to dry but I usually do it in winter in a cool room. If anyone would explain why speedy drying is important , other than mold , please lmk.
They don't pull as deep of a vacuum, but look into oil-less diaphragm pumps, they are available relatively cheaply now, but you do get whht you pay for. I don't have an easy source of Dry Ice nearby to use in a cold trap and you will either use a lot of oil changing it after every use or kill the pump if you don't.
does the complete bottom of the funnel has to be covred with the micron sheet and the hash or is it ok if it sits just in the middle as a puddle? does the air has to be sucked through for pulling the water out or is it becouse of the vacuum?
@@HorseCuhm I did not. I built a home made funnel similar to this using a small shop vacuum. I did one run with very poor material but the process worked! I have to work on controlling the suction and the air temperature. Trial and error but I hope to find a good balance that works!
1. Dry ice is full of chemical and petroleum contaminants. It isnt food grade. 2. We had a large volume to process and dry ice technique takes much longer than ice water hash. 3. We were looking to make bubble hash, not pressed kief.👍
While this is a smart idea, the cost of a freeze dryer is minimal if you're doing decent sized runs of hash. The biggest thing to me more than anything when it comes to drying out the hash before pressing rosin, is the fact that it's not just a vacuum that is created but rather its the fact that the moisture and water is being evacuated at a lower pressure, there by preserving more terpenes and actually making a cleaner product. I think what needs to really happen is that there needs to be a vacuum assisted bubble hash method where the hash is actually filtered through fritted glass or something similar, and then you can take those screens out and freeze dry those. If that happened, the amount of processing that is required to sift and filter the screen drops dramatically while also drying off the material faster.
If this is strictly for bubble hash… why not press the keif/hash. Technically, historically, it isn’t hash until it’s pressed anyway. The water comes right out. I promise.
The guy in brown really asks all the right questions. Ty.
Nice work guys! I work with vacuum and buchner's a lot, so there are a couple things I might offer.
1) The thing on the top held by the hair band really serves no purpose. In fact I might suggest it's counter productive because the vacuum under is working against a closed top. Leaving the top open is better for operation.
2) You might consider the ceramic funnel and put the hash on the ash-less qualitative filter and you don't have to wrestle with the glass frit. It would be easier and you can get larger flat surface area.
3) Concerning the "vapor trap," it's called a "cold trap." The primary use of a cold trap is to protect the pump from sucking vapor that will ruin the pump long term. What you mentioned about the risk of oil creeping through the lines into the beaker can be eliminated very easily. That will ONLY happen if you turn the pump off and the beaker is still under negative pressure, it can suck oil out of the case into the beaker. What you are running will most likely not have that positioning. To be careful and eliminate the risk 100% simply keep the pump running the whole time while it is hooked to the beaker and remove the hose from the port. It's impossible of oil to creep while vac is running or under ambient pressure.
What he 👆said
Others said that in the comments but shago likes to shadowban people who talk reality (and he is very political)
Came here to say this. 👍🏼✌🏼
Without the top you would have less negative pressure, the vacuum is going to take the path of least resistance…… the top with the tiny hole creates a vacuum chamber lowering your atmospheric pressure which is what you want to suck the fluid out faster and more efficient!
Great info on the pump!!! I’ll have to check out the ceramic funnel . As for the ashless qualitative filters I’d be concerned with the material getting stuck I’d go with a 25 micron screen
The foil hampers operation. Negative pressure or vacuum is needed below the filter. The difference in pressure between atmospheric and the vac under the funnel is what pulls liquid through. Adding the foil reduces the atmospheric pressure above the filter. It DOESN'T increase it.
Read through a forum and found a useful tip, to protect your pump unplug the hose from the pump end while it is still running and allow some fresh air in to purge the moisture out of the pump. Otherwise the moisture will mix with the oil damaging your pump
Thank you for sharing wise man 👍
I am about to build an adapter so use a vacuum cleaner and just the top meshed part of this hope it will worke I ordert for 39€ so I guess everyone have a vacuum cleaner at home
Thanks so much to both of you gentlemen for taking the time to go over this! A hidden gem of a tip for the at home Cannaseur 😎.
Great interview Shango!
In the theme of keeping this low cost anyone wanting to try this should buy the glass and rent the vacuum pump if on a budget.
In the USA large chain auto parts stores (think O'Rileys, auto zone, pep boys, etc) have loaner vacuum pumps for servicing a car's A/C. To "rent" they charge a credit card for the amount of the pump and as long as you return it by a set date you will get a 100% refund.
Hope this helps someone! Stay irie everybody ✌️
That is a smart suggestion very much in the spirit of the post. Thanks!
Don't use a fritted Buchner for this. The cleanup suckssss. Use a perforated Buchner with filter papers. Much much easier
They must love seeing the oil that comes back full of moisture. Ask for a set of guages and recovery tank too or they'll start to catch on what we're doing
Quick tip: I found most refrigerators condense from the top down so the bottom shelves for veggies sit at 25-35% humidity. I’ve dried hash the full way using this but now might add this method to quicken the process 🌱
just wanted to say the same...on this way its dry in 24 hours
@@rastaandy1990 what about a freezer and put that in a glass?
shleves for veggies sit at 80-90?
What about putting thos whole design in a mini fridge...
Just before I collect the bubble hash off of the bubble bag, I hold a folded up paper towel on the bottom of the screen. That takes a ton of water out. I drop it onto my 25 mic screen that is sitting on a paper towel. Then in 1-3 minutes, I can shave it with a cold butter knife into tiny pieces. I love buying equipment though, so I may be trying this.
my man! I literally just got a press yesterday thank you so so so so much!
hahaha im literally about to watch this like 10 times
What press did you get brotha? I got nug smashed xp for 1400. It came leaking and not holding pressure. I returned it and got a 12 ton dabpress for half the price. I had no problem with this one.
I just wanted to say that you can purchase Food Grade Oil for the pump if your worried about petrochemicals being leached into the product. Thank you for your video.
is that a real concern? I mean the pump is pulling away from the hash.
Heck yeah buddy! Love the video! I was microplanning frozen hash pucks before this and was working up a nasty case of tennis elbow! Happy to report that this works great for me as well!
Thanks for the share I've been trying to figure out getting around the freeze dryer, excellent 👌
Thanks I was going to diy build a freeze drier but I’m going to do this instead
Immediately thought of using the lid from a harbor freight paint gun
i found this at the perfect time
Thanks for this updated video guys. Appreciate it!
I usually carry a lab setup and a vacuum pump for a plumber…
This will work out perfectly for me ! 😳
The buchner funnels I have, they go onto a conical flask that has a vacuum tube on the side of it.
Ceramic funnel with holes in it, that you put filter papers on top of
Good stuff guys. I'll be putting this to use soon and contributing my findings and thoughts.
This is awesome! Thank you for sharing. And Shango, nice hat! Wovenfree is rad.
Thanks! It was a Christmas treat for myself! First ball cap style hat I've ever paid for, and I really, really like it!
ive done this with kief. i was making a tincture with it and i wanted to filter out the kief and this worked. kinda slow but it worked to give me all the liquid with no kief. i always wondered why ppl doing bubble never used this tech to filter out their water lol. i had a freeze dryer but damn the electricity was pricey since i also freeze dried food with it and for personals it was not worth it so i sold it and made some money on top.
Just a big thank's .peace
I don't know about this set up, but for vac ovens, you use pumps with one way valves. when the vac is released, oil laden vapor can rush back into the oven and taint bho. A cheap ball valve can offer peace of mind to those concerned.
The piece holding the tube on has a barb type fitting and that's what stops the hose from being vacuumed off.
Ty!
Game changer
Thank you
This is awesome! Freaking genius, I am absolutely doing this later this year. Only thing I can think to contribute is to use something else instead of a knife to make those cuts, reduce the surface area of the cutting tool to prevent loss. I’d use a straightened out paper clip, maybe some thread
toothpicks
Woahh cool 👌🏻😉 nice work thanks
Thank you bro the original video was epic I tell everyone I know 🙏💚✌
Thank you 🙏🏻
Thanks for that!!
Do you sieve the material before the Büchner funnel? Or plop the wet hash onto a screen into the funnel, let it dry and then sieve?
Thanks for this awesome video
All refrigerator compressors are vacuum pumps remove, crimp refrigerant line and you have a vacuum pump I have personally done this for other projects but never for Hash or any other Canabis related endeavors.
Thrifty brother from another mother
I noticed that a coffee filter works just as good, if not better than the bona fide Buchner funnel filters that you can buy.
We don't recommend anything paper-based like funnel filter screen or coffee filters. The hash will often stick to it and peel off on the hash when you remove it. Like Ty says in the video, his best recommendation is a 37 micron rosin screen. Flawless. Happy hashing! 👍
@@ShangoLos You can cut the 25 micron nylon mesh to the same size as the funnel and lay it as a boundry. If it lays flat you will have better vac pull which will pull more water.
Tell Ty if he wants to market any aspect of this, he can make Büchner funnel shaped rosin screens. That creates the best vacuum seal, and currently people are required to cut their screens to fit
Benn doing that for years.
should the frit filter be coarse or fine or does it matter?
id just like to say thank you for this video its a fkn game changer and i love you both for sharing you have some good karma coming your way
And the money you save from buying a freeze drier you can buy silver and gold.
Does something like this worked with vacuum cleaner as well ?
Could you sieve instead of cut with a knife? Before wine cooler or fridge?
You have no idea how helpful this is to me.
Covid took my taste of Mary j for me, now I can only enjoy terps thru hash or concentrates. I belive it was the covid changing my taste buds from the plant material. Now to process my flower I need to wash it in order to consume. I am very indebted to this info, thanks shango.
Also can we talk to Gnome about his new photoperiod cultivars? Thanks for all the info.
What's the size of the hose attachment
You ever find out?
I wanted a vacum pump anyway. I don't mind waiting for the product to dry but I usually do it in winter in a cool room. If anyone would explain why speedy drying is important , other than mold , please lmk.
to avoid oxidation, since this can impact taste, look and quality
@@tomhubner210 Would I get a blonder product. What I'm making now , 1 ounce temple balls is quite dark.
They don't pull as deep of a vacuum, but look into oil-less diaphragm pumps, they are available relatively cheaply now, but you do get whht you pay for. I don't have an easy source of Dry Ice nearby to use in a cold trap and you will either use a lot of oil changing it after every use or kill the pump if you don't.
What is the size tubing on the video or is that whatever comes with the pump?
Great video, however having trouble finding the right wine cooler with humidity control. Could you link it? Thanks
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😂🎉
If I could give you a hug I would.
What pore size are you using? G1, G2, G3? Nice tech, looking forward to try it.
i just bought a g3... which is finer than the g1 - so we will see...
YES!!!
does the complete bottom of the funnel has to be covred with the micron sheet and the hash or is it ok if it sits just in the middle as a puddle?
does the air has to be sucked through for pulling the water out or is it becouse of the vacuum?
Anyone with a vacuum pump should get a decent quantity of oil and get into the habit of replacing it regularly
Would a g2 or g3 frit have a negative affect? You guys are using g1 no?
Will this yield completely dry, smashable hash?
Anyone happen to know the size of the clear tube? Thanks!
You ever find out?
@@HorseCuhm I did not. I built a home made funnel similar to this using a small shop vacuum. I did one run with very poor material but the process worked! I have to work on controlling the suction and the air temperature. Trial and error but I hope to find a good balance that works!
gotta be beautiful puget sound
It surely is!
Or you could just dry sift and negate the need for a buchner funnel and vacuum pump
So the infamous “ Cuban tech” can anyone explain confirm or deny.
Why not just use dry ice to extracr kief?
1. Dry ice is full of chemical and petroleum contaminants. It isnt food grade. 2. We had a large volume to process and dry ice technique takes much longer than ice water hash. 3. We were looking to make bubble hash, not pressed kief.👍
Try freezing the hash first, freezing and vacuum are how a freeze dryer works.
How come I don’t have any problems just letting my hash Pattie’s sit on screen on cardboard in the open air
Never got mold .
Is it a rush thing ?
Time means Oxidation bud ,, blond hash look much better.
Very nice. Just in time too. :)
Plus pelle pollare is always out there to mark up things you can get anywhere! Ha
While this is a smart idea, the cost of a freeze dryer is minimal if you're doing decent sized runs of hash. The biggest thing to me more than anything when it comes to drying out the hash before pressing rosin, is the fact that it's not just a vacuum that is created but rather its the fact that the moisture and water is being evacuated at a lower pressure, there by preserving more terpenes and actually making a cleaner product. I think what needs to really happen is that there needs to be a vacuum assisted bubble hash method where the hash is actually filtered through fritted glass or something similar, and then you can take those screens out and freeze dry those. If that happened, the amount of processing that is required to sift and filter the screen drops dramatically while also drying off the material faster.
I grow my own cannabis so "the cost of a freeze dryer is minimal if you're doing decent sized runs of hash" is not at all applicable to me
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If this is strictly for bubble hash… why not press the keif/hash. Technically, historically, it isn’t hash until it’s pressed anyway. The water comes right out. I promise.
Lmao people might take this seriously
plz downvote
I can hear this comment...
Bahahahaha you probably smoke rock hard bubble hash. Wonder why ??? Because you press it while it contains water 😂 check your facts mate
I hope you are joking...