Maybe not. Picard’s style of command never seemed to be Worf’s cup of prune juice. He respected Picard sure, he just couldn’t emulate how Picard commanded for himself. Especially with the tides of war that was looming
No Picard taught Worf to use his head in a situation and not the Bull Head Rush in without knowing the risks and about the responsibilities that he had to himself to a shipped to his crew. Picard had taught him many ways and for lack of a better term how to not be bull headed.
Picard was the Diplomat. If you wanted to learn about first contact and negotiations then he’s the teacher. Sisko was the Commander. Worf is here to learn about the Command Structure of Starfleet, not security’s.
"United We Stand, Divided We Fall". I guess the Klingons never heard of that. Sisko was right. The more they fight amongst themselves, the weaker they become and the more confused and distracted they become. Eventually, they forget who the real enemy is. And the worst part is neither the Dominion nor the Founders would've had to lift a finger. All they would've had to do was just sit back and watch the Federation, Klingons and Cardassians destroy each other. With all sides fighting each other, they would leave the Alpha Quadrant perfectly safe and open for the Dominion to come in and take over. And they all would do exactly what Gowron said he didn't intend to do; Hand victory to the Dominion.
Probably didn't help matters that the "Martok" advising and pushing for war and euphoria is actually a Changeling in disguise, assigned specifically to cause havoc in the Alpha Quadrant. The Federation almost fell for something similar, but thankfully Sisko managed to help counter that. Too bad Gowron played right into this impostor's hand.
@@redips Spying to the next level? Too bad for him that he got impulsive and reckless when Odo unmasked him. On the other hand, the Klingons emptying their clips on him was amazing!
If it were trying to be more comedic, the only thing destroyed on the Promenade would’ve been Quark’s (but the doors he locked would’ve somehow been the only thing that survived unscathed-adding to the comedy of him unlocking them. Maybe once he walks in and surveys the damage, those doors then fall off their hinges behind him.
Interesting thing is that Martok himself did a blood test of sorts in the beginning of the episode, but like Sisko’s dad said, there isn’t a test that can’t be beat.
@@SmeginatorThat's true. In the season finale where Odo reveals Gowron to potentially be a Changeling, the original plan was to stick to that, but tons of fans wrote angry letters against that since Gowron was a fan favorite
@@K-11609 although to be fair, as it turned out, many of the originals (including Dr Bashir) were still at the detention camp so the real Gowron would not have been disposed of so quickly. I like the idea of Changeling Martok here, it makes some of his choices in this episode very questionable: such as murdering Commander Kaybok and making it look like a reaction to dereliction of duty and honour; and his reactions to Sisko, Worf and Gowron here. I like to think that he was a veteran and highly trained Founder elder who knew the tricks of the trade too well but whose downfall was that he never fully understood Klingons.
you cut one of the best scenes, where Sisko confides in Worf that he almost resigned over his wife's death, and persuades Worf not to resign over his sense of dishonour.
To be fair, the Klingons had also just finished battling the Cardassians. They would have taken losses before returning to DS9. And then they lost over a dozen ships there alone. So, every little bit helps.
@@Beuwen_The_Dragon That's fine for a grander scheme of things approach, but there were *52 Klingon warships* attacking DS9 at that moment, and all it took was the prospect of six incoming Federation starships (granted, led by the Venture) to convince them to stand down.
It's too bad that Quark locked down the bar before the attack. I would have loved to have seen Morn fight off the Klingons armed with nothing but his trusty bar stool.
Excellent final scene for The Way of the Warrior, the best episode of Star Trek Deep Space Nine and all Star Trek TV series combined together. It will never be matched. Robert O'Reilly was excellent as Chancellor Gowron. The same for J.G.Hertzler as General Martok and Michael Dorn as Lieutenant Commander Worf. A mention also to Marc Alaimo who was also excellent as the evil Gul Dukat. The same for Andrew J. Robinson as Garak, Casey Biggs as Damar, and Jeffrey Combs as Weyoun, who were also excellent. An important milestone for Star Trek Deep Space Nine; it took a new direction and never looked back. Gowron: "I do not intend to hand victory to the Dominion! But let your people know! The Klingon Enpire will remenber what has happened here! You're sided against us in battle! And this, we do not forgive! Or forget!". 'Kira Nerys: "Looks like the Klingons are here to stay.". Benjamin Sisko: "Maybe they are. And so are we."". Great Star Trek! Star Trek at its best, period! That is all! "Destroying an empire to win a war is no victory! Ending a battle to save an empire is no defeat!"
Probably pretty obvious now to those who watched this show, but those were the early signs that Martok was the Changeling how he insisted on the battle even with Gowron calling for retreat
A Galaxy class, 2 Excelsiors and God knows what else was in the Federation battle group. Klingons would have been f***ed if they wanted to keep fighting.
Nah, they just would spy through visors, tricorders or other devices to get the shield frequencies and fuck them up. Then, the feds would eject warp cores and do saucer separations all over the place and destroy DS9 while a Captain Picard Day is going on, killing all the families they brought with them into the war zone. Oo-mox for everyone!!!
I have a hard time understanding why the Federation did not adapt some of the Borg, ideas, like having ships with multiple sets of engines and shield generators, which would make their ships far more powerful, and versatile.
Think Gowron might have been talking about when the Defiant decloaked and started blowing up Klingon ships left, right and centre, while rescuing the leadership of the galactic power the Klingons were at war with.
6 BIG Starships. We could see at least one Galaxy-Class and two Excelsior-Class, neither of which are a slouch. Who knows what the other ships were. Nebula-Class? Other Galaxy or Excelsior-Class? I imagine all six ships were heavy hitters if it made the Klingons retreat despite their numbers.
@@MrDibara I think there was a Miranda by the shot but the other two - I bet one was a Nebula and the other maybe an Intrepid as they were in service by this time.
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The Federation wasn't prepared for war in Yesterday's Enterprise. They were too soft and paid for it. But in the Way of the Warrior, the Federation had 2 years of prep time to get ready for a war. They expected to fight the Dominion. So the Federation is much more hardened and ready here.
Yes, that always bothered me as well. A people living for war, easily beaten by humans in hand to hand combat, can't aim to save their lives. Same with the Jem Hedar. A pity, really, but I guess it's necessary to tell the story.
The ones boarding the station are enlisted soldiers so they are not the same level as Worf, Gowron, Kor, or any of those we have seen before that were born from royalty, hence received early training by the biggest and meanest instructors out there. Sisko is also a beast for a human and still furious at the Borg killing his wife so he has nothing to lose in his eyes by going full out.
This isn't STD, the Federation didn't do things that way. They wanted Cardassia to join the Federation, but they don't take over planets and governments like that.
@@xadam2dudex Ah yes. It would have been similar to the occupation that came about because of a state of war between the USA and Japan, where there was a need to rework the existing government from an absolute monarchy to something more palatable, and with any and all previous treaties between the two countries voided by said war, and no remaining enemy nation encroaching upon US soil. Its very much the "similar" to the Cardassians still having a sovereign nation where they are already enacting domestic reform, have an existing peace treaty which includes stipulations for non-interference, and the Klingons have begun open war against the Federation. Did it also occur to you that it would set a very poor precedent if the Federation would unilaterally take the effort to annex a weakened rival nation during wartime against ANOTHER rival nation, while surround by yet other rival nations that essentially fear one day the Federation would employ its economic and industrial might to conquer them all, from the Romulans to the Tzenkheti?
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Some day, Gowron's eyes will pop out like photon torpedos!
He will not Forgive or Forget
You will not have that day!
They sure did, the day Worf killed him & held his eyes open while performing the Klingon death bark.
@@_BLACKSTAR_ I'm really glad Worf killed Gowron, as Gowron deserved it.
They'd probably hit whoever he's mad at like torpedoes, too.
2:08 Morn sidling right on up to the bar the moment Quark reopens. Gotta love how he has his priorities in order.
Dude was just standing there, off-camera, during the entire battle on the promenade, waiting for Quark to reopen.
was just about to post this lmao seconds after the lock came off
Minor thing: Almost before Quark's doors are fully open, Morn runs in and sits down at the bar.
Rule Of Acquisition #57: Good customers are as rare as latinium; treasure them. :)
Rule of Acquisition #cant remember: when morn leaves, its over
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It's good thing that Worf eventually became a well respected Klingon General.
The actor that played Gowron, you can tell he enjoyed the role. He puts his heart and soul into Gowron and it’s so fun to watch.
Very well said. Really goes hard with the facial expressions.
2:35 I just realized they added in this elines later. Glad they did, it humbles him and adds a future depth to Worf. Never noticed that before.
Gowrons actor played his role masterfully, dukats actor did pretty good overall
“You won’t find a better teacher.”
O’Brien throwing shade at Picard!
Maybe not. Picard’s style of command never seemed to be Worf’s cup of prune juice. He respected Picard sure, he just couldn’t emulate how Picard commanded for himself. Especially with the tides of war that was looming
He's talking about command. Worf was a security / tactical officer on the enterprise.
No Picard taught Worf to use his head in a situation and not the Bull Head Rush in without knowing the risks and about the responsibilities that he had to himself to a shipped to his crew. Picard had taught him many ways and for lack of a better term how to not be bull headed.
Picard was the Diplomat. If you wanted to learn about first contact and negotiations then he’s the teacher.
Sisko was the Commander. Worf is here to learn about the Command Structure of Starfleet, not security’s.
Picard would just tell him no.
Glory to You, and Your Hooouuuse!
Quark and Garek's banter was enjoyable. Two misfits stuck in the same situation with the bubbly Federation as their saviors and host.
"United We Stand, Divided We Fall". I guess the Klingons never heard of that. Sisko was right. The more they fight amongst themselves, the weaker they become and the more confused and distracted they become. Eventually, they forget who the real enemy is. And the worst part is neither the Dominion nor the Founders would've had to lift a finger. All they would've had to do was just sit back and watch the Federation, Klingons and Cardassians destroy each other. With all sides fighting each other, they would leave the Alpha Quadrant perfectly safe and open for the Dominion to come in and take over. And they all would do exactly what Gowron said he didn't intend to do; Hand victory to the Dominion.
Probably didn't help matters that the "Martok" advising and pushing for war and euphoria is actually a Changeling in disguise, assigned specifically to cause havoc in the Alpha Quadrant.
The Federation almost fell for something similar, but thankfully Sisko managed to help counter that. Too bad Gowron played right into this impostor's hand.
@@MrDibara Yes, Gowron failed the old smell test
@@MrDibara it's strange that "Martok" is a changeling, despite the fact that he cut his and there is blood.
@@redips Spying to the next level? Too bad for him that he got impulsive and reckless when Odo unmasked him.
On the other hand, the Klingons emptying their clips on him was amazing!
Worf is my favorite Trek character. Such a badass.
If it were trying to be more comedic, the only thing destroyed on the Promenade would’ve been Quark’s (but the doors he locked would’ve somehow been the only thing that survived unscathed-adding to the comedy of him unlocking them. Maybe once he walks in and surveys the damage, those doors then fall off their hinges behind him.
That would have been hilarious. 🤣 😂 🤣
Add in a laugh track and it would be perfect!
Was Martok a changeling at this point? If he was, his acting was on point in this scene.
Yes, he was.
Interesting thing is that Martok himself did a blood test of sorts in the beginning of the episode, but like Sisko’s dad said, there isn’t a test that can’t be beat.
When they filmed it, he wasn’t, but they changed their minds later on and made him one so Martok could return later
@@SmeginatorThat's true. In the season finale where Odo reveals Gowron to potentially be a Changeling, the original plan was to stick to that, but tons of fans wrote angry letters against that since Gowron was a fan favorite
@@K-11609 although to be fair, as it turned out, many of the originals (including Dr Bashir) were still at the detention camp so the real Gowron would not have been disposed of so quickly.
I like the idea of Changeling Martok here, it makes some of his choices in this episode very questionable: such as murdering Commander Kaybok and making it look like a reaction to dereliction of duty and honour; and his reactions to Sisko, Worf and Gowron here. I like to think that he was a veteran and highly trained Founder elder who knew the tricks of the trade too well but whose downfall was that he never fully understood Klingons.
Speak the words brother Benny
you cut one of the best scenes, where Sisko confides in Worf that he almost resigned over his wife's death, and persuades Worf not to resign over his sense of dishonour.
He had it, some of the clips have been removed by RUclips it seems.
"This we do not forgive. OR FORGEEEET" 👀
The delivery of that line is gold.
Even Gowron's "Zoom-hangup button press face" is badass.
I think it says a lot about Klingon warships that six Federation starships was enough to turn the tide
To be fair, the Klingons had also just finished battling the Cardassians. They would have taken losses before returning to DS9. And then they lost over a dozen ships there alone. So, every little bit helps.
@@Beuwen_The_Dragon That's fine for a grander scheme of things approach, but there were *52 Klingon warships* attacking DS9 at that moment, and all it took was the prospect of six incoming Federation starships (granted, led by the Venture) to convince them to stand down.
@@fruitofthelum5815 don't forget that DS9 had already inflicted heavy damage to the Klingon Fleet.
@@fruitofthelum5815 But then every other starship in the Federation would be mobilised
You cut out the part where Sisko talks to Worf about resigning from Starfleet and convinces him to change his mind.
0:18 the empire is fighting kardashian s?? Because of OJ?
Yes earthling
Worf.. Great character addition!
It's too bad that Quark locked down the bar before the attack. I would have loved to have seen Morn fight off the Klingons armed with nothing but his trusty bar stool.
Very funny idea. Although it might be too comedic.
And Worf wanted to resign.
I love Morn so much
Get rid of those Klingons
Maybe YOU should talk to Worf about that! Ha ha!
Amen to that
Excellent final scene for The Way of the Warrior, the best episode of Star Trek Deep Space Nine and all Star Trek TV series combined together. It will never be matched. Robert O'Reilly was excellent as Chancellor Gowron. The same for J.G.Hertzler as General Martok and Michael Dorn as Lieutenant Commander Worf. A mention also to Marc Alaimo who was also excellent as the evil Gul Dukat. The same for Andrew J. Robinson as Garak, Casey Biggs as Damar, and Jeffrey Combs as Weyoun, who were also excellent. An important milestone for Star Trek Deep Space Nine; it took a new direction and never looked back. Gowron: "I do not intend to hand victory to the Dominion! But let your people know! The Klingon Enpire will remenber what has happened here! You're sided against us in battle! And this, we do not forgive! Or forget!". 'Kira Nerys: "Looks like the Klingons are here to stay.". Benjamin Sisko: "Maybe they are. And so are we."". Great Star Trek! Star Trek at its best, period! That is all! "Destroying an empire to win a war is no victory! Ending a battle to save an empire is no defeat!"
Changeling martok really trying to keep the fight going, lol
Worf is my favorite commander
O’Brien and Worf have seen each other in red before. Worf wore red all through season one of TNG, and O’Brien in ‘Encounter at Farpoint.’
This is the changeling Martok. How interesting.
Probably pretty obvious now to those who watched this show, but those were the early signs that Martok was the Changeling how he insisted on the battle even with Gowron calling for retreat
A Galaxy class, 2 Excelsiors and God knows what else was in the Federation battle group. Klingons would have been f***ed if they wanted to keep fighting.
It would have been awesome to see!
Nah, they just would spy through visors, tricorders or other devices to get the shield frequencies and fuck them up. Then, the feds would eject warp cores and do saucer separations all over the place and destroy DS9 while a Captain Picard Day is going on, killing all the families they brought with them into the war zone. Oo-mox for everyone!!!
Wasn't there also a Nebula class?
I have a hard time understanding why the Federation did not adapt some of the Borg, ideas, like having ships with multiple sets of engines and shield generators, which would make their ships far more powerful, and versatile.
Klingons *Start attacking DS9*
DS9 *Defends itself*
Also Klingons "You have sided against us in battle, for this we don't forgive or forget."
Think Gowron might have been talking about when the Defiant decloaked and started blowing up Klingon ships left, right and centre, while rescuing the leadership of the galactic power the Klingons were at war with.
Probably won't be any operas about getting beat up by a girl.
Nice gel packs
Picard would be a little hurt by O’Briens comments there
What that Worf looks good in red?
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It was only 6 starships
6 BIG Starships. We could see at least one Galaxy-Class and two Excelsior-Class, neither of which are a slouch. Who knows what the other ships were. Nebula-Class? Other Galaxy or Excelsior-Class? I imagine all six ships were heavy hitters if it made the Klingons retreat despite their numbers.
Oh, if only the Klingons knew that. Sisko didn't tell 'em! 🤭
@@MrDibaracould be Mirandas too, Starfleet’s under appreciated Murder Frisbees.
@@MrDibara I think there was a Miranda by the shot but the other two - I bet one was a Nebula and the other maybe an Intrepid as they were in service by this time.
Record in Wars between Federation vs Klingon Empire 1 - 1. Klingons win in Yesterday's Enterprise and Federation wins in The Way of the Warrior Part 2.
The Federation wasn't prepared for war in Yesterday's Enterprise. They were too soft and paid for it.
But in the Way of the Warrior, the Federation had 2 years of prep time to get ready for a war. They expected to fight the Dominion. So the Federation is much more hardened and ready here.
Poor Worf
DON'T FUCK WITH THE FEDERATION
Say hello to foreign folks on the move
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why so complicated
let the side of of the smaller squares be 2a then we get
a^2 + (2a)^2 = 8x8
5a^2 = 64
area of small square = 4a^2 = 256/5
The Klingons were right... Screw Sisko Screw Bajor
Thank goodness they don’t like the Dominant ones
But I think now they have my formula it’s over. Can’t speak for them. Can’t say “for now
z”
How are the Klingons going to supply those world's Klingon territory is on the opposite side of the federation
Whose fault is that?
First five minutes of his new job as strategic operations officer and someone else is sharing an intelligence report. Not a good start.
Klingons are worse than stormtroopers in battle, a human child would easily kill a dozen of Klingon warriors single handedly.
Yes, that always bothered me as well. A people living for war, easily beaten by humans in hand to hand combat, can't aim to save their lives.
Same with the Jem Hedar. A pity, really, but I guess it's necessary to tell the story.
The ones boarding the station are enlisted soldiers so they are not the same level as Worf, Gowron, Kor, or any of those we have seen before that were born from royalty, hence received early training by the biggest and meanest instructors out there. Sisko is also a beast for a human and still furious at the Borg killing his wife so he has nothing to lose in his eyes by going full out.
Gowron is annoying
so why didn't the Federation take over the Cardassian empire ? they were defeated ...it just left them to side with the Dominion
Have you watched Star Trek before?
This isn't STD, the Federation didn't do things that way. They wanted Cardassia to join the Federation, but they don't take over planets and governments like that.
@@pittland44 it would have been similar to the post WW2 occupation of Japan .. Look how that turned out
@@xadam2dudex Ah yes. It would have been similar to the occupation that came about because of a state of war between the USA and Japan, where there was a need to rework the existing government from an absolute monarchy to something more palatable, and with any and all previous treaties between the two countries voided by said war, and no remaining enemy nation encroaching upon US soil.
Its very much the "similar" to the Cardassians still having a sovereign nation where they are already enacting domestic reform, have an existing peace treaty which includes stipulations for non-interference, and the Klingons have begun open war against the Federation.
Did it also occur to you that it would set a very poor precedent if the Federation would unilaterally take the effort to annex a weakened rival nation during wartime against ANOTHER rival nation, while surround by yet other rival nations that essentially fear one day the Federation would employ its economic and industrial might to conquer them all, from the Romulans to the Tzenkheti?
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