It really is super nice seeing how impactful the tech was-especially for a card like Cornucopia where it's subtle and happens over the course of many turns. Seeing "oh you'd be completely dead if not for the cornucopias but you're at 15 because of them" makes it a lot more obvious how much of a powerful card it is. You should do this with other things too-see how much damage a card in an aggro deck pumps out in a game or how much value a manland generates
I'd have found it a little hard to believe without it. But there's no doubt that several of those games would have been losses without it. I'm really hard-pressed to think what would have been as effective in the same slot as a passive effect.
38:35 "pretty good place to Sunfall" the one singular 3/3 token on the battlefield looking up in fear as the unmatched power of the sun annihilates his ashes
creatures in current standard: "Alright spacemarines, I know you are few but you must take back the extremely heavily guarded base and then hold off a full armada space assault without backup. And of course you aren't just a sacrificial misdirect, of coursenot....."
What truly put it over the top for me was the unholy trinity of astral cornucopia + three steps ahead + *intimidation campaign*. If you haven't tried it already, a Sultai list rather than Bant, more or less playing the same sort of control shell (deadly coverup instead of sunfall, go for the throat instead of get lost, the UB mill land which commits crimes instead of map-sa falcon land etc) allows you to keep committing crimes and recasting intimidation campaign every turn. And the true power is that means you very reliably cast at least one 2 color spell every turn and another interaction on opponents turn, drawing an extra card per turn, gaining 3/5/7/9+ life as you make more cornucopias and another set of lifegain on their turn. I've had games end with 100+ life several times
@@CaptainMurdock1337 I've done a bunch of tweaks and different builds with some oddballs thrown in like freestrider lookout, pillage the bog, commune with spirits, unlicensed hearse. Otherwise its just your favorite medley of dimir control spells like deadly coverup, go for the throat, shoot the sheriff, tear asunder, the end, phantom interference, out of air, whatever. I wound up cutting deduce because if you have a campaign you can pay mana to draw cards at will pretty much. Same as UW control you don't need much win conditions beyond lands
I have had games that were mostly: I play intimidation campaign, trade card for card and campaign goes back in hand, repeat a few times and opponent concedes. I haven't tried cornucopia (mostly because I am cheaping out on crafting them) but they are insane cards.
@@0NBalfa0 the amount of mythics this time is insane.. I'm glad I got 4 copies of the Synthesizer in Arena.. That card is busted. I've got 2 cornucopias already. Next wildcards are going to be spend on 3 more.
I’ve learned so much watching this channel over the past couple of weeks. I am determined to beat my son at this game and he hates control decks so that’s exactly what I’m gonna make.
Libby, not sure if you have time to read comments, but thank you very much for what you did! The edits have been clean, and the addition of the "Life gained" counter was really nice. Much appreciated!
Every time I come back to magic, my first move is to go to CGB, browse the channel to find the most recent blue white control and go torture various Opponents. And every time, every freaking time, I'm not disappointed. This one is gold again. You are my true hero Sensei.
I saw this on your moxfield last night and threw it together and had a blast with it running through the ladder Casting deluge with a couple of the cornucopia in play reminded me of playing sphinx’s rev lol
Still don't like playing control myself but your thought processes are really helpful for learning how to evaluate threats and resources - *especially* that long mirror match, where ostensibly they're the same threats and resources (besides the cornucopias lol), so it's just down to who uses them better.
Got into fighting games recently and it changed my life. The feeling of winning because you are a better player than your opponent is something no MTG player has ever felt before.
When I started seeing cornucopia a few weeks ago, I had to dial my red deck to burst harder and be less resilient to removal. Luckily, mono black is out of favor for some reason.
Always learning watching you play blue white. I’ll be like why did he do that and 7 turns later it’s like oh that’s why. Ps loved the blue white vs blue white never didn’t have it
in a deck that wipes the board on turn 4/5 consistently, I feel like running eerie interference a better option than temp lockdown. Since it stays relevant later in the game and stops you from dying to a random uncounterable borderline untargetable haste.
The single point of life from Celestus has already saved many a control mage's skins. This is our Celestus now. No longer Legendary, no longer conditional life gain, but no longer filters our hand.
You forgot about the 5th type of thinker. The delay of game thinker, who once they know they have lost the game, will intentionally delay the game as much as possible, either in the hope that you may just quit or possibly throwing a temper tantrum because they lost (“some people just want to watch the world burn”🔥). MTG Arena players and sportsmanship are like Oil and Water.
Inefficient and sorcery speed and is pretty devastating if the opponent has removal for it. Basically the same reasons you don't see control decks running Ossification, and that's a much more efficient spell.
I still cringed hard when he didnt go for that first Emperor with the mites, and im an Emperor simp! And its nothing to do with avengers level threat copium. Simply put the emperor was free, no tricks, no bamboozles, no downsides, just free, and any player of any skill level shouldve gone for her in that situation.
I think you are making minor misplays by playing mirrexes before other lands T3-T5 because it means they are a target for field of ruins for longer and you have less access to you colors when before you can really stabilize to take value from mirrex. Great content though, keep it up!
MTG Arena should have card specific configs. Depending on cards in your deck, you should have specific configs for auto doing certain actions. The optional life gain of the cornucopia in this game would get extremely annoying and most decks would never want to decline.
lol wut? you for real my man. Standard is meh cause of the 3 year rotation, decks are so bloated and busted you just die on turn 3 by "Slickshot", "Illuminator Virtuoso", "Picnic Ruiner" or "Imondane recruiter" and if its not that, you're just dead by a combo deck on turn 4 before you get to actually play magic its stupid. Unless you're playing a terrible deck which allows mtg arena's mmr matchmaking data to save you, this is all you're going to go up against. What we need is rotation that's why its been bumped up to Aug.
I didn't say that all these are not right. But together with all agro you described...this control full of removals ..swipers.....or the blue djinn deck with 16 counters....are so uninspired.....that rly make me throw up....! And i play mtg for more than 18 years....
Show libby some love for the lifegain counter!
It’s a feature!! Way to be proactive Libby
Hell yeah Libby you’re a real one 🙏
Excellent addition. Well done!
It really is super nice seeing how impactful the tech was-especially for a card like Cornucopia where it's subtle and happens over the course of many turns. Seeing "oh you'd be completely dead if not for the cornucopias but you're at 15 because of them" makes it a lot more obvious how much of a powerful card it is. You should do this with other things too-see how much damage a card in an aggro deck pumps out in a game or how much value a manland generates
MAD PROPS to the editor for the "Life gained" counter, that's awesome
It also means that the editor watched the whole video
Yea it’s such a good addition!!
They should try this out on different decks.
Maybe "Spells countered" or "Face Damage".
It could feed us interesting info that expands the video.
STRONGLY AGREE
I'd have found it a little hard to believe without it. But there's no doubt that several of those games would have been losses without it. I'm really hard-pressed to think what would have been as effective in the same slot as a passive effect.
38:35 "pretty good place to Sunfall"
the one singular 3/3 token on the battlefield looking up in fear as the unmatched power of the sun annihilates his ashes
creatures in current standard: "Alright spacemarines, I know you are few but you must take back the extremely heavily guarded base and then hold off a full armada space assault without backup. And of course you aren't just a sacrificial misdirect, of coursenot....."
Missed opportunity to call this deck “Corntrol” 😂
😂😂 I guess you were _three steps ahead_ of CGB on that pun
Also missed an opportunity to play endless detour
What truly put it over the top for me was the unholy trinity of astral cornucopia + three steps ahead + *intimidation campaign*. If you haven't tried it already, a Sultai list rather than Bant, more or less playing the same sort of control shell (deadly coverup instead of sunfall, go for the throat instead of get lost, the UB mill land which commits crimes instead of map-sa falcon land etc) allows you to keep committing crimes and recasting intimidation campaign every turn. And the true power is that means you very reliably cast at least one 2 color spell every turn and another interaction on opponents turn, drawing an extra card per turn, gaining 3/5/7/9+ life as you make more cornucopias and another set of lifegain on their turn. I've had games end with 100+ life several times
Would you mind giving a full list?
@@CaptainMurdock1337 I've done a bunch of tweaks and different builds with some oddballs thrown in like freestrider lookout, pillage the bog, commune with spirits, unlicensed hearse. Otherwise its just your favorite medley of dimir control spells like deadly coverup, go for the throat, shoot the sheriff, tear asunder, the end, phantom interference, out of air, whatever. I wound up cutting deduce because if you have a campaign you can pay mana to draw cards at will pretty much. Same as UW control you don't need much win conditions beyond lands
I have had games that were mostly: I play intimidation campaign, trade card for card and campaign goes back in hand, repeat a few times and opponent concedes.
I haven't tried cornucopia (mostly because I am cheaping out on crafting them) but they are insane cards.
@@0NBalfa0 the amount of mythics this time is insane.. I'm glad I got 4 copies of the Synthesizer in Arena.. That card is busted. I've got 2 cornucopias already. Next wildcards are going to be spend on 3 more.
@@CaptainMurdock1337 Am I the only one who has a million mythic wild cards and always pinched on rares?
I’ve learned so much watching this channel over the past couple of weeks. I am determined to beat my son at this game and he hates control decks so that’s exactly what I’m gonna make.
That’s hilarious, show him no mercy and no win cons
This is the way.
This man is creating a villain 😄
that mirror match was crazy, Cornucopia showed up to work in that game. Love to see this very performing variation to the deck
If the opponent ran 2-3 jaces like uw used to, it was going to be an easy win
"I am the great Corntrolio! Do you have creature for my counter spell?"
Lifegain counter in control mirror match was great, editor is on fire 😂
Libby, not sure if you have time to read comments, but thank you very much for what you did! The edits have been clean, and the addition of the "Life gained" counter was really nice. Much appreciated!
ancient cornucopia is so good in splashing it in every color combo simply because often it is enough to force aggro to concede lmao
I think i'll try it on the UW synthetizer deck
@@TheMaxinR playing synth puts you BARELY above the knuckle dragging of a mono red player
@@slaphappy-qb3jb eh, i wouldn't say that
@@slaphappy-qb3jb Naya/Cabaretti colors burn with 4x Cornucopia for that sweet Lightning Helix healing.
@@wickederebus 5 life off a Lightning Helix is wild.
Very kind of cgb to educate nivnikoff on the proper way to play control.
Every time I come back to magic, my first move is to go to CGB, browse the channel to find the most recent blue white control and go torture various Opponents. And every time, every freaking time, I'm not disappointed. This one is gold again. You are my true hero Sensei.
It's "no hair gel" CGB. Must be a special occasion. 😁
I saw this on your moxfield last night and threw it together and had a blast with it running through the ladder
Casting deluge with a couple of the cornucopia in play reminded me of playing sphinx’s rev lol
14:00 I think that get lost target is pretty bad. anyone have any thoughts?
Still don't like playing control myself but your thought processes are really helpful for learning how to evaluate threats and resources - *especially* that long mirror match, where ostensibly they're the same threats and resources (besides the cornucopias lol), so it's just down to who uses them better.
Really like the Ancient Cornucopia. Interesting attempt of adding it to UW Control. 👍
Got into fighting games recently and it changed my life. The feeling of winning because you are a better player than your opponent is something no MTG player has ever felt before.
This sounds an awful lot like a skill issue to me. Have you considered getting good, by any chance?
@@methyod Are you still gitting gud at bingo?
Even one of these Cornucopias, in the latest MTG Arena cube, was good enough to keep me in the game late enough to win a few times!
the way you turn the corner at 27:16 is incredible
When I started seeing cornucopia a few weeks ago, I had to dial my red deck to burst harder and be less resilient to removal. Luckily, mono black is out of favor for some reason.
Nice! Already see some people using the deck in the ladder. Impressive how fast it goes lol
Always learning watching you play blue white. I’ll be like why did he do that and 7 turns later it’s like oh that’s why. Ps loved the blue white vs blue white never didn’t have it
in a deck that wipes the board on turn 4/5 consistently, I feel like running eerie interference a better option than temp lockdown. Since it stays relevant later in the game and stops you from dying to a random uncounterable borderline untargetable haste.
Today's lessons:
-Lifegain counter is cool
-Never challenge CGB to the control mirror
You should try the same deck with invasion of arcadios and doppelganger with a stacked sideboard!
Popping in to say I'm a huge fan of your brawl videos and would love to see more 👉👈
Who is the guy showing the deck at the beginning ?
That's MesaFalconGuy.
The single point of life from Celestus has already saved many a control mage's skins.
This is our Celestus now.
No longer Legendary, no longer conditional life gain, but no longer filters our hand.
That life gain counter… Jesus what a mini powerhouse of a cornucopia
Control masterclass, I loved it!
You should look into Cosmic Rebirth and/or Buried in the Garden if you're playing BANT. ;)
Cornucopia surely would have been useful that one time I tried running four copies of The Three Seasons as a wincon
man, watching stuff like this makes me want to try and play magic again... Are there many good control colourschemes that arent predominantly Azorius?
Orhzov, Grixis, Dimir, Boros if you are brave enough.
@@wickederebus oh? whats the boros control Im very curious. I liked playing a boros midrange deck as a kid
Ultimate Guard, so great! “You have to sleeve it …to believe it”!!
another good combo is exquisite blood and marauding blight-priest if you want do a deck with this
You definitely age yourself when you starting singing rolling rolling rolling
when i saw the life gain counter the first time i thought oh this is going to be insane, yep, thx libby
Need to add some Up the Beanstalk. Then you can be playing blue-white while splashing green for both life gain and card draw.
Cornucopia is one of the only cards I haven't pulled any copies of from BIG score, and I absolutely refuse to spend Mythic wildcards on it lmao
13:30 there is a fifth type
The thinker that suffers lag on arena (me)
Seth been on that. Basically everything he makes includes conrycopia
You forgot about the 5th type of thinker. The delay of game thinker, who once they know they have lost the game, will intentionally delay the game as much as possible, either in the hope that you may just quit or possibly throwing a temper tantrum because they lost (“some people just want to watch the world burn”🔥).
MTG Arena players and sportsmanship are like Oil and Water.
This man will never miss an opportunity to add one card to some UW control trash and call it a new deck
Finally Copia getting the recognition it deserves
Took WAY too long. This card slaps; especially with Three Steps
Been a while since I last saw the lifegain relevant in control vs control
Not really the vid for it, but I want to pitch the trio of Ancient Cornucopia + Up the Beanstalk + Zurgo and Ojutai. So much VALUE. :)
FYI - you have the name wrong in your description (you have Astral but it's supposed to be Ancient).
No buried in the garden?
Inefficient and sorcery speed and is pretty devastating if the opponent has removal for it. Basically the same reasons you don't see control decks running Ossification, and that's a much more efficient spell.
The lifegain counter, was really fun hahahha
Thanks for the life gain counter!
Now you have a card for a Thanksgiving video.
Surprised he didn't clone the cornucopia, in the first game
Nice 34min control vs control battle. If only they were more patient with that Jace I bet they could have availed.
Oy! Control mages dancing with each other forever!
where's the win con?
How you going to gloss over the 0-2 red matches?!
I think its my favorite standard card right now.
Whish i had the wild cards man this game never stops wanting me to spend money😂
I'll be happy when the wandering emperor and memory deluge are faded out from standard...
This combination is just annoying AF
I still cringed hard when he didnt go for that first Emperor with the mites, and im an Emperor simp! And its nothing to do with avengers level threat copium. Simply put the emperor was free, no tricks, no bamboozles, no downsides, just free, and any player of any skill level shouldve gone for her in that situation.
Hey look it's mesa falcon guy
The title threw me off, sloth mtg did a bant deck with almost the same title featuring cornucopia...different list though.
hair looks cool today
I think you are making minor misplays by playing mirrexes before other lands T3-T5 because it means they are a target for field of ruins for longer and you have less access to you colors when before you can really stabilize to take value from mirrex. Great content though, keep it up!
Why didn't that opponent have mirrex themselves, what a dummy
Cornucopia is bonkers in historic and pioneer so thats its powerlvl
liked for the life gained counter
I'd rather use it in a guild pact deck. Every spell is 5 life
You look much better with your hair down
can we have long hair CGB?
Add the proliferate land
MTG Arena should have card specific configs. Depending on cards in your deck, you should have specific configs for auto doing certain actions. The optional life gain of the cornucopia in this game would get extremely annoying and most decks would never want to decline.
Yep MTG arena is full of issues that seem incredibly solvable for anyone with basic coding experience.
And yet.
Glad i stopped playing arena for just the kitchen table, what a waste of time...
Why do they still pop up the happy or sad survey at the end of games? Do you like to win or not? Duh.
Well there are plenty of time I’ve had fun and lost. I play brawl though so it is very low stakes.
Little kids vote like that, yes
HEHEHE evil CGB. : D
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Your wincon is 4 cards out of 60...
Copying decks and video titles now. Wow. This is just egregious
This kind of deck is why standard sucks so much nowdays...
lol wut? you for real my man. Standard is meh cause of the 3 year rotation, decks are so bloated and busted you just die on turn 3 by "Slickshot", "Illuminator Virtuoso", "Picnic Ruiner" or "Imondane recruiter" and if its not that, you're just dead by a combo deck on turn 4 before you get to actually play magic its stupid. Unless you're playing a terrible deck which allows mtg arena's mmr matchmaking data to save you, this is all you're going to go up against. What we need is rotation that's why its been bumped up to Aug.
I didn't say that all these are not right. But together with all agro you described...this control full of removals ..swipers.....or the blue djinn deck with 16 counters....are so uninspired.....that rly make me throw up....! And i play mtg for more than 18 years....
Sounds like you’re just soft
I’m still enjoying jeskai control
oh cool, yet another UW control video! Sarcasm aside, please stop. This deck is so insufferable to watch
Obvious steal from Sonio....which by far is a better arena streamer since he never talks....hint hint
Worst take ever imho. I love hearing CGBs thoughts as he's playing.