How KR Challengers Use Naafiri
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lethality yorick walked so naafiri could run
Already nerfed
Who yorick or nefari?
@@ptahtao1950yorick
o7
Pretty much it really is just lethality yorick but better
The worst matchup for her is fiddlesticks. He just fears you if you try to W in, and he even gets more drain targets for healing back up, she's unplayable into him
+ Zhonya
@@feyfiren They're saying that fiddlesticks buys Zhonya's, making the match-up even worse
@@feyfirennice 1st grade reading comprehension buddy
@@feyfirenwell duh of course you build zhonya to counter the all in damage from fiddlesticks w and the pack of effigies, obviously
@@feyfirenL reply
The only thing that annoys me is that the dogs block skillshots, its rlly frustrating
yes it's broken af
To be fair, it's the only real defensive utility she has outside of her shield from ult and the tiny dash from E (which if you use E to dodge something you're most likely not using it for damage, so you lose out on damage potential)
Bard or zilean fcks her up because of the dogs.
You use skillshots? Get punished by riot
bro, that's the only defense utility she has, compare to other assasins it's nothing
Always remember about half of your damage comes from hitting both Q's. Naafiri does a deceiving amount of damage from a distance from an assassin and a lot of times people with just chase you down and get chunked by a few Q's allowing you to turn the fight around.
sick video, well explained. need more like this explaining the details of a champ.
Small correction, it's not the first kill that also provides a shield. Kills reset its ultimate effects so the next attack gives a shield again.
normal gameplay: 😴
korean gameplay: 🙀🤑🤑🤑
Chinese gameplay: 👽👽👽
Oceania gameplay:
Na gameplay: 0-20
@@prestonforman8112wdym?? Have you not heard of the taliyah prodigy from oce mr beast
Superserver and kr is just built different
Another interesting mechanic is that when you get enough CDR, you can combo Q2 into another Q1, since the bleed is still applied once Q comes up again.
I bet that'll get nerfed to where the Q CD only starts after Q2
@@santumi2298 Huh? All they would have to do is reduce the amount of time they can hit another Q.
I had a Naafiri dive me with W, kill me, and get out of the fountain unscathed because she had enough dogs to block like 4 fountain shots while doing that 🤑
THIS is the worst part. She can freely tank 7 tower shots at full passive and R it's ridiculous
@@gara8142 only fountain bro , tower will shot you normaly
i call bulshit. if she W's in, her dogs become untargetable and she will take the fountain focus.
If you are getting fucked like that, you wouldn't have won anyway
@maid_bacon2538 no, if you're under tower already and decide to dive, dogs will take agro first then after they die naafiri gets the agro, unless you use W or E which causes the dogs to be recalled, then it resets the agro back to naafiri
U are a work of perfection ty honestly
Very good tutorial love it
Started to play her recently and for me black cleaver and ser . . .whatever grudge is must, slow and armor shred is applied by both bleed and passive to it's rather permanent.
Also presence of mind is unlimited mana in lane.
Quinn is also good against Naafiri, her E is granted to interrupt Naafiri's dash and reset the distance (as long as the Quinn has some brains to save her E), making her a good ADC choice against Naafiri.
Eclipse is way better since it insta procs passive and shield to trade better. Also prowlers is pretty good for her dashes and black cleaver since it gives some tankiness, cdr which is really important and most importantly her dogs instantly proc 6 stacks on the enemy
i played too much arena i forgot summoner rift existed.. i felt happy lmao
Hi! Why u dont use precision on the secondary with spirit presence and coup de grace? In the electrocute build, I feel she need mana on earlys and maybe can use triumph for heals after a kill
Q2 does execute damage, so ideally its used after E
Think you would want to use the Q recast after spending all your damage because it deals more dmg based on missing health
but it also explodes the remaining bleeding, people dont expect the burst whether its quick or delayed a bit
I also agree with this. I like Q1 E auto W wind up as they walk away, auto Q2 personally.. this is an ALL in obviously…
But the Q2 procs the remaining bleed as bonus damage.. and deals damage based on missing Hp.. but the bonus damage from the bleed proc is dealt AFTER the missing health damage. So in theory.. I agree with the idea of letting the bleed tick them down while you full combo, and then Q2 at the end of your damage.. the missing health portion seems to be the part you’re looking for the most..
I’m not high elo.. I’m not an expert… just thinking on paper here…
Continue to discuss?
@@MiloThatch420 I think the point of the combo in this video is to not miss the Q2 (and also just to kill them in a shorter time, to eliminate the chance of shit happening). Weigh your risk/reward. If you can already burst the squishy by using Q2 early anyway then why risk missing Q2/take too long to kill them and shit happens and end up bad for you.
Just to put some numbers into context, let's assume the time between hitting Q1 and Q2 in this video's combo is around 2 seconds, that means you are missing out on 3 more second of bleed damage to increase your missing HP bonus damage. Let's say you have 200 bonus AD from items and runes, 3s bleed damage is 90+48% bonus AD (=186, if you are dealing true damage that is), and when you can have around 200 bonus AD (about 3 completed items plus other sources, that would be mid game, and levels maybe around 13-15) the squishy unit would have around 1800-1900 Max HP if they didn't buy any bonus HP items. This means the maximum extra bleed damage you will get if you wait out the remaining 3 seconds of bleed (which is an insanely long time tbh) is about 10% of the squishy's Max HP
So how much more damage will you get from this missing HP damage increase? that would be 10% more of the base Q2 damage (95+75% bonus AD), which would be 9.5+7.5% bonus AD (=24.5)
So, the question is, will you wait 3 more seconds to deal 24.5 more damage in your full combo?
And like you said if you add in an auto before Q2 to maximize that missing HP damage, you deal additional 282 damage by 1 auto (base AD is 82 at level 14), which is about 15% of the squishy's HP, this would further increase that missing HP bonus by 15% (=36.75), which makes a total of 61,25 bonus damage, if you wait out the full 5 seconds of bleed and did an auto before you Q2.
Note that all my calculations are in true damage, so in reality you would be dealing less. But also these calculation did not take into account the up to 20% bonus skill damage from dusk blade passive, which is very hard to estimate. They probably cancel out a bit.
I'm not sure how it will really be in the actual situation, also not sure if 61 damage would matter in this situation. But the numbers shouldn't be too far off. Just for a little bit of context.
(Though I'm sure in late game it wouldn't matter, your damage will overkill any squishy with full build)
@@victoralejandrotrimmerestr3672the bleed is done after the execute. The wait is high risk low reward
So the combo is basically qr -> wq with e for dodging/doing some more damage
really OP champs. 24 kills first game and i didnt even know her mechanic
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Thank you, have a nice day !
is that a 2/3 screen dash point and click with channeling time shorter than 1s?
Riot balance team are surely working hard.
I can recommend going more fighter playstyle with Stridebreaker or Goredrinker since those 2 works as well! and u still oneshot people with it!
As i can see this champ is actually balanced and smart designed. All in assasin that actually deals damage, but need to land q2 and with very little defense
The design is balanced, the champion currently isn't. The damage is just way too high, even after the hotfix. You can still 100-0 someone with basically no counter play at lvl 6, and after 2 items, she doesn't need to even land Q's anymore. The numbers are just beyond broken, I've never seen anything more broken in the game, and I've been playing since season 2.
@@Imnotbalding how have u not seen anything more broken b4
@@withoutone000 Mf forgot season 3 Kassadin where there was literally 0 counterplay back then. Or juggernaut release skarner where he had basically a total winrate of >60%
@@albertwesker3299 or oneshot galio Q
All in assassins are not a good design at all😂
for my experience, conq is extreamly potent on naafiri as she can stack it up super quickly and gives even better dueling power
Probably for bruisers enemy but her kit is more into bursts so I prefender Thunderlord or First Strike
She is not a duelist, she is an assassin...
@@rempaciousso cool hearing someone say that old name; it takes me back
Thunderlord’s
@@xenomorphegg4409 Ah yes
Like Assassins have never used Conqueror :>
@@xenomorphegg4409 And? Best Zeds in the world are using conqueror and he is an assassin.
CHAMP: 'Hi, my name is balanced.'
RIOT: ' Never heard of you.'
My first game against her, I was playing Kha'zix. I was even with her the whole game and sometimes even ahead but her kit just counters kha's whole kit. Nothing a cockroach can do against a pack of dogs.
basicly qyanna with a delayd auto q xD if you do combo right, depending where you want to position behind or infront of enemy ^^ pretty neat and prob easier to manage than qyanas combo
11:58
Naafiri dodging Trist ult with Duskblade but the doggos still got yeeted xD
Top lane with conqueror Goredrinker black cleaver and hullbreaker shreds tanks and towers, You don't technically need Hydra but it also instant clears waves. You're actually a split push menace with your dogs at your side, and nobody can 1v1 you
Yorick: Finally, a worthy opponent
That sounds like Yorick
Nice cooking bro
I've played quinn against naafiri and she got countered hard af. as soon as she W into me i just counter her with my vault (E) and then if she tries to fight back I'll just blind her and done she does nothing
Shhh secret counter
2 videos in a couple of days:0
Nocturne and Fiddlestick and Warwick seems like a logical counter to her
I use pred, ghost and hb, roaming build with pushing ability since her pack mates deal extra damage to towers from Hellbreakers passive
Naafiris design is pretty good to me
Its just her early numbers are too high
You can only win with Naafiri vs Ahri newbies. Ahri can just stay out of range and poke whilst for Naafiri her Q isn't fast enough to hit it twice, because a good Ahri will just ditch right away under her turret. The moment you use W she will charm you. Her Q can oneshot the pack.
What amnoys me about naafiri is that her packmates have the worst health bar communication in the game
What about W on Shen R if timed correctly?
I believe TP doesn't work, as that was hot fixed after worlds with that Akali thing.
lol 90% of what happened in the video is people just didn't expect her dmg, missed all the cc and squishies got ran over
which basically what every assassins can do
there are some times where she's CC'd and she still gets away rent free
@@Avasiaxx doesn't means that she always get away rent free does it?
Exactly ! For an AD assassin the champ is quite bad imo. The champion is items reliant so what does it mean ? Her kit is ok but items are too impactful right now. It's like we are not fighting champs anymore but we are fighting items and keystones (more or less, you get the idea) I mean yeah she can oneshot, so does Rengar since he exists, so does Talon, so does Kha'Zix. People saying she's broken are just lazy to learn how to play against her.
The passive is her defensive skill. And it's pretty strong to negate skillshots (which many times are the strongest abilities).
It's much more strongher than yasuo's passive...
Yasuo passive can block a decent amount of damage late game when you reset it with his ult. Also the bonus crit chance he gets is nothing to scoff at.
@@DestronGaming1213 sure, but it's much more difficult to apply than this one. Here you just got to turn back.
She counters some champs hard and others counter her hard too. That’s healthy
@@subyouwont i hope so. It would be a shame for riot to kill another champ near realize date
I dont recommend using w in close range your normal hit does more damage. Only use w to chase after opponent or run away to a minion that is behind
Currently grinding for rank 1 naafiri. I always prefer first strike over electrocute.Secondaries i go precision cause presence of mind makes you have no mana problems cause of q bleed. Only use electro if you cannot proc fs in lane. Always go ignite cause you need kill pressure to snowball. Skill order is q e w like in the video. Always build duskblade into edge of night. Edge of night makes you broken and its obvious why so i wont be explaining it. Serylda third into shojin 4th item. shojin synergyzes well with her ult and makes her have 3 second cooldowns on the dashes. last item is situational it can either be GA for survivability, Black cleaver for tanks, or a bruiser item like maw. You can also rush third item collector if youre turbo ahead but i dont recommend it cause it can throw your game.
For playstyle - always try to hit both q's. its crucial because you deal a fkton of dmg and you heal and sustain in lane. at lvl 4 you can kill a 40% hp target with full combo as long as you hit everything. Dont forget to farm for lower elos cause most assassins pre diamond just try to get more and more kills if they snowball and that ruins the game cause you fall behind in xp and gold heavily. Late game if you see an adc solo farm just run it down. Resets are very important, because if you engage and you cannot proc duskblade and ult-2 youre basically dead most of the times (not if you're full build and heal with 2 q's and wait for e to disengage but thats rare).
Thats all enjoy one tapping noobs and having fun with this bs op champ.
Also i always ban zed/xerath. zed is broken and overall counters you, while xerath is a long ranged artillary mage. If Irelia becomes meta on mid again that would be a good perma ban as well cause she can one tap your dogs with q, which heals her, gives her passive stacks and makes your damage almost zero.
I see alot of Eclipse build right now do you still stick with the same build ?
You and today on the super server using the same music got me so confused right now
JUST HOW TANKY IS THE DOG
10:39 yooow wtf is that wolfs block ☠️
playing her feels so weird because most of her damage relies on one ability (Q) that you still need to hit twice
Dobby, arguably the best LOL content creation out there.
Stealing plays and adding subtitles is the best content? Ima become rich!"
He adds subtitles to replays. You don't watch good lol content creators if this is "arguably the best"
The only counter to naafiri mid is juggernault mid or you could play mordekaiser she stand still a little bit while use q so easier to get grasp, after that either you flash or you're dead
Casting her Q doesn’t stop movement though. She is only stationary during W cast.
It's easy to slow her as sion since her minions can get pushed by your E
Her kit is very simillar to Elise in spider form
I understand that Naaifir's ult shield and passive are meant to be sort of her defensive abilities as she lacks one, but like, her base stats feel way too tanky anyways. Her damage I think is standard assassin stuff and things, but she's too tanky
thats like every new champ release ever, they will hopefully nerf her stats and dmg to the ground next patch
@@qirat.652nah leave her be. She's all damage and no utility
yes there is a set combo, the pet emote combo!
I love this champ because its just a better Yorixk lethality
conq+eclipse is also very good. Dogs stack conq up quick and eclipse gives you insane survivability with your ult
Naafiri don't have to care about survivability when anyone who even breathes in her screen range immediately dies to her
@@Aetolus not bruisers or tanks :P
@@Aetolusas a rengar player I eat dogs for breakfast except Warwick cuz he’s fukin op early
@@raekwonchambers2297 lmaoo
Dobby do you have any interesting non-meta jungle players in masters+ on your list?
I too am interested
packmates blocking abilities makes her a 200 year champ
Every character in the game with babies 🥸
my main (yasuo) is her natural counter, i can dash to her pack, so i can bait naafiri E to dodge tornado, my W blocks her main dmg (Q)
It looks like Irelia after Mdma overdose :X
what is the flash w chase counter play, not stand within a full screen of her ?😭
I feel like the kit is definitely fine, strong and able to snowball but the stats are too cranked up to the point where you kill people with just shoes
At least other bs champions need 6 and vampiric scepter…
@@chezux979 like Irelia and Aatrox? Suuuure
Qiyanna: first time?
Albeit qiyanna kinda needs to spam a bit in her defense ig
@@elpenguinoofmexico1388 Tbf Qyianna is a more mechanically difficult champion but that doesn't excuse her from being so stupidly strong
Yeah this video shows it. Champ is solo diving people who are 60% health at level 4 with a longsword and getting out alive. Pretty freaking nuts.
Another great patch to be an adc, especially with the galeforce nerf
Either you weren't with your team (mispositioned) or it didn't have enough peeling (bad teammates)
whole game is naafiri teabagging enemy kaisa
Laning against malzahar isnt fun. His E is always capable of killing your dogs at every step in the game. So he forces you to use your e otherwise you'll get hit with his e all day.
When the video start, showing fed guys made moves, and it showed like it's awsome, I pass
Youre the goat
Soooo… they used Naafiri by playing Naafiri. Fascinating
lookin like eve, nidalee, nocturne, elise combined
Also before anyone asks yes she can jungle just let her dogs do the tanking
hm that looks like it has a lot of counterplay to it.
Counter pick any champ with exhaust
is this pre or post nerf?
This was before Nerfs. You can't Shove with her like that anymore , Even lvl 9 You can't clear waves with 2 Q's . This guide is outdated and her build has changed to Brusier With Stridebreaker Beign valid and Even then You don't go dusk you go Eclispe.
Her damage is far lower now. and you need to stay alive you can't burst people like that anymore
So Im' not sure if hte hyper aggression works
Everybody talking about counters has never seen a naafiri veiger/nasus matchup they literally stack from doggos man
I've noticed the spike in popularity with Jayce. Could you make a video on him?
I will take a look !
@@LoLDobby love your content ❤️
Lately these champs feel like clones, altho I like naafiri, for me she's a lot like talon.
Panth is a hard counter too, cuz he can block ur all in and get half of ur hp at lvl 3 due to the high dmg it has
Tbh riot made a surprising balanced champ this time round. The Qs are really predictable, champ engages are also interrupted/dodged by many skills. Not to bad imo
@@Jadddddddddddddddddd She*
The point and click dash feels like an ultimate to me so annoying to play against this champion can’t wait for nerfs
She's definitely getting some nerfs, but not mechanics-related I think, esp to her W
Talon moment
Are you for real like there are so many counterplay against that. Firstly a teammate can get in between you secondly you can pull him to your tower or teammates since it has a loading time you got lots of time to think
Can the little doggie proc sheen effect?
No, they've treated like Yorick's ghouls not a auto attach or spell
probably not
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
im gonna main
I'm surpised i didnt see a person press W on a shen ult or a teleport
naafiri is such a good girl
she plays more like a bruiser than an assassin
Banned naafiri = fine naafiri
Its like eve but with more range.
It´s like Zed but the R is her W
In my eyes her Packmates aren't really for Damage, they are just there, so new players get hitten by skillshots less.
I love how Irelia is in almost all counters.
So, lets say you are an adc, how tf are u supposed to survive or outplay the puppy?
And last, does the attack-move target the champ or the little dogs?
I think there's a function in the game that allows you to target champions only
She is very reliant on getting a kill so if you play with team and cc her (since when she engages she loser her dogs for a moment) she is 1 shot
Depends on your settings and where you click. It targets the closest enemy unless you set it to target the enemy closest to the cursor
Basically free kill whenever naafiri ganks bot lane
Your team mates can block her w which is her main engage
So it's a better talon huh. That long range poke + sustain is disgusting
so its a furry talon? Nice.
I didn't know Koreans could do such things! Amazing!
assasin for the handicapped
Cope
Nah thats blue kayn
Dude no this has no survivability its kayn
@@michska53 hw are u an organism capable of writing?
Try conqueror with Goredrinker, Black Cleaver and Serylda, thank me later
0:04 this is what all ahri players deserve
I don't think a point and click dash directly to a target with such a long range is balanced. Should be a skill shot like vex ult, Vi Q, ammu Q, Lee Sins Q, Akalis E, Leona's E, Nauts Q, Thresh's Q etc etc. There's no counter play.
U can bodyblock it
She kind of plays like talon with a longer range dashb
Please dobby you missed the most broken part I swear
Her ult cd starts when you first cast it an is extended by the full length after a take down when you take new axiom arc into her build an I have play tested this in about 15+ games, your ultimate comes off cool down before the duration ends an can be casted a second time after you have killed 2 enemy's after 16 with ultimate hunter stacked, your in your ultimate form as much as belveth.......
Nerf in next month. 😂
i kinda hate how this champion can proc all the black cleaver stacks in a single button press, and a lot more than this
how to make talon obsolete speedrun
Anyone who says champs are fair and balanced when they are released does not understand riots business model. Riot makes more money by releasing overpowered champs so people will buy the champ and the skins for the champ, than a month later they do the actual balance nerf of the champ once they have profited off of it. This model can be seen on every champ released over the past couple years, and even some of the champ reworks as a new skin gets dropped with the rework.
maybe an alternative viewpoint: if riot doesn't release champs strong / overpowered people will try the champ, find it not fun / useful and just ignore it to play whatever they played before; if you release them strong you get at least some people hooked on the kit and get a more consistent playrate longterm
anybody know the song at 9:33 and 9:42?
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