MOZA Essenza SCV12 Review - When a Replica GOES TOO FAR?

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  • Опубликовано: 14 дек 2024

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  • @steviemac350
    @steviemac350 Месяц назад +27

    The real question is:
    On setting 12, how bloody fast do the wipers go?

  • @Sean-ps3ec
    @Sean-ps3ec Месяц назад +38

    It's a flagship "Hey, look at what we can do" wheel and wont be their top seller. People who buy it will buy it because it is a one to one and they LOVE Lambos. I think it's a beautiful wheel and while its a great looking replica of a real wheel... The lack of backlighting in todays market is a no for me. I race a lot at night and in the dark. Back lighting is essential

    • @vaibuscala6441
      @vaibuscala6441 Месяц назад +2

      just like the simlab mercedes f1 wheel or even fanatec bmw

    • @RukaGoldheart
      @RukaGoldheart Месяц назад +2

      Damn bro, if a non essential feature like rbg becomes essential, you've a got real problem on where you set up your rig.

    • @awakeandwatching953
      @awakeandwatching953 Месяц назад

      @@RukaGoldheart which is why almost all mid range and up wheels include back lighting lol.. even my gt neo has it and dont forget the telemetry use.. not that i can see any of it as i race in vr lol

  • @mementomori4972
    @mementomori4972 Месяц назад +28

    Thank you for being honest and having some integrity. Literally no one else talked about the shifters not being magnetic and the cheap thumb encoders. Everybody is praising the wheel. You also seem to be one of the few, who doesn't have an affiliate link, which explains a lot.

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  Месяц назад +14

      Thank you, we have an affiliate link and we also had sponsored articles and videos (they are then clearly labeled) - but anything that is a review won't be paid and we will always share our honest and balanced impressions. -Michel

    • @supercededman
      @supercededman Месяц назад

      THIS, x 100%

  • @ProjectSimRacing
    @ProjectSimRacing Месяц назад +6

    Thanks for the review mate! 🙌

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  Месяц назад +1

      Cool to see you here, awesome videos! -Michel

    • @ProjectSimRacing
      @ProjectSimRacing Месяц назад

      @@OverTake_gg I watch almost all your videos mate😊 Thanks the same!

  • @O-Friendly
    @O-Friendly Месяц назад +7

    People find anything to complain about. If there was a white lint ball on the outer packaging, there would be some complaint that it isn't original because the original product is black, lol.

    • @Lessenjr
      @Lessenjr Месяц назад

      Complaining about people having an opinion. Cute.

    • @supercededman
      @supercededman Месяц назад +2

      @@Lessenjr Nah, it's obviously a tongue-in-cheek OBSERVATION. An accurate one at that, ha ha.

    • @automaton450
      @automaton450 Месяц назад +2

      ALL the clickbait, "have to take a contrary position to set us apart" and generate controversy in the comments is because MOZA dared to make a replica an ACTUAL replica! BIG downvote! Channel is heading toward an unsub for me.

  • @ddoroslovac
    @ddoroslovac Месяц назад +8

    The wheel looks incredible

  • @Gizfreek
    @Gizfreek Месяц назад +9

    No magnetic shifters and no clutch paddles for 1300€? Saying it's a replica is one kind to justify it's lack of features but in a very competitive segment for high end wheels I don't think many would go for this if they are not ones who adore Lamborghini or simply want to stay in the Moza ecosystem without any 3rd party wheels.

    • @drconflict629
      @drconflict629 Месяц назад +2

      Yeah complete insanity. No clue what moza is smoking.

    • @chrisnorrell7489
      @chrisnorrell7489 Месяц назад +4

      No funky switches either is a mistake

    • @Gizfreek
      @Gizfreek Месяц назад

      @@chrisnorrell7489 that too, IF they'd do a Fanatec and have the same wheel in the actual cars maybe that's kinda ok but for a replica they could also design the funky switch a way that matches the actual wheel without anyone complaining.

    • @ptcarino
      @ptcarino 20 дней назад

      @@Gizfreek why tf would they put clutch paddles or any of the features you mentioned that's not even in the original?
      If clutch paddles or magnetic shifters are what you're looking for then there are a lot of wheels out there that satisfies your needs. This wheel is most likely just a collector's item.

  • @tigerbalm666
    @tigerbalm666 Месяц назад

    I don't liek when a new model takes 1 step forward, but 2 steps back! I use the Moza R9 + GS wheel+Fanatec V3 pedals. I upgraded from R5 bundle.

  • @thatextraguy21
    @thatextraguy21 Месяц назад +1

    Different marketed target audience, different needs and wants. There should be a shift in feature priorities when making a sim wheel, even if it may differ in terms of aesthetics from what the wheel is based on.

  • @Azurantine81
    @Azurantine81 Месяц назад +6

    This wheel is clearly designed for specific people, I am not one of those people however and will take a pass.

  • @RomainWhatever
    @RomainWhatever Месяц назад +1

    It could be interesting to do a shootout between all wheels between 1500 and 2000€ when this and the bentley wheels will be out in the wild

  • @magil159
    @magil159 Месяц назад +4

    I still prefer wheels without screen as I see it useless. I have GSI X29 as it is very universal wheel in reasonable price, using dash screen where needed.

    • @mementomori4972
      @mementomori4972 Месяц назад +1

      Aha,...and what if you drive a car that has no dash, like for example F1 or LMP cars?

    • @Gizfreek
      @Gizfreek Месяц назад

      @@mementomori4972 I for one have a fixed dashboard I can use with every wheel I own which I also prefer as it sits above the wheel and not inside it

    • @Nick72c
      @Nick72c Месяц назад +2

      I can’t bring myself to buy a wheel with a screen when I race 100% in VR. Went with the GS over the FRS and respected Moza for providing both options. But good on them for continuing to offer a huge range and so much choice for their eco-system

    • @mementomori4972
      @mementomori4972 Месяц назад

      @@Gizfreek Yeah and then you have a dash in front of the screen, where usually wouldn't be a dash. Is it so difficult to wrap your head around the fact that not everybody likes that?

    • @magil159
      @magil159 Месяц назад +1

      @@Gizfreek I set fixed steering wheel in LMU :)

  • @Lmao_373
    @Lmao_373 Месяц назад +4

    Few issues with this replica in my opinion:
    It is rather Unpractical on most cars
    It is of a relatively unknown and very rare car so people don’t buy it because they see it Sundays on the race track
    You cannot find the car in any major sims unlike the McLaren GT3 and GT4, the BMW GT3 and GT4 and even the Bentley GT3 that is represented in ACC
    Replicas are always a balance between practicality and realism but it is very beneficial for that to pick a car that is represented in both the sim and real world a lot so people actually have a relationship to the history of the wheel. If your favourite driver is Rossi for example you’re more likely to buy the fanatec BMW GT3 wheel whereas if it’s James Baldwin you might buy one of the many McLaren wheel replicas. Anyways TLDR it isn’t the product itself it is the car that they chose to replicate from that’s the issue.

    • @yannwymann8796
      @yannwymann8796 Месяц назад +2

      Perhaps they know something we don t know about assetto corsa evo . And this car is a flagship of the game ? Or your are totally right. How knows

    • @Lmao_373
      @Lmao_373 Месяц назад

      @@yannwymann8796 maybe in that case the announcement would be timed a bit oddly though

    • @steviemac350
      @steviemac350 Месяц назад

      @@Lmao_373 it's a much nicer wheel than the official gt3 lambo wheel - I would say it will appeal to a much wider audience than the gt3 wheel

    • @awakeandwatching953
      @awakeandwatching953 Месяц назад

      @@yannwymann8796 that was my thought to.. maybe they are banking on ACEvo being massive and know the car is in the EA release but yeah agree with op on this

    • @awakeandwatching953
      @awakeandwatching953 Месяц назад

      @@Lmao_373 wasnt ACevo orignally planned for release around this time though?

  • @guigui70051
    @guigui70051 Месяц назад +1

    1400€ is what I spent for my whole setup PC included

  • @cbremer83
    @cbremer83 Месяц назад

    I think I will be sticking to my original plan, R12 w/ RS V2. Planning on ordering that after the new year.

    • @steviemac350
      @steviemac350 Месяц назад

      @@cbremer83 I've the R12 and ES - It's a great choice

  • @Nick_Kearney
    @Nick_Kearney Месяц назад +4

    I don't mind spending that type of money on a high end wheel. But I've yet to buy any of these high end replica or FIA Homologated wheels. I'm much more interested in wheels like GSI Hyper P1 with amazing functionality for that kind of price.

  • @Baum_Baum-uu8pe
    @Baum_Baum-uu8pe Месяц назад +3

    I think it is the same with the Mercedes F1 Wheel - it is a niche product but why THIS wheel and not a Lamborghini GT3 wheel?

    • @arg_9584
      @arg_9584 Месяц назад +1

      because the lambo wheel is the same as the audi gt3 wheel. Also, so they could charge a bit more, considering this is their first $1,000 pus wheel.

    • @Baum_Baum-uu8pe
      @Baum_Baum-uu8pe Месяц назад +1

      @@arg_9584 yeah that makes sense

    • @Lessenjr
      @Lessenjr Месяц назад +3

      Agreed. Authenticity over practicality. Cool wheel, but not a great value.

  • @Dasspapirfly
    @Dasspapirfly Месяц назад +1

    Looks kinda neat but not a layout I would be interested in using, not to mention that AFAIK you need to buy a special hub to run Moza wheels on 3rd party wheelbases and then I'd much rather have something that works natively with my system.

    • @marcushillerstrom25
      @marcushillerstrom25 Месяц назад

      Well, at least they have a hub and make it possible to use their wheels on other bases. Not everybody does that.

  • @Vortex001_MLG
    @Vortex001_MLG Месяц назад +1

    If there’s any way to get this working on a Fanatec wheelbase with a QR2, and the screen/telemetry/touch works, then I’m sold.
    I’ve always loved Squadra Corse, and I’ll do anything to get this working cross platform

    • @marcushillerstrom25
      @marcushillerstrom25 Месяц назад +1

      Just change the QR and get the moza hub.

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  Месяц назад +1

      That works! Moza Universal Hub 👍🏻 -Michel

    • @supercededman
      @supercededman Месяц назад

      @@OverTake_gg I'm guessing it will also work with the new Logitech universal hub.

  • @supercededman
    @supercededman Месяц назад

    Lovely LOOKING wheel - gorgeous, in fact. Let down by all the criticisms you made, but I think Moza will release a more sim-friendly version, ultimately. This will sell like hotcakes to those who want a true replica.
    The wheel which really grabs my attention is the new Fanatec Porsche VGT. Gorgeous-looking, and with the new ownership they will finally have sorted the major hurdles to Fanatec ownership: after-sales and supply.

  • @petezzzz
    @petezzzz Месяц назад +1

    My G27 kicks this things a$$

  • @deloford
    @deloford Месяц назад

    That is a lot of money, I'd expect some more features for this price range, regardless of how close it is to the real thing.

  • @turboschnecke9533
    @turboschnecke9533 Месяц назад

    Not sure if this wheel make sense as addition to my Grid 911 RSR Wheel but it look very nice

  • @yungdadi
    @yungdadi Месяц назад

    Where there is a market, a customer base for more premium products emerge

  • @Motod94
    @Motod94 Месяц назад +1

    4:16 what sim is this?

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  Месяц назад +1

      Its Forza Motorsport, the only "sim" that has this car. -Michel

  • @damiengvideos4337
    @damiengvideos4337 Месяц назад

    I am interested in this wheel, it's 310mm and looks super cool. We don't have many options in the 310mm range. Plenty at 295-300 but I prefer 310. The Fanatec BMW M4 GT3 and Fanatec Bently wheels are 310 but the BMW is just ugly and the Bently is even more...not to mention Moza makes it easy to use their wheels on my Simucube 2 Pro with their inexpensive hub. This wheel or the Vision GS?

  • @automaton450
    @automaton450 Месяц назад

    Executive version: "This replica wheel could have been SO much better if it was not a replica." WTF!

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  Месяц назад

      Yes kinda, but keep in mind MOZA says this in their press release: "This sim-racing enhanced replica of the Automobili Lamborghini’s Essenza SCV12 Steering Wheel promises an immersive and realistic driving experience for sim-racing enthusiasts worldwide." So it's fair to judge the product by the term "sim-racing enhanced replica" and not only "replica" from my perspective. A Sim Racing enhancement are at least Dual Clutch paddles and joysticks / 7-way switches.

  • @soca268
    @soca268 Месяц назад +3

    🤔 only meant for eye candy, not for Sim Racing?

  • @topcarcare_sim
    @topcarcare_sim Месяц назад

    so cool

  • @drconflict629
    @drconflict629 Месяц назад +1

    They lock these expensive wheels in their mediocre ecosystem and don't even give the end user the option to use it with Lovely Dashboard and simhub. Complete insanity!

  • @jackmakackov7077
    @jackmakackov7077 Месяц назад

    Its over $1400 on their website FYI

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  Месяц назад

      Where are you located? Maybe tax is included. It's 1,299.00 $ when I look it up. -Michel

  • @slackface1
    @slackface1 Месяц назад

    😅not for me. Why can't they make FSR v2.

  • @nickiphorosn
    @nickiphorosn Месяц назад +1

    MOZA Who? 🤣🤣🤣

  • @tehsimo
    @tehsimo Месяц назад

    WHY is it so deep vs the other wheels, that makes it a pain to get your seating position right.

  • @wangoh-uo1gn
    @wangoh-uo1gn Месяц назад +4

    After getting the FSR and their poor support for their underwhelming dashes, never again, MOZA. They have basically ignored their customers who invested into the FSR wheel.
    They also made way too many concessions on this wheel and if the screen still doesn’t work with simHUB by now, it’s not worth the price.

  • @underSTATEDexcellence
    @underSTATEDexcellence Месяц назад

    Asetek releases the Invicta wheel at $1200 fully kitted at $1500 and Fanatec sh!t the bed with their $2k Bentley wheel. Fanatec is really trying to push us away. But I won’t go Moza.

  • @vanishingpointracing.2199
    @vanishingpointracing.2199 Месяц назад

    Moza should have made a GT3 rep. Can’t see many people buying and using this.

    • @steviemac350
      @steviemac350 Месяц назад

      @@vanishingpointracing.2199 the gt3 rep is ugly asf

    • @vanishingpointracing.2199
      @vanishingpointracing.2199 Месяц назад

      Didn’t think MOZA did a GT3 replica wheel ??

    • @steviemac350
      @steviemac350 Месяц назад

      @@vanishingpointracing.2199 they don't. I'm talking about the irl version. Out of all current gt3 cars, it has to be the worst (in my opinion)

  • @elbastron
    @elbastron Месяц назад

    I feel that Moza is going down the wrong route. Surely everyone blasts out some VERY expensive wheels these days but many of them are more feature-rich and that said, this is not the premium wheel that Moza or their customers need. Certainly this is a replica and it's very similar to the real deal, but no LED-lit buttons, no joysticks, no magnetic shifters, no simhub integration, [...] This will really only be attractive to very few Lamborghini fans. I also really wonder why Moza didn't really exhibit anything on the Expo and it feels a bit as if competitors are slighty gaining an edge over Moza.

  • @noahdrew9259
    @noahdrew9259 Месяц назад

    This wheel is targeted at someone like me. I’m into full replica wheels, I find them to be a good connection to reality. I think to the people who are complaining about the wheel and how it doesn’t accommodate for your simracing needs, I think that your better off just buying a wheel that has all the funky switches and stickers labeled for simracing. There’s nothing wrong with these types of wheels and no need to complain about them. Yes there built for a targeted audience, so they are going to not have all the “required” simracing needs

    • @supercededman
      @supercededman Месяц назад +1

      Exactly. I'm a basic user (Logitech G Pro with standard wheel, but LOVING it), but absolutely understand the attraction of these replica wheels. Won't be there biggest seller, but wheels like this are halo wheels, and I think every major manufacturer will consider going down this route. Bring it on!

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  Месяц назад +2

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts, quite insightful, thx! -Michel

  • @gaminginstilllife9429
    @gaminginstilllife9429 Месяц назад

    i want a wheel for VR, something nicer than the KS wheel and with easy to get too buttons and better grips

    • @asSIMuNation
      @asSIMuNation Месяц назад

      @@gaminginstilllife9429 it's called GT Neo. Simagic GT Neo

    • @DaTruthHeals
      @DaTruthHeals Месяц назад +1

      The GT Neo is a nice step up and the same price as the KS

    • @supercededman
      @supercededman Месяц назад

      Yep, for VR users button tactility and placement are the main considerations. When I first got my VR I had just transitioned from a DD Pro. Cheap-LOOKING wheel, but the dedicated buttons were a godsend. I now have a Logitech G Pro. Better wheel, IMO, but for VR the button placement on the DD Pro is superior.

    • @HDRGamingHub
      @HDRGamingHub Месяц назад

      Ascher Racing Mclaren Artura Pro

    • @gaminginstilllife9429
      @gaminginstilllife9429 Месяц назад

      A moza wheel, like the porche fanatec wheel

  • @hoot9612
    @hoot9612 Месяц назад +11

    1300 bucks... No thank you. Collector's wheel.

    • @ParrotTheBird
      @ParrotTheBird Месяц назад +2

      your right but fanatec bentley and bmw and surely the porsche are way more expensive especially the porsche could be triple the price BUT i also won’t consider buying the wheel

    • @lxsixtyfortyxl1583
      @lxsixtyfortyxl1583 Месяц назад +2

      I think they said the Porsche was a CSL version so really curious about the price

    • @MattOLC
      @MattOLC Месяц назад +2

      The Porsche Vision GT wheel will be a CSL Elite range wheel. So you can expect good value.

    • @hoot9612
      @hoot9612 Месяц назад +2

      @@ParrotTheBird well I can't justify the price for this wheel as a sim wheel due to its other flaws. It lacks buttons, encoders, funky switches, double-clutch. And it's too heavy. So I think it's useless as a simracing wheel. Besides, making a replica of the wheel of the car that you can't actually drive in any sim - well it clearly is just a marketing move. The car isn't even a racing car but a track-day car for a bunch of wealthy dudes.

    • @ParrotTheBird
      @ParrotTheBird Месяц назад +2

      @@hoot9612 yep your absolutely right

  • @davidv.2559
    @davidv.2559 Месяц назад +1

    Too expensive. Moza needs to go back to ks line. Great wheels for a great price.

  • @zerobandwidth
    @zerobandwidth Месяц назад

    So... in essence, this wheel is to sim racing wheels in general as the real-life Essenza is to real-life cars.
    That is, a beautiful, functional, totally-bonkers-expensive luxury item for only the purest aficionados.
    There's... actually nothing wrong with that. 🤷

  • @aledmb
    @aledmb Месяц назад

    in 2024, having a wheel without one stick at least is a crime... whoever buys this will regret it.

  • @virtualmotorheads
    @virtualmotorheads Месяц назад

    Yup...I am going to give this a strong pass. Beautiful wheel, but for that kind of money...just to have a Lamborghini badge on there. Your concerns is well noted.

  • @tigerbalm666
    @tigerbalm666 Месяц назад

    I would cost 50 cents to add magnets for shifters...WTF?

  • @vandrayketv1316
    @vandrayketv1316 Месяц назад

    It can’t miss any features because it’s a replica. If it’s not on the real thing it won’t be on the replica that’s the whole point

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  Месяц назад +1

      True, but you saw that some flaws were also hiding on other parts and in the software.

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  Месяц назад +1

      And just to make that clear, they market the wheel as a sim racing enhanced replica. So you could expect some more features:) -Michel

  • @chrisnorrell7489
    @chrisnorrell7489 Месяц назад

    I don't see any funky switches. That's a miss

  • @optiononemarketing
    @optiononemarketing Месяц назад +2

    No clutch, no thanks. Great review though, keep up the good work.

    • @V-Racing
      @V-Racing Месяц назад +3

      Its a replica, that's why it doesn't have clutches

    • @StevePhoenix
      @StevePhoenix Месяц назад

      The vast majority of real life race cars don't have clutch paddles either. If you truly want to call yourself a sim racer, you should only be using clutch paddles when driving cars that actually have them. The SCV12 isn't one of them.

  • @MrBlingclean
    @MrBlingclean Месяц назад

    As a sim racer you should aspire to be close to reality as possible not Turing what is a real product to what sim racing is. It's almost like you are saying real steering wheels should aspire to be more like simracing

    • @OverTake_gg
      @OverTake_gg  Месяц назад

      I get your point, but the application is just different. On a pc or console you have a different demand about what buttons and switches have to do than in a real car. Of course you can also run a wheel without any buttons to enjoy pure driving in your simulator. So it is either purism or something that adds comfort and features. -Michel

  • @FlameBot
    @FlameBot Месяц назад

    No clutch. No RGB button backlight. No pinky switch. No usefull button tags (12 wiper positions???). No buy.

  • @nolinohesi3395
    @nolinohesi3395 Месяц назад

    Far too pricey. I'll take the 400$ gt wheel. Got an r9 with the cs wheel to start. Will defo buy crp2s befor i buy a new rim

  • @Salustmaio
    @Salustmaio Месяц назад

    I didnt like moza because it feels a copy cat of fanatec, but iam changing my opinion, it is ps5 ready?

    • @DaTruthHeals
      @DaTruthHeals Месяц назад

      I'm on moza right now but will be going with fanatec or simagic for my motion/haptic rig. Moza is great for casual racing but I want more immersion.

    • @Salustmaio
      @Salustmaio Месяц назад

      @@DaTruthHeals it is a big mistake haptic rig, maybe some litle vibration on the seat, more than that in 1 week your back gona hurt, and eventually havr to stop playing with motion, and the regret hit them when you see it and think all the money spent for nothing

  • @LucidFX.
    @LucidFX. Месяц назад

    Its a game guys, you certainly don't need that. Lol do we want it.. maybe, but no, will never buy it 😅

  • @asSIMuNation
    @asSIMuNation Месяц назад

    😂😂

  • @debozebever
    @debozebever Месяц назад +4

    Yet still, the MOZA brand feels cheap Chinese, although they are trying their best.
    Edit: their stuff nowadays is good, but their perception of their brand is still lacking by many!

    • @joeygarcia7468
      @joeygarcia7468 Месяц назад +3

      @@debozebever nothing about this wheel (or most any moza product these days) says cheap Chinese. You just associate anything Chinese
      With cheapness

    • @AdzzVR
      @AdzzVR Месяц назад +1

      Do you own any Moza products?

    • @debozebever
      @debozebever Месяц назад

      Guys! Relax! I do own moza and I like it a lot! Just saying that their branding and image is still ‘the Chinese bloke in simracing’.
      Hopefully thuis Wheel changes the perception of many tho!

  • @BA-rh5hy
    @BA-rh5hy Месяц назад +2

    Nice wheel but seriously, these wheels are getting too expensive. Bring back the $200 McLaren wheel or the $300 bmw wheel .... Give us something tangible lol. Nice review.

    • @mementomori4972
      @mementomori4972 Месяц назад

      There are more than enough options in this price rage out there,...even from Moza, so what exactly are you complaining about?

    • @BA-rh5hy
      @BA-rh5hy Месяц назад +1

      @@mementomori4972 what do you care?

    • @mementomori4972
      @mementomori4972 Месяц назад

      @@BA-rh5hy Probably for the same reason you care.

  • @happygster922
    @happygster922 Месяц назад

    Replica wheels are just stupid.

  • @HomeCinemaJunkie
    @HomeCinemaJunkie Месяц назад +3

    For a chinese wheel, it is way too expensive...

    • @bojansimic4251
      @bojansimic4251 Месяц назад +4

      What is this supposed to mean? 😂

    • @RATTMAN
      @RATTMAN Месяц назад

      @@bojansimic4251Chinese direct products are traditionally cheaper because of the cheaper cost of labor and mass manufacturing methods. Also usually less to no middle men to inflate pricing.

    • @HomeCinemaJunkie
      @HomeCinemaJunkie Месяц назад

      It means what I said.🙄

    • @MF_Henri
      @MF_Henri Месяц назад +1

      @@bojansimic4251 it means that he thinks the Chinese can't make premium products I guess

    • @HomeCinemaJunkie
      @HomeCinemaJunkie Месяц назад

      I think you all missunderstand me. Why should I choose a Chinese brand which is allmost as expensive as an European brand i.e.? It's like all these ppl buying a more expensive Chinese car instead of a European and at the same time not understanding the consequences.