I'm so tired of coward writers shielding themselves with so much irony, lampshading and metacommentary that it makes their work exhaustive to even critique
"I'm a much more three-dimensional character. Watch as I make the same ironic, self aware metajoke that is totally something I would say and not just the writers awkwardly trying to dunk on internet trolls." Uncle Grandpa died for this.
*"Yeah, I like solving mysteries, but I'm much more complex than that" Like dudes, is it that hard to write dialogue actual people would fucking say. Why are contemporary writers so bad?
The easiest way to write a three-dimensional character is to just have them say it aloud. Just like the easiest way to write a funny character is to have their friends tell them they're funny. Because apparently writers think that putting a mannequin in front of me with "Complex" written on it is convincing.
I like that the writing is so inept, that they didn't even create a dumb 'punching bag' character to spout the meta, ironic hate-speech. Their version of Velma is apparently the kind of horrible person that sends death threats over creative decisions. Neat! I hate it.
It feels really out of character too, if they wanted to make a statement about it they could have made someone else that character (maybe the villain of one of the episodes or something)
@@chonchjohnch I only beat my wife ironically. I'm not like one of those people who *actually* beat their wives. Some people just don't understand irony.
"So, in our show, we constantly Stick it to the trolls and make fun of the internet and watch the good reviews come in from critics who like our show to spite those internet people." "Okay... what's the show's plot?" "Plot?"
"It's a show about nothing." "Oh, it's like a mix between Scooby-Doo and Seinfeld. Odd, but it could work." "No, we meant literally nothing. We didn't really have a story for this one. We're just bullshitting here."
I sincerely hope more people get into and appreciate classic films from the 40's-60's. Yes, there was censorship, but it forced writers to be creative when it came to skirting overt censors. There was a time when people spoke THROUGH dialogue and where subtext was king. This. This era is just chock full of verbal diarrhea where there's no such thing as subtlety anymore. Just say exactly what you're thinking or conveying and let it stick on the audience.
I think what gets me angriest is that, at it's core, Velma is a smart character. She wouldn't just completely ignore that someone said they were inside her house, she would take that seriously, and find a way to defend herself or (more likely) escape the area. She is quite nerdy at times too, yes, but she isn't going to send an email to a place hoping they died and going "well at least they didn't change judy's skin color". it's like they didn't understand the first thing about her, even despite the "I'm much more three dimensional than that" comment.
@@joshraid1550 actually that is really funny and doesnt make sense either, how are you supposed to like a character when the 1st things they do on camera is send death threats and be racist, even if its a joke were not ganna get emotionally attached to the character, dang these writers suck.
*_"What made Scooby-Doo a kid show is Scooby-Doo. We couldn’t have a take on it, like how can we do this in a fun and modern way. [Our efforts] coincided with Warner Bros. Animation saying we can’t use the dog!”_* -The showrunner Because when I watch a Scooby-Doo show or movie, I think "This is nice, but it could be better without that mangy mutt." Man, this show is going to suck.
*"-and the show would have been better without those meddling cishet white kids and that iconic/beloved title character!"* - Far-Left, mentally ill, ideological sycophant, writers who spend most of their time arguing on twitter, and going out of their way to spite/offend old people, as a pathetic form of self-validation, because their identity is contingent on rebelling, opposing, deconstructing, swapping, and shaming; rather than building/creating anything of real value, wit, or originality.
To be fair, I did think that about the first live-action Scooby Doo movie. (But hey, at least it started Matthew Lillard as a great new Shaggy for voice work too)
scooby is a pretty realistic dog, though, all he does special is talk. he usually walks on all 4s and acts like a dog. if they just have him bark instead of talk it won't mess with any of the writing.
The “3-dimensional” line strikes me as evidence that the writers aren’t all that familiar with recent Scooby-Doo media, and so they’re going to remove ALL of Velma’s personality and characteristics and replace them with dumb, meta bullshit in order to “fix” her
@@TrueGamer22887 oh my god you’re so right. Velma has always had depth to her and been a hilarious character on her own. I hate what they did with her here
I love when they make a new show/movie of an existing property and insult the would-be fans. Then they wonder why the show gets cancelled after a season or two.
@@TrueGamer22887 ... "Don't play our game" - Battlefield dev "Don't read our comics" - comic writer that wrote Snowflake and Safe Space comics "Star Wars fans are bad people" - Mark Hamill "Canon is bad and we should destroy it" - Esquire, to defend Rings of Power and the stupid Star Trek series.
@@murderalphabetinc.5162 Well I have heard nobody hates Star Wars fans like other Star War fans. But come on dude, are you seriously defending those stupid anti-woke channels? More times than not their predictions are wrong and their analysis are so surface-level they never bring up the real problems with these shows and movies.
@@rivera229 Mark Hamill hates Star Wars, not just Star Wars fans lol. And let me know when woke people produce anything that isn't based on "fuck you cracker".
@@murderalphabetinc.5162 That's the thing though, almost ANYBODY gets accused of being woke for doing something different. I remember people were calling the MCU woke when Captain Marvel was getting made. Like what in the world? These anti-woke losers are just looking for problems that don't exist at all. Not one of these anti-woke reviewers ever mentioned how the U.S. Air Force funded the hell out of Captain Marvel and used the movie to promote a recruitment drive. You know, the REAL problem. It's like that with everything, you guys try so hard to find a problem that you can get upset with, you miss out the real problems that is going on.
@@rivera229 Captain Marvel is woke as hell and I hope they cure your encephalitis because you're clearly suffering some brain damage. What was the reason the studio gave for all criticism for Captain Marvel's really weak writing, character development, and cringey dialogue? Oh, right, "the movie isn't made for white men"...
And this is the man who watched pretty much every Dhar Mann video one after the other until the YMS Highlights audience couldn't take any more, while he laughed the whole time. Even he was struck dumb by this.
Velma Trailer: We're making fun of people who don't like that we changed Velma's race. Me: Okay, but what's the actual show about? Velma Trailer: People who don't like shows changing are dumb: Me: I guess, now what's the main premise of your show? Velma Trailer: Velma is totally 3 dimensional now. Me: Just tell me what happens in the show already!!!!
@@DDarkestKnight not this bad tho, Mindy Cohn sounded fine as Velma without making it grading (For context I'm talking about the Lesbian Velma clip and not Mindy Kaling's Velma, her's sounds good imo)
@@Luna-Fox I don't know what your case is but Kate Micucci is as close Mindy Cohn's Velma as Frank Welker is to Don Messick's Scooby. At the end they all sound like Velma
You can tell this wanted to be Venture Bros. but was 2 decades late to the party, has only contempt for the original source material, and doesn't wanna bother creating characters that stand on their own.
To be fair, and based on suspicion, the showrunners did want to make their own shitty adult animation, but Warner forced the Scooby IP on to them because money. I'm certain the show will end up with more hate-watchers than whatever minuscule audience it would have got if it was just the original idea of some unrelated cartoon detective comedy show.
@@user-lb9xw4xf2q "based on suspicion" also can't wait for this show to get a season 2 like the rest of the shows that preyed on hate watchers. Oh wait, they're dead, like a frog trying to lure in cats to eat.
4:00 I don't give a fuck about velma or anything, I'm just happy to learn that someone else thinks Gumball is one of the best animated shows of all time.
I was going to say the same thing. Since Adum mentioned it, I really hope they don't cancel the movie. It would be silly for them to axe off something that people are actually waiting for, only to push something almost nobody wants.
Don’t blame the artists. Have you paid attention to media consolidation & focus grouped everything & no-$-left-behind or massive financialization of film or any other trend in the enormous economic industry that is “entertainment” the past 2 decades? The 90s were the last time new artists were encouraged to tell original personal stories. I hate the IP-ization of everything too & that is part of why I watch YMS bc Adum calls out that stuff & makes efforts to find + reveal real soulfully made films in an era that is actively punishing anything that isn’t an EU IP they already own. Greed isn’t a constraint the art has to contend with anymore; it’s the alpha + omega these days. I hope it swings back to the point that calling people a sell-out isn’t a compliment. That whole “get your bag” thing needs to become personally disgusting to more people & we have to move on from worshiping any idiot criminal with significant money. I don’t think you should get to tell stories to + about real people if you’re in a moneybubble & you pay the only actual real people you know. It’s not just film; why do we have another Prey game that has no relationship with the first Prey? Massive inequality leads to bad behaviour & worse art.
Not to derail the conversation or anything but you just perfectly summed up my problems with Testament in GGST. As well as Arcsys's recent representation in general. "Hey guy, we're bringing back your fave characters from the old games, well apart from their design their personality their gender their motivation their general vibe their entire freaking moveset, all being completely different and unrecognizable, but hey they have the same name and a slightly similar color palatte, so close enough, just ignore the constant cases of characters misgenering their new gender as well thanks" Testament is definitely the worst case of it, but it's a problem across over aspects of Strive, and it doesn't help the immediate next character after Testament was Bridget, who they went completely against the message of the original story of and changed the characters gender when they were established for two decades of legacy being a crossdressing icon that had a message about not letting people force labels or gender onto you and being comfortable with being comfortable being a man in touch with your femmine side and not taking crap from people who misundidentify you or try to say you're not a real man for doing so. I love GuiltyGear, but I've been salty about the way they're treating the writing/characters. At least the game's fun to play...
Just based on the trailer, Velma feels like it only exists to stir the pot without actually providing the audience with anything substantial. Like, its sole purpose is just to piss people off and isn't all that concerned with standing on its own merits.
Because if the show gets people mad while ostensibly being about good things like LGBT and Minority representation (no matter how poorly written they or the story are), then people will jump to its defense over said concepts rather than the writing and validate the writers on their badly-written material. It's the same with things like the Ghostbustrs remake, where it took forever to get to talk about the film instead of the... controversial reaction to the marketing and recasting, but when the script and writing was critiqued it was a LOT harder to find defenses of the writing and comedy.
@@banditkeef3864 see that is true...very short term. Then they fail miserably. Just look at all of CWs DC shows, Batwoman especially that is their worst selling show
@@autumnlotus6250 I’ve watched some of the CW shows, believe me, skin change or liberal shit was far from the biggest problems of those shows, Shit budget while trying to do crazy special effects plus half assed writing killed the shows, but the channels like the quartering chose to focus on the “liberal agenda” so that was the more prevalent discussion on the shows. But even though the shows died, notice how much more people talked about batwoman instead of the arrow or flash, they know people will flip their shit over a race change/lib shit and it steers the conversation away from the writing and acting/direction.
I usually don't care about characters being race-swapped but the fact that Indian Velma is wearing the exact same clothes, has the exact same hair style and the exact same glasses gives me a very strange feeling of wrongness. I don't see this character and think "oh, Indian Velma", It comes across like an obsessive fan has successfully murdered and replaced the real one. I feel like making a few minor changes to her design, while still keeping her identifiably "Velma", would have helped
Exactly! Heaven forbid that the writers make original characters of color. Nope, just use the fill tool and make them darker. Job done! We've solved racial issues! As a black person I've felt icky about this and the little mermaid remake.
I don’t care about refreshing an IP character, any race/orientation swap is fine by me. I don’t question those aspects of shows if they place it in the world properly, even if the show itself spends time exploring the new characteristics, as long as it unfolds within the story. So it doesn’t bother me if Velma’s got Indian heritage or catches feelings for anyone. & I’m Canadian but all the Indian girls I went to school with basically dressed like any other kid unless something special was happening (I’m from the Canadian Cultural Mosaic generation so we had a lot of “learning about each other’s heritage” days & I unironically loved them) so tho I can see wanting more of a look update, I disagree it’s necessary or even desirable. The point is probably “why not Indian tho?” not “the Indian Velma” so it makes sense to keep her defined design. However I wish the writing was on the same page bc what is annoying & offputting is not giving her a f*cking story or personality. I will accept almost any story world or premise if the setup is there & the world is fully baked. But I hate that pseudo meta bs & goddam that sounded like she was reading off her own character card like if Scooby was MagicTG. & the audio seemed clear & fine but I wonder if the sound engineers could back off or soften whatever is making the performance sound like broken glass in my ears. Kaling has a voice that can be really pitchy but she can be mixed & mic-ed to allow her energetic performances without calling so much attention to how harsh her upper register sounds here. I hate it bc people will likely just be mad at her voice but this feels more like terrible dialogue + un-nuanced sound engineering (it sounds like when commercial audio was almost always set to be as loud & consonant-forward as possible with no other dimensionality added).
@@GuranPurin honestly, that sounds like a better premise for a show. It could be like an examination of what it's like to consume popular media as a minority member.
“You should never change anything ever” These writers know that’s not the case. They’ve said it themselves. They want to use popular characters to push their idealism.
I'm willing to bet that this Velma show wasn't even a Scooby Doo concept from its inception. Mindy Kaling probably went to WB with this self insert detective show, to which they suggested it be a Scooby Doo show since it will sell more. That could explain why Scooby isn't in the show, all the changes to the characters, and how its bitterness towards its critics is in full display (That stupid Scream-esque meta humour that kindly needs to sod off). Judging from the trailer and some of the stills online, the animation is well executed. The colour palette, lighting, character expression and movement sell me on the illusion; with it conveying its horror comedy tone to decent effect. Outside of that, this show just comes off as insecure, like a bad comedian who makes fun of his own jokes.
If anyone is curious why there is random swearing in the cartoon videos, is that so they're tagged as non-eligible for RUclips kids. This way, the comments aren't disabled.
At least with the Harley Quinn series it kinda makes sense for them to be extra meta and joke about their audience. (to the fact that they basically turned Harley into Deadpool in the last 10 or so years) what is this series trying to go for?! Is this what Velma "developed" into for the past 50 years?! or did they just ran out of ideas with her?!
I think that the difference is with that show, they obviously have a deep understanding of the DC universe and its characters. They can properly make meta commentary on them and subvert them appropriately because they understand what makes them tick. It also helps that in spite of the show being about Harley Quinn, it doesn't demonize everyone around her for the sake of a message. Batman, Gordon, Kite Man, even the Joker are all extremely flawed, but in the end are decent people just trying to do better. It's surprisingly earnest where it could've so easily been more cynical garbage.
Apparently the creators wanted to make an original show but WB forced them to slap the Scooby-Doo label on it when no one on the show even cares about or likes the IP.
Miles Morales is a good racebend because he's his own person. He's not _just_ black spiderman. He's not _just_ black Peter Parker. He's Miles Morales. He's his own person, with his own goals and struggles. The way he became spiderman is unique to him. He has his own personality, his own life. He isn't a recolour. They put effort into creating a new, interesting character. THAT'S representation. EDIT because words are hard for some people: I called Miles a racebend because he isn't one. It was irony. EDIT because if one more self-righteous redditor tries to get in my face because I overestimated this community's ability to "read between the lines", I will make comic nerds an oppressed minority: I don't care if you like Miles Morales as a character. I am not commenting on his quality as a character. I am not saying Miles Morales is perfect representation. You would think I was very obviously saying "PUTTING EFFORT INTO A NEW CHARACTER IS BETTER REPRESENTATION THAN COLOUR-SWAPPING AN EXISTING ONE" is what I am praising, but apparently that very clear statement is too difficult to understand.
@@soapbiter36577 uh...what about him didn't start off as his own character with his own storylines? I'm looking at the details of his introduction and beginning storyline and while there are similarities to Parker (nerdy kid gets bit by spider that gives him powers and he also has an uncle thats important to him), the details are pretty different (Miles got bit at his uncle's, not a museum, and the uncle is a criminal who later gets killed by Miles).
@@PointsofData When you listed these things out did you not feel like you were describing retreading a lot of the same ground with some details switched around?
Yes. They pitched this as an original show but had to dress it up as a Scooby-Doo IP to get greenlit. That's why they're not even bothering including Scooby. No one on this show likes or cares about Scooby-Doo.
Remember Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law? That was a fun satire using the old Hanna-Barbera characters; even made them out of character a lot of the time, but made up for it by being actually funny. It helped that it had a great cast too, with career animation VAs and comedians, whereas this show is a bunch of 20-something randoms.
For those who are curious, the uploader adds the swear words to their videos so it doesn't get marked as "for kids" by RUclips and suppressed by the algorithm.
So yeah that RUclips channel, they post a lot of cartoon clips and they put in that cursing sound bite at the end so RUclips doesn't claim it as just for kids lol
This one's gimmick is that it will deal with murder mysteries (I think) and mainly that every character is a stunt cast matching their voice actor. Daphne is Asian, Shaggy is black and voiced by that guy from I Think You Should Leave's Buff Boys and Baby of the Year sketches. Fred is voiced by Glen Howerton, Dennis from Always Sunny.
Can´t we just use the entire "It´s always sunny" cast and rewrite the story to be closer to "It´s always sunny" and to save on budget we could make it life action. I´m still working on the name tho...
we need more media that actually stands up for themselves and doesn't constantly spit out self deprecating jokes like in a horror movie where they go "Werewolves?! is this some kind of horror movie?" as the actors look at the camera with a smirk like just fucking have a moment where the movie cares about itself and go "oh my god werewolves we need to fucking run"
I’ve always been a fan of Velma’s character. People would bully me and call me “Velma” and I took it with pride. I watched Mystery Inc and I liked that Velma had lesbian undertones, it made me feel represented. Then I saw… this. And all I feel is disappointed. :/ not because of the lesbian thing (or lack thereof) but because they make her character so… boring. I like the other “gay” Velma, I just hope they flesh out her character more than just “lesbian nerd”.
The character synopsis doesn't even read as if it's a Scooby-Doo IP, it seems like they threw darts at a wall with a couple dozen buzzwords and tried to make a show about it. "At Crystal Cove High School, Daphne (Constance Wu) is a popular mean girl orphan who deals drugs because of a dark family secret. Her boyfriend Fred (Glenn Howerton) personifies mediocre white richness. His mansion holds a dark secret - and he has teeny widdle privates, a subject of much conversation. "Shaggy" has become Norville (Sam Richardson), a school-newspaper striver friendzoned by his beloved Velma. He worries he's a beta male; remember that lame humor concept from 20 years ago?"
Haha it’s funny cause they’re addressing the criticism and self-aware haha isn’t that clever aren’t we clever please think we’re funny please watch our show
People behind this want to make a "woke" show, know it won't go anywhere unless it's attached to an existing IP, proceed to bastardize the IP and actively attack the fanbase, then cry when the show flops over how "bigoted" the fans were and how they were to blame over the show's failure instead of their own awful decisions, bad writing, and alienation of their fans.
I think Mindy Kaling's voice really suits the character of Velma. She's a decent pick for this. It's a shame they chose to spotlight this weird, cringy scene instead of the relevant story. Unless this is the story? Velma gets angry online? That'd kinda suck.
To me it always looked like Velma was the stereotypical "nerdy" girl, I've never gotten the impression that she was lesbian, in the original show there are multiple episodes were she's get crushes on male characters... Also I do not understand the race swap, why there's no Mystery Team nor Scooby (you know, the TITULAR character of the franchise!!!), If you want to change everything about an IP you might as well create a new show altogether, one one , this seems just an attempt to piss up fans to have some free publicity...
She had some lesbian undertones and a pseudo-girlfriend in Mystery Incorporated, and I think it worked well in that show, but yeah, this version just seems to be a total mess.
@@theonegoldengryphon Mistery Incorporated, the 2010's one? ...I've haven't watched that one (I'm more of a fan of the old show), even then, they should at least make her bi-sexual as to not contradict previously established canon...
The Scooby Doo franchise has been remade and revamped dozens of times since the 70s. Fleshing out the characters and shaking up the original show's predictable formula isn't new or shocking at this point. Hell, the live action movies already tackled the self-aware angle twenty years ago. And instead of showing us why this might still be worth watching despite all of that, the creators got high off their own farts for a minute and thirty seconds and called it a teaser.
Saw it and I like it so far. The characters have some nice changes. The humor is somewhat funny. The writing is good. The acting is phenomenal, especially the protagonist herself. The music is phenomenal. It was great! I’m happy Wednesday got the spin off she deserves. Can’t wait to see Season 2 soon.
Her design just looks like Velma wearing blackface. Do they not realise this? She pulled a Trudeau fr 6:56 they do that to prevent the video from being claimed as for kids
This is marketing nowadays. Change a core character in some way, say the internet is mad about it, hope you make money, and if you don't, blame it on the internet.
personally i am fine with the idea of adding a character that looks straight at the camera and goes "i am part of the lgbtq+ community" to every form of media in order to make ben sharpie have a heart attack
@@slimeball2765 I wouldn't mind that, if it didn't mean nearly all of these shows suck since they're made out of spite instead of telling a good story. Ben Shapiro is the kind of person who should have a tack in every seat he ever sits on.
i dont give a flying fuck about ben shapiro or any idiot in tumblr or twitter that is obsesed with him, i just dont want these hacks shitting all over existing franchises, why dont they take their poison and create somethitng original just for once? I seen these idiots take anything that i like turning it to shit with their propaganda, then blame me for not liking their shitty products then move on to the next thing that i love to repeat the same process, over and over for the last 10 years..... Video games, comics, animated shows, all of them are "problematic" and must change to whatever crazy vitriol they are preaching that week, then acuse the fans of being bigoted for not liking their shitty ideas, and how right they are, how we are internet trolls, how the things we like are broken and how they "fixed". I am just tired at this point, i dont give a crap which hole you want to fuck, what is the color of your skin, who do you vote or what is betwen your legs, all i want is good entertaiment, but that is too much to ask from the modern west. It seems only fans do good shit these days but most of the time it gets shut down by these companies....
It amazes me that they created an entire trailer to take a jab at the critics, and revealed the other character designs on the internet, instead of creating a trailer to reveal characters and taking a jab at the critics on the internet
I’ve always been a bit more understanding of black actors playing white characters in live action, since it’s possible that they just played the role better during auditions. But this is animated. This race swap was a conscious decision by the writers, not the casting directors. It’s just… really weird.
@@UOHCUNY You know that old adage about judging a book by its cover? It holds up pretty well here. I prefer characterization grounded in the circumstances and universe the character is from, with realistic development. But yeah, I also like unicorns. A lot of folks do
When Adam got to the second Velma lesbian clip, I looked at the chat to see what they said, and I saw someone say it's their watermark. I'm dying. Edit: I got to later in the video and looked at the chat again and someone said it's so the video doesn't get marked as for kids. That actually makes sense.
It was actually the exact opposite reason some people are mad about Velma. The show's creators said Velma is going to be in a love triangle with Fred competing against Daphne. You know, that pairing that barely even has 20 works on AO3? Even less if you exclude the p*rn fics? Edit: ok after looking into some things a bit more, it turns out I was a bit misinformed. They are doing the love triangle, but it's with Daphne now being a lesbian and pining for Velma, while Velma only has eyes for Fred. Regardless of all that, it's still ridiculous to me that it seems that one of their only motivations for making this show is to push their rare pair to be canon and also seemingly spiting a pairing people actually do like. Edit #2: Welp. Egg on my face. I guess that's what I deserve for assuming.
Fred would be better as a Johnny Bravo- like figure. Like he is certainly attractive but sucks when it comes to relationships because of his trap fetish
"If we lampshade the fact that we darkwashed characters and turned them gay for agenda purposes, it means that when someone criticizes it we automatically win!" Ah yes, because that worked the other 99.9% of the time hack writers have tried this. Really the idea of using "changing something" as a meta-commentary just makes me think of the Rocko's Modern Life special that did it far better. Sure, it was flawed, but there was a genuine attempt made and it turned out very well.
Can't wait for the Fred show that's designed to appeal to the kind of person who gets angry at black mermaids. They'll be hitting all four quadrants before long: woke, racist, wine mom and kid. God damn I hate corporations so much.
@@Shades14 damn, ever since I saw scream I always thought an r rated Scooby Doo movie parodying it would be perfect. Thought that day finally happened 😔
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I'm so tired of coward writers shielding themselves with so much irony, lampshading and metacommentary that it makes their work exhaustive to even critique
You must've loved She-Hulk.
@Aleksandr they didn't even try in she-hulk. It was inch deep meta commentary.
Yeah we said you were going to complain about it and we were right. So they acknowledge it sucks.
@@alesin1992 Oh, they did that a lot in She-Hulk? Dodged a bullet there, then.
rick and morty
"I'm a much more three-dimensional character. Watch as I make the same ironic, self aware metajoke that is totally something I would say and not just the writers awkwardly trying to dunk on internet trolls."
Uncle Grandpa died for this.
*"Yeah, I like solving mysteries, but I'm much more complex than that"
Like dudes, is it that hard to write dialogue actual people would fucking say. Why are contemporary writers so bad?
The easiest way to write a three-dimensional character is to just have them say it aloud.
Just like the easiest way to write a funny character is to have their friends tell them they're funny.
Because apparently writers think that putting a mannequin in front of me with "Complex" written on it is convincing.
@@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 It's because they're trying to be contemporary instead of entertaining or good.
why the fuck are people suddenly praising uncle grandpa? Are you so desperate to be contrarian that you’ll claim a garbage show was good?
Man uncle grandpa was good. Dumb but good
I like that the writing is so inept, that they didn't even create a dumb 'punching bag' character to spout the meta, ironic hate-speech. Their version of Velma is apparently the kind of horrible person that sends death threats over creative decisions. Neat! I hate it.
It's a very Mindy Kaling approach. The character she wrote for herself in the Mindy Project was a dumbass Trump supporter
I bet that role is gonna be filled by Fred until he’s revealed as gay
So Velma is every single person on the internet that sends death threats and harassment... great! Totally not fcking annoying!
@@AdissapointedSonic you mean he isn't going to love traps?
It feels really out of character too, if they wanted to make a statement about it they could have made someone else that character (maybe the villain of one of the episodes or something)
“Uh oh, it’s self-aware”
I laughed way harder than I should have
I'm sincerely tired of the cynical self-awareness and irony that plagues so much fucking media today
Ted Lasso is an oasis of honesty and positivity in an ocean of cynicism. Adum should watch it. Don't know if it will be his cup of tea tho.
Gumball and It's Always Sunny are the only shows I can think of that manages to do it right.
@@chonchjohnch I only beat my wife ironically. I'm not like one of those people who *actually* beat their wives. Some people just don't understand irony.
@@michaelstrong5383 my two most watch shows. Absolutely agree
I loved the part when Velma said "It's velmin time!" and then proceeded to kill Paul Allen it was absolutely chilling
I personalty enjoy when she said "Fuck Dumbass" at the end
@@romulusnuma116 Nah, best moment was her getting Scooby Doo out of the trap and he said, "Rhi rook rit resonrally!"
Comedic gold!
That doesn't sound right but I don't know enough about Scooby-doo to disprove it
Weirdest part is that Shaggy was having dinner with Paul in London.
Well thanks Velma you even ruined SCOOBY SCOOBY DOOO9OOOOO
"So, in our show, we constantly Stick it to the trolls and make fun of the internet and watch the good reviews come in from critics who like our show to spite those internet people."
"Okay... what's the show's plot?"
"Plot?"
Oh good. More that sh1t.
"It's a show about nothing."
"Oh, it's like a mix between Scooby-Doo and Seinfeld. Odd, but it could work."
"No, we meant literally nothing. We didn't really have a story for this one. We're just bullshitting here."
The smugness and lack of self-awareness the writers have while pathetically picking fights with internet trolls is both sad and funny.
Funnily thats what happened to she-hulk. That makes me curious if velma will follow a similar path.
They do the same shit in Teen Titans Go and it is exhausting
"Dumbass; fuck" is so RUclips doesn't mark the video as for kids
No that's Scooby's new catchphrase
@@Mantis42 I thought it was already Fred's catchphrase.
@@sajibprobably230 dumbass is Scooby's new catchphrase, fuck is Fred's
It’s amazing how much dialogue has devolved into characters reading off an outline of their emotions.
nooooo you just don't understand it's actually really smart because it's self aware and definitely not just lazy
Robot Devil: You can't just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me feel angry!
@@soundthatyoucansee123 I need a refresher, do you mind explaining? I haven't watched it in forever
You put into words the sucky feeling I've had with new media for a long time
I sincerely hope more people get into and appreciate classic films from the 40's-60's. Yes, there was censorship, but it forced writers to be creative when it came to skirting overt censors.
There was a time when people spoke THROUGH dialogue and where subtext was king.
This. This era is just chock full of verbal diarrhea where there's no such thing as subtlety anymore. Just say exactly what you're thinking or conveying and let it stick on the audience.
I think what gets me angriest is that, at it's core, Velma is a smart character.
She wouldn't just completely ignore that someone said they were inside her house, she would take that seriously, and find a way to defend herself or (more likely) escape the area. She is quite nerdy at times too, yes, but she isn't going to send an email to a place hoping they died and going "well at least they didn't change judy's skin color".
it's like they didn't understand the first thing about her, even despite the "I'm much more three dimensional than that" comment.
And why is she racist? Why is she grumbling about how “at least she’s white” and stuff? That’s so weird and out of place.
@@joshraid1550 it’s to TRY to make fun of people complaining they changed a pre existing and pre established character’s race for brownie points
@@Ptr-ck7if But why put the racist dialogue in the mouth of the new "diverse, progressive" Velma?
@@joshraid1550 actually that is really funny and doesnt make sense either, how are you supposed to like a character when the 1st things they do on camera is send death threats and be racist, even if its a joke were not ganna get emotionally attached to the character, dang these writers suck.
If nothing else, finding out that Adum loves Gumball makes me super happy.
what? you knew he has good taste, i just assumed that was the case 🤷🏾♂️
@@toonboy2041 Ah yes, he clearly likes those for the elements that he complained about in the trailer in *literally this video*
Who doesn't like Gumball? It's such a creative and fun show.
@@toonboy2041 You clearly don't know Adam
@@luiginastro8831 I've watched most of his content over the years
*_"What made Scooby-Doo a kid show is Scooby-Doo. We couldn’t have a take on it, like how can we do this in a fun and modern way. [Our efforts] coincided with Warner Bros. Animation saying we can’t use the dog!”_* -The showrunner
Because when I watch a Scooby-Doo show or movie, I think "This is nice, but it could be better without that mangy mutt." Man, this show is going to suck.
Clearly they didn’t learn anything from that “Velma and daphne” film ^^’
they never watched mystery inc did they
*"-and the show would have been better without those meddling cishet white kids and that iconic/beloved title character!"*
- Far-Left, mentally ill, ideological sycophant, writers who spend most of their time arguing on twitter, and going out of their way to spite/offend old people, as a pathetic form of self-validation, because their identity is contingent on rebelling, opposing, deconstructing, swapping, and shaming; rather than building/creating anything of real value, wit, or originality.
To be fair, I did think that about the first live-action Scooby Doo movie.
(But hey, at least it started Matthew Lillard as a great new Shaggy for voice work too)
scooby is a pretty realistic dog, though, all he does special is talk. he usually walks on all 4s and acts like a dog.
if they just have him bark instead of talk it won't mess with any of the writing.
The “3-dimensional” line strikes me as evidence that the writers aren’t all that familiar with recent Scooby-Doo media, and so they’re going to remove ALL of Velma’s personality and characteristics and replace them with dumb, meta bullshit in order to “fix” her
@@TrueGamer22887 oh my god you’re so right. Velma has always had depth to her and been a hilarious character on her own. I hate what they did with her here
It kinda reminds me of She Hulk...
@@xxsegaxx in what way?
@@PatheticApathetic in being too aware and meta
@@xxsegaxx that’s how She-Hulk has always worked
I love how he immediately understood the _second_ Velma started speaking.
I love when they make a new show/movie of an existing property and insult the would-be fans. Then they wonder why the show gets cancelled after a season or two.
@@TrueGamer22887 ...
"Don't play our game" - Battlefield dev
"Don't read our comics" - comic writer that wrote Snowflake and Safe Space comics
"Star Wars fans are bad people" - Mark Hamill
"Canon is bad and we should destroy it" - Esquire, to defend Rings of Power and the stupid Star Trek series.
@@murderalphabetinc.5162 Well I have heard nobody hates Star Wars fans like other Star War fans. But come on dude, are you seriously defending those stupid anti-woke channels? More times than not their predictions are wrong and their analysis are so surface-level they never bring up the real problems with these shows and movies.
@@rivera229 Mark Hamill hates Star Wars, not just Star Wars fans lol. And let me know when woke people produce anything that isn't based on "fuck you cracker".
@@murderalphabetinc.5162 That's the thing though, almost ANYBODY gets accused of being woke for doing something different. I remember people were calling the MCU woke when Captain Marvel was getting made. Like what in the world? These anti-woke losers are just looking for problems that don't exist at all. Not one of these anti-woke reviewers ever mentioned how the U.S. Air Force funded the hell out of Captain Marvel and used the movie to promote a recruitment drive. You know, the REAL problem. It's like that with everything, you guys try so hard to find a problem that you can get upset with, you miss out the real problems that is going on.
@@rivera229 Captain Marvel is woke as hell and I hope they cure your encephalitis because you're clearly suffering some brain damage. What was the reason the studio gave for all criticism for Captain Marvel's really weak writing, character development, and cringey dialogue?
Oh, right, "the movie isn't made for white men"...
1:14 the tsunami of cringe that overwhelms Adam at this point is something no one should ever have to endure
And this is the man who watched pretty much every Dhar Mann video one after the other until the YMS Highlights audience couldn't take any more, while he laughed the whole time. Even he was struck dumb by this.
@@JrIcify Don’t forget the Gen Hope vids
Velma: * Exists as Indian. *
Adam: * _STROKE_ *
Velma Trailer: We're making fun of people who don't like that we changed Velma's race.
Me: Okay, but what's the actual show about?
Velma Trailer: People who don't like shows changing are dumb:
Me: I guess, now what's the main premise of your show?
Velma Trailer: Velma is totally 3 dimensional now.
Me: Just tell me what happens in the show already!!!!
Velma's VA got changed recently, her old VA retired a couple years ago, so the new one is noticeably more shrill & nasaly
It's been almost ten years and every Velma VA, except Gina Rodriguez, have had a nasally voice
It’s Kate Micucci who was Sadie on Steven Universe.
@@DDarkestKnight not this bad tho, Mindy Cohn sounded fine as Velma without making it grading
(For context I'm talking about the Lesbian Velma clip and not Mindy Kaling's Velma, her's sounds good imo)
@@Luna-Fox I don't know what your case is but Kate Micucci is as close Mindy Cohn's Velma as Frank Welker is to Don Messick's Scooby. At the end they all sound like Velma
@@DDarkestKnight She couldn't sound any more different; while yes, they all sound like the character Velma, they certainly don't sound alike.
You can tell this wanted to be Venture Bros. but was 2 decades late to the party, has only contempt for the original source material, and doesn't wanna bother creating characters that stand on their own.
I miss that show
@@modgoat2594 me too…so so sad. Adult Swim has really been fumbling for a while…although that new ATHF movie was alright
@@modgoat2594 it's getting a movie, idk when it'll be out but it's coming
To be fair, and based on suspicion, the showrunners did want to make their own shitty adult animation, but Warner forced the Scooby IP on to them because money. I'm certain the show will end up with more hate-watchers than whatever minuscule audience it would have got if it was just the original idea of some unrelated cartoon detective comedy show.
@@user-lb9xw4xf2q "based on suspicion" also can't wait for this show to get a season 2 like the rest of the shows that preyed on hate watchers. Oh wait, they're dead, like a frog trying to lure in cats to eat.
4:00 I don't give a fuck about velma or anything, I'm just happy to learn that someone else thinks Gumball is one of the best animated shows of all time.
It's somewhere in the Top 100
@@DDarkestKnight Top 1
@@VinOnline HA! 50s at best
@@VinOnline it isn't number one by a long shot. It's good but not #1.
@@DDarkestKnight yeah I’d say somewhere in top 50’s is fair.
The only good thing about Adum watching this is that I found out he loves Gumball and now I wanna know what his favorite episodes are
I was going to say the same thing.
Since Adum mentioned it, I really hope they don't cancel the movie. It would be silly for them to axe off something that people are actually waiting for, only to push something almost nobody wants.
I didn't even know there were plans for a Gumball movie, what the fuck is Warner even doing?
He's a furry, so of course he'd love Gumball!
the one with hot dog guy obviously
Looking forward to the "Mindy in Velma cosplay" show
That's Mindy Kaling in every thing that she's ever made
When you get to the point where you've changed everything about a character, why are you even using the character, just make your own thing!
I think that it was supposed to be its own thing, but WB painted the Scooby IP over it for more views
Don’t blame the artists. Have you paid attention to media consolidation & focus grouped everything & no-$-left-behind or massive financialization of film or any other trend in the enormous economic industry that is “entertainment” the past 2 decades? The 90s were the last time new artists were encouraged to tell original personal stories. I hate the IP-ization of everything too & that is part of why I watch YMS bc Adum calls out that stuff & makes efforts to find + reveal real soulfully made films in an era that is actively punishing anything that isn’t an EU IP they already own. Greed isn’t a constraint the art has to contend with anymore; it’s the alpha + omega these days. I hope it swings back to the point that calling people a sell-out isn’t a compliment. That whole “get your bag” thing needs to become personally disgusting to more people & we have to move on from worshiping any idiot criminal with significant money. I don’t think you should get to tell stories to + about real people if you’re in a moneybubble & you pay the only actual real people you know.
It’s not just film; why do we have another Prey game that has no relationship with the first Prey?
Massive inequality leads to bad behaviour & worse art.
WB wants money and they know they could get an audience of hateful trolls and lonely lesbians by throwing out an MA Scooby Doo product.
Not to derail the conversation or anything but you just perfectly summed up my problems with Testament in GGST. As well as Arcsys's recent representation in general.
"Hey guy, we're bringing back your fave characters from the old games, well apart from their design their personality their gender their motivation their general vibe their entire freaking moveset, all being completely different and unrecognizable, but hey they have the same name and a slightly similar color palatte, so close enough, just ignore the constant cases of characters misgenering their new gender as well thanks"
Testament is definitely the worst case of it, but it's a problem across over aspects of Strive, and it doesn't help the immediate next character after Testament was Bridget, who they went completely against the message of the original story of and changed the characters gender when they were established for two decades of legacy being a crossdressing icon that had a message about not letting people force labels or gender onto you and being comfortable with being comfortable being a man in touch with your femmine side and not taking crap from people who misundidentify you or try to say you're not a real man for doing so.
I love GuiltyGear, but I've been salty about the way they're treating the writing/characters.
At least the game's fun to play...
"I'm much more three dimensional than that" even tho the whole trailer before that gave her no indication of personality
So three dimensional that she's just an ironic Twitter account unironically
But I'm insisting I have personality. I have so much that I explicitly have to state it! Doesn't that mean I have personality?
This is just the *"I'm not like other girls"* trope, but with extra steps.
My favorite part was when Velma found out scooby doo is a dog and not shaggys grandma.
1:19 it was right here where Adum finally understood why people aren't interested in this show.
Just based on the trailer, Velma feels like it only exists to stir the pot without actually providing the audience with anything substantial. Like, its sole purpose is just to piss people off and isn't all that concerned with standing on its own merits.
Because if the show gets people mad while ostensibly being about good things like LGBT and Minority representation (no matter how poorly written they or the story are), then people will jump to its defense over said concepts rather than the writing and validate the writers on their badly-written material.
It's the same with things like the Ghostbustrs remake, where it took forever to get to talk about the film instead of the... controversial reaction to the marketing and recasting, but when the script and writing was critiqued it was a LOT harder to find defenses of the writing and comedy.
Outrage sells, delivering an original (mid and lackluster) show would have not got any attention, but a race or gender swap will always get attention.
This
@@banditkeef3864 see that is true...very short term. Then they fail miserably. Just look at all of CWs DC shows, Batwoman especially that is their worst selling show
@@autumnlotus6250 I’ve watched some of the CW shows, believe me, skin change or liberal shit was far from the biggest problems of those shows,
Shit budget while trying to do crazy special effects plus half assed writing killed the shows, but the channels like the quartering chose to focus on the “liberal agenda” so that was the more prevalent discussion on the shows.
But even though the shows died, notice how much more people talked about batwoman instead of the arrow or flash, they know people will flip their shit over a race change/lib shit and it steers the conversation away from the writing and acting/direction.
I usually don't care about characters being race-swapped but the fact that Indian Velma is wearing the exact same clothes, has the exact same hair style and the exact same glasses gives me a very strange feeling of wrongness.
I don't see this character and think "oh, Indian Velma", It comes across like an obsessive fan has successfully murdered and replaced the real one.
I feel like making a few minor changes to her design, while still keeping her identifiably "Velma", would have helped
Exactly! Heaven forbid that the writers make original characters of color. Nope, just use the fill tool and make them darker. Job done! We've solved racial issues!
As a black person I've felt icky about this and the little mermaid remake.
I don’t care about refreshing an IP character, any race/orientation swap is fine by me. I don’t question those aspects of shows if they place it in the world properly, even if the show itself spends time exploring the new characteristics, as long as it unfolds within the story. So it doesn’t bother me if Velma’s got Indian heritage or catches feelings for anyone. & I’m Canadian but all the Indian girls I went to school with basically dressed like any other kid unless something special was happening (I’m from the Canadian Cultural Mosaic generation so we had a lot of “learning about each other’s heritage” days & I unironically loved them) so tho I can see wanting more of a look update, I disagree it’s necessary or even desirable. The point is probably “why not Indian tho?” not “the Indian Velma” so it makes sense to keep her defined design.
However I wish the writing was on the same page bc what is annoying & offputting is not giving her a f*cking story or personality. I will accept almost any story world or premise if the setup is there & the world is fully baked. But I hate that pseudo meta bs & goddam that sounded like she was reading off her own character card like if Scooby was MagicTG. & the audio seemed clear & fine but I wonder if the sound engineers could back off or soften whatever is making the performance sound like broken glass in my ears. Kaling has a voice that can be really pitchy but she can be mixed & mic-ed to allow her energetic performances without calling so much attention to how harsh her upper register sounds here. I hate it bc people will likely just be mad at her voice but this feels more like terrible dialogue + un-nuanced sound engineering (it sounds like when commercial audio was almost always set to be as loud & consonant-forward as possible with no other dimensionality added).
@@GuranPurin honestly, that sounds like a better premise for a show. It could be like an examination of what it's like to consume popular media as a minority member.
@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 So the point is, something needs to be changed, besides the race?
@@GuranPurin …Come again?
Gives the phrase "Scooby-dooby-doo, where are you?" a whole new meaning
“You should never change anything ever” These writers know that’s not the case. They’ve said it themselves. They want to use popular characters to push their idealism.
"Ideology."
Idealism implies an altruistic pursuit.
@@SefniAsheforr the fuck r u guys talking about the writing is just annoying and lame
One of the more appropriate "Hurt" cut ins
I'm willing to bet that this Velma show wasn't even a Scooby Doo concept from its inception. Mindy Kaling probably went to WB with this self insert detective show, to which they suggested it be a Scooby Doo show since it will sell more. That could explain why Scooby isn't in the show, all the changes to the characters, and how its bitterness towards its critics is in full display (That stupid Scream-esque meta humour that kindly needs to sod off).
Judging from the trailer and some of the stills online, the animation is well executed. The colour palette, lighting, character expression and movement sell me on the illusion; with it conveying its horror comedy tone to decent effect.
Outside of that, this show just comes off as insecure, like a bad comedian who makes fun of his own jokes.
The "self-insert show" aspect does make sense considering that the other characters all want to fuck Velma.
This teaser is basically the TV equivalent of repeating criticism in a mocking voice and acting like that counts as a defense.
Adam speaking highly of The Amazing World of Gumball is one of the most pleasant surprises I've had in quite some time.
yip yip
If anyone is curious why there is random swearing in the cartoon videos, is that so they're tagged as non-eligible for RUclips kids. This way, the comments aren't disabled.
At least with the Harley Quinn series it kinda makes sense for them to be extra meta and joke about their audience. (to the fact that they basically turned Harley into Deadpool in the last 10 or so years)
what is this series trying to go for?!
Is this what Velma "developed" into for the past 50 years?! or did they just ran out of ideas with her?!
No it's just current year. This is what we get.
I think that the difference is with that show, they obviously have a deep understanding of the DC universe and its characters. They can properly make meta commentary on them and subvert them appropriately because they understand what makes them tick. It also helps that in spite of the show being about Harley Quinn, it doesn't demonize everyone around her for the sake of a message. Batman, Gordon, Kite Man, even the Joker are all extremely flawed, but in the end are decent people just trying to do better. It's surprisingly earnest where it could've so easily been more cynical garbage.
@@brycebitetti1402 Joker not only becomes a househusband but the mayor as well. Like you cannot make this shit up
Apparently the creators wanted to make an original show but WB forced them to slap the Scooby-Doo label on it when no one on the show even cares about or likes the IP.
It's cool to hear Adam talk about animated stuff. Knowing he likes Gumball is... Relatable 💏
"Uh oh, it's self-aware" - Cyberdyne scientists after turning Skynet on.
Miles Morales is a good racebend because he's his own person. He's not _just_ black spiderman. He's not _just_ black Peter Parker.
He's Miles Morales. He's his own person, with his own goals and struggles. The way he became spiderman is unique to him. He has his own personality, his own life.
He isn't a recolour. They put effort into creating a new, interesting character. THAT'S representation.
EDIT because words are hard for some people: I called Miles a racebend because he isn't one. It was irony.
EDIT because if one more self-righteous redditor tries to get in my face because I overestimated this community's ability to "read between the lines", I will make comic nerds an oppressed minority:
I don't care if you like Miles Morales as a character. I am not commenting on his quality as a character. I am not saying Miles Morales is perfect representation. You would think I was very obviously saying "PUTTING EFFORT INTO A NEW CHARACTER IS BETTER REPRESENTATION THAN COLOUR-SWAPPING AN EXISTING ONE" is what I am praising, but apparently that very clear statement is too difficult to understand.
To be fair he didn't really start off that way
A recolour, wow, that's a great way to put it and I'll definitely be using that from now on
@@soapbiter36577 As someone whose read ultimate spider-man, what do you mean?
@@soapbiter36577 uh...what about him didn't start off as his own character with his own storylines? I'm looking at the details of his introduction and beginning storyline and while there are similarities to Parker (nerdy kid gets bit by spider that gives him powers and he also has an uncle thats important to him), the details are pretty different (Miles got bit at his uncle's, not a museum, and the uncle is a criminal who later gets killed by Miles).
@@PointsofData When you listed these things out did you not feel like you were describing retreading a lot of the same ground with some details switched around?
I heard that even the people working on the show hate it. Is there any truth to that?
I wouldn't doubt it.
I wouldn't put it past them if that were actually true.
AFAIK, they wanted to use Scooby but weren’t allowed.
Yes. They pitched this as an original show but had to dress it up as a Scooby-Doo IP to get greenlit. That's why they're not even bothering including Scooby. No one on this show likes or cares about Scooby-Doo.
The script comes off as if they do
corporations please im begging just make something new
Remember Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law? That was a fun satire using the old Hanna-Barbera characters; even made them out of character a lot of the time, but made up for it by being actually funny. It helped that it had a great cast too, with career animation VAs and comedians, whereas this show is a bunch of 20-something randoms.
Is that a Family guy parody starring Meg in blackface ?
For those who are curious, the uploader adds the swear words to their videos so it doesn't get marked as "for kids" by RUclips and suppressed by the algorithm.
So yeah that RUclips channel, they post a lot of cartoon clips and they put in that cursing sound bite at the end so RUclips doesn't claim it as just for kids lol
Ironic writing is not a substitute for good writing
The channel does the rapid fire cussing at the end to dogde COPPA sensors bc they're uploading cartoon clips to keep it off of RUclips Kids
This one's gimmick is that it will deal with murder mysteries (I think) and mainly that every character is a stunt cast matching their voice actor. Daphne is Asian, Shaggy is black and voiced by that guy from I Think You Should Leave's Buff Boys and Baby of the Year sketches. Fred is voiced by Glen Howerton, Dennis from Always Sunny.
Can´t we just use the entire "It´s always sunny" cast and rewrite the story to be closer to "It´s always sunny" and to save on budget we could make it life action. I´m still working on the name tho...
had no idea Adum was such a big Gumball fan, I never really hear him talking about modern cartoons tbh
I love that YMS knows what Gumball is.
^^'
I mean, I suspect all furries know about it
@@user-lb9xw4xf2q hhhhh
we need more media that actually stands up for themselves and doesn't constantly spit out self deprecating jokes like in a horror movie where they go "Werewolves?! is this some kind of horror movie?" as the actors look at the camera with a smirk like just fucking have a moment where the movie cares about itself and go "oh my god werewolves we need to fucking run"
Another ginger falls to the gingapocalypse. Why am I not surprised.
I’ve always been a fan of Velma’s character. People would bully me and call me “Velma” and I took it with pride. I watched Mystery Inc and I liked that Velma had lesbian undertones, it made me feel represented. Then I saw… this. And all I feel is disappointed. :/ not because of the lesbian thing (or lack thereof) but because they make her character so… boring. I like the other “gay” Velma, I just hope they flesh out her character more than just “lesbian nerd”.
To quote a certain ‘ugly sonic’ “You can’t hurt my feelings if I’m in on the joke” and to that I say “are you though?”
These people will never be Jackson Publick and Doc Hammer.
See this is why we like Smiling Friends.
It isn't sniffing its own farts.
The character synopsis doesn't even read as if it's a Scooby-Doo IP, it seems like they threw darts at a wall with a couple dozen buzzwords and tried to make a show about it.
"At Crystal Cove High School, Daphne (Constance Wu) is a popular mean girl orphan who deals drugs because of a dark family secret. Her boyfriend Fred (Glenn Howerton) personifies mediocre white richness. His mansion holds a dark secret - and he has teeny widdle privates, a subject of much conversation. "Shaggy" has become Norville (Sam Richardson), a school-newspaper striver friendzoned by his beloved Velma. He worries he's a beta male; remember that lame humor concept from 20 years ago?"
Haha it’s funny cause they’re addressing the criticism and self-aware haha isn’t that clever aren’t we clever please think we’re funny please watch our show
Adum liking The Amzing world of Gumball makes me feel so validated.
Every single lazy writer learned the exact wrong lesson from "Scream" and it's been 30 fucking years
People behind this want to make a "woke" show, know it won't go anywhere unless it's attached to an existing IP, proceed to bastardize the IP and actively attack the fanbase, then cry when the show flops over how "bigoted" the fans were and how they were to blame over the show's failure instead of their own awful decisions, bad writing, and alienation of their fans.
It's a trend, at this point.
This Velma is like Abed from 'Community' using pop culture to describe themselves.
I think Mindy Kaling's voice really suits the character of Velma. She's a decent pick for this. It's a shame they chose to spotlight this weird, cringy scene instead of the relevant story. Unless this is the story? Velma gets angry online? That'd kinda suck.
This looks like something that you would see on the GTA V in game TV lmao
To me it always looked like Velma was the stereotypical "nerdy" girl, I've never gotten the impression that she was lesbian, in the original show there are multiple episodes were she's get crushes on male characters... Also I do not understand the race swap, why there's no Mystery Team nor Scooby (you know, the TITULAR character of the franchise!!!), If you want to change everything about an IP you might as well create a new show altogether, one one , this seems just an attempt to piss up fans to have some free publicity...
yeah, nerdy does not=lesbian
She had some lesbian undertones and a pseudo-girlfriend in Mystery Incorporated, and I think it worked well in that show, but yeah, this version just seems to be a total mess.
@@theonegoldengryphon Mistery Incorporated, the 2010's one? ...I've haven't watched that one (I'm more of a fan of the old show), even then, they should at least make her bi-sexual as to not contradict previously established canon...
@@HAL_NOVEMILA That whole show is kind of a soft reboot, they were dicking around with canon a lot.
but why should i watch this now that shes dead
The Scooby Doo franchise has been remade and revamped dozens of times since the 70s. Fleshing out the characters and shaking up the original show's predictable formula isn't new or shocking at this point. Hell, the live action movies already tackled the self-aware angle twenty years ago. And instead of showing us why this might still be worth watching despite all of that, the creators got high off their own farts for a minute and thirty seconds and called it a teaser.
We can’t just tell a good story well anymore? Ok.
the characters are so "diversified" they are basically OCs using the names of existing IP.
this really is peak modern adaptation.
Adam's reactions keep me sane
3:45 They also killed final space and infinity train. Those bastards.
Final space? 😭
Saw it and I like it so far. The characters have some nice changes. The humor is somewhat funny. The writing is good. The acting is phenomenal, especially the protagonist herself. The music is phenomenal. It was great!
I’m happy Wednesday got the spin off she deserves. Can’t wait to see Season 2 soon.
People, never forget - they shelved Infinity Train, but kept this.
Her design just looks like Velma wearing blackface. Do they not realise this? She pulled a Trudeau fr
6:56 they do that to prevent the video from being claimed as for kids
This is marketing nowadays. Change a core character in some way, say the internet is mad about it, hope you make money, and if you don't, blame it on the internet.
At some point all media will exist to make Ben Shapiro upset. Which... kinda based?
personally i am fine with the idea of adding a character that looks straight at the camera and goes "i am part of the lgbtq+ community" to every form of media in order to make ben sharpie have a heart attack
@@slimeball2765 I wouldn't mind that, if it didn't mean nearly all of these shows suck since they're made out of spite instead of telling a good story.
Ben Shapiro is the kind of person who should have a tack in every seat he ever sits on.
i dont give a flying fuck about ben shapiro or any idiot in tumblr or twitter that is obsesed with him, i just dont want these hacks shitting all over existing franchises, why dont they take their poison and create somethitng original just for once?
I seen these idiots take anything that i like turning it to shit with their propaganda, then blame me for not liking their shitty products then move on to the next thing that i love to repeat the same process, over and over for the last 10 years.....
Video games, comics, animated shows, all of them are "problematic" and must change to whatever crazy vitriol they are preaching that week, then acuse the fans of being bigoted for not liking their shitty ideas, and how right they are, how we are internet trolls, how the things we like are broken and how they "fixed".
I am just tired at this point, i dont give a crap which hole you want to fuck, what is the color of your skin, who do you vote or what is betwen your legs, all i want is good entertaiment, but that is too much to ask from the modern west.
It seems only fans do good shit these days but most of the time it gets shut down by these companies....
It amazes me that they created an entire trailer to take a jab at the critics, and revealed the other character designs on the internet, instead of creating a trailer to reveal characters and taking a jab at the critics on the internet
So the Warner Bros version of She-Hulk? Where it’s bad on purpose so it can’t ever be criticised?
I’ve always been a bit more understanding of black actors playing white characters in live action, since it’s possible that they just played the role better during auditions.
But this is animated. This race swap was a conscious decision by the writers, not the casting directors. It’s just… really weird.
I miss when characters were actually characters.
theyre pandering to you dumbasses
@@UOHCUNY they Pandering to twitter
@@saltywizard6149 look at her profile picture
@@UOHCUNY You know that old adage about judging a book by its cover? It holds up pretty well here. I prefer characterization grounded in the circumstances and universe the character is from, with realistic development. But yeah, I also like unicorns. A lot of folks do
Desperately seeking contraversy
When Adam got to the second Velma lesbian clip, I looked at the chat to see what they said, and I saw someone say it's their watermark. I'm dying.
Edit: I got to later in the video and looked at the chat again and someone said it's so the video doesn't get marked as for kids. That actually makes sense.
It was actually the exact opposite reason some people are mad about Velma. The show's creators said Velma is going to be in a love triangle with Fred competing against Daphne. You know, that pairing that barely even has 20 works on AO3? Even less if you exclude the p*rn fics?
Edit: ok after looking into some things a bit more, it turns out I was a bit misinformed. They are doing the love triangle, but it's with Daphne now being a lesbian and pining for Velma, while Velma only has eyes for Fred. Regardless of all that, it's still ridiculous to me that it seems that one of their only motivations for making this show is to push their rare pair to be canon and also seemingly spiting a pairing people actually do like.
Edit #2: Welp. Egg on my face. I guess that's what I deserve for assuming.
I can't even imagine being as out of touch with what people want as the average tv executive.
Fred would be better as a Johnny Bravo- like figure. Like he is certainly attractive but sucks when it comes to relationships because of his trap fetish
they were trying so hard to be self aware that they looped back around and became oblivious
Can’t believe I’ve seen this clip of Adam gushing about Gumball wow I feel so heard
Coochiepoochie was just Scoot's secret channel Adam has accidentally discovered
Honestly the biggest crime is slapping this family guy tier animation on such a beautiful art style
"I'm much more three dimensional than that, since I'm also black"
"Oh no, it's self-aware... I'm already kinda annoyed actually..."
"If we lampshade the fact that we darkwashed characters and turned them gay for agenda purposes, it means that when someone criticizes it we automatically win!" Ah yes, because that worked the other 99.9% of the time hack writers have tried this.
Really the idea of using "changing something" as a meta-commentary just makes me think of the Rocko's Modern Life special that did it far better. Sure, it was flawed, but there was a genuine attempt made and it turned out very well.
"Uh-oh, it's self-aware . . . I'm already kind of annoyed actually." -The chillest engineer immediately post singularity
Imagine anytime asking someone if they like something and getting the reply, "Yeah, but I'm much more complex than that, ugh"
I didn't know Adam liked Gumball, it's a really good show
Can't wait for the Fred show that's designed to appeal to the kind of person who gets angry at black mermaids. They'll be hitting all four quadrants before long: woke, racist, wine mom and kid.
God damn I hate corporations so much.
This show seems like the type of thing made specifically just to get a reaction out of people, but just that.
Its like the writers think putting “Lol 😏😏😏 what If I did X? 😏😏😏😏” before doing the thing some how completely negates the fucking thing.
I'm not gonna lie, if the whole movie is a scream parody/tribute I will absolutely watch it, forgive me for my sins.
Bad news it's a series.
@@Shades14 damn, ever since I saw scream I always thought an r rated Scooby Doo movie parodying it would be perfect. Thought that day finally happened 😔
To be fair, I'm pretty sure I would consume any garbage if it had Scream in it, especially if animated. I may have a problem.
Don't they kicked Matthew, you know the original killer of scream, off the show for a big celebrity.
@@angellara7040 by Matthew you mean the actor for Stu? I'm not sure what controversy you're talking about.
The fact that they try to be satirical/self-aware while referencing _Scream,_ which was _already_ a satire...
The sad part is she is perfect to voice Velma
Tbf "Well, at least Judy's still white" is a funny as fuck line when taken on its own
Is it so hard to just write a unique character instead of changing existing ones? I just don't get it man. I grew up with Scooby-Doo.