One of the only times i've ever heard a Citadis at speed. Love it. Usually slower systems opt for Alstom trams, so you never heard or feel them going at their top speeds. They are very capable trams and I hope more cities see that potential.
In Nice, France (my city) our tram line 2 goes underground near the city center and reach 75 km/h on the tunnels. I love to record it because i rarely take it. They do the exact same sound as there are Alstom 405.
We are also getting a Citadis X05 in Frankfurt, and the car is in test operation at the moment. The first X05s will be in service in Frankfurt from Dezember
@@Mwffm Ja da der neuer T Wagen zur Citadis X05 Familie gehört, wird es identisch klingen. Als ich vor einige Wochen den T Wagen gesichtet hatte, klang es identisch
@@ET423 ich habe irgendwo anders gelesen, dass sie auf der 15, 17 und 18 eingesetzt wird? Hatte den Wagen letztens gesehen und konnte keinen Anfahrtssound feststellen… habe nur klackern gehört seltsamerweise
@@Mwffm Da der Wagen neu kannst, kannst du sicherlich noch nicht hören aber im späteren zeitpunkt werden Sie irgendwann mal laut und der T Wagen gehört zum Citadis X05 Familie. Am Montag werde ich ab 7:25 Uhr auf der Suche machen, denn der erster T Wagen soll ab 7:25 Uhr von Hauptbahnhof in Richtung Rebstockbad fahren. Werde dann auch filmen, dann stelle ich Sie rein
@@lindsaydonovan6241 Has it been 70 for some time? I have a memory of seeing 80 on an Urbos speedo. (I could be wrong though, I’m not a frequent L1 traveller.)
All modern trams are typically capable of 80 km/h or more but the maximum speed on any system is limited by the operational rules applying to that system, so the trams usually have a governor that limits the speed to the maximum system speed. 70 km/h is a common internationally accepted maximum speed for a tram running on line-of-sight. More important for journey time is average speed, which is influenced more by acceleration from and deceleration into stops and cornering ability, all of these not being strong points for the Citadis which is limited by its fixed bogies and adhesion being only about 66%.
And the density of the stops and the radius of the curves. It depends on the line as well not only on the vehicles. Im agreeing and adding this. The citadis have a habit of not stopping as quickly as our older trams but our ansaldo breda sirio trams are far worse in cornering ability. They both have rigid bogies but the citadis is 2 meters shorter and maybe weights less but for that im no sure.
only 45? i would think it could at least make it within the 50-60 mph mark oh well i shouldn't be too ungreatful i mean this is probably the only line in which these trams will achieve their max speed since the lines they run on now are incredibly slow
I hope you did not ‘dob in’ this driver and cost him his job. I always hide the identity of my drivers just in case management considers they have done something wrong.
@@artemstransportvlogs121 Well you already said he was speeding. I think Citadis are limited to 60km/h, especially on the L1. And everyone at his depot would recognise him from your video.
@@peterc2407 Thanks for that. Maybe the limit has been lifted in the last 12 months since I was last there, maybe there were so 70k sections which I missed seeing. Anyway I will take a look next month when I plan to visit. Maybe you will be my driver.
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One of the only times i've ever heard a Citadis at speed. Love it. Usually slower systems opt for Alstom trams, so you never heard or feel them going at their top speeds. They are very capable trams and I hope more cities see that potential.
I love your Brussels tram @mrnoah53
It's incredible shooting off along the 2013 extension. My favourite part has to be the tunnel at Leichhardt North.
Oh yes! Tunnels are the best and the whole L1 is heaps better then L2 & L3!
We also have these trams in Athens but they don't have the same sounds
That’s pretty fast for a tram, also you just reached 200 subs milestone! I think those scrapyard videos have made your subscribers skyrocket.
Thanks! Exactly, my videos with that old carriages made me so famous as I expected!
Lots of tram systems in Europe go 80.
Wow that is some speed
In Nice, France (my city) our tram line 2 goes underground near the city center and reach 75 km/h on the tunnels. I love to record it because i rarely take it. They do the exact same sound as there are Alstom 405.
Can’t believe that trams are going faster than most metros underground 😮
We are also getting a Citadis X05 in Frankfurt, and the car is in test operation at the moment. The first X05s will be in service in Frankfurt from Dezember
Wird unsere Tram in Frankfurt genau diesen Sound haben? Das ist ja ein traumhafter Anfahrtssound.
@@Mwffm Ja da der neuer T Wagen zur Citadis X05 Familie gehört, wird es identisch klingen. Als ich vor einige Wochen den T Wagen gesichtet hatte, klang es identisch
@@Mwffm Ab Montag den 12 Dezember wird Sie auf der Linie 17 fahren
@@ET423 ich habe irgendwo anders gelesen, dass sie auf der 15, 17 und 18 eingesetzt wird? Hatte den Wagen letztens gesehen und konnte keinen Anfahrtssound feststellen… habe nur klackern gehört seltsamerweise
@@Mwffm Da der Wagen neu kannst, kannst du sicherlich noch nicht hören aber im späteren zeitpunkt werden Sie irgendwann mal laut und der T Wagen gehört zum Citadis X05 Familie.
Am Montag werde ich ab 7:25 Uhr auf der Suche machen, denn der erster T Wagen soll ab 7:25 Uhr von Hauptbahnhof in Richtung Rebstockbad fahren. Werde dann auch filmen, dann stelle ich Sie rein
The original Variotrams used to hit 80 in the John Street tunnel. What speed to the newer trams do there?
Yes, Variotrams used to run full power down there. Currently Alstom Citadis X05 trams running there 60. Caf Urbos 3 usually 60, sometimes 70.
HOLY SH*T HOW CAN THEY GO THAT FAST
They used to do a good turn in the Glebe tunnel and just to the west of Lilyfield. Oh, how things have gone south.
How fast do they go now? Last time I caught it several years ago, Urbos 3 was hitting 80km/h
@@nathanmurphy5 I'll check some time this week if I find the time. The Variotrams were 80kph capable, run at 70.
@@lindsaydonovan6241 Has it been 70 for some time? I have a memory of seeing 80 on an Urbos speedo. (I could be wrong though, I’m not a frequent L1 traveller.)
This is probably faster than the North Shore line through Wollstonecraft.
Those trams are also in france in the formation of 9 carriages
All modern trams are typically capable of 80 km/h or more but the maximum speed on any system is limited by the operational rules applying to that system, so the trams usually have a governor that limits the speed to the maximum system speed. 70 km/h is a common internationally accepted maximum speed for a tram running on line-of-sight. More important for journey time is average speed, which is influenced more by acceleration from and deceleration into stops and cornering ability, all of these not being strong points for the Citadis which is limited by its fixed bogies and adhesion being only about 66%.
And the density of the stops and the radius of the curves. It depends on the line as well not only on the vehicles. Im agreeing and adding this. The citadis have a habit of not stopping as quickly as our older trams but our ansaldo breda sirio trams are far worse in cornering ability. They both have rigid bogies but the citadis is 2 meters shorter and maybe weights less but for that im no sure.
However, the Belarusian tram BKM-843 can reach speeds of up to 100 km/h
I do not have the Alstom Citadis at my birthplace unfortunately
Stadler Citylink goes even faster in Hungary.
I watch this video too many times
only 45? i would think it could at least make it within the 50-60 mph mark
oh well i shouldn't be too ungreatful i mean this is probably the only line in which these trams will achieve their max speed since the lines they run on now are incredibly slow
It's this sydney?
Yes it is. This is the L1 Dulwich Hill Line.
This is Australia?
Yes, Sydney.
Этот трамвай очень быстрый!
Hahaha. Very nice Russian! It is fast!😆
@@artemstransportvlogs121 Спасибо!
Well that didn’t age well
I hope you did not ‘dob in’ this driver and cost him his job. I always hide the identity of my drivers just in case management considers they have done something wrong.
It’s all good. I didn’t mention anything about driver. I respect everyone on their jobs.
@@artemstransportvlogs121 Well you already said he was speeding. I think Citadis are limited to 60km/h, especially on the L1. And everyone at his depot would recognise him from your video.
@@tressteleg1 We are allowed to do 70km/h on the Citadis in this section but not all drivers will go exactly to line speed :)
@@peterc2407 Thanks for that. Maybe the limit has been lifted in the last 12 months since I was last there, maybe there were so 70k sections which I missed seeing. Anyway I will take a look next month when I plan to visit. Maybe you will be my driver.
@@tressteleg1 Yea it was lifted late last year and most of the speed limits are back to normal except for over the points.
Haha maybe I will !