Maximilian helmet vs. 155lb warbow, greatsword and Grond!!! (Aka great mace) smashy smashy!
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- This was truly a pleasure and honor for me as a follower went out of their own way to send and gift me with a helmet with the sole intention of seeing how it would perform. It was also amazing to see the design in action of the faceplate and the differences it made as much of what I had read theorized the benefits but I was able to see it in action. Hope you enjoy watching it as much enjoyed filming it.
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No wonder I never get any of my arrows back in those games. Makes sense now.
Hahaha yeah hard armor is not kind to arrows
The helmet actually performed better than I expected against the war bow. I just cant imagine getting clobbered with a gothic mace like that in real life....would take lots of mead and sweet rolls to recover from that.
I don’t think you are recovering from any blow to the head from that thing, even if you got the best armor lol
Just gotta chug some estus. You'll be _fine._ Trust me.
That Bodkin flying off in slow motion was epic
I know it was so cool 😂
It lookes awesome
Best historical presentations available. THANKS
Most welcome!
Excellent video!
Fluting can also increase the stiffness and strength of sheet steel.
Very true, excellent point. And thank you, glad you enjoyed it
Holy hell man, I've seen a lot of nerds beating on armor but your form is spot on, those were some devastating blows. Probably most of them were survivable on their own until you brought out Grond, that just hurt to watch. Really epic video.
Thanks for that my friend! It was an absolute blast to just let it rip. And yeah…Grond is an absolute monster 😂
Well now, that's an interesting design. The visor has some remarkable features. It's ability to deflect impact from various weapons is really ingenious.
Many thanks for the sacrifice of your arrows to demonstrate this unique piece of armored headgear!👍
Happily! Glad you enjoyed it
Please get a Warhammer with its classic spike for these videos. Would love to see that added in.
That’s next on the list for sure
@@dashrendar5320 awesome! Looking forward to it 💪
214k congratulations ❤🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thank you my friend!! Having wayyy to much fun haha
Awesome video as always say man
🌍🌟🔥
What an awesome want to learn history
Thank you as always. So glad you enjoyed it.
Wow that mace is awesome. Great video Dash!!!
Yes I love it haha. And thank you, glad you enjoyed the video
Awesome video! Can't wait for the next!
Thanks so much! So glad you enjoyed it
Every strike had me yelling "ooooooohh" lol
Hahah then I did it right
Thank you for your sacrifice to the arrow gods, Dash. I can relate😅.
Great video mate! Def did more damage than I expected.
16 gauge (1.6mm) may not not the best thickness for historical helmets, but it's also not outside the historical spectrum either.
The more tests we do the more insight we gather.
Thanks again, mate. This definitely reveals some new info and into the complex question of medieval weapons vs armor.
Haha it’s so painful to watch them snap…thank you though. So glad you enjoyed the video, it’s not historically accurate to be Certain but trying to be as close as possible as budget allows
All the girls watching this "there was armour?" Great video. I love that mace. Would be handy in Glasgow.
Hahaha, it is an amazing weapon indeed. I truly enjoy bringing it out
Well, I imagine Sean can rest easy now knowing his helmet would have kept him safe from anything short of a maniac with a two handed mace sneaking up behind him
Haha in that case no one would be safe
love your vids
Thank you for that my friend
Interesting 😮
The effect that the shape of the Visor had surprised me relly. I wonder if you could build a helmet that has this design all around.
Thank you for all the stuff you're sacrificing to discover the capabilities and limits of different protection. I love your Videos
It truly surprised me as well, it was super cool to see in person. You are most welcome, it is a true joy to share all this
Thanks for yours inspiration and your videos I wish you would live in the uk so I could hire you for some archery lessons, here my help to some arrows 💪🏼
Wow thank you so much my friend! Truly appreciated, maybe one day I will make it to the UK but again, thank you so much for your generosity
Keep the hard work amigo, we are all watching and enjoying each and every one of your videos!
As a Turk, I can say that you are a good archer, my friend, keep it up.👍🏻
Thank you kindly my friend. High praise coming from the land of master archers
Very in depth, well done Sir 👏
Thank you kindly! Glad you enjoyed it
Bro just like the main character coming out of the game
Haha broke out of the coding
That was great.
Thank you, so glad you enjoyed it!
Great videos you’ve been making. I am also a huge fan of ancient warfare and weaponary. I signed up for archery lessons just one and half months ago and your videos of challenging more and more powerful long bow played as a factor of my final decision to experience archery myself. One advice for melee weapon tests: perhaps you have strong faith in the quality of melee weapons from your arsenal, but wearing specific eye-protection goggles could be the last option of protection to you if the test doesn’t go as well as expected.
Thank you so much for that my friend, I am so thrilled that you are working on archery and garnering that strength! 💪🏹 that would be wise and possibly one day I will. I have had no accidents yes but you are right. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure
After seeing how well those flutes work, I think I'd be commissioning a blacksmith to make my whole armor fluted. 😂 I'd just have to stay away from maces.... haha
Haha words to live by
I think I'm going to start working on the pull.
Let’s go 💪🏹
There is a nice horse in the background before the first test. There were also mountains in the background during the side shots. I wish I could be like that follower, but I'm broke. I would have bought you that Mongolian bow.
That certainly's going to leave a mark on me
flutes are just like the old bar trick with balancing a shot glass on a bridge made from a dollar. flat dollar wont hold the shot glass up, but fold it like a fan/accordion, it increases the rigidity.
Excellent comparison
This guy is gonna blow up on YT
I’d love it if you could get one of those Indian Gadha maces and test out the damage against armor compared to Grond
That would be super cool to see
Yet another amazing video 🫡
I feel like getting hit with that sword, even with that helmet would probably break your neck, or at the very least cause a concussion 🫨🤯
Love your work Dash keep it up 😁👏🙏
Thank you, my friend. Always a joy to create the videos and share them. And yes, I would completely agree that it would most likely destroy a person 😂
6:20 also shows how the raised edges of the viewport kept the ricochet from sliding upward and into the eyes.
Yes very true
A helmet like this doesn't have two layers of padding and mail underneath. Bascinets in the 14th and 15h Century have the mail aventail attached directly to the edge of the helmet by vervelles. 16th Century helmets like the one you have in this test doesn't have a mail coif. It has just one layer of stuffed padding to stop chafing and reduce the blunt damage from non-penetrative weapons. It's not enough as a defense against trauma caused by a penetrating sharp point touching the cranium at that speed.
A headshot like the one at 09:07 will get in contact with the skull and cause damage. Either a mild to severe concussion, cranial fracture or penetrating head trauma. PHT is no joke! 70-90% of the victims die before they reaches hospital, and 50% of those that reach hospital expire. 20 Joules is enough to cause PHT. Remember, the average head is 5 kg (11 lbs) and the cranium is not soft like the foam target underneath the helmet. Foam give in and recover its shape, bone does not. 5 kg does not move out of the way when struck by a fast moving object like an arrow.
Mild steel is not a scientific term. The fracture toughness of mild steel can vary from 220 to 282 kJ/m2.
AISI 1005 = 220 kJ/m2, AISI 1010 = 229 kJ/m2, AISI 1015 = 237 kJ/m2, AISI 1020 = 246 kJ/m2, AISI 1025 = 256 kJ/m2, AISI 1030 = 265 kJ/m2, AISI 1035 = 275 kJ/m2, S235JRG2 = 282 kJ/m2. The last one is a steel with 0.175% carbon, 1.4% manganese, 0.3% Chromium, 0.3% Nickel and 0.08% Molybdenum. Even if the carbon percentage is low, the alloying elements make this steel better than the rest.
Bloomery steel in comparison has a fracture toughness of 180-210 kJ/m2, with 195 kJ/m2 as an average. In other words, if it takes 100 Joules to penetrate a plate with a fracture toughness of 195 kJ/m2, it would take 144.6 Joules to penetrate the same plate if the fracture toughness is 282 kJ/m2. On top of this, modern mild steel can be work hardened to increase the fracture toughness. Some of these steels can reach 300 kJ/m2 with some cold working.
If the arrowheads are 3/8" wide, as stated on the Cult of Athena page, they have sides which are 9.525mm. In other words, they are 13.47mm from edge to edge at the widest point. That's too broad! This will significantly increase the kinetic energy needed for full penetration! Chris Dawson is in possession of an arrowhead found at the Crécy battlefield. The widest part of this arrowhead (edge to edge) is only 87.78% as wide as the widest part of the socket. You can find a picture of this in Longbow by Mike Loads on page 24. I do not remember the socket diameter of the arrow, but if the socket is 11mm, the head is only 9.656mm from edge to edge. That is a significant difference.
These variables combined (arrowhead size, modern mild steel, too much padding, mail, light foam head) explain why the arrows do not penetrate all the way through. I'm usually straight to the point, so do not take this the wrong way. These variables matter more than what most people realize, and I want to keep it short an concise. It's not meant as criticism, it's purely information.
Grond! Grond! Grond! Grond! 😈
Grond!!
Please post your warbow and recurve arrow speeds.
Maybe I ask how far are you shooting? 20-15 meters?
It was 20 to 25 yards my friend
Even more than the penetration the impact of the blow and compression spine that the body would suffer from the overhand blows.
Yeah 100%
Sharing this with Hal Therion. IIRC he sells some of those helms.
Very cool!
@@dashrendar5320 check out Therion Arms.
When does the Leg workout video come up?
Working on back workout now…then leg next haha
Question, do we know, in general how far archers would have been from the hand to hand fighting? Be cool to know how much damage would be done from their average distance
Yeah, I want to set up longer stuff but my field is not quite big enough. I can do staggered shots from like 20, 20 and 40 yards Max but I can’t go back much farther than 45 yards
From what I’ve seen, while they can reach out to hundreds of yards, most of the shooting was done around a few dozen, so not an especially long distance. The English would deploy archers on the flanks of their infantry and men at arms so they can loose arrows at the enemy infantry engaged with theirs.
Really good shooting in this one man. Unless you edited out a whole bunch of misses, your accuracy was really on point. RIP to the arrows btw😅 Not sure if you've tried this or not, but it would be cool to see a speed shooting video with the heavy bows. If ya can get over 10 in a minute that would be very impressive. I'll set that as a challenge for ya. Should you choose to accept lol. 6+ is acceptable, 10+ is a pass 15+ is elite. Ya get 20+ (with full draw each time) and you win a mystery prize.
Thank you my friend. It depends how full the draw is. I can shoot relatively quick but they will not be drawn all the way back 😂
@@dashrendar5320 yea, thats the hard part, especially when ya have a long draw. That and knocking the arrows quickly without fumbling it lol
I’ve been wondering this for years and maybe you can help me. What is the difference between a mace and Morningstar or a warhammer and maul?
ich liebe deine videos.kannst du mal einen kriegshammer oder eine zweihad-axt an einem helm testen ?
One day I hope to get those weapons, but I do not have them in my arsenal yet
Did you name your mace after the battering ram from Lord of the Rings
Yes. It’s kind of two-part. It’s the name of the battering ram, but that was also the name of Morgoths mace, or Warhammer. People are not entirely certain what his weapon was.
Can it be that all the energy of the arrow isn't transferred to the target because the shaft will break before? So, if the shaft wouldn't break, the arrow could penetrate deeper? I also watched some arrow makers video and he said that shafts are barrelled, I think to make them more front heavy, if I remember correctly. But could it be to make them less likely to break on impact? All Dash's arrows broke near the socket.
A comment for the algorithm
Thank you kindly
bro u look like Alexios from assassin's Creed
High praise! Thank you
Will you do a recap on your time at wars of the barons?
Yeah, I think I might. I have a couple fun shorts about it but I don’t know if I’m gonna do a full length video on it maybe once they get more videos and photos sent to us than I can.
Dash,where did. you get this Arrowhead?
Kult of Athena
once again grond is undefeated
Haha the undisputed victor!!
I want an npc with 2 intelligence, but 20 strengh, named Grond. 😂
Hahah that’s an amazing idea
The Worldrecord for Longbow lies by 200 LBS of 32 Inches!
Indeed. That has always been my ambition and goal to try and beat that record, but it’s very very hard haha
Coloque um watermellon dentro para testar impactos .
Bugurtsman on vacation😂
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Fyi, I’m pretty sure the original helm that this one’s based on had much more fluting including on top, sides, and back so a more accurate reproduction would have handled those hits even better with than this one did
Agreed. Hopefully one day I’ll be able to get better historical representations, but for now its history channel on a shoestring budget 😂
@@dashrendar5320 You still have better production quality than History Channel on their best day. I remember they did an episode of longsword vs katana and the “armor” they used was hot garbage plus the “longsword” was a BLUNT Hanwei Tinker longsword so they ended up coming to the conclusion that the katana was better at thrusting through armor!!!
I really hate criticizing that episode because it was hosted by R Lee Ermy who I absolutely love but the producers really gave him terrible gear to work with
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Hello there
I was wondering what a 4 foot Numenorean arrow would do to that helmet but then you bust out 'Ye Old Faithful' Mace and I got the answer. And that big smile on your face told me you enjoyed the results too, ha! ...Now how good would that helmet be if it had the ridges all over?
Credit to Shaun/Sean for the donation!
You wield Grond better than Morgoth!
That’s the highest praise that can be bestowed 💪💪 even though he is….like pure evil 😂
Mace is mongol favorite weapon..cos it can smash armor
Very nice video! However I have to point out that historically acurrate replica of helmet would perform much better. (this one is out of shape, too thin, and made of mild steel)
Oh most certainly, i tried to make sure I was very clear about the dimensions and type of steel so people didn’t think it was a full historical replica. I think the padding and the mail underneath helped to make it more authentic but it’s not a true historical test.
You do realise that helmets in the medieval period were not standardised. Poorer soldiers would have had mild steel, even iron helmets.
And they would have had varying thicknesses. Not every armour piece was top quality and thickness
@@TA-yw7ce Thats true! I agree, however properly made replica is still really incomperable to thin mild steel, welded helmet produced by Indians. Looking at the shape I can tell that even wooden stick would break it. (I tried it myself). This video is made for fun, you cannot treat it as reliable experiment on durability of medical armor. Cheers!
They used to wear a coif under the helm sometimes with a pelerine right? Great video!
Yes. I tried to replicate that with the padding and the rivited mail
Great stuff man! Whoever made that helm did an amazing job!
@eative Well, to my eye its a rather cheap Indian-made replica made of mild seel. The shape is not correct at all. The proper historically accurate replica probably would perform much better.
@@ThePawciosyeah, the shaping of this helmet isn’t great. It should be shaped much closer to the form of the head.
lol... looked nice to me... until the warbow, sword and mace got to it! LOL
I thought you were shirtless as a reference to the ancient tribe who fought naked .
If you were placed 800 years ago, you would be the star of the battlefield. Imagine a sling against the helmet.
would have liked to see you wear the helmet before it got destroyed ;)
Haha was too excited to break it! Could not wait
It would be awesome to see if bamboo arrows make any difference
I think Tod's work shop test is wrong
I would not go that far. They did use very well
Made custom armor which would be available to the richer knights and warriors but I think his is very well done
Pięknie zniszczyłeś hełm, zapomniałeś że ponad połowa twoich ciosów mieczem była zabójcza dla karku pod hełmem a każdy cios maczugi to złamany kark
that is not a close helmet. A close helmet is a type of armet opening from the front and not from the sides. here it's a maximillian style sallet (and it's not combat grade by the look of it). Nothing historical, but still entertaining. I looks like sheet metal and sounds like it.
Fun fact :
Its name in french is "Salade" which also means...salad in french.
I did not know that 😂
All hits after 10:35 were fight enders IMO, most of them would have ended the wearer. Team tactics by footmen swarming a knight would allow the heavy weapon wielder to land the blow ...
Yeah I am sure those would all be near fatal
Knights didn’t fight alone. They were either mixed in with other infantry when on foot, or with large numbers of other knights and men-at-arms. The only time a situation like you described would likely happen would be during a route or when their formation has otherwise collapsed.
@@Specter_1125 yes: smart, well-prepared and well-resourced knights lived to fight another day. Not-so-smart knights, not-so-much. That squire has got to got your back.
Some medieval helmet and armour are not polished
Renayyyssance. Queue How I met your mother clip 😂
Haha I messed up like 10 times trying to say it somewhat correctly