Shōgun Sword: The Hunt For The Lost Samurai Blade | Myth Hunters
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- The Honjo Masamune is perhaps the greatest Japanese sword ever made. Forged in the 13th century by the great swordsmith Masamune it became the ceremonial sword of the ruling Tokugawa shoguns for 250 years. After their fall from power in 1868 the great sword continued to be passed down the generations into the 20th century, but in the aftermath of the Second World War it disappeared.
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Fantastic video. When I was living in Victorville Ca. I saw an ad in the local paper to bring your Japanese swords to this hotel for valuation, I sat outside in the lobby from the room I saw Japanese men looking at swords that American veterans were bringing in, this went on for a number of years, I was living there in 1986, I had a sword that I had bought in Hawaii in 1977, but did not want to give it up.
What a beautiful story of a wonderful work of art yet to be discovered
I grew up with a Japanese kid who’s American name was Joe but his parents pronounced it Cho and use to call our friend Jody coldly. Coldly Bimore is probably Joe Lee Sizemore. Even found a Joe Lee Sizemore who was a veteran in WW2. Regardless I would almost guarantee that when the Japanese emperor showed up and delivered the swords, it was taken by someone who knew its historic value. They even say that some men stashed their prized swords and had replicas made in their place. The reason nobody has confessed is because not only would they have tarnished the honor of their family but there’s a good chance Japan would confiscate it from the person in possession of it now. Nothing good or positive would happen from revealing it so why do it?
One day a few years back I bought a vintage table top tobacco humidor and it was full of stuff then on top old flatware back with age.
I got the box for $42 and when I went through it I found amazing finds.
In the box of treasure I got There was an original babe Ruth baseball card and a Sholess Joe Jackson and a Ty cob inside .
There was also 2 full sets of old Tiffany flatwere and some ww1 medals and some gold.
There were more things in that tobacco box but the best thing of all was a 1969 T-25 Pepsi bezel Rolex.
My point is that if I can have such a find means the sword can also be found one day.
I was just about to type that it’s two bad someone cant find a starting point to help find the sword but then it hit me as to where to start looking .
If it was the best samurai sword ever made it makes sense we don’t know where,
It would be the one sword you don’t want to surrender above all others.
The Officer's name is Cole D B Moore (1912 - 1979). He was an officer in the 7th cavalry. He enlisted in 1942. He died at the age of 69. He is the only man listed, anywhere in the USA, from that specific time, who fought in WW2, Who went to Japan, with those specific details. Certainty: 100%. That IS the man named in this documentary. My suspicion is that the sword is buried with him, in his grave, at Christian Home Baptist Church Cemetery, Wilcox County, Georgia, USA.
My suspicion is that his young grandsons found it in his office at display one day in 1971. And took it out behind barn to try it out on an old rusten barrel. I know I would have done that as a kid, national priceless treasure or not.
@@plurplursen7172 You would have done that, because, as a kid, you wouldn't know any better. None of us would. I used to mess around with wooden swords as a kid. Now that I can use real ones, the wow factor is just out of this world, comparing a real sword to wooden junk that kids use, now that we've learned to appreciate things in our maturity. I just think that it's buried with him, because he's a cavalry officer. Every time I think about Cavalry Officers, I think about wars like the Crimean, men on horseback, sabres being swung around. It's all really quite romanticised. The fact is that no cavalry officer is ever going to have a standard issue Sabre that is better than the Masamune. That's just not going to happen. I think that he bought it back with him, since he was allowed to bring one sword back, that he replaced his standard issue sword with the Masamune, and that he later died with it in his possession. He'll likely be buried in his military uniform, with all the equipment that he was granted, as an officer, while he was serving in WW2. I honestly do think that the sword is buried with him, and that it will likely never see the light of day again, not unless his coffin is exhumed and examined. Even then, it's no guarantee. It's just a gut feeling.
@@cadderley100 I think they asked his love ones for info about his time in Japan, and the Katana. Nothing came up. But, if it is buried with him, it's gone, or deteriorated to a state that it would not look like a katana anymore I am afraid. I would be furious if some collector is hiding it for the world! Legendary objects like that, shall never be owned by a single person I think. It would be like hiding Gandalfs staff or Merlins sword. The Rusten barrel theory just hurts to think about. Your theory feels much better.
@@plurplursen7172 Without evidence, it is just a theory, they all are. That's what is painful about it. I would love for a theory, any theory, to be conclusively proven, one way or another, because, all I want to do is find that sword, and then return it to Japan, where it belongs. Did they? I was unaware about that. I didn't know that someone had asked his family. I know how you feel. I would also be furious if it were in the possession of a selfish private collector. That Sword, if it exists, should be in a museum, preferably in Japan. Even then, even if they did ask his family, that doesn't automatically mean that they know. Also, they might have lied about it, to stop people from trying to interfere with the man's grave etc. The only way that you could ever find out, is by examining the grave, which would be close to grave robbery, and of a serviceman as well. I imagine that a good amount of people would be uncomfortable performing an exhumation, with good reason, just to prove or disprove a theory. If the sword is there, perhaps it is best to leave it there? If these caskets are air tight, the sword would be protected against corrosions, so it should be well preserved. It will only be when we start messing around with it, that it would become subject to damage. Either way, it is my gut feeling, my gut instinct, that the sword does exist, still. I do hope that it is found one day, but I hope that it is found under the right circumstances. I don't want to think that it has been found, only because someone has opened Cold D B Moore's tomb up, deliberately just to test a theory. The man deserves his rest. He earned that much at least, due to his service in WW2.
time go go get the shovel
A thrilled watching video about that cultural, literature, and historical figure in Japanese swords . A sword legendary evaporated beneath flames and dust of two American nuclear bombs ...
if Tokugawa Brought Peace to Japan for almost 3centuries it only means He is a Greater Ruler than The Emperor!
Hopefully it was recognised for what it was and taken to the emperor of Japan and hidden away
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I do agree with you
My grandfather was at WWII during the raising of the Flag at Iwo Jima. I wonder if he got a sword from Japan. The only thing I got was his military trunk a bayonet, and a rg10 German pistol. I'm curious to look in the attic of his home when I am done with my overseas tour in Japan. My grandfather sadly passed when I was 16 so I hadn't asked the military questions that I have now for him.
12:58 That's one wobbly tsuba on that katana!
I heard that after WW2 general MacArthur had all swords be turned in. The museum honored that request and turned it and others in to the Americans.
Probably it's in America. Your policy is any sword that you check for authenticity and it
Turns out authentic you keep it. I suggest offer a reward.
Whoever took it probably has died. You'll have people here looking for it for the reward.
Hope you get it back. Good luck.
My grandfather was in Navy in WW2 and said he saw them dump many, many crates of swords into the sea after the war.
I like the fact that the blade curves when Quenching. Every Body look in your attic loft it might be there. 😊
If it is it NEEDS to be returned.
I saw a documentary that showed a blunt sword going through the rolled up mats just as easily. It was PBS Nova, 'Secrets of the Viking Sword '.
I train sword, a kenjutsu art(Koryu). We do train "Tameshigiri"- tatami mat cutting. Even with a sharp sword, it is difficult. You can actually tell much of the skill by the trajectory of the cut- straight, curved smooth, torn etc. A good instructor can determine if you are not gripping correctly(there is actually a grip motion called tsuka shime) or dropping your shoulder, etc. just by looking at the cut. It's really not as easy as many think. Knowing the struggles I have had actually doing this over several years, it is really difficult for me to believe a blunt sword would go through a wet rolled tatami mat at all, or at least without completely smashing/tearing it's way through roughly. A correct cut should leave a straight/flat, smooth cut path. This is the actual point in any case-to test the skill of the swordsman-to go through correctly, not just to go through. I'm sure one could use a Walmart machete to cut through a mat, however, what's the point?
@@Ragingmarmot Indeed, the tatami mat cut with the blunt sword was shredded! Good point!
Rome vs Japan 🗾
Quite well made story. Sadly, that sword probably wont be seen again.
My grandfather was in the Pacific in WW2 and told me they dump crates and crates of Japanese swords into the ocean back then.
wonder if they are still there and retrievable?
@@durangodave they sadly rust very easily. Several decades in sea water there might not be much left. My grandfather brought back a type 99 rifle and bayonet but man I wish he grabbed one of those samurai swords instead
if ever found we need to give it back to them for free as stolen art. That is the honorable thing to do.
I think Japan should surrender it for all the atrocities they did. "Honourable"?Japan forfeited that in ww2
@@paulmilsommusic war is ugly on both sides, there were atrocities on both sides. That has nothing to do with their treasures.
I'm on your side on that . I totally agree.
... they act like this is the only sword the Master Swordsmith ever made ...
... "You don't compare a Masamune sword to another Masamune sword. ... you compare it to every other sword ever made."
Why didn't they just hide them
Because of the Japanese culture of obedience
How many times are yall gonna reupload the same video??
Well, as this is the first time we’ve published this documentary, probably once? 🤔
Ive seen this video elsewhere too. You sure it wasn't Timeline?
Chronicles- Medieval History Documentaries about 3 months ago
I hope its never found for the simple fact that they wouldn't allow it to return with who ever currently owns it.
Wait, so basically King Arthur came to turn in Excalibur, and many other famous swords, to one of his own at the police station, knowing that the "invader" who is coming to collect them for destruction, hours/days(?) later, has no idea what they're collecting, and.. that actually happened? The whole entire police station didn't hear about him walking in as soon as he walked in, and no one came to have a look at the famous swords while they were there waiting to be collected, and without anyone figuring to at least hide the Japanese actually real Excalibur??
Probably locked up in the Smytsonian😅
I hope not they are knowen to destroy artifacts so history books don't have to be redone. Those people are crooks of the worst kind
I reckon the Masamune is still in Japan & rightly so
Saved it by taking it to America
Ofcorse
Let's be honest for once, Axis and Allies fleeced all conquered territories, as has been done throughout history. Welcome to earth 🌎
Samurai was bring to japanese by kubilai khan, genuine sword from Indonesia
Not a minite in, i cant even 😂😂😂
Try asking Rick Harrison maybe he'll give you some clue 😁😜
As remembrance higher ranking of karate was present by samurai
So basically Japan doesnt want to find this sword by their rules.....they deserve to lose it forever.......
Samurai who serve by shogun called syugyosha, soliter vice versa
A legendary Asian sword in a age of Shogunate.
In short, the Honjo Masamune sword was stolen by a stupid,lowly American Sargeant who doesn't care about the sword's splendid legacy.
I don't agree, but let's say you are correct 😉
Once it disappeared, Japan recognises,
"Honjo" is gone!
We need to find it, they cry! The Agency for Cultural Affairs and other seekers release a description, printing it in many books.
Still, it has not returned after all these years. So we blame the dumb Americans! Yes, they are to blame that it never returned!
Let me share with you a little secret known to only a few in Japan including only one of the big shinsa groups. The information is secret, so don't expect to get an answer from them on the subject.
The description the Cultural Affairs Agency has on their official page, and the ones in the sword books will never help you find anything except an imaginary sword.
That is why it's lost to the world.
It will never be found until it enters Japan and judged. I have heard it's in the USA. It is one of Masamune's first swords and very Unusual.
It cannot be recognised by looking at the shape first. The steel is key.
Because of this problem, was Honjo given away freely ?
How is something stolen when the description of the missing item is incorrect?
If Japan prints Truth, their beloved sword will return. I know these things.
It ended up in a Tarantino movie
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Most Western documentaries, especially US and UK disrespect other countries' cultures they are featuring by not pronouncing names or words as it should be pronounced by the locals.
They don't pronounce western names and terms very well, either. It isn't disrespect.
@@mikesheehan4470 when other culture mispronounce their words, don't they correct/criticise? Do not do unto others what you don't want others do unto you.
So if you mispronounce a name or word you are Disrespectful?! People tend to do the best they can when it comes to another language. If you think that you can make a similar video and do it better than I would Love to see it. Just don't make Any Mistakes because That might mean You are being Disrespectful!!!
@maryleoboldt6100 lol, my point exactly. It is a documentary. It was done with loads of planning and was given ample time to be put together. And still, they end up mispronouncing? You must be one of the hundreds of people who contributed to this work based on how you reason out. Lol
I believe the sword will reappear at the key time in miltary history not far off when Japan assumes it military mantle.
Sounds like making any cutting tool
Interesting video, but the poor pronunciation of Japanese names, etc. detracted from the material.
Meanwhile every TV announcer carefully overpronounces Spanish names in a fake Mexican accent 😂
Accents often make things sound different. Have you heard a Brit say “aluminum”?
I know, right? Why is he even speaking Engrish?...😮
Good grief! I've studied, Chinese, Vietnamese , Italian, German and Japanese. For a non native speaker. Give the dude a break!
Get off you high horse !
It was never turned in by the Shoguns.
Every time he mentions the blade it sounds like he's struggling to order a curry.
We don't need Masamune.
We have anime.
"Dropped A nuclear b..mb"!!! Last time i checked before this doc it was TWO nuclear b..mbs
British people.. make a documentary about masamune.. never learn how to pronounce masamune 😆
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So is someone is gona do something about that and also I will love to see her standing in courtroom her to listen to her 10 or 20 years in prison sentence
And even after such humiliation, Japan is still a US puppet...Cheers to the Japanese honour 🤣🤣🤣
FAFO 1941
Honor*
great subject, terrible drama show.
Guess you shouldn’t have lost
Foremost formerly Javanese has no any sword
Was used any combatan head to head. As usual at war by another blade
And no mention of Japan stealing Chinese traditional of hardening technique …so biased