Half Sisters Confront the Impact of Father's Infidelity | Family Empire: Houston | OWN
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I agree. Dad is the "outside" person, who didn't care about his his actions impacted others.
The resentment felt when being called an "Outside child" by the kids who got to benefit from their Parent who stayed, is STRONG!!!!
It’s disrespectful and dumb tbh. And she articulated it well. Her mom put up with the abuse and a man that didn’t love her and they have the nerve to be calling the baby “the outside child”. The sperm donor was “outside”. That child is yall sister. Smh
@nuimproves6906 Thanks you spoke the truth the father was outside willingly giving sperm
@@nuimproves6906 absolutely correct!
I don’t hear resentment about the facts. I hear one making herself feel better and superior and making her feel outside. I hear resentment about that.
@@nuimproves6906she was very diplomatic in the way she put it. Very demure. Very not rubbing her nose in it but saying what needed to be said. Lol
The dad had two girl friends he wasn't married. She is not an OUTSIDE child. The dad failed all three of them because he didn't lead the union of his children!
I have this in my family. My uncle juggled 2 women and had children like this: 1a in 12/69, 1b in 09/70, 2a in 10/71, 3a in 10/72, 4b in 08/74, 5a in 08/78 and 6c in 04/17. He got married around 70’/71’ to Lady A. He’s still married to A but had a baby with a totally different chick in ‘18. He is 76 this year. 🤦🏾♀️.
@@charissedennis4053 WoW 🤦🏽♀️
@@IAMTERESELACOLE right! Imagine growing up with this dynamic! Lol.
Wow! Is there a 3rd one?
@@aundrakohlheim7115 yes.
Someone send this to Cam Newton & Nick Cannon
Nick has multiple children by those ladies who all agreed he had no outside children when he was Married to Mariah ijs 🤷🏽♀️
100
@shaylove5439 still dysfunctional asf for his teenage daughter to watch..but this is the anything goes era those kids will be affected (nik cannon)
Whoop there it is 😂😂😂😂
@@LuxeMindsetVibes SEND IT TO RESHEEDA FROST!
All three of them are sisters with an outside dad!!!!
Yeah, he definitely was outside!!! 🤦🏽♀️
Agreed!
😮😮😮😮
❤❤❤ facts
Basically
Dad created a situation that he left the children to deal with. There should be no issues between the ladies due to them both being victims of circumstance.
Should but not I feel the tension the outside child does not feel that she is on the place or was giving the value that she deserves 🧐 just look at the body language 😳
@odrisrosario2465 totally agree..body language was the first thing I noticed!
The dad was outside....that's the whole problem....very common.
SAD BUT SO TRUE & RIGHT SO COMMON💯
I love that, don’t put the child “outside” Daddy was the one outside! 🤣🤣
😂 a fact
Thiiiiiiissssss 🎯
Yes. The dad was outside not the kids
Not sure what show this but I hope these sisters heal. Adults can cause so much mess by not making wiser decisions and the kids are usually the victims 😢
It says Family Empire Houston on OWN....
If he wasn’t married at the time she is NOT an outside child … she just his Second Child by a different woman.
@@triniD25 “IF “
@@Hahaha-m7l I totally agree! She is not
The “father” was married at the time and there’s another clip of the outside child, speaking with the wife.
@@1JewelOfTheNileand he wasn't married to neither woman.
@@believer1715 I just said there’s another video of the girl speaking with the wife.
Keisa had a STRONG mom. Period. She left that alone. Keisha is a strong woman as well. Hearing that YOU are an outside child and recognizing that the narrative's delivery is the basis of that situation and looking beyond that because you know the truth. That is STRENGTH! 🙌🏾🙏🏾💪🏾
Thank God!!! We didn’t do the half/step sibling thing. We had a similar situation. But, as kids all we were taught was that we were siblings and to this day. My brother by my dad that is 14 months older than my brother that I share a mom and a dad with are the best of friends.
Well their father didn’t marry either mom so they both to me outside children! The right term is half siblings! Daddy was a rolling stone
Technically, they were both children created outside of marriage.
Exactly
Thanks for clarifying because I don't follow their show
@@believer1715..not
No such thing as half siblings. You either is or not. 🤦🏽♀️
The therapist used the term "outside" not the half sibling. She repeated it several times, however the sister referred to the other young lady as her sister.
You have the best listening skills. Say it louder so the people in the back can hear.
Exactly!
@@nh3854She asked her how she felt being called the outside child… somebody not listening that well.
If you watch the series that's what they have called her. "HOW DO YOU FEEL WHEN SHE CALLS YOU THE OUTSIDE CHILD"
@@tomaradoss3420no! She said “there was an outside child that was born” AND she asked “how does it make you feel her using the term outside child”
Dad was not married to either mom at the time. Nicole's mom decided to still deal with him after Keisha was born a few months after having Nicole. Now they may have married after that but even the aunts admit he was messing with both women
If this isnt my story and because of my dad, I've always been the hated child. I understand how the sis feels. I felt the energy with the outside child statement. At the end of the day, its not your fault. You had nothing to do with the situation. Blessings to you!
Girl there's ALOT of us! 😢
These men! My sister & I talk but it's awkward. Now our dad is gone...it's weird..
@@IwaanuhReel I can't imagine how you feel. I hope you find peace. Stay blessed!
@@IwaanuhReelIt’s okay not to force it. There are people who are siblings (same mother and father), who have nothing in common and don’t talk. I’ve come to learn that family isn’t just blood relatives, there are chosen family as well.
@@CambieSweets, I'm that person. My Dad has multiple children from Marriage and being "Him", hearing words like that are not just Triggers, it's just plain Rude!
@@NicolaJenkins-ey5ynI don’t understand. Which types of words are triggering to you?
Glad they are having this conversation.
I am so glad she corrected that
Your dad's infidelity shouldn't define you as an outside child and neither should this therapist label you as such. You are sisters and share the same blood from your dad. Love each other like the world is ending tomorrow ❤❤❤
It’s outside his marriage….shes an outside child.
Outside is a word that implies less than, we could say additional. That's how I reference those situations.
How do we value any child⁉️🤔
But she is the outside child
**Outside** child, is the term for a child born Outside if the Marriage. However, *no marriage = no Outside child*; just ANOTHER child..another term used for children conceived my unmarried couples is a *Love Child*( ( check Diana Ross🎶🎤🎶👶🏽)...1/2 sisters? Not Factual..you are Sisters. Or go to court with SOLOMON's Wisdom and which 1/2 is your sister? Top half? BOTTM half, Right half? Left half?...gets Ridiculous people are WHOLE Beings, PeriodT.😇🔥🕵🏽♀️💯‼️⚖️👸🏽👸🏽🎓
He was not married to either women at the time. @jasmineiam
Omgosh..I thought i was the only one..I DONT CONSIDER MYSELF AS AN OUTSIDE CHILD..AND THANK GOD NEITHER DO YOU..SAY IT LOUD..❤❤❤
I really appreciate the show for showcasing this and showing how the women of the family brought them together. Realizing the mother married into the family and it was his sisters who brought them together is huge to me.
And noting Joy & their Dad were not married when Nicole & LaKeisha were born. So “outside” child needs to be dropped 🤷🏾♀️ Yes, shout out to the Aunties for looking out for their nieces.
@@EJ-gy5jm absolutely! That point was already made when I read through the comments so I wanted to contribute something else to the conversation
They were not married when the kids were born.
At what point do you forgive the past and get on with your life??? Thank God you made it to earth! Be Blessed and Live In It 🙏
If the man married had a child with another woman the child is outside not part of the marriage conceived outside of that union
That’s my thought process too. Only if there was a marriage. If it wasn’t a marriage then she isn’t an outside child but I guess if a couple is living together and everyone knows they are a couple then it would be easy to call another child an outside child because the child is outside the house (I guess would be another rationale that doesn’t make sense to me).
It don’t appear he was married, the “outside” child insinuated that her mother chose not to put up with his bullcrap and left him alone and the other one mother stayed with him. It sounds like he settled if he couldn’t continue to play with both of them.
💯@@tammydavis8331
One sister's mom lived with him but neither moms were married to him.
A man with a woman and family who he lives with has a side chick… the side chick and main chick are pregnant at the same time… if her mom was the other woman then that makes her an outside child but she said it as though her mother was dating him first therefore her mom was never the side chick meaning she was not the outside child
Keisha called it what it is. He had 2 children on the way by 2 different women. She’s NOT an outside child. Joy is very mean and spiteful so it’s not surprising that she didn’t encourage bubba to have Keisha in their household
That is it!!!!!…we all know a Joy like his sister said you took that man in and forgave him you should accept his child and them girls know they momma dead wrong it’s not disrespectful to correct elders and they definitely need to check Joy
@@connieh5686She didn’t have to accept anything in my opinion. Like why should she.?If she was his exclusive girlfriend then I would consider her an outside child.
@@munaabdi1503 you would consider, but that’s not the definition. He was not married, they were BOTH born illegitimate.
I heard the first sister speaking say “ANOTHER CHILD” very clearly. The therapy was the first one to use the term “Outside Child” in this clip
The therapist was only quoting what she had been told by the older sister. The term "outside child" is the term that the older sister's family used to refer to the younger sister. The term is like an one upmanship negative label.
Dam shame smdh
@@drucella5581thank you. The “outside child” came from the older sister and her mother’s family. The therapist didn’t make it up.
@@UnicornFamiliaBut the therapist didn't hear it from Nicole during the session so why would she use the term first. The therapist shouldn't have any backstory (what the family says) but the one given during the session.
@@msp9810 you do realize people fill out history forms before they see the therapist right? It asks for family history, medical history, psychiatric history, etc. BEFORE entering the session. She is quoting someone. She didn’t make it up.
That's wrong I agree she is not the outside child. Their dad was just a rolling stone. This right here affect the children.
He was married. She’s an outside child.
@@jasmineiamplain and simple. People get offended by this bc they are usually fatherless or products of affairs
@@jasmineiamthey weren’t married. He even said it himself. He was just sleeping with both of the women at the same time. Nicole’s mother chose to stay.
@@jasmineiam They we’re not technically married, so she’s not an outside child.
Nicole's mom really brainwashed her into thinking she was more loved,wanted or valuable than the other sister. I'm glad Keisha corrected her. ❤
After listening to the other woman, I understand why she feels that type of way maybe the other sister made her feel like she was less than because he was with her mom and not in relationship with the other girls mom blessing to them both hoping they can find their way to have a relationship because they are sisters
Your not an outsider, Your a Queen Also, never let no one make you feel less value or below them. You both are Strong, Stick together, you guys have a bond. Your Sisters Period💯
I think they should have a meeting with their father
I’m three days older than one of my brothers. He always brings up the past because of what his mother shared about his experience. I particularly don’t care because what happened between those adults have absolutely nothing to do with me.
It actually does have everything to do with you, if you are being dismissive of his experience.
@@deahbyv2733no the hell it don’t. That was choices made by the adults not the children
@@deahbyv2733what did she do in the situation,be born? How is that her issue to discuss?
It is her story of origin, her creation story, and as you see she chose to bring her story up when this particular topic popped off. She is at no fault for her parent's actions, however it does impact so much about her. @TheodoreBakes
This the comment right here, my thoughts exactly lol....they putting to much into this and holding on ti something that had nothing to do with neither of them. What's the reasoning for them being in therapy? You should see my face watching the clip. It's four other children that's not my mothers, AMANDA NONE IF EVER THOUGHT OF EACH OTHER AS OUTSIDE NOR STEP, NONE IF THOSE TERMS. We're brothers and sisters smh.
Daddy is for the streets! Leave him there!
When I heard her say "outside child", I cringed before I heard the other sister's statement. It feels like a very negative phrase to describe a person that had nothing to do with their parents' behaviors, decisions and results due to these factors.
Don't blame Nicole, she just probably going by what her mom told her
Negative terms are created when negative things happen... like her father cheating on her mother and creating a child outside of the marriage. It's not right, but it is what it is 🤷🏾♀️.
@@rassjnrin this clip, I heard the therapist say outside child. But the sister is NOW a grown woman and she NOW decides what to say. So she can change that... regardless of what is said by others.
It just means the child was born outside of a marriage.
@@Codi892 thank you. I know what it means. My point is, it causes hurt to the child that has no control being born. All that person knows is that they are on this earth regardless if one of the adults or both of the adults were having more than one relationship when they were suppose to be committed to person. The woman in this clip obviously does not like that term.
So he was dating 2 women at the same time and later decided to settle with one
That's how I'm understanding this situation. There was no marriage until after they were born.
Yes, she wasn't a side child
That’s how I interpreted because the older sister would’ve said my parents were married and got two women pregnant at the same time.
He was staying with one of them at the time, and was cheating with the other one.
There’s another clip that I watched before this one and he was married.
The wife just stayed.
She was an outside child. No matter how you want dress it up; it is what it is.
No she wasnt. Neither women married him. Like she said thats 2 women sleeping with one man
How is she the outside child? He married neither women, yes he was living with the older sisters mom but was an active parent in the younger sisters life. So if anything they can both be labeled outside (outside of their household)
I have a few "half" siblings. My dad was out there. He has 8 daughters, 4 of them he shares with my mother.
I thank God my parents never had me look at them as lesser than or had me involved in the bs.
All my sisters are my sisters, pointblank. I love them. ❤
If a child was created outside a marriage union that's an outside child. But no marriage he just has children by different women's
There was no marriage... not sure why this is hard to understand
I’m that “other child”. I can so relate. Thank goodness me and my two sisters get along regardless.
I love the energy with the one with the locks. She is so real. She is so unstickup!! She is being herself
Obviously the sister is more mad than the mother was at the situation since she decided to stick around. It’s neither sister/child fault so let it go or go to the therapy with your father who actually caused this dynamic.
Do not victimise her, she is not the one who made a decision to be born in that circumstance. Love each other. You never know what is ahead of you.
They don’t have to call her outside child it’s very belittling and dismissive. The therapist should’ve corrected that right away not say it herself and trigger the poor woman. WTH is this??
Not in this moment, because they are sharing their experiences. She asked her how that makes her feel which leads me to believe that they will work through that and make the correction.
But the sister said “another child” the therapist used the term “outside”
Drama for reality tv…that’s what it is.
They are only 4 months apart... I thought there were years of a difference... the sister in the orange looks really young and youthful 🙌
I wld've thought the sis with the orange blouse was younger....For the other sis, a lot of makeup does make a person look older
I actually like this show
She was an outside child. Outside of the household, outside of the marriage/relationship however you want to put it.
But who is to say which household he was active in and would be considered the main home? Men have their ways and some women will stick around just to feel like they won
@@TheodoreBakesthe marriage makes it an outside child, no matter who he is with. The marriage trumps all.
@@veronicacarteredwards4619 but in this case, he wasnt married so doesn't apply. And if the child was conceived before the marriage happened then still doesn't apply.
@@veronicacarteredwards4619there was no marriage at the time smh people are not comprehending smh
This is utterly disgusting, yet sooo common...
She is not an outside child! Your dad was just for the streets. They should be ashamed for making her feel that way.
She was the result of an infidelity incident which technically made her the outside child of an marriage, such a hard and unfair situation for not only the women involved but the children this was created by the father, but at least their trying to work through the issue.
I agree but they were not married he had 2 girlfriends he even admitted that.
Period!
They were both born illegitimate. Everybody is “outside”. 🥴
Right! She needed to be corrected. She should have said “their mom was foolish enough to stay with him.”
"Outside child" refers to when a person has an additional child outside of their marriage. Therefore she is not an outside child!
You can see the pain in both of their eyes…… anger in the first sister and sorrow in the second sister!….. but weather your mad at dad or hurt by his actions, you have got to forgive him and move on so that you might live🔥👍🏿🤷🏿♂️
She literally is the outside child. Not her fault but it's true
How sway???? Her mom was a gf at the time just like Joy sooooohow sway?
It was the therapist that used the word “ outside child” not her sister
The therapist quoted what she had been told either prior to the session or off camera. She didn't make up that scenario without someone giving her those details
Where was dad for this conversation? He needs to be there to explain. He is the missing component when the disagreements occur!
I can definitely relate and it’s even sadder when you have no sibling bond or connection with the outside sister. It’s more of an associate relationship. Yet, we both talk to our dad often.
The outside child is a child that does not live in the home with the father. That’s an actual term. It’s not to be offensive that child lives outside of the household.
It is offensive!
All the men out there hopping around and dropping seed like a farmer need to see the damage they create for their children
My first cousins used to call me an outside child. It's destructive to the child's development. Men need to grow up and stop destroying their children.
If it's true it's true damn.... the father need to be there to deal with his bs that's not the kids now adults fault 🙄 men and women need to be honest please stop living double lives
Fathers don’t address things like this. Just add another kid and stir, however it shakes out the “outside” kid has to deal with it. It’s not cool or fair. The child had nothing to do with what the adults did!!
He's not there because he doesn't even want the "outside" child around. Her aunt actually had to bring her around
@@Shegotscentsand this makes him what? You say this like it’s a good thing. I say this as someone born to married parents. If my father did this I would hold him accountable and there would be no referring (on my part) to my sibling as outside anything. This will only stop when men are held accountable for their deceit. The child has absolutely nothing to do with the actions of the parents.
The therapist said outside child ! Not the sister .
I still feel that she was outside because she made it seem as if her mother was in relationship with her sisters father whom she called Dad … so your outside if your mother never had a relationship with him ..and he was in a multi year relationship
Whaaaaaaat..... making stuff up smh
Papa was a rolling stone…wherever he rest his head was his home. Papa stayed with the one that stayed
Yesss, Speak facts!!!
Outside child simply means that Keisha became the child that was outside of the home her father eventually created with the mother of his other children. In that regard I became an outside child, even thought my parents were married when I was born.
I can assure you that Keisha looks more like her dad then the sister
Well, from this video, the therapist is the one that use the term outside child. The first young lady to speak said we are sisters. The therapist put a label on it. 🤦🏾♀️
Painful. If they were married, relationships or not, your the outside or custard 🤷🏿♀️
No she's not. If he was seeing both women and not married to either then it doesn't apply.
@@AK.126a child being created outside of a union,marriage between husband and wife is the outside child. Just because a man and a woman are habitation together they are not married that is not a union that is shaking up... 💯
How you sound he was in a relationship with both women
Their dad was dating both and January's mom stayed with him. Now that's not outside.
She is the outside child but it’s not her fault. Our parents create these horrible lives for us 😢
If your dad was with someone first then has another k8d outside of that you're outside if he's still dealing with the same first woman.
No. The outside child refers to a child born outside of a marriage. The BM/BD life does not apply. If there's no actual marriage then there's no outside child.
@AK.126 disagree. There goes them loopholes. If a woman has a committed relationship dude cheats on her has a baby it's outside. It's 2024 not 1800s.
@@AK.126you know the people in the background never been married and were not created within a union themselves. Without orders
He had two girlfriends at the same time
@believer1715 depends who he dated first or which one was serious.
So no one was married? If one of the couples were married, then she would be the outside child. If no one was married, then that term wouldn't apply.
I feel this statement (Outside Child) to the bone. Since learning of my birth father and how he had two children, then one on the side; and adopting 3 more, has made me feel like the outside child. Yet I'm his 2nd child that he had with my iresponsibile birth mother.
I have been called an outside child. It hurts and I struggle with feeling like I belong. I’m in a tangled web bc my dad has multiple “ outside children”
My dad and mom were wrong but he was always in my life..
My father never married my Mom. He was married to someone else from Day 1. He had ‘e and my brother with Mom. First wife had 1 child with him. He also had a child 12 years before that we knew nothing about for so long. These men can do irreparable damage.
She is the "outside child" but no child wants to be called that.
baby you the outside child😂
An outside child? Dad wasn’t married and was just sowing his seeds around. She wasn’t an outside child!
Men, like their father, need to realize that their actions effect everybody deeply.
The child born outside a marriage is an outside child and half siblings. Ya didn’t come out the same ….. 💁🏻♀️
Ignorant as hell!
I think you could say the dad was outside😂
Agree....the father had extra outside activities
There’s another clip for those saying unmarried.
The outside child speaks to the wife, so the father was married.
The outside child appears to be in denial.
He wasn't married when he created these children.
Just because they were married when she met with the "wife" doesn't mean she was the wife at the time of conception.
@@kikibigbangfan3540
Provide the date and time of conception or be quiet!
Don't call her an outside child! Call them both outside children, or don't call either of them outside child. One is not better than the other.
All yall are commenting on is if he was married or not not these men having multiple ppl pregnant and how kids are affected..😢 like wtf 😭🤦♀️🤦♀️
The reference "outside child" means he had a child outside their holy matrimony. She is indeed outside of a marriage vowed to God. Stop belittling the fact that he went OUTSIDE of his marriage and had a baby.
Seeing as how he wasn't married to either of their mothers at the time... He had two girlfriends and got them both pregnant.
U still wrong
What defines an outside child?💔😢
NO CHILD IS AN OUTSIDE CHILD.
The mother was petty for calling her an outside child if she wasn’t married to the father just lived with him she’s a baby mama herself 😂
There's a special kind of hell for men who create dynamics like this that cause this type of hurt and insecurities for children because they're selfish!
I don't think that is fair to refer to her as the outside child. She was just a human being, a child born into a situation. She had no control over that. Don't penalize or stigmatize her for the sins of her father (mothers too)
If Joy was not married to that man, then she is correct; she was not the outside child.
Based on the little sister's accounting, it infers that the big sister's mama was never married to they trifling daddy...an "outside child" term is only legit if he was married to the first woman, but seems as if he was just a two-timing f-boi.
Exactly
I’m not a outside child. I’m my father’s first born child. I’m older than my father’s marriage. He married a woman other than my mom.
Was Nicole’s mother and their dad married? If not, she’s not an “outside” child!
No they wasn't just boyfriend and girlfriend....
This is how they put rejection on one person in the family and unfortunately that roll is played out years later in adulthood.
She didn't like the term "outside!" Child. If they were married you were born outside wedlock.
They both were born out of wedlock
An Outside child is a child being born "outside a marriage". If he was just sleeping around. He just had kids and created chaos unfortunately. The father is to blame not the women or kids.
I raised the children from my partners infidelity!!! We have not become a family yet. Don't ever do it. Walk away raise your own.🎉
“Another child” “outside child” He said he wasn’t married. There were two women pregnant at the same time. He married one and disregarded the other child, sad.
Any child born outside the marriage of the one who went outside, the child may be for real but is considered the "outside" child!!!
Says who?
Stop putting labels on children.
It is traumatic them.
If the father was not married to either woman at conception, then neither are outside children. As the younger sister stated they are sisters fathered by the same man outside of marriage....😢
This is always painful to watch your dad be a live-in parent to other kids and not you.
She is an outside child. Whether they were married or not. They were in a relationship and made a home together. Outside woman = outside child.