Weatherby M307 - Accuracy Test
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Ron showed the best tip for shooting sub-MOA all day. Ignore the shots you don't like.
😂😂🤣
Testify 🎉
My Weatherby 307 in 7PRC was doing the same thing, then I recounted the scope and discovered the pic rail screws were loose, torqued them down and shot .80 groups.
I have 5 Weatherbys, 2 307s, a Meat Eater Vanguard, and 2 Mark Vs...all shoot lights out..my 300Wthbry mag 307 shot 4 3" groups at 1k yrds in TN...I am handholding but they have never let me down from Africa, New Zealand, Argentine, to here at home...they are my go to rifle.
Of course no one believes you…I had an old Polish doctor friend who passed many years ago that had a long closet full of Weatherby’s….guided rich Limeys in Kenya and had many many pictures to back this up. Hecslesys told me Weatherby’s were okay accuracy wise.but not outstanding.
So..yeah…no.
@@BusterBibbso you’re inclined to only believe a doctor from many years ago and not from your own or others experience? There’s many videos of the weatherbys shooting good groups.
@@BusterBibbdon’t speak for everyone. You’re arrogant and ignorant
@@BusterBibbof course no one believes you.
@@BusterBibb Pretty stupid comment for sure.
Love seeing Wyoming glass on this Wyoming gun, fun little detail!
That wood is gorgeous
It’s certainly a looker.
That’s what SHE said!😊
Yes it is.
That Garmin is a game changer. I have that, wind meter and slope doper in an old soft camera case I had laying around. Don’t even need to take the tripod off.
Well done on your new Garmin, just returned from the range , Howa 1500 30-06 100 yards out of the box 1 inch group using 150 gr Sellior & Bellot spce ...very happy 😁 thanks for great videos
Love the stock! Just bought that Garmin last week. Sure beats the old chrono. I was taught to keep the front rest under the barrel lug.
I’m a huge fan of Weatherby but I’ve sold two (Vanguard and Mark V) because they wouldn’t group. The barrel profiles are too darn skinny. It’s a very much one and done type deal. I’m sure if I went to hand loading they would, but after switching to a Benelli Lupo I am getting 0.75” groups with diff 150gr factory ammos all the time.
Doesn't matter what anyone want's to think Weatherby is a reputable company and is well known for accurate rifles. That said, things can happen between leaving the factory and arriving on someones shooting bench. Even experienced shooters can make mistakes or overlook a simple issue. I had a local gun shop years ago mount and bore sight a scope for me on a rifle I knew to be a 1" group or less all day. But, of course, I couldn't leave well enough alone and had to try a new scope. Rifle wouldn't consistently shoot inside 3" after I got the new scope. So I removed it and found the gun shop tech had accidentally gotten a piece of metal filing under the front end of the scope and so it would shift under recoil just enough to throw off the aim. Got that sorted out and the rifle went back to shooting 1" groups. No improvement in the group size but boy was the sight picture a lot brighter and more clear. SO there could be a wide variety of issues at play here. Weatherby didn't just make up those targets so if the gun won't do the same when you receive it then something has changed along the way or as part of the process. A lot of whiny children in the comments pretending that because the one gun they bought from a specific manufacturer didn't have an issue that there could never be an issue with anyone particular gun from that manufacturer is ignorance at it's best. Funny how millions of people shoot sub MOA groups with Weatherby's, Remington's Tikka's, Savage's, Mossbergs, Winchesters and even lever action Marlins and Henry's yet the minority who can't always pop up in the comments to blame the manufacturer for making garbage because they don't know how to shoot.
There you go, truth spoken
I blame people that won’t secure their optics to their rifles to assure virtually stress scope mounting.
I’ve seen arrogant Gunwerks owners that were simply horrible shooters. That being said..those claiming to shout 3” groups at 1,000 yards using Weatherby’s Vanguard..well…I needed a hood laugh .
FYI…I’m not skert to put up my shooting accuracy with my upgraded Savages. But let’s face the facts..there’s not many that can accurately shoot at an animal either standing or sitting or squatting and not great even being prone. THAT!! takes lots or practice before a window of opportunity presents itself to shoot at an animal.
Bench testing is SOP..but real hunting situations are completely different besides/before throwing in adrenaline rushes.
So..what say ye..eh?
@@BusterBibb Yep, real world hunting situations are rarely similar to bench conditions except for those who hunt exclusively from stands with a rifle rest. And if you need a second shot so many variables change between the first and second shot that unless your rifle won't put two shots on the end of a five gallon bucket then the shooter is going to be the biggest factor affecting accuracy. But everyone loves to blame the rifle when they miss. I have hunted with a couple of guys who were just very rough on their rifles and scopes and missed a lot of deer because of it. They would always blame the rifle which was certainly true, their rifles were horribly inaccurate, but it was their fault and they could not understand that. Heck, in another example of shooter error my brother in law had been in need of glasses for a long time and went two seasons without getting a deer despite several good opportunities. I asked him if he thought it was his vision. Nah, I can see alright, he'd say. Finally a fella he had hunted with since he was a kid flat out told him not to come out on his property anymore until he got his eyes checked because he was worried about him being so far off he endangered other hunters. Got his glasses and has been near perfect since then. Now he loves to tell people about how important it is to get your eyes checked. Ya think? Good guy but stubborn as a mule sometimes.
As for Vanguards being used at 1000 yards I would doubt that. At least not consistently. Vanguards are hunting rifles not target machines. And anyone who shoots 1000 yards competitively is not using an off the shelf hunting rifle of any kind.
My 7mm-08 blr shot like that when got it. Cleaned ALL the copper out and did a proper break in and now she is grouping 1/2"@ 100 with the cheap remmington green and white. The black match is slightly better. I dont have much time on the gun and only three different types of ammo but it looks good. Tje gun was bougjt, sighted in, and used on one elk hunt in 1981. 5 years ago it was gifted to me. Still got the old redfield "tv" scope!
Except, even from the factory it shot poor. But then at the factory good? So only when it’s clean? Well ron said he cleaned it. I dont know. Even if so. When a gun is that picky. Its no go for most ppl.
Good God Ron, what a beautiful stock!!!
People, don't be fooled. Through random distribution one group out of all of those groups during multiple days of shooting looked decent. Even though that group is at least 1.5 MOA. That gun is garbage, get rid of it, move on. I'm not blaming Ron for showing us this product because he is in the industry and that's his job. He was honest and showed us exactly what this gun was capable of. Great vid!
Could it be the shooter?
Agreed.
No it’s the guns weatherby suck ruger American- any cva -savage axis will shoot circles around these over priced boat paddles
Sure happy I bought a tikka , nail driver hoorah
With their long throats, Weatherbies are great for long-seated hand loads, but are vulnerable to cartridges with shorter ogives, I’d buy your “garbage” for $500.
that's a beautiful rifle
Several years ago i tried multiple Weatherby Mark V Ultralight rifles chambered in 30-06 because i love the way they shoulder/handle but after 4 attempts @$1400 a pop i never found one that would shoot sub-moa (even with my best efforts at the reloading bench) So I quit trying and moved on to other much more accurate rifle brands (Sako, Tikka, Browning)
You probably just weren't that good at shooting tight groups with such a lite rifle.
Either way, you'd be more deadly with a great handling little rifle in the woods that shoots the 1 1/2 moa guarantee than something clumsier that shoots tiny groups.
Number 1 thing always, is a consistent cold bore shot and a decent group after that, and you'll never miss inside 500yds because of the rifle.
No, I agree with jeffrey. Pencil barrels are cheap to make but not as good. Always. I have had 222’s in many different brands, including Tikka and 2 off-brands. The off-brands had heavy barrels, and shot far far better than all the others. So never buy Lite
I have a Weatherby .300WM that would not hit a barn if you were standing in it. Weatherby wanted $200.00 to look at it under their "MOA Warranty" Like you I have just moved on. Tikka, Sako, CZ, Sauer. Probably will never buy a US made firearm again.
@@fromthefarmvideos6411 My $300 Thompson Center Compass or Savage axis both vastly outshoot my 2 grand Weatherby's , I have an old Savage 99 , 250-3000 open sights and my 80 year old eyes that I can average better groups at a 100 yds with than I can with any of my Weatherby's, have managed to sell two of the Weatherby's one yet to get rid of
great video I have one in 270 and I plan on trying it tomorrow keep up the great content
update on the 270 I have. 1/2 inch groups at 100 yds with 150 gr. cor lokt same with 150 gr. sst with imr 4350 hand loads
Try loading a 165 grain with 54-57 grains of IMR4350, start low. For a 180gr, 55-56 grains of IMR4350. If it still won’t shoot get rid of it. If you stick with the Sig, make sure you get the same lot number.
The issue stems from the bullet ogive and seating length.
Nice, glad to see you got that one straightened out. Nice rifle indeed.
Way to stick with it and find some ammo that it likes! I have never been a Weatherby fan, but that rifle could change my mind.
Never had any issues with a Weatherby… Hope there is a part 2.
I appreciate the follow up video. You don't see that enough on other channels.
Hi Ron. You will like the Garmin Xero. I got one to diagnose issues with my air rifle.
I've used it for rifles, pistols, and my 410 shotgun. The Garmin Xero is awesome.
I've had a 307 in 6.5cm since last winter. It likes factory hornady 147 eldx. The patterns started at about 2 moa and tightened up after about 2 or 3 boxes. It will shoot sub moa even when hot(ish) as long as the guy with his finger on the trigger doesn't flinch.
Feeling really good about my 500 dillar axis 2 rn getting 1moa with cheap s&b
Ron, you should also get the ammo from the target data that came in the box and then shoot a box of each of those plus a box of the Sig ammo you shot in this video to confirm or deny the rifle’s capability.
Statistically, we can’t really say it’s “a shooter” based on the data so far. Also, a rifle that shoots only one factory load well … maybe okay but definitely not great. I’d want to verify the accuracy of several different loads with at least 20 shots from each (with groups overlaid into 20 shot groups, not 3- 4- or 5-shot groups averaged).
By all means one could, perhaps should, do this with his/her rifles, but this one's heading back to Wby. I've no real need to fine tune it to that degree. Video reviews like this are more informational than "confirmational," helping viewers to better understand rifles they may not have seen before. Anyone buying this model from Wby. might discover that their particular specimen shoots better or worse than this one with who knows which ammo/bullet.
Hi Ron, another great video as usual. Your videos are fun to watch. I'm glad I was wrong about the Maven scope. It would be interesting to see you try some hand loads using the same projectiles the factory used that shot the tight groups. Good luck and keep the great videos coming.
Ron you are a patient man…. These guys sure like roughin’ you up on some of the comments :)
I’ve learned one irrefutable fact: the absolute finest experts in the field of shooting also grace us not only with their presence, but their expert knowledge and experience through the comments section…
Such a good shot that second shot was insane
I'd have gone home after that one that's my whole day of luck spent lol
The Winchester copper ammo doesn’t shoot in my 6.5, 7 mag, or .30-06. Barnes TRSX or TSX or LRX BT are the monolithics to use!
Weatherby’s are known for their long throats; check the seating depth of the best cartridges with a comparator, and on any bullet, use that seating depth as the starting hand load. You’ll have more bullet choices with highest accuracy.
Yee haw, a video that doesn't take up half of my evening to make a point.
Check to see if the barrel is free floated. If not a right size socket and sand it open. Next hold the rifle strait up on a table and loosen the action screws there should be some up and down play bump the recoil pad on the table a few time and tighten the screws to 45 inch pounds and a little thread lock can help. I had a cheap bolt action that would not group. I cut ten patches of electrician black tape and put it on the back of the recoil lug and trimmed with a safety blade. It was a snug fit but the rifle started grouping real good. I left it like that did not want to bed the recoil lug and sold the rifle had a bad trigger pull and was boxed in and could not be adjusted so I sold it. It is true 50-100 rounds and copper up the barrel real good to smooth out the imperfections in the barrel. I don't strip out the copper until groups start opening up then clean and it will shoot poor until you put up 20 rounds through it. I don't like walnut stock even with the barrel free floated it will never hold a zero. All my bolt actions are in synthetic stocks with aluminum bedding. I have an 700 with H&S stock go shoot it two years after the last time and prints with a perfect zero. Sounds like a bedding issue. You should not lock your thumb around the the stock but rest it on the side to get a perfect trigger pull. My Ruger ranch rifle had a heavy trigger pull and the narrow forward stock made it hard to hold steady I added a trigger adjusted it down to two pounds and shot a lot better groups. The trouble with barrels they do not stress relieve barrels properly. I don't think your rifle was threaded sometimes an heavy muzzle break will improve the harmonics and shoot better. I like buying American so I shoot 700 but an Tikka you should not have problems. Some custom rifles that cost up to five thousand shoot 3/4 inch groups. I do reload and those low drag bullets to me are not as accurate and you have problems with twist rates with them. I am an 308 fan my 700 varmint 1-12 twist shoots 110 -168 great the 1-10 twist rifles I have 110 not so well. Looks like I wrote a book sorry about that.
It’s a borrowed rifle he can’t modify it
Another Great Video💯 Thanks for Sharing 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
I had a similar frustrating experience, like your 30 06 experience. During load development, shooting small groups with odd fliers. It was very frustrating but once I shot over a dozen rounds at a single target it shot close to a two inch circle. What it turned out to be was a loose element in the scope.
I know you had new scopes, but there could be a problem in the design or building of the scopes, that under recoil the elements of the lenses shift.
I would try some groups with a different scope.
Good Luck, love your program.
Garin H.
I personally have not had a rifle that didn’t like Barnes bullets.. They’ve shot great for me. My last Weatherby 30-06, a Vanguard Lazerguard, loved the 150 TTSX. It was a .25moa shooter with that bullet. Every other load I tried wouldn’t do any better than 1.5moa. Pickiest rifle I ever had lol
Hi Ron,
The ogive and seating depth of the different bullet makes are the issue with the long throat Weatherby. Check the winning bullet's ogive with a comparator and use that seating depth to start the hand loads. I’d trade a guided Oregon Roosevelt elk hunt by me this year for that rifle.
John, I'm not so sure the old "long throat" Wbys. apply to this rifle and/or chambering. No need for long throat to reduce pressures in a 30-06. But, yes, were I handloading for this, I'd tweak my seating depth for best accuracy. Not going to do this with a loaner already heading back. Cheers.
@@RonSpomerOutdoors-Podcast Dadgumit! I bet I’m still right, even with a conventional throat; but it’s not yours so I understand. It’s a shame to teach the greenhorns to give up on such a great rifle so easily and limit them to retail retail retail.
@@johnnash5118 Sometimes you need to know when to fold, I dumped a ton of money into my Mark V trying to get it to shoot without any luck
I’d bed and float it. It may open up a bit but would make a big difference for consistency. Always does in my experience. I would much rather have a rifle that will shoot 1.5 inch five shot groups all day hot or cold with any ammo than a half inch fussy rifle.
IMO, production processes have reached the point where fouling a barrel is no longer needed to achieve clean, cold barrel, first shot accuracy. I bet you would be hard pressed to find any plastic in the 307. And I'm sure there will be those who know more than Weatherby's barrel designers and will take it upon themselves to remove the pressure point. Great video.
i feel very grateful that my rifle will shoot good groups with 150grn fmj but it loves the heavier 180grn and the 220grn loads. it even shot rem accelerators the 40grn 22 sabot rounds in under an inch and those scream at 4110fps! for a lazer like mpbr! i dont know why it shoots so good its just a hunting rifle made on a rem1917 action. and i thank god that it was, as the attitude toward anything mllsurp having to be original or els it was worthless paid off big time! even tho the only part of the rifle that was millsurp was the action! i feel blessed to have found a great shooter for just under 200$
I have shot Weatherby's for 45 years. I was thinking your problem was probably the scope not being rigid enough or it's the ammo. Doing this accuracy testing without match ammo is just silly. I have never had one of these rifles with greater than 1" groups at 100 yards, even the 416. I prefer the old action but the new 307's are superb rifles.
Fun watching you learn the rifle.. enjoy. You did well, it's not your shooting.
I have watched other videos on weatherby rifles, mostly the vanguard line and it seems a lot can get a good three shot group and then the fourth shot is a flyer and the fifth one hits back closer to the first three . Maybe it’s just me but I have seen that a decent amount of times.
Vanguard rifles are Howa 1500s in a Weatherby stock
You’re absolutely correct…we use to buy S&W rifles in the early 80’s..Howa marketed by S&W with S&W name…and those S&W rifles were shouters too. And downright reasonable in price.
But aye God..stamp Weatherby innit and presto!! Cachiiiiinggg!!
3006 rocks. Glad you figured it out.
Haven't seen a group like that since the mossberg patriot tried it 😂😂😂😢
I was able to get my 307(synthetic stock) in -06 to shoot .4” groups with 168 TTSX hand loads (RL19 @3k fps) but with factory 1-1.5” was the avg. I tried different styles and brands.
It looks like the front sling swivel stud may be hitting the front bag in recoil. Try taking the sling swivel stud out and see if it helps.
That's what I was considering
Ron is flinching. Not saying that the gun is good or bad. But you flinched badly on the 2nd and 3rd shot
Yeah, not like you, huh? Thanks for your expert advice
That bolt looks a lot like my howa mini action... the way the numbers are engraved on bolt even look identical
Love it.
I wasn’t surprised on the Norma ammo, they made Weatherby ammo for a long time and they have been known for accurate ammo when shooting through Weatherby’s
Like these reviews in showing all the intricacies of the gun. Seems odd though the action couldn’t be taken off? I would have liked to of seen the action and pillar bedding. But good video.
Adam over at Who Tee Who has been turning in some amazing groups with All types of Remington ammo. He needed a new chronograph also. He should've gotten the Garmin like you did.
He isn't doing anything it's a sled.. and his groups are clearly measured very very small, immaculately small, clearly bs..
@@travisweldmaster7815 the point of bench rest shooting is to get zeroed and confirm accuracy of the ammo and your rifle while trying to eliminate as much human error as possible. I've seen his groups, they speak for themselves.
I have a 270 that always was a tac driver always shot vx 3 with no parallax adjustment. Changed scope to one with parallax adjustment and had horrible accuracy unless i got the parallax just perfect so i went back to vx3 no more trouble all i want to adjust for deer hunting is the power most new scopes have way too much bullsh*t you don’t need in my opinion
How long is that round sitting in the chamber getting hot between shots Ron?
That wood is purdy!
Very interesting video, Ron. But I shoot iron sights, and I need to know how to dial parallax out of that. Oh, that's it - close one eye!
You should do a video on disassembling ammunition and calling out how far off loads are.
Front sling swivel is hitting your front bag on the shot . Take it out for bench rest testing.
Beautiful Weatherby rifle. Amazing wood stock. Is the barrel threaded?
I would try a different scope and mounts, maybe off a rifle that you have accomplished the group you are trying to achieve with this one.
He said before they switched scopes in the previous testing to make sure it wasn’t the scopes
I honestly don't think you can discount that high shot that was out of the group. There's something very wrong with that rifle.
Pillars and glass bed it. Unless weatherby already did. If so, contact weatherby. Try sierra match king.
A lead sled will take alot of error out and reveal what the rifle is capable of with the right ammo. Plus I have never had luck shooting decent groups with a center fire using just one hand on the rifle.
When the barrel gets hot. The metal bends easier an you’ll get a bigger group. Every 4th shot was past THE temp at which acceptable deflection occurs during barrel whip.
Gun designers can calculate the amount of deflection of the barrel at rest and simulated firing sequences. We’d like to keep it 1 moa. Bull barrels, fluted barrels, and short barrels provide better rigidity to resist deflection/ your group opening up, not just by the shooting heat but external factors.
I cant tell you which is perfect but I can tell you what helps. We cant just build as thick short and fluted as we want bc of the obvious drawbacks to velocity, weight, and $ and time. We also have to consider carbon wrapped barrels have a ss liner and epoxy and carbon fiber layers. The different materials all behave differently under stress/strain and deflect differently and transfer heat at different rates. This is a mess and real world simulations are better. Carbon fiber likes tension/pulling but not compressing/squeezing. Opposite of concrete.
The new ruger american gen 2 has a decent length barrel, good steel, stiff supports, but free floated, fluted to dissipate heat and reduce weight, WHILE still being thin and lightweight.
Seems like a lot of design went into that choice because it also produces great accuracy across the board.
Ron I’d love to see you revisit the 30-30 with Berger’s 190gr offering
Hey Ron, How about a 44 Rem Magnum rifle week?
Bad thing about weatherby rifles they heat up way to fast I have one in 30-06 same thing barrel gets hot way to fast but not to the extent of throwing rounds the way that one is
I personally think you need quite a few more 5-10 shot groups with that ammo to show that it is truly ammo related.
Perhaps, Jim, but the rifle shipped with factory targets showing three sub-MOA groups with Barnes bullets and one Norma load and I got poor results with two Federal loads and on Hornady load before striking it tight with the Sig loads. I'd definitely want more sub MOA groups with it, though, before pronouncing it a "for sure" sub MOA rifle.
Well good finally got this one up. Was looking fwd to this one n anymore 06s.
Curious on a few things.
Did you clean barrel between the Copper Impact n the Sig Ammo?
I have tried it in 3 06 1 m70 hated it,1 liked it nothing to brag about but not bad,another Handi Rifle Frist 3 were ok as well but after that n some adjusting similar to you there.
I have cleaned it n the 70 that liked before. And will see. Am thinking they may foul the bore fast like the orginal X bullets did some rifles.
Norma Tip Ya by chance try it in the 307 ??
Be nice to see that one get some rounds through it n what you come up with.However if cant Mr Weatherby can sends to me n I will happy to further tests it.😂
God Bless Ya..
You have to let us goimg fwd hiw you like that Garmin..😉
Did not claen bl. between the Copper Impacts and Sig ammo. Had cleaned it before the Copper Impacts.
@@RonSpomerOutdoors-Podcast Thanks Sir
I have never had luck with Winchester ammo.
Looks like good potential. Brsutiful wood on that gun. Doubt i could afford it. But who needs an -06 repeater anyway? (Ruger #1). Ow wait, i do have a repeater - US M1917 Enfield, 3 digit serial #😁
Did this gun eject the empty case well? I thought I noticed several cases drop back into the rifle.
Ron, have you tested the 307 since this video?
My 300 Weatherby mag Mark V only like Weatherby 220 grain ammo.
Can you try the ruger hawkeye hunter in 30-06 or 308
Thats an impeccable chin weld
Would love a follow up video to see success and with what loads. This makes me uneasy
I like the tool less procedure to disassemble the bolt but I may be long to like the idea that bolt handle is second piece
I have a .270 Weatherby Mag Accurmark Mark 5, and it’s sub-MOA all day long; however, I only have used Weatherby Ammo. At 300 yards I can hit a golf ball in a group with it. It should be noted that the weatherby mags really burn the barrel more than more calibers. My barrel is designed to dispate heat faster, being fluted.
I know its more relevant to a few videos back but when it comes to practicing to avoid a flinch, how can I tell if my gun is safe to dry fire without damaging anything?
Virtually every centerfire bolt action of at least the past 50 years or so is safe to dry fire. The striker/firing pin is stopped within the bolt by an enlarged diameter on the shaft. The firing pin itself strikes nothing but air. Nevertheless, consult a competent gunsmith and or manufacturer. I think most manufacturers will say "use snap caps" just to cover their butts.
So the rifle shot only 1 factory load of like 6 or 7 tested into like a .8” group not counting the flier 2” above the other 4. What happens when you cannot find that only factory ammo the rifle shoots barely decent? Or Sig changes something with the loading. I have seen far too many Weatherbys at the local range that shoot terribly.
Four tested. Best group .664". If I owned this rifle I would, of course, do much more testing and load development. Might even free float the barrel. But it's sure showing potential and it meets the company guarantee.
Ron…. 3 loads in the previous testing video and 2 in this one makes 5. Not a single one came even close to MOA. Even the Sig load has a flier that opened the group up to probably 1.5”. Did you feel that shot break high or did the rifle just send it up there? Weatherby is just relying on their name at this point.
@@edburash7656 Yes, except the first 3 shots with the Sig ammo landed .664". Weatherby guarantees this rifle will shoot a sub MOA 3-shot group. The fourth shot went high, the fifth was right back in the 3-shot group. As many have pointed out, none of this shooting proves that this rifle is a consistent sub MOA shooter, but it has proven that the potential is there. It also illustrates how manufacuter's 3-shot MOA guarantees are essentially worthless. Even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then. But the three sub MOA 3-shot groups Wby. shipped with this rifle further suggest that it is capable of such performance when a good shooter (that may be my issue) and ammo handle it. With its new facility in Wyoming, its new M307 action, and its extensive range of new rifle models with a wide variety of shapes and materials, I don't see Weatherby as resting on its 20th century laurels. It seems to be surging ahead with innovation and all-American made products. I wish them well.
I'd definitely try to get that scope down closer to the barrel, it makes alot of difference
It makes no difference whether or not the rifle groups.
Conclusions cant be made yet, 2 to 3 more trips to the range needed.
Wonder if Weatherby wanted that shot again? Did they pressure Ron, or sent a totally different rifle. We will never know
Sure you'll know, Truth, because I'll tell you. Weatherby has still never contacted me about that rifle. They are just patiently waiting for me to send it back once I'm finished. I re-tested it because I thought doing so would be educational for me and my viewers. And also because I wanted to see if this rifle really shot as poorly as it had during 30-06 Week.
Didn't the factory also use HEAVIER bullets than the 150's you're testing? Same to Same, Ron....
You may get better accuracy with a different bench setup or bipod and rear bag.
Try a 22-250its very accurate
Everyone always wan't to discount the "Flyer" 😂
Not everyone: Just the guys that can't shoot..
To many “flyer” just means “I don’t know what I did wrong but it was probably me.”
I can't get copper impact to shoot at all
It was pretty enough
Ron you should do something with the real gunsmith !good content
Congratulations on getting a Garmin!
My new vanguard 06 with Barnes TTSX 168, .421. My 22-250 vanguard with Barnes 50 gr. ,
0.183. First groups out of both. Very expensive guns , $499. 👏👏😀
FWIW it look like your on your 4th shot you had the front rest a far bit further back.
You have to give the Weatherby back? That's so sad. That's the one from 30-06 week I'd have kept.
Never ever had an issue with weatherby. Something has to be not bolted down
I just don't like the way ron holds his rifle on his very first shot you can see the rifle twist up and right so when he lets off pressure on top of the stock it flew up and to the left
3 rounds proves the rifle 5 proves the shooters
The new Weatherby 507 shotgun. Enter Weatherby fan boys. 😂
What is needed is discovery of the source of inconsistency. Seems here ammunition was suspect.
Ron there is too much pressure up in the forearm area on that rifle. Some say that’s why they don’t like a wood stock but if the pressure is properly relieved the rifle should shoot better and maybe not?? One other thought is did you check the torque on the screws? If it’s not aluminum pillar then about 40-45 inch lbs. is where it should be.
Ron, this was really interesting. Boy, those deferent cartridges make a huge deference. I almost lost my confidence in Weatherby's. Lol. Never.