1. As someone who has a 27 QHD -- get the touch, so many apps are taking their queues from mobile and doing touch gestures (two finger undo for example). 2. Get an ergotron arm or amazon basics equivalent. Makes it super flexible, you can rotate the monitor, move it back and forth, up and down (sit stand is doable), and it's much cheaper than the wacom ergostand. They stopped including it because people were annoyed at having to pay the included price when may prefer the arms.
Peter XYZ that is a great suggestion! I would love to try a HUION however due to the fact I have 0 monie$ for the time being I will have to stick to my 📝 and my 👉📱. Make the most of what you have and be glad you have it I guess! I have been periodically checking their site and reviews they are apparently very good.
Oliver Bunting I can not part with MY KIDNEY for $1500. That said I have a friend who is a very heavy sleeper. Throw in a half pack of Rolaids and meet me on the silkroad... by the big cookie on the left! Bring the cash and come alone.
same i have a cintiq13hd, but kinda want a bigger screen, i dont buy the 22 because of the full hd and feel like with that size it would be just better if it had 2k or something
Same here, but I'm not sure if it was a good decision anymore. Palm rejection on the iPad Pro is not very good, and the pen is not as good either. So if you're taking notes or drawing cartoons, it's okay. But if you want better pressure control without having to switch colors all the time, then it's probably not good enough. The biggest upside is how portable it is. I'm now wondering if I should get a cintiq pro 16.
Awesome review. It's so great to hear from someone who's actually a frequent user of the devices, because a regular techie won't pick up these subtle differences, that makes the whole difference. So what you mention about the touch features, totally flipped my priorities for picking one up. Keep up the good work, and I hope you make enough dough doing this.
I used your affiliate link and purchased this pen display! Thank you so much for the recommendation! I love it! I was using an XP-Pen Artist 15.6 Pro, but I wanted a pen that actually works with me and not against me! I Also wanted glass from edge to edge! 4k is a plus! Thank you again! Love your reviews!
Kim several iPad Pro were used on the making of The Incredibles 2 (you can see them on the behind the scenes). So I don’t think you can get more “pro” than fucking Pixar.
@@kim15982 I use it all the time. And when Photoshop hits the iPad Pro next year... well hopefully I will use it even more. So good to take an iPad Pro wherever you want to go and do your work.
Sure you want the best you have to pay for it, but is it really value for money? This is just a drawing monitor, you would also need a really good computer or laptop to run the resolution. This is definitely a device catered towards high end professionals and studios. A bit of a pity as most of the market consists of artists in between who would rather see that money go towards their tuition or more reasonably priced art tools.
@@Dylbot2099 Exactly! it's price puts it in the realm where unless one is creating professional grade illustrations and work it doesn't justify it's cost. If your using it create greeting cards it's face palm territory and with alternatives on the rise, you start to question is this really worth it?
Hi I bought the cintiq pro (24). There was a problem with the display. Shipped with warranty but after returning the device. Its problems had already worsened. In general, there is no good warranty, and be sure to review this purchase.
I can't believe you don't have a million subscribers yet. Always top-notch content! I always draw on paper but recently bought my very own first Cintiq Pro 16. I might try some of your techniques here. Very talented and fascinating work!
TYSM FOR THIS, I WAS WONDERING WHY THERE WERE SO MANY DIFFERENT PRICES FOR THIS UNTIL YOU EXPLAINED THE TOUCH FUNCTIONS AND NON TOUCH FUNCTIONS’ PRICE DIFFERENCES
Since you were drawing a parody of RDII, fun fact: The actual font used is called "Chinese Rocks", and from what I can gather it's a free font (and not one of those "fonts uploaded to a free fonts site where it's basically piracy" but a legitimately free font.)
the great thing about 4k is you can see line work, for say a comic page, at close to print resolution right there in front of you. all the detail and line weight right there on the screen as it'll look on paper. if you mainly do full colour/painty stuff then the cheaper HD tablet screens are still a solid choice.
Great review for something I'll never buy. I still don't think that the higher build quality and higher resolution are worth 3-4 times more money. The added bulk on the back for something most people never use looks annoying and for this kind of money you'd expect some kind of a stand. Still watching your videos is fun, even if you know beforehand you're never going to buy the reviewed item. I think Wacom suffers from the same disease that Apple and Microsoft are having .... offering interesting products that suffer from overpricing. I'll go back to my inferior Huion now that seems to work just fine and thankfully isn't build like rubbish.
They have a large market with large budgets who are prepared to buy the best, and often in bulk. I'm a little surprised that products such as these are even within the financial reach of the average individual.
@ロボット鳥山 sure, but they're still not worth the price asked for. If Wacom slashes their prices by half, they still make a good profit. Apple.... let's not even go there, ridiculous prices for inferior technology. My 5 year old Dell workstation of excellent build quality is still faster then any modern macbook.
Did they discontinue the 27QHD to push this more in the forefront (yes I know the 24 Pro is 4k, but they are/were at the same price point-ish)? Kinda hope that Huion & XP Pen make their displays 1440p going forward. Oh hey Brad, should I start out with something like the XP Pen 22e Pro then think of investing in a Cintiq down the road (Graphic Designer as a day job, former Illustrator)?
I'm a graphic designer, for the past four years. I have a wacom intros small an it does the same job for a whole lot less. Start with this, there is a little bit of a learning curve, but when you mind adjusts to it, it will come natural to use. Then upgrade in the future
If you won't do much about drawing, I think intuos is enough for a graphic designer. But if you really need a drawing display tablet, Wacom is the best (for now).
Yes a XP-Pen 22 or Huion 22 is fine to start out with and even to stay with. For me 4k isn't a priority and I don't need touch, so my Huion is sufficient for me as an artist and illustrator. I love drawing on a screen and Wacom's are great, but the newer Huion's and XP-Pen are so surprisingly good that it cured me from needing to have a Wacom. For me, down the road there's no need for a Wacom anymore, it will only be replaced by a new alternative one, once those companies offer newer features. XP-Pen even offers an alternative for the Wacom Remote Control at one third of the price, the AC19. Mine is due to arrive later this week, I'm sure it will be a great addition to my Huion that doesn't have express keys.
i use a dual screen setup a huion 22" gt mk1 model to draw on and a 48" hdr 4k tv as a checking monitor,,, or my old 2nd hand surface pro 3 and screen mirroring on the same tv ,,, all (huion tv and sp3 ) for less than a third of the cost of a wacom screen ( the only things i would upgrade are my pc it's getting old and the surface pro as the battery is shot and needs to be connected to a power outlet that and it's a base i3 model so could use a bit more cpu and ram to speed things up ) best advice try a few different things and see what works for you,, i find my setup works well for me and im not limited in any way ,, would i like to upgrade to a wacom ? sure , do i need to ? hell no , hope this helps
I have this and am loving it. I tried out my intuos 4 grip pen, Intuos 5 pro 1 pen and both of them actually work on it including the pro pen 2.... so this cintiq 24 works with the older intuos pens (intuos 4/5 and pro 2)
This video reminded me of the time I had wasted additional 50$ for nothing - and that is buying Intuos 5 TOUCH, that feature, at that time (2012), was a gimmick and more of an annoyance. It's the first thing I turn off after installing drivers on a new device. And just adding to the "is WACOM worth the price" discussion - well, it's 6 years and the tablet is running like a tank, except for the usb port, that has become loose after the years of plugging in/out, as I used to carry it around a lot, but now less so. And the thing is - I don't feel that I would need another drawing tablet, maybe pen display, but not a tablet (well,as long as it is alive, that is :D ). PS. About this CIntiq, or not about the display itself, but that remote...first time I saw it I thought it was UGLY. And each time I see it again - I still think it is ugly. I mean - don't other people find that it has a design does not blend well with the device it is being used with? I'm not talking about functionality, which obviously is great, but just the visual aesthetics of it?
I do in fact draw all day, but can’t in fact afford anything like this. I also can’t work at home. I seem to be most productive at cafes, so until they make a portable version to compete with an iPad, gotta stick with the iPad. Be interested to know if there are any reliable screen protectors out there that change the texture of iPad glass.
@Brad Colbow, what's the multiple-monitor workflow on this? When using Photoshop, I like to keep my pallets on another monitor, leaving the main monitor for just the artwork. If my pallets are on another monitor, I would have to set the pen down and use my mouse to select a layer or pick a color or whatever, and then grab my pen again to draw on the screen. I currently use an Intuos Pro Medium and have it set to span across all three monitors. So, I never really have to put the pen down. Now, I'm wondering if I should leave the Intuos Pro plugged in AND the Cintiq Pro (which arrives tomorrow). This way, I could draw on the Cintig and if I need to move the cursor to the monitor on the left or right, I could simply move the pen from the Cintiq down to the Intuos and never have to touch a mouse. Better yet, maybe I should have just bought 3 Cintiqs. LOL Would that even work?
The only thing keeping memfrom getting a screen tablet is the slouching position, i rather be looking up at my monitor than down at the tablet, after many hours that I spend working, it can get painful
Great review! I just got mine, touch version after 5 years on a tablet. It’s a dream to draw on but a few issues. The fans turn on a lot more than this review says. It sounds like a laptop fan when you’re working it hard. It’s not bad, especially when you have music going, but it’s there. Also the touch feature as you say feels like a bit of a loss. I could’ve done without it, for the same reasons as this review. Lastly, it REALLY does need a stand. I have the Wacom Vesa and Ergo arm coming but it’ll still be a few weeks. If you do long hours of art, hunching over on this will kill your back and neck. Otherwise, amazing product!
I don't know why wacom keeps insisting on touch screens/tablets, it has allways been garbage on their tablets, I've had a bamboo fun and since 2014 an intuos pro and I've never ever used or needed the touch feature on them, expresskeys are all that you need. At this point I think they add touch just to justify higher prices, I mean I recall there was a time where both their touch and non touch tablets were roughly the same price not $500 appart.
@@BombaJeadI think that's a good point. If touch doesn't work perfectly every time it just becomes an annoyance and is not worth having. It really has to be implemented as well as the ipad pro / phones or don't bother (especially for the extra cost) but then I have to say good on Wacom for offering most models without touch..... I also think many cintiq users would really benefit from a gamepad (Razer orbweaver etc.) over the express key remote as it's much smaller than a keyboard but allows a lot more keyboard shortcuts without having to remove your gaze from the work or look where your hand is going.
Cashmere sky: 1 year on I'm thinking about one of these but concerned about the fan noise - How have you found them? did you get used to them or find a work around? - thanks
@@tested211 They released a firmware update about 8-10 months ago that allows you to run the fans in a low power mode. They still run, but are MUCH quieter and more tolerable. If you have music going, you won't hear it, otherwise it's much easier to get used to.
I have the same feeling with the touch screen. I mean if I'm paying so much extra for a feature it shouldn't have cons that's gonna make me have it off sometime.
Great review! Maybe one day... but I prefer the iPad Pro for portability. It feels good and simple too. I had an older cintiq for a few years, and that worked great! But I can’t really stand being tied to a desk anymore
Awesome review, Brad. Because I'm so stingy about the price, it's hard to actually acknowledge that Wacom is the best there is (though not by a mile as they once were). A couple questions though, if you don't mind. You said that there are a few Wacom alternative that give you that "good" feeling, can you name drop them? And previously you said that the only cintiq that you've used were the old ones and then you started using SP3 and Wacom alternatives, now that you had proper time with Wacom's latest, have your opinions on Wacom alternatives change?
Can I have a question? As a reviewer who "buys" (not sure if you actually buy all those things or just borrow them for the review and then return) all these things, what do you do with them when the new version comes out? For example the iPad. When you have the 2017 version and you buy the 2018 I can't imagine you would keep using the old one anymore. What do you do with those old gadgets? .. because I love to draw and I'd love to own an iPad but from my salary I just can't afford the 1500 $ price tag. So I was wondering if there was a way to get a used one when people get rid of them after reviews for example..
go on ebay, i saw a lot of affordable offer for iPad. plus, u need to sprinkle in extra $100 for the apple pen, if u want it, then go on Amazon, they sell if for $94
Hey Brad, have you tried the firmware update that allows users to lower the fan speed? Does it help with the noise? I'm planning on also using the Cintiq as a monitor when not in use, so would definitely prefer something quiet and am looking for reviews of the firmware update before I throw money at it. Love your channel btw.
8,000 levels of pressure sounds impressive, but if you think about it, if you're working in 8-bit RBG, each color channel only has 256 possible values. 10-bit color gets you up to 1,024 values, so it seems to me that anything over that is probably unnecessary.
You missed a Pro about Cintiq: The screen's coat! It's magic! I don't know how Wacom do it, but your screen will never be scratched easily from pen's tip or metal dust. And the screen's coat will long last forever.
ARGHH!! THE TOUCH!! Why can't Wacom get the touch situation figured out? This has plagued their devices from the beginning. The false touches and mysterious palm lines on my 27qhd are frustrating because I want to use the touch features in my workflow, but can't. It is sad and depressing to see that the new models STILL have this problem. Great review Brad. Think I'll be hanging on to my 27. Parallax seems to be the only improvement and that's not enough to upgrade.
A lady and a guy from Australia were mentioning about pixel jittering(static noise) that could be easily seen on the tablet. The lady advised not buying it till the issue is resolved on the next gen. Whats your take on that?
Thanks for the nice review. I was using cintiq pro13 and ipad pro for drawing but just ordered Contiq pro24 non touch cuz I was having same issue that touch function intterupt easily and i don't really need at all.
I bought one of these before I saw this review. Can attest to it's awesomeness if you're able to invest in it. I spent all my holiday savings on it when my 11-year old cintiq 21UX died. It was worth every penny. The ergo arm is worth it too. When I'm not using it to draw on, it's a second monitor display and I can actually fit it on my already cluttered desk! The touch sensitivities have issues at times. I don't use that feature in anything but Photoshop as it seems to be way too sensitive and adds marks or elements in places I don't want (like a new bezier point in Illustrator or something). It's also frustrating that the pinch and zoom feature is not cross-program, as I would love to be able to set it up in Adobe Animate and TVPaint!
Great machine... So you are saying that This should hook straight up with a windows laptop using the USB-C to the USC-C connection on the laptop? I have this device (loan) but it came without cables. I have tried 3 different USBCs but it doesn't work... any ideas?
Thank you for the review! I will be trading my Cintiq Pro 16 with a non-touch version of Pro 24 this Wednesday. I was using Cintiq 21UX DTK-2100 but I noticed some serious lag. And I want to upload my process on RUclips someday so I need something with 16:9 ratio.
Touch used to work great, the palm rejection was perfect. All the driver problems started with that Windows ink update a while back and touch has never been the same since. They've fixed the major problems but I still get glitchy appearances of the popup keyboard on my cintiq companion. I think it misreads palm touches as gestures. It's really annoying they got rid of the vesa mounts as I have an ergotron for my old 21 ux that still works perfectly! I saw that they're partnering with ergotron to bring out a new arm to fit these screens, I bet they'll be wacom priced though!
I have the Wacom 13HD and mostly love it. The screen responsiveness and drawing feel are fantastic and the pen is great. I do want a larger drawing space though so I'm interested in upgrading. My main issue with the 13HD is it's not a very accurate screen. First off, the image looks grainy so it doesn't look clean compared to when I'm drawing on an iPad or Samsung Note 9. Second, the color reproduction sucks. I can be erasing areas and everything looks like it is gone, but when I look at the second larger monitor that I have duplicated, I can see light grey areas that don't show on the Wacom unit at all that I have to go back and finish erasing. I would assume the Cintiq Pro 24 would fix that issue since the color is very accurate. I also feel like the 13HD isn't very bright and that also makes it harder to work on. I do question the graininess though and whether it's on this improved product. Brad, have you noticed a grainy look on the screen in comparison to tablets and phones which don't have that at all?
Great review. I agree with almost everything you’ve said. There’s nothing better to draw on digitally. I’ve got the ergo stand too which is also great. However I’ve had a nightmare with Wacom and their after care service. My first device had a dead pixel. They eventually agreed to swap it for another model but that turned out to be a refurb and that had an even bigger cluster of dead pixels. I got my second replacement today which they said would be brand new but that had two dead pixels and a scratch on the screen so I reckon that’s a refurb too. So that’s 3 Cintiq Pro 24 models now that all have dead pixels. Any issues with your review model?
Great review. I've loved using mine. Sure, it's not cheap but the quality is exceptional and it feels INCREDIBLE to draw with. The fact that it's got a stunning 4K screen is just the icing on the cake.
HEY Brad, my name is Delyan Kostov (felow youtuber and artist) , i appreciate your chanel and diligence to present the reviews in educational and in the same time fun way. HERE IS SUGESTION FOR E Video! Among all the available workstation /convertible PC s wit stylus support (such as Microsoft book, Hp zbook, lenovo thinkpad, yoga...est) wich stylus and painting overall experience is the closest to Wacom stylus technology?
Brad your art skills are multiplying and increasing all the time. The perspective and anatomy of the opening picture of the characters you drew are incredible as always, and I LOVE the self portrait, stunning, looks just like you!☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️ the Cowboy Wanted Poster was a hilarious finishing touch to the picture ☺️☺️☺️
Curious how you would compare it to the Dell Canvas? I thought for sure Wacom would have nailed the touch experience by now and it is definitely a feature I've come to love on the Dell.
The screen definitely looks better than the canvas, less parallax/more pixels. I don't remember having a problem with touch on the Dell, but it's been a while, I might have to go back and watch my own review :D
@@thebradcolbow *spoiler* It was a good review worth the rewatch :) Glad to see you are enjoying the new Wacom. Can't wait to see reviews for the 32 too. Hopefully Wacom will reach out and send you one.
Im looking into buying this but I'm also looking to buy a laptop for both graphic designing and doing digital. I kept researching for a laptop that can use the Wacom tablet fotart and design but I only managed to find the surface pro 8 and or a apple1 but not cant use the tablet, was wondering what laptopci can buy that can do art and desogning that can host this
Did you try it on Clip Studio Paint? I find the touch interface works really well in that program, (on the Dell Canvas). Adobe and Touch don't always play well depending on your hardware.
Good review Brad. I had already planned to upgrade my current Cintiq to the new 24 touch version. I'm still deciding on whether to use my egrotron or invest in the new stands for these. Btw... when using a Cintiq like this, most people use a workstation or a laptop workstation (something that is powerful) as it's used on a desk environment. I point this out because, another thing commonly used is a 2nd Monitor, (or rather the Cintiq is used as the 2nd monitor). If you are investing in a Cintiq, you currently are or plan to do some professional work on it. Having another monitor is extremely helpful for a number of reasons but, a primary function is for color profiles (both print & web). You instantly have "free eyes" to view your colors. ... Slight;y off-topic: I'll be honest Brad, I'm surprised you don't invest in knowing and understanding color profiles, as it can only help you (including your web only artwork). For example: If you ever spent 5 seconds deciding on what color shade fits best in your artwork, then you should know that someone else's device could alter the look of your artwork's color. Understanding this, allows you to anticipate that a color you might like in front of "you," may not transition well to everyone else. Food for thought!
You should really try the touch features attaching it on a windows machine. On Mac touch is only a sort of emulation of keyboard strokes in Photoshop. (unless Adobe has finally decided to implemented the same touch gestures the Windows version has since CC2014)
@@thebradcolbow Hey Brad, someone commented about the smaller thickness of the glass on the ipad pro 2018 compared with the ipad pro 2017, meaning, in the 2018 ipad when you press with the apple pencil you see very easily a "pressure point" (small darkening) on the lcd following the tip even when you don't press too hard. Do you confirm that?
This looks awesome. Ive been looking at something to get my 11 year old daughter for christmas. She loves drawing, and I really encourage it. But I think I will start her with a surfave pro 6 for her first computer. As time goes on, and she gets better, and shows that she has more interest, I would get her something more expensive and better. The pen sensitivity turns me off on the surface pro, but her being 11 and a beginner. I feel that may be a good start. Plus she was only asking for a laptop so she can watch videos and go on the internet. I figured I'd find something that she was able to draw with since she loves drawing at home on paper all the time. I want to see what she could do on the computer and encourage her to get into graphic arts. She has been working on drawing an eye as realistic as she can, and drawing anime.
Just ordered the 24 and I was so worried because of some bad reviews but I went for it and I hope I made the right choice, so you still like it or have you found problems after a while?
Great review. How would you compare this to a 16" tablet? Do you feel that the extra screen real estate is that much of a difference or even necessary for professional drawing, painting, and concept art? I have a Cintiq Pro 16" and have been thinking about upgrading. Thank you.
Brad Colbow awesome, can't wait. I'm an comic artist and really interested in it and would love to know your opinion/recommendation on it from an artist standpoint
Hello, I purchased this model on Saturday, I have yet to test it though. I like the remote. the touch buttons on the top don't seem to be working is there something I should do? thanks for the review
so im torn between getting a cintiq 24 or ipad pro . I can't decide since ive been drawing on the ipad pro and never really had the chance to try the cintiq pro series line. Any advice?
I am new to art tablets and i am interested in the wacom brand but actually the 16 right now I am working off of a surface pro which is very small and usually do art on paper so I want to try my hand at a tablet. ., I seen others talking about making sure it works with the system. I am assuming it means the computer that I have?? How will I know if it does or not. ? thank you
Checking out all your videos tryi g to decide what kind of tablet I should go for. Haven't been able to paint/draw for about ten years because I have M.E, but my hands are working better again, and a friend suggested getting something digital to make it easier. So going to be saving up for a while (as I can't work) and hoping to find a secondhand bargain :) thank you for your work ♥
I'm sorry but halfway through, I was more interested in the drawing than the product
haha, cool. I'll have a full tutorial on how to make it later this week.
@@thebradcolbow This is the best drawing so far I've seen in all your videos.
Ya me too
Thank you for this review, and for a big western fan and rdr2 fan, YOUR IMAGE WAS AWESOME!!
I love your channel
1. As someone who has a 27 QHD -- get the touch, so many apps are taking their queues from mobile and doing touch gestures (two finger undo for example).
2. Get an ergotron arm or amazon basics equivalent. Makes it super flexible, you can rotate the monitor, move it back and forth, up and down (sit stand is doable), and it's much cheaper than the wacom ergostand. They stopped including it because people were annoyed at having to pay the included price when may prefer the arms.
Thanks for the review I would love to own one of these... anybody want to buy a kidney? Turns out I came with a spare!
I’ll give you $1500 for one
Jks 😂😂😂
Cure Boredumb try Huion brand. 👍🏼
Peter XYZ that is a great suggestion! I would love to try a HUION however due to the fact I have 0 monie$ for the time being I will have to stick to my 📝 and my 👉📱.
Make the most of what you have and be glad you have it I guess! I have been periodically checking their site and reviews they are apparently very good.
Oliver Bunting I can not part with MY KIDNEY for $1500. That said I have a friend who is a very heavy sleeper. Throw in a half pack of Rolaids and meet me on the silkroad... by the big cookie on the left! Bring the cash and come alone.
I just bought one.
I feel satisfied but also very, very dirty.
im going to get one hahaha i can already tell ill feel the same XD
same i have a cintiq13hd, but kinda want a bigger screen, i dont buy the 22 because of the full hd and feel like with that size it would be just better if it had 2k or something
What are you watching on that Cintiq? You must have gotten the "Touch yourself" option.
I just did the same, and my thoughts exactly!
Very excited though.
@@snazmon I cant wait tell I get mine but I am also feeling guilty for some reason! Haha
I’m really enjoying your reviews! You where actually the one who convinced me to get an iPad Pro!
I can add to this by saying that thanks to Brad I'm now eying an iPad Pro (which saying much as I'm not exactly an Apple fan :D)!
Same here, but I'm not sure if it was a good decision anymore. Palm rejection on the iPad Pro is not very good, and the pen is not as good either. So if you're taking notes or drawing cartoons, it's okay. But if you want better pressure control without having to switch colors all the time, then it's probably not good enough. The biggest upside is how portable it is. I'm now wondering if I should get a cintiq pro 16.
I told my friend this is my dream drawing tablet, and he was like
"duDE JusT gEt a LApTop wITh tOuCH ScREen iT'S CheAPeR"
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Awesome review. It's so great to hear from someone who's actually a frequent user of the devices, because a regular techie won't pick up these subtle differences, that makes the whole difference. So what you mention about the touch features, totally flipped my priorities for picking one up. Keep up the good work, and I hope you make enough dough doing this.
I'm going to go off topic of the video, but I LOVE that picture you are drawing in the background
Thanks, I'm posting a tutorial on it later this week :D
The accompanied drawing is SO GOOD. That twist at the end of the 8 minute mark is *chef's kiss* very good!
I used your affiliate link and purchased this pen display! Thank you so much for the recommendation! I love it! I was using an XP-Pen Artist 15.6 Pro, but I wanted a pen that actually works with me and not against me! I Also wanted glass from edge to edge! 4k is a plus! Thank you again! Love your reviews!
The apple pencil has been the best pencil I've ever used.
I wonder if the Cintiq prices will go down with the rise in popularity of the iPad (one can hope).
apple wants cintiq levels of money for the new pros so...no?
@@kim15982 your sooooo wrong about that.
Kim several iPad Pro were used on the making of The Incredibles 2 (you can see them on the behind the scenes). So I don’t think you can get more “pro” than fucking Pixar.
@@kim15982 I use it all the time. And when Photoshop hits the iPad Pro next year... well hopefully I will use it even more. So good to take an iPad Pro wherever you want to go and do your work.
@@kim15982 yeah, they do.
Sure you want the best you have to pay for it, but is it really value for money? This is just a drawing monitor, you would also need a really good computer or laptop to run the resolution. This is definitely a device catered towards high end professionals and studios. A bit of a pity as most of the market consists of artists in between who would rather see that money go towards their tuition or more reasonably priced art tools.
They are way overpriced but for me anyway, nothing else quite matches the drawing experience on them. IPad pro is pretty close though.
I hooked up my 12" MacBook to one, it runs ok. Affinity photo and tvpaint work fine on it.
@@sloppynyuszi Interesting though I feel that's like using a sword to cut butter.
@@Dylbot2099 Exactly! it's price puts it in the realm where unless one is creating professional grade illustrations and work it doesn't justify it's cost. If your using it create greeting cards it's face palm territory and with alternatives on the rise, you start to question is this really worth it?
@@sloppynyuszi I apologize. Did you mean the $1500 Macbook? With 1.4GHz dual-core 7th-generation Intel Core i7 processor, Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz?
I see someone has been playing Red Dead Redemption 2 lol
I might be a little obsessed at the moment :D
@@thebradcolbow can't blame ya, it's such a fun game
Brad Colbow it would be cool if you could upload your gameplays sometime, I know for sure that I would watch it!
@@thebradcolbow it is one of the best stories so far rockstar has made, made me depressed legitimately at the end.
Red Brad Redemption ehe
Hi I bought the cintiq pro (24). There was a problem with the display. Shipped with warranty but after returning the device. Its problems had already worsened. In general, there is no good warranty, and be sure to review this purchase.
Thanks for the detailed review.
Thanks! also, great channel.
Thanks bro! I'm trying to get in to digital. Been watching ur recent vids. Keep up the good work.
I can't believe you don't have a million subscribers yet. Always top-notch content! I always draw on paper but recently bought my very own first Cintiq Pro 16. I might try some of your techniques here. Very talented and fascinating work!
TYSM FOR THIS, I WAS WONDERING WHY THERE WERE SO MANY DIFFERENT PRICES FOR THIS UNTIL YOU EXPLAINED THE TOUCH FUNCTIONS AND NON TOUCH FUNCTIONS’ PRICE DIFFERENCES
Since you were drawing a parody of RDII, fun fact: The actual font used is called "Chinese Rocks", and from what I can gather it's a free font (and not one of those "fonts uploaded to a free fonts site where it's basically piracy" but a legitimately free font.)
the great thing about 4k is you can see line work, for say a comic page, at close to print resolution right there in front of you. all the detail and line weight right there on the screen as it'll look on paper. if you mainly do full colour/painty stuff then the cheaper HD tablet screens are still a solid choice.
Is it touchable?
Great review for something I'll never buy. I still don't think that the higher build quality and higher resolution are worth 3-4 times more money. The added bulk on the back for something most people never use looks annoying and for this kind of money you'd expect some kind of a stand. Still watching your videos is fun, even if you know beforehand you're never going to buy the reviewed item. I think Wacom suffers from the same disease that Apple and Microsoft are having .... offering interesting products that suffer from overpricing. I'll go back to my inferior Huion now that seems to work just fine and thankfully isn't build like rubbish.
Benjamin A I feel exactly the same!
Me too!
They have a large market with large budgets who are prepared to buy the best, and often in bulk. I'm a little surprised that products such as these are even within the financial reach of the average individual.
@ロボット鳥山 sure, but they're still not worth the price asked for. If Wacom slashes their prices by half, they still make a good profit. Apple.... let's not even go there, ridiculous prices for inferior technology. My 5 year old Dell workstation of excellent build quality is still faster then any modern macbook.
Agreed
Did they discontinue the 27QHD to push this more in the forefront (yes I know the 24 Pro is 4k, but they are/were at the same price point-ish)? Kinda hope that Huion & XP Pen make their displays 1440p going forward.
Oh hey Brad, should I start out with something like the XP Pen 22e Pro then think of investing in a Cintiq down the road (Graphic Designer as a day job, former Illustrator)?
I'm a graphic designer, for the past four years. I have a wacom intros small an it does the same job for a whole lot less. Start with this, there is a little bit of a learning curve, but when you mind adjusts to it, it will come natural to use. Then upgrade in the future
if you have money for wacom buy wacom if don't, search for alternative
If you won't do much about drawing, I think intuos is enough for a graphic designer.
But if you really need a drawing display tablet, Wacom is the best (for now).
Yes a XP-Pen 22 or Huion 22 is fine to start out with and even to stay with. For me 4k isn't a priority and I don't need touch, so my Huion is sufficient for me as an artist and illustrator. I love drawing on a screen and Wacom's are great, but the newer Huion's and XP-Pen are so surprisingly good that it cured me from needing to have a Wacom. For me, down the road there's no need for a Wacom anymore, it will only be replaced by a new alternative one, once those companies offer newer features. XP-Pen even offers an alternative for the Wacom Remote Control at one third of the price, the AC19. Mine is due to arrive later this week, I'm sure it will be a great addition to my Huion that doesn't have express keys.
i use a dual screen setup a huion 22" gt mk1 model to draw on and a 48" hdr 4k tv as a checking monitor,,, or my old 2nd hand surface pro 3 and screen mirroring on the same tv ,,, all (huion tv and sp3 ) for less than a third of the cost of a wacom screen ( the only things i would upgrade are my pc it's getting old and the surface pro as the battery is shot and needs to be connected to a power outlet that and it's a base i3 model so could use a bit more cpu and ram to speed things up )
best advice try a few different things and see what works for you,, i find my setup works well for me and im not limited in any way ,, would i like to upgrade to a wacom ? sure , do i need to ? hell no , hope this helps
I have this and am loving it. I tried out my intuos 4 grip pen, Intuos 5 pro 1 pen and both of them actually work on it including the pro pen 2.... so this cintiq 24 works with the older intuos pens (intuos 4/5 and pro 2)
Huion gt 191 v2 please
This video reminded me of the time I had wasted additional 50$ for nothing - and that is buying Intuos 5 TOUCH, that feature, at that time (2012), was a gimmick and more of an annoyance. It's the first thing I turn off after installing drivers on a new device.
And just adding to the "is WACOM worth the price" discussion - well, it's 6 years and the tablet is running like a tank, except for the usb port, that has become loose after the years of plugging in/out, as I used to carry it around a lot, but now less so. And the thing is - I don't feel that I would need another drawing tablet, maybe pen display, but not a tablet (well,as long as it is alive, that is :D ).
PS. About this CIntiq, or not about the display itself, but that remote...first time I saw it I thought it was UGLY. And each time I see it again - I still think it is ugly. I mean - don't other people find that it has a design does not blend well with the device it is being used with? I'm not talking about functionality, which obviously is great, but just the visual aesthetics of it?
I do in fact draw all day, but can’t in fact afford anything like this. I also can’t work at home. I seem to be most productive at cafes, so until they make a portable version to compete with an iPad, gotta stick with the iPad. Be interested to know if there are any reliable screen protectors out there that change the texture of iPad glass.
@Brad Colbow, what's the multiple-monitor workflow on this? When using Photoshop, I like to keep my pallets on another monitor, leaving the main monitor for just the artwork. If my pallets are on another monitor, I would have to set the pen down and use my mouse to select a layer or pick a color or whatever, and then grab my pen again to draw on the screen. I currently use an Intuos Pro Medium and have it set to span across all three monitors. So, I never really have to put the pen down. Now, I'm wondering if I should leave the Intuos Pro plugged in AND the Cintiq Pro (which arrives tomorrow). This way, I could draw on the Cintig and if I need to move the cursor to the monitor on the left or right, I could simply move the pen from the Cintiq down to the Intuos and never have to touch a mouse. Better yet, maybe I should have just bought 3 Cintiqs. LOL Would that even work?
I can't afford the wacom cintiq pro 24 But I am looking into the XP-Pen Artist 24 Pro drawing tablet with screen 24" seems like a good buy.
The only thing keeping memfrom getting a screen tablet is the slouching position, i rather be looking up at my monitor than down at the tablet, after many hours that I spend working, it can get painful
Great review! I just got mine, touch version after 5 years on a tablet. It’s a dream to draw on but a few issues. The fans turn on a lot more than this review says. It sounds like a laptop fan when you’re working it hard. It’s not bad, especially when you have music going, but it’s there. Also the touch feature as you say feels like a bit of a loss. I could’ve done without it, for the same reasons as this review. Lastly, it REALLY does need a stand. I have the Wacom Vesa and Ergo arm coming but it’ll still be a few weeks. If you do long hours of art, hunching over on this will kill your back and neck. Otherwise, amazing product!
I don't know why wacom keeps insisting on touch screens/tablets, it has allways been garbage on their tablets, I've had a bamboo fun and since 2014 an intuos pro and I've never ever used or needed the touch feature on them, expresskeys are all that you need. At this point I think they add touch just to justify higher prices, I mean I recall there was a time where both their touch and non touch tablets were roughly the same price not $500 appart.
How hot does the screen get? I used to work on a cintiq for long hours and my biggest gripe was how hot it got.
@@BombaJeadI think that's a good point. If touch doesn't work perfectly every time it just becomes an annoyance and is not worth having. It really has to be implemented as well as the ipad pro / phones or don't bother (especially for the extra cost) but then I have to say good on Wacom for offering most models without touch..... I also think many cintiq users would really benefit from a gamepad (Razer orbweaver etc.) over the express key remote as it's much smaller than a keyboard but allows a lot more keyboard shortcuts without having to remove your gaze from the work or look where your hand is going.
Cashmere sky: 1 year on I'm thinking about one of these but concerned about the fan noise - How have you found them? did you get used to them or find a work around? - thanks
@@tested211 They released a firmware update about 8-10 months ago that allows you to run the fans in a low power mode. They still run, but are MUCH quieter and more tolerable. If you have music going, you won't hear it, otherwise it's much easier to get used to.
Here in my country cintiq pro 24 no touch price same as cintiq 24 touch in US
dude you're so talented! Love all your videos!
I have the same feeling with the touch screen. I mean if I'm paying so much extra for a feature it shouldn't have cons that's gonna make me have it off sometime.
Great review! Maybe one day... but I prefer the iPad Pro for portability. It feels good and simple too. I had an older cintiq for a few years, and that worked great! But I can’t really stand being tied to a desk anymore
Awesome review, Brad. Because I'm so stingy about the price, it's hard to actually acknowledge that Wacom is the best there is (though not by a mile as they once were). A couple questions though, if you don't mind.
You said that there are a few Wacom alternative that give you that "good" feeling, can you name drop them? And previously you said that the only cintiq that you've used were the old ones and then you started using SP3 and Wacom alternatives, now that you had proper time with Wacom's latest, have your opinions on Wacom alternatives change?
Can I have a question? As a reviewer who "buys" (not sure if you actually buy all those things or just borrow them for the review and then return) all these things, what do you do with them when the new version comes out? For example the iPad. When you have the 2017 version and you buy the 2018 I can't imagine you would keep using the old one anymore. What do you do with those old gadgets? .. because I love to draw and I'd love to own an iPad but from my salary I just can't afford the 1500 $ price tag. So I was wondering if there was a way to get a used one when people get rid of them after reviews for example..
go on ebay, i saw a lot of affordable offer for iPad. plus, u need to sprinkle in extra $100 for the apple pen, if u want it, then go on Amazon, they sell if for $94
Hey Brad, have you tried the firmware update that allows users to lower the fan speed? Does it help with the noise? I'm planning on also using the Cintiq as a monitor when not in use, so would definitely prefer something quiet and am looking for reviews of the firmware update before I throw money at it. Love your channel btw.
8,000 levels of pressure sounds impressive, but if you think about it, if you're working in 8-bit RBG, each color channel only has 256 possible values. 10-bit color gets you up to 1,024 values, so it seems to me that anything over that is probably unnecessary.
You missed a Pro about Cintiq: The screen's coat! It's magic!
I don't know how Wacom do it, but your screen will never be scratched easily from pen's tip or metal dust. And the screen's coat will long last forever.
ARGHH!! THE TOUCH!! Why can't Wacom get the touch situation figured out? This has plagued their devices from the beginning. The false touches and mysterious palm lines on my 27qhd are frustrating because I want to use the touch features in my workflow, but can't. It is sad and depressing to see that the new models STILL have this problem. Great review Brad. Think I'll be hanging on to my 27. Parallax seems to be the only improvement and that's not enough to upgrade.
A lady and a guy from Australia were mentioning about pixel jittering(static noise) that could be easily seen on the tablet. The lady advised not buying it till the issue is resolved on the next gen. Whats your take on that?
Thanks for the nice review. I was using cintiq pro13 and ipad pro for drawing but just ordered Contiq pro24 non touch cuz I was having same issue that touch function intterupt easily and i don't really need at all.
I bought one of these before I saw this review. Can attest to it's awesomeness if you're able to invest in it. I spent all my holiday savings on it when my 11-year old cintiq 21UX died. It was worth every penny. The ergo arm is worth it too. When I'm not using it to draw on, it's a second monitor display and I can actually fit it on my already cluttered desk! The touch sensitivities have issues at times. I don't use that feature in anything but Photoshop as it seems to be way too sensitive and adds marks or elements in places I don't want (like a new bezier point in Illustrator or something). It's also frustrating that the pinch and zoom feature is not cross-program, as I would love to be able to set it up in Adobe Animate and TVPaint!
Great machine... So you are saying that This should hook straight up with a windows laptop using the USB-C to the USC-C connection on the laptop? I have this device (loan) but it came without cables. I have tried 3 different USBCs but it doesn't work... any ideas?
Thank you for the review! I will be trading my Cintiq Pro 16 with a non-touch version of Pro 24 this Wednesday. I was using Cintiq 21UX DTK-2100 but I noticed some serious lag. And I want to upload my process on RUclips someday so I need something with 16:9 ratio.
Touch used to work great, the palm rejection was perfect. All the driver problems started with that Windows ink update a while back and touch has never been the same since. They've fixed the major problems but I still get glitchy appearances of the popup keyboard on my cintiq companion. I think it misreads palm touches as gestures. It's really annoying they got rid of the vesa mounts as I have an ergotron for my old 21 ux that still works perfectly! I saw that they're partnering with ergotron to bring out a new arm to fit these screens, I bet they'll be wacom priced though!
Beautiful Poster, Brad!!!! And a complete and clear review, as always. Thanks
I love the art you made!
This is epic, I’d get one but there’s no way I’ve got any room on my desk for this
I have the Wacom 13HD and mostly love it. The screen responsiveness and drawing feel are fantastic and the pen is great. I do want a larger drawing space though so I'm interested in upgrading. My main issue with the 13HD is it's not a very accurate screen. First off, the image looks grainy so it doesn't look clean compared to when I'm drawing on an iPad or Samsung Note 9. Second, the color reproduction sucks. I can be erasing areas and everything looks like it is gone, but when I look at the second larger monitor that I have duplicated, I can see light grey areas that don't show on the Wacom unit at all that I have to go back and finish erasing. I would assume the Cintiq Pro 24 would fix that issue since the color is very accurate. I also feel like the 13HD isn't very bright and that also makes it harder to work on.
I do question the graininess though and whether it's on this improved product. Brad, have you noticed a grainy look on the screen in comparison to tablets and phones which don't have that at all?
Great review. I agree with almost everything you’ve said. There’s nothing better to draw on digitally. I’ve got the ergo stand too which is also great. However I’ve had a nightmare with Wacom and their after care service. My first device had a dead pixel. They eventually agreed to swap it for another model but that turned out to be a refurb and that had an even bigger cluster of dead pixels. I got my second replacement today which they said would be brand new but that had two dead pixels and a scratch on the screen so I reckon that’s a refurb too. So that’s 3 Cintiq Pro 24 models now that all have dead pixels. Any issues with your review model?
No, I haven't had any yet.
I think I am leaning towards the Huion at 1189 GBP. Great review of both. TY
Great review. I've loved using mine. Sure, it's not cheap but the quality is exceptional and it feels INCREDIBLE to draw with. The fact that it's got a stunning 4K screen is just the icing on the cake.
HEY Brad, my name is Delyan Kostov (felow youtuber and artist) , i appreciate your chanel and diligence to present the reviews in educational and in the same time fun way.
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Among all the available workstation /convertible PC s wit stylus support (such as Microsoft book, Hp zbook, lenovo thinkpad, yoga...est) wich stylus and painting overall experience is the closest to Wacom stylus technology?
Brad your art skills are multiplying and increasing all the time. The perspective and anatomy of the opening picture of the characters you drew are incredible as always, and I LOVE the self portrait, stunning, looks just like you!☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️ the Cowboy Wanted Poster was a hilarious finishing touch to the picture ☺️☺️☺️
Great review. For photography, would you recommend the 24, or the 16 cintiq pro?
Curious how you would compare it to the Dell Canvas? I thought for sure Wacom would have nailed the touch experience by now and it is definitely a feature I've come to love on the Dell.
Agree, they make you pay $500 more for a "feature" you have to turn off ?!
The screen definitely looks better than the canvas, less parallax/more pixels. I don't remember having a problem with touch on the Dell, but it's been a while, I might have to go back and watch my own review :D
@@thebradcolbow *spoiler* It was a good review worth the rewatch :) Glad to see you are enjoying the new Wacom. Can't wait to see reviews for the 32 too. Hopefully Wacom will reach out and send you one.
Im looking into buying this but I'm also looking to buy a laptop for both graphic designing and doing digital. I kept researching for a laptop that can use the Wacom tablet fotart and design but I only managed to find the surface pro 8 and or a apple1 but not cant use the tablet, was wondering what laptopci can buy that can do art and desogning that can host this
Do you think they will make a newer version this year? Kinda do not want to buy this and then they release a cheaper 2k version or something.
*saw my country sell cost on cintiq 24 pro + taxes*
*faint*
can u review the ipad pro, and see if u can connect it to you laptop and use it like a wacom tablet?
The Cintiq pro 24 is "wanted"! I was not crazy about how heavy this is
Did you try it on Clip Studio Paint? I find the touch interface works really well in that program, (on the Dell Canvas). Adobe and Touch don't always play well depending on your hardware.
Thanks for the review Brad, very useful.I hope someone send you new ipad pro for a review, looking forward!
What kind of pc do I need for this to run optimally. I’m hoping nothing too expensive 😅
When is the Ipad Pro and apple pencil 2 review coming out?
I'm shooting for Monday!
Good review Brad. I had already planned to upgrade my current Cintiq to the new 24 touch version. I'm still deciding on whether to use my egrotron or invest in the new stands for these. Btw... when using a Cintiq like this, most people use a workstation or a laptop workstation (something that is powerful) as it's used on a desk environment. I point this out because, another thing commonly used is a 2nd Monitor, (or rather the Cintiq is used as the 2nd monitor). If you are investing in a Cintiq, you currently are or plan to do some professional work on it. Having another monitor is extremely helpful for a number of reasons but, a primary function is for color profiles (both print & web). You instantly have "free eyes" to view your colors.
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Slight;y off-topic: I'll be honest Brad, I'm surprised you don't invest in knowing and understanding color profiles, as it can only help you (including your web only artwork). For example: If you ever spent 5 seconds deciding on what color shade fits best in your artwork, then you should know that someone else's device could alter the look of your artwork's color. Understanding this, allows you to anticipate that a color you might like in front of "you," may not transition well to everyone else. Food for thought!
You should really try the touch features attaching it on a windows machine. On Mac touch is only a sort of emulation of keyboard strokes in Photoshop. (unless Adobe has finally decided to implemented the same touch gestures the Windows version has since CC2014)
How you tried the 27 inch Cintiq Pro?
is the screen slippery when drawing on it?
My dream is to draw on that one, currently I'm using the Ipad pro but omg that screen, size matters xD
Can you review the new iPad pro 2018?
Yes, should get it Tomorrow and have the review by Monday!
@@thebradcolbow Hey Brad, someone commented about the smaller thickness of the glass on the ipad pro 2018 compared with the ipad pro 2017, meaning, in the 2018 ipad when you press with the apple pencil you see very easily a "pressure point" (small darkening) on the lcd following the tip even when you don't press too hard. Do you confirm that?
This looks awesome. Ive been looking at something to get my 11 year old daughter for christmas. She loves drawing, and I really encourage it. But I think I will start her with a surfave pro 6 for her first computer. As time goes on, and she gets better, and shows that she has more interest, I would get her something more expensive and better. The pen sensitivity turns me off on the surface pro, but her being 11 and a beginner. I feel that may be a good start. Plus she was only asking for a laptop so she can watch videos and go on the internet. I figured I'd find something that she was able to draw with since she loves drawing at home on paper all the time. I want to see what she could do on the computer and encourage her to get into graphic arts. She has been working on drawing an eye as realistic as she can, and drawing anime.
Just ordered the 24 and I was so worried because of some bad reviews but I went for it and I hope I made the right choice, so you still like it or have you found problems after a while?
Great review. How would you compare this to a 16" tablet? Do you feel that the extra screen real estate is that much of a difference or even necessary for professional drawing, painting, and concept art? I have a Cintiq Pro 16" and have been thinking about upgrading. Thank you.
Looking forward to your iPad pro 2018 review. Any idea on when that might be?
Monday! well, next Monday ;)
Brad Colbow awesome, can't wait. I'm an comic artist and really interested in it and would love to know your opinion/recommendation on it from an artist standpoint
Id like to do digital painting. is the cintiq 22 a good alternative to the pro 24? The pro is just too expensive.
I wish there was a 17 in version.
I know they are two opposite extremes, but how about the drawability of the iPad Pro (w/Pencil) v this new beast from Wacom?
I want one but I live in California, we don’t know when it going to come so I’m scared.
Is this better than the Huion Kamvas pro 24?
When you say "little to no parallax" how much is there? Are we talking like .5mm or more?
I have 22hd touch please suggest should i go for 24pro
Hello, I purchased this model on Saturday, I have yet to test it though. I like the remote. the touch buttons on the top don't seem to be working is there something I should do? thanks for the review
QHD
What video/animation editing software does this come with? That would be a really huge con if it doesn't have any inbuilt software for animation.
Very nice review. Liked watching you use it while talking.
Thanks for the review, I was thinking about buying this mainly for 3d sculpting / painting (Zbrush).
so im torn between getting a cintiq 24 or ipad pro . I can't decide since ive been drawing on the ipad pro and never really had the chance to try the cintiq pro series line. Any advice?
Kind of random question but I need help. Drawing wise,What’s the difference between photoshop and illustrator? Which is the best for art work? Thanks
Is it good for fashion illustration
I am new to art tablets and i am interested in the wacom brand but actually the 16 right now I am working off of a surface pro which is very small and usually do art on paper so I want to try my hand at a tablet. ., I seen others talking about making sure it works with the system. I am assuming it means the computer that I have?? How will I know if it does or not. ? thank you
Great review as always. And I already know the pen has tilt support, but how about rotation?
probably the best drawing process in a review. RDR... badass as hell, dude.
I can never affort this tablet, but i really liked your video about it. Also love the drawing red dead style. Keep it up Brad love you reviews!!
Thanks much for addressing the touch aspects!
wait, what’s Anchor Point illustrations?
Checking out all your videos tryi g to decide what kind of tablet I should go for. Haven't been able to paint/draw for about ten years because I have M.E, but my hands are working better again, and a friend suggested getting something digital to make it easier.
So going to be saving up for a while (as I can't work) and hoping to find a secondhand bargain :) thank you for your work ♥