Are BEECH WOOD bats really hotter than Maple bats? Wood Bat Review
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- Today the Bat Bros try out the highly-touted "Beech" wood bats from Camwood Bats and Mine Bats. According to Mine and Camwood, these beech wood bats should get us an additional 2 to 3 mph of exit velo compared to a standard maple or birch wood bat.
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It's awesome that Camwood offers that money-back guarantee-you can't beat that. We fully understand how subjective exit velocity can be, which is why we ensure that any reference to exit velo comes directly from real customer testimonials or reviews sent to us (like the one clipped here). As a relatively new company, we're striving to make the best wood bats possible. We truly believe European Beech is the best wood out there due to its unique combination of density, bending strength, and durability. We're just grateful that more people are starting to give it (and us) a chance in such a competitive industry. Thanks, Will, for always being willing to give our bats a shot on your channel!
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Your RUclips banner literally says "greater exit velocity" it's still false advertising even if you got an email from a customer that said it was true.
@@Garrettcubed haha wow egg on our face. You're absolutely right it does say that. That banner has been up since we first launched our RUclips channel years ago, and there's a few incorrect statements on it that no longer align with our messaging. We've fixed it, thanks for pointing that out!
@@minebaseball If it no longer lines with your messaging, I have to ask why it was still up to begin with. One would think a new company trying to get off the ground would be on that, so there isn't people around saying you're false advertising. The goal for any wood bat maker obviously is to get pros swinging your bat. I wouldn't swing your bat if there was even a potential for concern that your marketing is lying for years to consumers if I were in the MLB.
@@kylehicks9690Perhaps it has just been overlooked because they've been busy sourcing the wood to make the bats, buying replacement parts for the machines that make the bats, making the bats, or busy responding to overly critical people such as yourself who will probably never purchase a bat from them anyways. The fact that they acknowledged the mistake you pointed out and went through the effort to change it shows they're at least willing to listen and make the changes necessary to be a better company.
I’m a custom woodworker. The reason for ash is for the safety of the players. It’s dense with long strand like grain so when it breaks it doesn’t explode. Due to the emerald ash borer blight on ash trees maple, birch, and beach have become popular. Most cooking utensils are make from beach for its durability but when all 3 of these break as they absolutely will, they explode sending very sharp pieces of wood at the infielders. I love your work! Keep it up!
I’m curious are there any other woods that aren’t used that you think might make a decent bat?
Hay do you think ironwood would make a good bat?
Possibly willow, considering cricket bats are made from it.@@sonicrose8430
@@luishion if you had were very strong it could.. I’ve actually considered the same thing as ironwood grows on the trail next to my little league I played at. If you look up a density chart of wood you can see where they range. The more dense the heavier per unit. Also the most dense wood currently Ipe has cost me an awful lot in broken carbide bits. I guess anything is possible,but I think our forefathers had a better understanding of so many things including uses of wood. Ash was used based on centuries of knowledge that used to be required to exist.
@@sonicrose8430 well I think that ash was chosen based on centuries of knowledge completely void of consultants and other irritants degrading our culture. The closest may be hickory but it’s heavy and wants to move with humidity. Almost every tree you see was planted by us for us with a clear understanding of its value and durability dating back millennia. Sorry, ask an artist and get a mouthful but I love this stuff, including watching someone hit baseballs at night! Weird world huh?
I've never played an inning of baseball in my life but this is one of my favorite channels on YT, I never miss an upload. Great stuff Will & crew!
Go play!
Can you start doing bat bro wills kicks of the month pls
Bro 2022 vibes, pls
Will's Kicks Picks
I'm not even into baseball anymore but this is fun to watch. Great channel! Good job!
It cracks me up how every time he gets a 40 dollar wood bat from amazon it turns out to be legitimately good lol
Would love to see a review on Viper custom bats! Their claim is that they are one of the cheapest high quality custom wood bats, and they’re based in western Washington. Love your content!
Friggin love this guy… saving people cash and NOT BOUGHT by corporations… stay that way, we appreciate it!!!
Bought my kid both beech wood bats.. he definitely prefers the Mine bat.. and as the guy who’s buying them I like the 6 month warranty, because every wood bat will break
When will the award show be
Review the USA Easton Adv -5
I can't be the only one that watches these videos just for the sound of the bat hitting the ball
If the bat bros post I will watch.
Same , I’m a simple man lol
That’s a crazy pfp😭😭 @Mia-vwM
Ahh, I’m sure. 🤖
Review the Axe Composite!
What time does he film these videos, because the lighting is always dark
Marucci cu 26 🔥🔥
Off the bat bros sign 105 with the Amazon special was iconic
I think you guys should partner with a woodworking channel or bat maker or something and get some bats made out of all kinds of different woods. Walnut, Cherry, Mahogany, idk. Heck, throw in a balsa wood one just for fun. And then compare EVs to see how big the gap between the worst wood and best wood is. Would be really interesting.
Cause thing is I feel like there must be a better wood than maple, because there ARE differences. Thats why they dont use hickory anymore, its TOO dense. 700ish g/m³ seems to be the sweet spot, Maple, Ash, Birch, and Beech are are right there, while hickory gets up to 800-900. Bamboo is about 300 for comparison. And then theres the hardness, like how they decide which woods they make flooring out of. Maple and Ash are pretty average, but ebony is like 3x as hard and balsa wood is...well. Balsa wood...
And people talk about trying to close the pores, well usually softwood like pine doesn't have any. How does that affect things?
Yo what’s up can you review the new 2025 icon please
When is the new icon coming?
I would just buy that $40 Louisville Slugger and call it a day.
Could you review the latest Axe wood composite bat?
Where is the cat x 2 drop 5 vid
Bat prices are getting out of control. At this rate you'll be paying $400-500 for a "high-end" wood bat in 10 years. That's insane. One bat I don't think baseball bat bros has tried is a Zinger bat. Through some odd chance I secured an off-spec Eric Hosmer Zinger bat about 10 years ago. It was the hottest wood bat I'd swung, and I used Zinger bats ever since. Even Zinger bats have crept up in price, but I'd love to see BBB try some of their wood instead off the typical names.
Tbh that's already happening, $400-500 bats do exist. The good thing though is that we have good budget options, and the budget options available to us today are arguably MUCH better than they were 10-15 years ago. When I was in high school I'd have loved to be able to get something like a Stringking for $100. So while you *can* pay hundreds for a bat, there's really no reason to. We live in a golden age of bats compared to what people used to have to deal with.
LOL..."They're all trees"
What if they switched to a 3d printed bat league
Very off topic question but does the 2024 icon swing heavy/is it endloaded for a -5?
I want that pink/white hat! When will it be on sale??
'Life's a beech'
Swing a drop 10 and find the undisputed -10 usssa bat.
My entire young baseball playing life all the way to High School was with a Louisville Slugger. I was always tight on money and had to buy my own bats and just found them to be the best bang for the buck. I could buy 2 or 3 and still have money for gloves and other gear. I did drool over Baum Bats when they came out though ngl.
So with the beechwood bats, Mine bats says they need to be broken in like a composite bat. To see the increase in velocity. I don't know if you were aware of that before comparing woods
we have a good amount of swings on that Mine Bat already. Not sure exactly how many they're recommending though.
Quick Question, are the Victus vandal bbcor and the Cat 7/ Marruci F5 bbcor pretty similar? One is way cheaper than the other.
Would be cool to test a game used mlb bat vs a consumer model.
The streets say best wood saved for mlb and therefore more exit velocity
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I just got that $40 dollar bat. It’s really good!
Do you use MLB baseballs?
He uses a pitching machine baseball called "Champro Practice Baseball". ruclips.net/video/TqUBBr_X0tw/видео.html
Have you seen or tried the new Mine Baseball wood bats? Has a rubberized handle to take the sting out and good grip. They are pricey but are they good or just a gimmick?
I bought a bamboo bat yesterday. Would like to see you swing one also.
I grew up using wood bats through my Babe Ruth years. I had to switch to some of the first aluminum pincers in American Legion and college ball. As a radio sportscaster, I covered Oklahoma State with Pete Incaviligia during his monster year. I really enjoy your breakdown (and breaking) of today's bats. I think it's hilarious that the cheap Louisville Slugger today is pretty much the same value bat as when I was a young teen.
I remember Pete’s monster year.
A video about smaller wood bat brands compared to big brands would be solid. I see a lot of small business on just bats but just don’t know if the wood is as high quality
Bruh I knew the extra 2 mph was absolutely BS
Sorry mom, I can't fold the dishes. New Will Taylor wood bat DLC just dropped
Fold the dishes?
You need to test out the george brett thing. Tar the barrel up and see if it improves/ increases backspin and stuff
Im waiting for the pencil bat showdown
Do you like the voodoo or the stinger Nuke 3 better. Could you make a video on this????
This is the video I’ve been waiting for. I love my CamWood. I can tap a pitch and it’ll go.
Will can I give an opinion/idea. Often times I forget or miss to liking your video cause they end so quickly. Maybe your could try giving it a 3-5 second dead air with your logo at the very end and message to like and sub the video and see what happens. Me and my boys truly love your content!!!
How do you "miss" liking it? Do you have auto-play on? I get pestered enough about smashing that like button and subscribing on every video on this site. If I'm going to do either, I can do it without being told.
The hat is 🔥 🔥 🔥 where can I get one?
I only swing mine bats, best feeling bat I've ever used and will literally last forever.
Camwood only got MLB approved recently I believe.
R u guys using banana balls
What kind of grips are one these?
Vulcan 0.5’s
@@baseballbatbrosthanks big dawg
as woodworker and failed baseball player the question of what makes a good baseball bat has always intrigued me. if you look at the Janka hardness scale...Beech is at 1300 (out of 4000), Maple is at 1420... however Hickory like the very old baseball bats are at 1820. That being said..saying a bat is "maple"...doesn't really narrow it down as there are several species at different hardness. As a woodworker/carver I'm always looking for straight super tight grain ..which is really only found in trees that are old growth and have grown up in an old growth forest (so they have to reach high for that "canopy" light and don't grow limbs until they'e gotten sufficient light. However...commercially we don't have a whole lot of old growth forests anymore...and what they are categorizing as "old growth" now is different than what it was when timber barrens started mowing the forests down. So I'm guessing the quality of wood that you are finding now...is probably a lot lower quality in comparison to the trees/lumber that was being used a few decades ago. beech??? they were mainly Hickory (which also was also the preferred for tool/axe handles)..so extremely durable or Ash (1320 Janka). Ash on the other hand has a slight flex..(which is why it's preferred on canoe paddles)... so it's more forgiving than Hickory or Maple. But..when looking for a good wood bat my father said the more growth rings you can count the stronger/better the bat is. I'm guessing that the technology and shape of wood bats have improved in proportionately with the decreasing in the quality of wood that's being sourced to make them. I'm also presuming no bat company is going to use that in their marketing. anyways...I think about this way too much.
They are using European Beech which has a janka hardness of 1450. American Beech is at 1300.
I bet the ash bats used by players in the early 1900s had more pop due to being cut from legit old growth trees.
@@justins2065 WOW ... that'd do it! Thanks! they must source from those northern countries. It'd be cool if they'd take the paint off the bat so we can see what the growth rings look like on them as well.
@@afreiden yeah...I was wondering about that too...I think the only caveat is that the bats were shaped differently the handles were thicker and the barrels narrower. So probably wouldn't get the same bat speed at the head. but it'd be nice to check out!
wonder what a Yew wood bat be like. It was used for bows...and weapons at one time... 1520 on the Janka Hardness scale. but hard to find good sized yew now a days.. people were girdling trees back in the 80's when they found that the bark had cancer fighting properties.
Should I get the Cat 9 one piece bbcor or F5 bbcor? (Same price) Both 139 bucks
I would really like to know your camera set up.
What is the release date on that hat?🔥🔥🔥
As a woodworker myself for 80 years I can say I have no idea what I’m talking about
Thank you for testing the marketing claims and for the honest reviews.
This is the review we have been waiting for as far as wood bats….
Awesome job!
I have the marucci gamer. It slaps.
Bro I need that hat!! lol
I’ll do a push up for every like this comment gets (Give me something difficult)
49 straight 😈
Hurry cause I’m ending this tomorrow
I got you
69th!!! Let’s goooo
I have a feeling 76 is more than you can handle.
Thank you, i’ve been wanting a video on this
I notice the beechwood carries further on miss hits
Gotta try out Barnstable Bats from Cape Cod. Makes custom bats in Birch, Ash, and Maple and all the different types of models like 243 or 271.
I don't mean this negatively, but what's the point? Will is clearly of the opinion that wood is wood and trees are trees. A $160 maple from Marucci is a $160 maple from LS is a $160 maple from Barnstable. Promoting smaller business aside, if you're comparing 243's or 271's that are the same wood and same price just different manufacturers, over the course of a bunch of bats won't the result have to basically be identical?
I had a wood bat tourney a week ago and I came here to find the wood bat I should swing. I came into this wanting to swing my friends AP5 but I just happen to have the 40$ Louisville slugger genuine bat in my garage and I decided to swing my bat for the tourney. I went 6-7 on the tourney with 3 doubles! Thanks Will!
Luv the vid I have a maple
Love the drops but…. You have to compare the same turn models, if not the comparison is void. Use two i13 maple vs Euro Beech then your good🫡
These are all extremely similar barrel profiles and swing weights.
Agreed comparing i13 to a balanced is not same swing weight and won't have same consistent barrels
@@dbiggybatsthe balanced Mine and the Camwood i13 had similar profiles and weighting. The Marucci and Louisville are also both roughly an i13 turn (AP5 & RA13).
Regardless, no two wood bat companies share the same exact definition of “i13” or “balanced” unfortunately. Wild West.
@@baseballbatbrosi13 isn’t balanced at all is what I was referring to. 110/271/RA13 from CamWood are for sure. I13/FT23 more semi to end load. You even noted the feel in the demo. That said good video appreciate the head to head. The claims of +2 mph are from MLB clubs we’ve sent bats to so will definitely stand behind it if they are
couple years of watching your vids and you got me ready to buy a bucket of balls and one of those amazon bats.
I wish I had watched this vid before getting the Mine Natural.
lets forget the bats for a second so we can focus on that drippy hat 🔥 need one of those for sure! great vid as always boys👊 Will is low key obsessed with his new found $40 sticks ;) but that's what makes this channel what it is, pure honesty. It's nice to know that some kids out there will be able to get a useable gamer that otherwise may not be in a financial position to afford the higher end models and won't have to sacrifice performance. Hopefully greed stays away from these bats after these reviews and they continue to stay at this price point.
What’s a good balanced wood bat option for a 14 year old -3 as well? Thanks
Those $80 Marucci Gamers have always been super balanced from my experience
@@baseballbatbros thank you
zack gelof's bat is the best bat cuz hes best player baseball has ever seen
You and JT should run a home run derby against Eric Byrnes and Eric Sim. The Bat Bros VS The Erics
It'll be a really sad day when the Louisville Slugger for $40 breaks. That bat has been superb, and a huge surprise
The swing weight on the Marucci Rake is perfect. I went to Dicks Sporting Goods a few months back to pick one up for my son but didn't purchase do to the reviews talking about durability. After watching the last two wood bat videos I am definitely opening the wallet this weekend. Appreciate the wood bat content once again.
Grew up using a beech wood bat and loved it! The thing felt amazing and never broke I just outgrew it.
PLEASE REVIEW THE HALLOWED COLLECTION WOOD BATS!! I HAVE NO IDEA IF THEYRE ANY GOOD OR NOT
Loving the wood bat content lately brother good fresh change from the metal bats
Petition to ban the comment “first”
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Normally I would say “#stoplikebeggars,” but this comment to damn real to say that
You have my like 👍
Don't play any leagues but do go to the cage quite a bit and very much enjoy my Camwood bats i have.
Love your videos
Baseball bat bros you should try the stinger missile s vs the voodoo, the stinger guardian vs the goods 1-pc, and the stinger nuke 3 vs the goods 2-piece because they all have similar stats and stinger bats try to compete with DeMarini!
Going crazy with wood videos! Love it.
Got to see JT play in Trenton over the weekend! Hitting 3rd for an MLB Draft League team. Stoked to see both brothers doing big things!
I love your vids I have gotten a lot of information off your bat videos thank you for all that you do I know we all appreciate you keep up the good work
- Aiden Winchester 11u
That hat is 🔥
Crazy how the ap5 is the go to marucci bat. Curious if that is your favorite marucci turn model no matter price.
Lindy12 is probably my favorite. AP5 is a good model though. Very similar to an i13 which I love
@@baseballbatbros remember you had the burnt wood handle Lindy 12 and it performed great. Appreciate the response.
If the bat bros post I will watch
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@@carbonSZN and I got ratio’d 😭😭
@@KirbysFakePunt rip my brotha
Baum bats aren't really wood bats.
I've always liked the $40 Louisville slugger, it's about getting tight grains and a good piece of lumber
Can you review the 2025 Rawlings icon when it comes out
Every Voodoo Tournament! Please :)
That's why we are here. Honest and to-the-point bat reviews. Now once we get "Lefty Will's" opinion, it will be set in stone. 🤣 Rock on Bro's 🤘😎
Love this video man!
Do a slow motion camera and see how much each bat flexes when it hits the ball
Collab with The Slow Mo Guys? Let's get it.
Can we please see your buddy behind the pitching machine take some g hacks let’s go !!!!!
Let me real… he’s out of idea and waiting on the 2025 bats but we all are waiting on the 2025 bats😊
Nah we’ve been wanting to do this video for awhile. The wood bat content is sick.
@@baseballbatbrosabsolutely right
Can’t miss a bat bros upload