Bless you man just reinforces why I wouldn’t buy a Thor. If the high end models like your coach have that many problems just imagine the quality control on the lower end coaches
Dude, the rv thing just looks overwhelming for me. I want to go have fun, not trouble shoot and stress on my vacation. But thank you for taking this time, you people are amazing that do this real review stuff. I hope you get sorted and get back out there.
Thank you. I believe it takes around 1 year to work out the bugs and get to really know your rig. We have had a really good time with out outings. This summer we will be taking some long trips.
Everyone planning to buy a Thor product needs to send you a big thank you for 7:52 of this video, where you open the bed and expose the rats nest of wires. It all I needed to see, great review. I wonder if Thor has ever looked into how some boat manufacturers rout and label their wiring and piping?
Yeah all of those wires just show you how Professional Thor RV Company is. Someone just didn't care for Quality and there sure wasn't someone checking behind that person in Quality Control .
after seeing your video I will not buy an RV now I was interested in buying one but the money you spend for them and then I'm looking at the problems that you are having I'm not going to waste my time thanks for your video
We had some of these same issues, but my husband was able to fix them. We did have to have the break switch changed out. The brake lights were staying on as we drove. We did not have the luxury of staying at the dealer for a night or two as we traveled from NC to Louisiana over a three day weekend to pick up our unit. The dealer insisted even though they had our deposit and our financing done, that we pick it up before the end of the month which was only a few days away so we had to do the pickup quickly. The sink in the back is a bit difficult to use, as it sits under the upper mirrored cabinet, and when brushing your teeth, it is challenging. The shower also drains into the black water tank in the back so that is a challenge to not fill up that tank. Also the bathroom space around the commode is not very big, so consider that when looking at this particular unit. I think I would prefer to have the one bathroom only and have a little more space in it. This unit does not have a washer dryer hookup space either, that we have found. I don't know where it would actually go because there is no space for a unit. The pipes under the bed were not glued, and when we put water into the holding tank, it leaked into the outside compartment and all of our Christmas gifts got wet. No biggie, more annoying than anything else. What worried my husband is that all the wiring that is also under the bed. I found the tank leak when I found water on my bedroom floor coming from under the bed. We understand that whenever you buy something new there are always little things to fix, but some of these things could result in major damage. Because we had known about some of the problems, my husband checked for them right away and fixed them. The wires hanging under the coach had to be tied up and the black water expel from the back bathroom had to be fixed by adding a swivel to the outlet, and a hole cut in the bin. that was never done. Our moon slide is going to have to have more screws put in it so it slides properly. We have not even attempted to use the TV's yet. Our pump in the back is vibrating against something and we will fix that. My floor has some staining and I am told that is from the installation and that having them change the floor could result in an even bigger disaster. So I just put some rugs down. We also had to put all new screws in the trim around the slides, as it was falling off, and we didn't want to loose a piece while on the road. We will fix things as we find them. I am still happy with my coach, as it is a comfortable ride and driver. It fits our budget at the moment. Since we are not on the road full time, or even in a retired state yet, we will just enjoy what we have, and fix things as needed. I don't see this as a big negative for the coach, as much as I do for the company. They really have an issue with either the cheap things they install, or they have an issue with the employees they hire not putting the effort into the pride of their work. Management also needs to think about who they have in key positions because if they can't control what their workers are doing, or just don't care, they will not be around very long. And I just heard that Thor has acquired another big name manufacturer in the RV industry. Hang in there Thor owners.
This was very helpful. I’m researching now to purchase my first RV and no expert ever mentioned plan to stay at the dealership and camp so you use things and if they break you’re still there. That’s great advice.
Welcome to the Magnitude family! I have an XG32. If you haven’t gone over to the Thor forums, I highly suggest it. You will see some of the major issues we’ve all been having, the biggest one is the front cap separation. Please look it up and get on it now before it becomes something bigger. Thanks for the video. With all the problems, we still love ours after almost two years in it.
Beautiful RV. Thank you for sharing your ordeals! Water damage is like cancer to anything that isn't plastic or stainless steel. Hopefully your leak wasn't too bad.
Wow! The unit you have has been my first choice. Very surprised on the quality issues. Likewise the response to warranty issues. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Thanks for taking the time to document your experience. I am looking to buy a Super C motor home and this Thor was one of the choices. Your items of concern are areas I would not have thought of in looking over the unit.
To hell with that, I’d be demanding a new rig or a full refund … at least in CA where we have strong lemon laws. That wiring under the bed looks like a disaster waiting to happen
Appreciate it, these are serious issues that can inconvenience a trip. Thank you very much. I really wanted to buy a Thor, now I don't know what to do. Thanks again
Wow, I'm glad I seen this, we bought a 2022 gas MH and we were thinking about getting a DP and the salesman was trying to sale us this same one, hmmm, now I know that most will have issues, but I hope they all got work out for you.
@@CatFoodDraino thank you for asking, our first local camping trip just to check it out and make sure everything's working was terrible. Our model has this macerator type pump installed in the wet Bay that nobody knew at the dealership what it was for we finally called Thor and they said it was to circulate the black tank water from the bottom to the top of the tank, still don't know what that's for but the worst part about it is where the pump is it's leaking and during our camping trip we had to smell black water leaking. And then we leave and try to clean up that mess up and hook up the hose to the black water flush and it won't take water the hose just expands. Also my wife notices this weird imperfection in the windshield. So now we have our first real camping trip scheduled for later on this coming week and our RV is sitting at the dealer for the last 14 days telling us they're waiting on Thor to authorize them to fix it
@@kevinmcintosh9990 that’s a bummer. I hope you get it all worked out. When I bought my thor 2020 palazzo, we took it out every weekend and found every single squeak, squawk, leak, etc etc. we made sure we went out in heavy rains to find leaks. Glad we did. I think whenever anyone buys a MH or camper, take it out as much as you can during warranty. If you can’t get in for service, just make the claim with Thor so it’s dated. Thor was pretty darn good to us on repairs. I still find myself fixing things here and there, but the bones seem pretty good.
I'm glad you are taking the time to post the good and the bad. It's only too bad more owners and reviewers on RUclips don't do the same. We are considering the XG32, as well as the Dynamax Isata 5 30 FW and the Renegade Veracruz. Where there any other units you considered vs. the RS 36? Keep up the good work and good luck!
This is a problem with these manufacturers - they're in hurry to put out, and they end up doing shoddy work. Especially, if your rig cost ~200K or more. The government should put in a law about warranty work for RVs that you can get it serviced by any RV dealer. Thanks for being honest with all the issues you found - I would not have been a happy camper!
For blown tire cause, get your rig loaded and check the scale weights per axle and per corner if possible. You may be overloaded and need a full steel tire now, like Duravis etc.
Unbelievable , Thanks for posting this, I was just at a dealer in Melbourne Fl looking at one and I was sure it would be my choice to replace our 40 ft Class A. I will no longer be considering a Thor ,
A majority of RV mechanic’s will tell you Thor rigs are not built to last. Road vibration and twisting of the frame cause many issues loosening staples, screws, bolts, plumbing and wire connections. They are under allot of pressure to work too fast. Screws in wood without glue stripped by screw guns etc. Not using stainless screws for outside trims and fixtures. I have seen it all. Many RV manufacturers have a hard time getting good employees because pay is poor. In most cases Welfare pays more to sit home. The higher quality higher cost manufacturers have waiting periods of up to two years before delivery. Good luck to all that make that tough decision to purchase an RV. Be prepared to understand that this endeavor will require tons of patience for all the maintenance required to enjoy your RV.
There is no quality control in the production of RVs. They have found it's cheaper to just keep running them out the door and deal with the problems later. Their position is 1/3 of the problems get repaired at the dealership under warranty, 1/3 the owner repairs, and the other 1/3 never get fixed. Winning hand for them.
I am so grateful you made this video. I was about to get a Magnitude, but wil not proceed forward with a purchase. i find the issues you have to be unnecessary and careless on the manufacturers end. All the misinformation that was expressed to you, like the servicing of your issues, is also a red flag for me. I hope you still enjoy rv'ing.....because all of those issues would impact my experience.
Thats very disappointing. I really like these units. You'd think with the amount of plumbing problems they'd fire the people doing the plumbing installs. They are off my list of possibilities to buy.
Your problems are indicative of the quality RV manufacturers try to hoist on unsuspecting buyers. Dealers shouldn't have to put up with the crap manufacturers ship to them either. They get all the blame for selling such crappy RVs when the fault is with companies like Thor. Just glad most of your problems are solved. I'd also watch for problems down the road due to the floor having been flooded. Rot may be in your future. Hoping for the best for you & the rig.
Most of these issues are a result of poor workmanship by the mfg. Ridiculous that this is allowed by these companies. Obviously there are no REAL quality checks of each unit before it leaves the factory.
My wife and myself just bought one. Unfortunately a lot of the same problems. Still waiting on fresh tank. 3 solar panels don’t work, leaking fuel, the list of problems is very long.
Great video. That totally sucks, but for all you Thor haters, that's basically been my experience with my last several RV's, of various brands. I think that is probably the case with most RV brands, given there's only a handful of major RV manufacturers that produced RV's under various brands.
Not a Thor hater but it's hard to ignore the audit control issues they have with all their brands... Even Airstream products have dipped in quality... Thor had consistently been known for our quality for years... How did s company with poor quality become the biggest giant #1 RV producer..... ????
They were probably all owned by Thor. Thor is the world's largest RV manufacturer with many top name branded RV in the whole spectrum of class A through B+ and towed trailers. Used to be Tiffin, Jayco, Entegra, Dutchman, Keystone and Airstream were the best American RVs made--- before Thor bought them out and put quantity not quality as their business model to prop up their stock price.
Not surprising that your having so many problems. I have a mechanical background and it's the only thing that helped with all the problems we had . Still had to go to the dealer for slides to be fixed. Very disappointing ! 2015 Winnebago Adventurer ...we did get it all repaired, and now keep an eye on everything.
Wow.. Winnebago is considered one of the standards in RV quality.. I myself decided to purchased used.. 2006 Holiday Rambler admiral 33pbd.. let me tell you.. This RV is built better than newer high end RVs... My buddy owns a 2005 Winnebago adventurer and the quality is to notch on that RV as well.. Seems that after 2008 RV manufacturing took a dump...
Winnebago and their dealers have lost their way. Almost makes you want to build your own since you'll need those skills anyway if you buy from others now. Or you overpay for Gretch, Prevost, etc. In the words of Bender, We're boned.
I am so glad to here they are still building very hi quality 💩💩💩 .I had bought a brand new Thor Quantum 32 ft that spent more time at the factory .I purchased this coach for a cross country trip that was totaly ruined because of all the trouble we had .BUYER DO YOUR HOME WORK READ THE REVIEWS .THEY WILL NEVER STOP BUILDING THESE COACHES SO FAST THAT EMPLOYEES HAVE NO CHOICE BUT JUST SLAMMING THEM TOGETHER . SHAME ON THE PRESIDENT OF THIS COMPANY WHO JUST WANTS TO FILL HIS POCKETS WITH CASH.
Wow, for sure. I have to ask, do you think these are normal issues or can they be tied back to what we hear all over in the industry, with regard to poor manufacturing issues due to Covid and personnel issues slash shortages?
HI, I was told by the sales agent that all the RVs are coming in with numerous issues. Prior to this video...there were other issues the dealership took care of. In the end...for myself I expected this and am very grateful nothing big was wrong. For example, slide issues...cab pulling away from body, etc. I am now going through the process with Thor to get it fixed. I will do a video after my dealings with them is over. Thanks!
I have a 2014 solitude that’s never been winterized, in 2021 it got down to 9 degrees for two days in a row with no electricity and my rig never busted a pipe. I want a new rig and this type you have is something I’m i retested in but this video scares me.
I have a 2021 Thor Omni and I love the power of the diesel the ease of running everything. But with that being said, DO NOT BUY FROM CAMPING WORLD!!!! I've had some of these same issues and after 4 months I was able to get it in to get fixed. I made numerous calls to Thor to complain about the dealership not honoring the warranties and Thor took care of that. It's also hard to find Ford dealerships to honor the warranties on the chassis so research your area before you buy. Good luck
Wow I saw that rats nest of wiring and then when you talked about the whole floor being flooded I think I would sell that piece of shit because you’re just gonna have more and more problems Why didn’t your inspector catch the water leaks?
Thor really should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of worrying about that new chassis, they should’ve focused on getting these things built to quality. This is completely why I passed on the Magnitude. It’s a shame because they are a gorgeous rig but what’s the point if it’s lipstick on a pig. Shame on them.
I have taken it to Ford Service. You just have to check to make sure they work RVs. I would start at www.fordpro.com/en-us/dealer-locate and select Commercial services to see what comes up.
Such a shame to see such poor quality control on a unit that exceeds $250K. I absolutely love the Super C on the F550/F600 platform, but that workmanship is reprehensible!
I just stumbled across this video. Can you fill up at the high flow diesel pumps? I have a 21 Magnitude 34 SVR and the fuel hoses are so kinked that I can't fill from them as the pump kicks off. Thor and Ford each blamed the other and neither would fix it.
HI Robert. so…I have not issues with my back tank. But…my front tank always shows 1/8 empty even through it is full of gas. Unsure why. I did not ask Ford to check when I had it in the shop last and I am out of warranty. This is the only strange thing I see in my unit.
@@DidWe Thanks for the response. Sorry to hear about your issues with the fuel gauge. In my case I cannot take advantage of the TSD fuel savings as I can't use those pumps.
@@robertroth287 gotcha. I tried once..but was not able to get through the menus. But, I am able to fill up in truck lanes. We are doing a Magnitude / Omni meetup in central FL on Veterans Day weekend 2023 if you want to come and talk to other owners (www.eventbrite.com/e/thor-magnitude-omni-meetup-camp-margaritaville-in-auburndale-florida-tickets-596203951067) talks about it.
Production RVs are just a royal pain. The manufacturers just pump them out and I don’t think they give two shits if anything even works, just as long as it works when you buy it.
Your tank sensors aren’t backwards. I thought the same thing in my RS36. If you pull the bottom board out from under your bathroom sink you’ll see and unfortunately realize your shower drain is run the the black tank. You’ll fill the black tank incredibly fast taking showers.
HI Justin. I was told that too. I do not know for sure as I have not checked yet. But, we installed a washer / dryer. As we tested it I saw the black sensor state the tank was getting full. So, as a test, I took a big tub and dumped the gray water into the tub. It was washer / dryer water I could tell. When I looked at the sensor in the rig, the black status dropped down to 0 after I pulled the gray lever. So, this let me to believe the sensors are reversed. I will do more testing.
@@DidWe I just simply emptied both tanks, ran the shower only. Opened each valve independently and the black tank was the only one that had water in it. I was shocked to see it was plumbed that way.
@@DidWe definitely requires the need to take short camp showers when dry camping. However the issue is the tankless water heater doesn’t like that. The trick is to run the bathroom sink all the way hot so the tankless water heater doesn’t keep going on and off and cycling cold water. Then you can just turn the shower on and off as needed for the camp shower. Sink goes to gray and shower goes to black. Seems to help.
You poor man. you have just begun the slow uncomfortable slog with the Thor + dealership fingerpointing. You are in for a long unhappy ordeal that will definitely make you a one and done Thor product customer. A RV lifestyle channel called Liz Amazing (sorry I can't leave her link here because RUclips deletes all comments with active links). 2 weeks ago Liz regaled us with a Thor / Thor dealership ongoing nightmare with Sharon & Jeff, Thor Tuscony luxury RV that featured an initially responsive dealership and Thor cooperation to being totally ignored and still not corrected manufacturing and initial Pre-Delivery Inspection lies. My condolences for what you are about to discover about Thor and it's dealerships.
This is the state of the RV industry. My advice is if you can DON"T buy one. Wait because the quality right now is worse than anytime in history. If you do BUY USED only. Or don't buy at all and hopefully crashing sales will force these greedy companies to put a little more time and effort into these overpriced things. For as much money as you paid for this to have such basic issues like not screwing in plumbing pipes is unacceptable. That mess under your bed is unbelievable.
Such a beautiful rig and so expensive why can’t they do better. These problems come with any & all no matter the price rv’s and it just boils down to being in a rush to build a unit in 3 days. This is sickening that Americans can’t build something better. How much more will we eventually buy from China so that we can’t get a working product.
You are a more patient person than me. I would say that your RV failed inspection big time. I was strongly considering buying a Thor but after hearing your experience and the jack leg way they repaired stuff and to top if it off you have to fund your own warranty. I would say big fail. I am a home builder and deal with plumbing. The entire plumbing system must be pressurized using AIR first. We check the pressure gauge after 24 hours for any loss of air pressure. This is SOP in the home building industry long before water ever enters the home. And that freezing issue you are having is not acceptable. 200k for this POS. No way.
Guess we know Thor builds junk, no quality control. I'm actually in the market for a new super C, it won't be a Thor. Unfortunately most manufacturers are just as crappy as Thor.
Pre 2008 RVs are the sweet spot for quality.. I own a 2006 Holiday Rambler admiral 33pbd.. 8.1 vortec with Allison transmission.. double over drive and double grade brake control.. These things are quality.. the Monaco line up of Safari Monaco Holiday Rambler country coach beaver pre 2008 are quality units.. Buddy owns a 2005 Winnebago adventurer with the same Drivetrain as mine... That thing is built with high quality as well... Brands like tiffin and newmar pre 2020 seem to be built very well too if you wanted a newer used RV... Good luck
Thank you for the video showing all the issues, did you use an RV inspector before driving off the dealer lot? If you did it does not seem like you got your monies worth….
We had many issues as well. It spent 7 months at the dealership ordering parts and fixing all the factory issues. This is a super helpful video. Thanks for sharing!!!
I think I’m just shocked especially to the unbelievable mess of wires that are under your bed in this unit. That would of been a deal breaker for me from the get go. That’s just poor workmanship straight in your face. The 2nd deal breaker which ok maybe you as a consumer would not know but surely on the walk through of your RV the tech most certainly did is any grey water going into the black tank. Seems very sketchy to me that wasn’t set up intentionally & it’s a deal breaker. The fact is consumers are handing hundreds of thousands of dollars over for overpriced, overhyped pieces of poorly constructed RV’s & making the manufacturer’s rich & then youtuber’s show all the problems & they still purchase these overpriced poor construction pos & prices sore. So what’s the answer? Stop buying them. Stop blaming Covid or inflation cause the problem is the buyers not stepping back & demand quality for the money they are throwing away on this industry. If you don’t require better you get garbage. Sorry for the rant but people really need to be buyer beware & just because a salesman says this or that without any fact check you are on the losing end. Ok rant really over.
WOW!!! 😲 THAT'S SAD. YOU SPEND ALL THAT MONEY. AND YOU HAVE ALL THOSE ISSUES. IT'S SUPPOSE TO BE FUN. NOT FRUSTRATING. THOR HAS ALL THESE BEAUTIFUL FLOORS PLANS. BUT THE QUALITY IS NOT THERE. I REALLY WANT ONE BUT IS IT WORTH IT. ☹️🤔 SHAME ON YOU THOR. MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO THE PEOPLE WITH ALL THESE PROBLEMS.
Their coaches are junk, have a thor Omni SV34 and have had nothing but problems. The shower drain was busted from the factory and it was a bear to fix. The massive slide out is junk, and have had it in 4 times, and am taking back in again this week. The power shade above the cab, has now quit working, and we are on our 3rd frig, and cannot tell us why they keep going out. Will NEVER buy another Thor coach.
Bless you man just reinforces why I wouldn’t buy a Thor. If the high end models like your coach have that many problems just imagine the quality control on the lower end coaches
No QC at all....
@@nupagadii5834 I will thinking the same thing. No QC... I'm not buy a Thor...
Oh c'mon... it's not just Thor!!!! It's all of them.
Dude, the rv thing just looks overwhelming for me. I want to go have fun, not trouble shoot and stress on my vacation. But thank you for taking this time, you people are amazing that do this real review stuff. I hope you get sorted and get back out there.
Thank you. I believe it takes around 1 year to work out the bugs and get to really know your rig. We have had a really good time with out outings. This summer we will be taking some long trips.
Everyone planning to buy a Thor product needs to send you a big thank you for 7:52 of this video, where you open the bed and expose the rats nest of wires. It all I needed to see, great review. I wonder if Thor has ever looked into how some boat manufacturers rout and label their wiring and piping?
Yeah all of those wires just show you how Professional Thor RV Company is. Someone just didn't care for Quality and there sure wasn't someone checking behind that person in Quality Control .
Well. I just took Thor off my short list. Thank you for taking the time to make this video
I'm with you, we were looking at Thor... NO Going to happen....
after seeing your video I will not buy an RV now I was interested in buying one but the money you spend for them and then I'm looking at the problems that you are having I'm not going to waste my time thanks for your video
We had some of these same issues, but my husband was able to fix them. We did have to have the break switch changed out. The brake lights were staying on as we drove. We did not have the luxury of staying at the dealer for a night or two as we traveled from NC to Louisiana over a three day weekend to pick up our unit. The dealer insisted even though they had our deposit and our financing done, that we pick it up before the end of the month which was only a few days away so we had to do the pickup quickly. The sink in the back is a bit difficult to use, as it sits under the upper mirrored cabinet, and when brushing your teeth, it is challenging. The shower also drains into the black water tank in the back so that is a challenge to not fill up that tank. Also the bathroom space around the commode is not very big, so consider that when looking at this particular unit. I think I would prefer to have the one bathroom only and have a little more space in it. This unit does not have a washer dryer hookup space either, that we have found. I don't know where it would actually go because there is no space for a unit. The pipes under the bed were not glued, and when we put water into the holding tank, it leaked into the outside compartment and all of our Christmas gifts got wet. No biggie, more annoying than anything else. What worried my husband is that all the wiring that is also under the bed. I found the tank leak when I found water on my bedroom floor coming from under the bed. We understand that whenever you buy something new there are always little things to fix, but some of these things could result in major damage. Because we had known about some of the problems, my husband checked for them right away and fixed them. The wires hanging under the coach had to be tied up and the black water expel from the back bathroom had to be fixed by adding a swivel to the outlet, and a hole cut in the bin. that was never done. Our moon slide is going to have to have more screws put in it so it slides properly. We have not even attempted to use the TV's yet. Our pump in the back is vibrating against something and we will fix that. My floor has some staining and I am told that is from the installation and that having them change the floor could result in an even bigger disaster. So I just put some rugs down. We also had to put all new screws in the trim around the slides, as it was falling off, and we didn't want to loose a piece while on the road. We will fix things as we find them. I am still happy with my coach, as it is a comfortable ride and driver. It fits our budget at the moment. Since we are not on the road full time, or even in a retired state yet, we will just enjoy what we have, and fix things as needed. I don't see this as a big negative for the coach, as much as I do for the company. They really have an issue with either the cheap things they install, or they have an issue with the employees they hire not putting the effort into the pride of their work. Management also needs to think about who they have in key positions because if they can't control what their workers are doing, or just don't care, they will not be around very long. And I just heard that Thor has acquired another big name manufacturer in the RV industry. Hang in there Thor owners.
This was very helpful. I’m researching now to purchase my first RV and no expert ever mentioned plan to stay at the dealership and camp so you use things and if they break you’re still there. That’s great advice.
You are welcome. Good luck.
Welcome to the Magnitude family! I have an XG32. If you haven’t gone over to the Thor forums, I highly suggest it. You will see some of the major issues we’ve all been having, the biggest one is the front cap separation. Please look it up and get on it now before it becomes something bigger. Thanks for the video. With all the problems, we still love ours after almost two years in it.
We do love it too. Sorry about the late response.
Wow, Lots of problem for a new RV. Good luck..
Beautiful RV. Thank you for sharing your ordeals! Water damage is like cancer to anything that isn't plastic or stainless steel. Hopefully your leak wasn't too bad.
We've noticed several of these units with very low miles on the market now. Thanks for your review!
Your patience is remarkable. I would be so mad with all those problems
Thanks. Overall not as bad as I have seen with some.
Thanks for the review! It is no longer on my potential list. Hope once you get the issues sorted it provides you many years of service.
Wow! The unit you have has been my first choice. Very surprised on the quality issues. Likewise the response to warranty issues. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Thanks for taking the time to document your experience. I am looking to buy a Super C motor home and this Thor was one of the choices. Your items of concern are areas I would not have thought of in looking over the unit.
Good and Honest REVIEW. THANK YOU!
Destin FL, best beaches
To hell with that, I’d be demanding a new rig or a full refund … at least in CA where we have strong lemon laws. That wiring under the bed looks like a disaster waiting to happen
Yeah right. Good luck living in California
@@giorgiobucci1737 huh?
Thanks for telling the truth
Appreciate it, these are serious issues that can inconvenience a trip. Thank you very much. I really wanted to buy a Thor, now I don't know what to do. Thanks again
Wow, I'm glad I seen this, we bought a 2022 gas MH and we were thinking about getting a DP and the salesman was trying to sale us this same one, hmmm, now I know that most will have issues, but I hope they all got work out for you.
You're actually pretty lucky compared to all the issues we have had on our 2022 Thor hurricane 29 m purchased on April 12th 2022
Just curious, what issues are you having?
@@CatFoodDraino thank you for asking, our first local camping trip just to check it out and make sure everything's working was terrible. Our model has this macerator type pump installed in the wet Bay that nobody knew at the dealership what it was for we finally called Thor and they said it was to circulate the black tank water from the bottom to the top of the tank, still don't know what that's for but the worst part about it is where the pump is it's leaking and during our camping trip we had to smell black water leaking. And then we leave and try to clean up that mess up and hook up the hose to the black water flush and it won't take water the hose just expands. Also my wife notices this weird imperfection in the windshield.
So now we have our first real camping trip scheduled for later on this coming week and our RV is sitting at the dealer for the last 14 days telling us they're waiting on Thor to authorize them to fix it
@@kevinmcintosh9990 that’s a bummer. I hope you get it all worked out. When I bought my thor 2020 palazzo, we took it out every weekend and found every single squeak, squawk, leak, etc etc. we made sure we went out in heavy rains to find leaks. Glad we did.
I think whenever anyone buys a MH or camper, take it out as much as you can during warranty. If you can’t get in for service, just make the claim with Thor so it’s dated.
Thor was pretty darn good to us on repairs. I still find myself fixing things here and there, but the bones seem pretty good.
@@CatFoodDraino good advice thank you, we plan on using it quite a few times this season.
If we ever get it back😡
Wow, the quality control is awful. No TPMS system? Crazy. I was very interested in this model, not now. Thank you very much for your detailed review!
I'm glad you are taking the time to post the good and the bad. It's only too bad more owners and reviewers on RUclips don't do the same. We are considering the XG32, as well as the Dynamax Isata 5 30 FW and the Renegade Veracruz. Where there any other units you considered vs. the RS 36? Keep up the good work and good luck!
What did you end up with, Jim?
i can't thank you enough , i am considering to buy this model within two weeks .
This is a problem with these manufacturers - they're in hurry to put out, and they end up doing shoddy work. Especially, if your rig cost ~200K or more. The government should put in a law about warranty work for RVs that you can get it serviced by any RV dealer. Thanks for being honest with all the issues you found - I would not have been a happy camper!
For blown tire cause, get your rig loaded and check the scale weights per axle and per corner if possible. You may be overloaded and need a full steel tire now, like Duravis etc.
Unbelievable , Thanks for posting this, I was just at a dealer in Melbourne Fl looking at one and I was sure it would be my choice to replace our 40 ft Class A. I will no longer be considering a Thor ,
Holy Smokes. I hope you get all these problems fixed.
A majority of RV mechanic’s will tell you Thor rigs are not built to last. Road vibration and twisting of the frame cause many issues loosening staples, screws, bolts, plumbing and wire connections. They are under allot of pressure to work too fast. Screws in wood without glue stripped by screw guns etc. Not using stainless screws for outside trims and fixtures. I have seen it all. Many RV manufacturers have a hard time getting good employees because pay is poor. In most cases Welfare pays more to sit home. The higher quality higher cost manufacturers have waiting periods of up to two years before delivery. Good luck to all that make that tough decision to purchase an RV. Be prepared to understand that this endeavor will require tons of patience for all the maintenance required to enjoy your RV.
There is no quality control in the production of RVs. They have found it's cheaper to just keep running them out the door and deal with the problems later. Their position is 1/3 of the problems get repaired at the dealership under warranty, 1/3 the owner repairs, and the other 1/3 never get fixed. Winning hand for them.
I am so grateful you made this video. I was about to get a Magnitude, but wil not proceed forward with a purchase. i find the issues you have to be unnecessary and careless on the manufacturers end. All the misinformation that was expressed to you, like the servicing of your issues, is also a red flag for me. I hope you still enjoy rv'ing.....because all of those issues would impact my experience.
Wow, eye-opening. Thanks very much. That is a LOT of money for what you really get, IMO.
Absolutely ridiculous and no excuses for that many problems I would have probably lost my mind at the dealer
Thats very disappointing. I really like these units. You'd think with the amount of plumbing problems they'd fire the people doing the plumbing installs. They are off my list of possibilities to buy.
Thank you very much! It was very helpful!
Oof brand new one of these is well over 300-400k canadian, thanks for the honest review. Lots of headaches for the money it seems.
Convinced me not to buy one. Appears the factory quality control is not good. Thanks.
Your problems are indicative of the quality RV manufacturers try to hoist on unsuspecting buyers. Dealers shouldn't have to put up with the crap manufacturers ship to them either. They get all the blame for selling such crappy RVs when the fault is with companies like Thor. Just glad most of your problems are solved. I'd also watch for problems down the road due to the floor having been flooded. Rot may be in your future. Hoping for the best for you & the rig.
Most of these issues are a result of poor workmanship by the mfg. Ridiculous that this is allowed by these companies. Obviously there are no REAL quality checks of each unit before it leaves the factory.
My wife and myself just bought one. Unfortunately a lot of the same problems. Still waiting on fresh tank. 3 solar panels don’t work, leaking fuel, the list of problems is very long.
Great video. That totally sucks, but for all you Thor haters, that's basically been my experience with my last several RV's, of various brands. I think that is probably the case with most RV brands, given there's only a handful of major RV manufacturers that produced RV's under various brands.
Not a Thor hater but it's hard to ignore the audit control issues they have with all their brands... Even Airstream products have dipped in quality...
Thor had consistently been known for our quality for years... How did s company with poor quality become the biggest giant #1 RV producer..... ????
They were probably all owned by Thor. Thor is the world's largest RV manufacturer with many top name branded RV in the whole spectrum of class A through B+ and towed trailers. Used to be Tiffin, Jayco, Entegra, Dutchman, Keystone and Airstream were the best American RVs made--- before Thor bought them out and put quantity not quality as their business model to prop up their stock price.
Excellent review- thank you
Not surprising that your having so many problems. I have a mechanical background and it's the only thing that helped with all the problems we had . Still had to go to the dealer for slides to be fixed. Very disappointing ! 2015 Winnebago Adventurer ...we did get it all repaired, and now keep an eye on everything.
Wow.. Winnebago is considered one of the standards in RV quality..
I myself decided to purchased used.. 2006 Holiday Rambler admiral 33pbd.. let me tell you.. This RV is built better than newer high end RVs...
My buddy owns a 2005 Winnebago adventurer and the quality is to notch on that RV as well..
Seems that after 2008 RV manufacturing took a dump...
Winnebago and their dealers have lost their way. Almost makes you want to build your own since you'll need those skills anyway if you buy from others now. Or you overpay for Gretch, Prevost, etc. In the words of Bender, We're boned.
What about finding a MOBILE RV technician for an estimate and subsequent repairs?
I am so glad to here they are still building very hi quality 💩💩💩 .I had bought a brand new Thor Quantum 32 ft that spent more time at the factory .I purchased this coach for a cross country trip that was totaly ruined because of all the trouble we had .BUYER DO YOUR HOME WORK READ THE REVIEWS .THEY WILL NEVER STOP BUILDING THESE COACHES SO FAST THAT EMPLOYEES HAVE NO CHOICE BUT JUST SLAMMING THEM TOGETHER . SHAME ON THE PRESIDENT OF THIS COMPANY WHO JUST WANTS TO FILL HIS POCKETS WITH CASH.
Unbelievable they would put out junk like that for all that momey
It's not Just Thor. For the most part ALL the manufactures are cranking out very expensive junk.
Wow, for sure. I have to ask, do you think these are normal issues or can they be tied back to what we hear all over in the industry, with regard to poor manufacturing issues due to Covid and personnel issues slash shortages?
HI, I was told by the sales agent that all the RVs are coming in with numerous issues. Prior to this video...there were other issues the dealership took care of. In the end...for myself I expected this and am very grateful nothing big was wrong. For example, slide issues...cab pulling away from body, etc. I am now going through the process with Thor to get it fixed. I will do a video after my dealings with them is over. Thanks!
I have a 2014 solitude that’s never been winterized, in 2021 it got down to 9 degrees for two days in a row with no electricity and my rig never busted a pipe. I want a new rig and this type you have is something I’m i retested in but this video scares me.
I have a 2021 Thor Omni and I love the power of the diesel the ease of running everything. But with that being said, DO NOT BUY FROM CAMPING WORLD!!!! I've had some of these same issues and after 4 months I was able to get it in to get fixed. I made numerous calls to Thor to complain about the dealership not honoring the warranties and Thor took care of that. It's also hard to find Ford dealerships to honor the warranties on the chassis so research your area before you buy. Good luck
@@homepage714 you are correct about camping world, the internet is full of stories just like yours.
Wow I saw that rats nest of wiring and then when you talked about the whole floor being flooded I think I would sell that piece of shit because you’re just gonna have more and more problems
Why didn’t your inspector catch the water leaks?
There's a reason all the RV manufacturers are located in Indiana. Very low on manufacturing standards there
Thor really should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of worrying about that new chassis, they should’ve focused on getting these things built to quality. This is completely why I passed on the Magnitude. It’s a shame because they are a gorgeous rig but what’s the point if it’s lipstick on a pig. Shame on them.
Question. Who services the Ford engine? Is it a ford dealership? Thanks for making this review.
I have taken it to Ford Service. You just have to check to make sure they work RVs. I would start at www.fordpro.com/en-us/dealer-locate and select Commercial services to see what comes up.
That's just them being completely incompetent. That's them damaging your investment. I'd go after them.
I guess I won’t be getting this model😢
Such a shame to see such poor quality control on a unit that exceeds $250K. I absolutely love the Super C on the F550/F600 platform, but that workmanship is reprehensible!
I just stumbled across this video. Can you fill up at the high flow diesel pumps? I have a 21 Magnitude 34 SVR and the fuel hoses are so kinked that I can't fill from them as the pump kicks off. Thor and Ford each blamed the other and neither would fix it.
HI Robert. so…I have not issues with my back tank. But…my front tank always shows 1/8 empty even through it is full of gas. Unsure why. I did not ask Ford to check when I had it in the shop last and I am out of warranty. This is the only strange thing I see in my unit.
@@DidWe Thanks for the response. Sorry to hear about your issues with the fuel gauge. In my case I cannot take advantage of the TSD fuel savings as I can't use those pumps.
@@robertroth287 gotcha. I tried once..but was not able to get through the menus. But, I am able to fill up in truck lanes. We are doing a Magnitude / Omni meetup in central FL on Veterans Day weekend 2023 if you want to come and talk to other owners (www.eventbrite.com/e/thor-magnitude-omni-meetup-camp-margaritaville-in-auburndale-florida-tickets-596203951067) talks about it.
@@DidWe Interesting. Wasn't aware of it but it isn't that far from me. Will look into it. Thank you!
Poor quality for that much money Thor get it together 😜
Production RVs are just a royal pain. The manufacturers just pump them out and I don’t think they give two shits if anything even works, just as long as it works when you buy it.
Wow...this was a real lemon!
Your tank sensors aren’t backwards. I thought the same thing in my RS36. If you pull the bottom board out from under your bathroom sink you’ll see and unfortunately realize your shower drain is run the the black tank. You’ll fill the black tank incredibly fast taking showers.
HI Justin. I was told that too. I do not know for sure as I have not checked yet. But, we installed a washer / dryer. As we tested it I saw the black sensor state the tank was getting full. So, as a test, I took a big tub and dumped the gray water into the tub. It was washer / dryer water I could tell. When I looked at the sensor in the rig, the black status dropped down to 0 after I pulled the gray lever. So, this let me to believe the sensors are reversed. I will do more testing.
@@DidWe I just simply emptied both tanks, ran the shower only. Opened each valve independently and the black tank was the only one that had water in it. I was shocked to see it was plumbed that way.
Does Seem strange. Do you find it hurts things if you drycamp? We have only had hookups so far. So I am unsure how it might effect us.
@@DidWe definitely requires the need to take short camp showers when dry camping. However the issue is the tankless water heater doesn’t like that. The trick is to run the bathroom sink all the way hot so the tankless water heater doesn’t keep going on and off and cycling cold water. Then you can just turn the shower on and off as needed for the camp shower. Sink goes to gray and shower goes to black. Seems to help.
You poor man. you have just begun the slow uncomfortable slog with the Thor + dealership fingerpointing. You are in for a long unhappy ordeal that will definitely make you a one and done Thor product customer. A RV lifestyle channel called Liz Amazing (sorry I can't leave her link here because RUclips deletes all comments with active links). 2 weeks ago Liz regaled us with a Thor / Thor dealership ongoing nightmare with Sharon & Jeff, Thor Tuscony luxury RV that featured an initially responsive dealership and Thor cooperation to being totally ignored and still not corrected manufacturing and initial Pre-Delivery Inspection lies.
My condolences for what you are about to discover about Thor and it's dealerships.
This is the state of the RV industry. My advice is if you can DON"T buy one. Wait because the quality right now is worse than anytime in history. If you do BUY USED only. Or don't buy at all and hopefully crashing sales will force these greedy companies to put a little more time and effort into these overpriced things. For as much money as you paid for this to have such basic issues like not screwing in plumbing pipes is unacceptable. That mess under your bed is unbelievable.
Did you have an inspector to look over the RV before purchase? I’ve read this is something to do.
Sure did. Still missed items
Such a beautiful rig and so expensive why can’t they do better. These problems come with any & all no matter the price rv’s and it just boils down to being in a rush to build a unit in 3 days. This is sickening that Americans can’t build something better. How much more will we eventually buy from China so that we can’t get a working product.
You are a more patient person than me. I would say that your RV failed inspection big time. I was strongly considering buying a Thor but after hearing your experience and the jack leg way they repaired stuff and to top if it off you have to fund your own warranty. I would say big fail. I am a home builder and deal with plumbing. The entire plumbing system must be pressurized using AIR first. We check the pressure gauge after 24 hours for any loss of air pressure. This is SOP in the home building industry long before water ever enters the home. And that freezing issue you are having is not acceptable. 200k for this POS. No way.
Thor seems better at acquiring other RV manufacturers than building their own. This just confirms the bad reputation they have for their coarches.
Thanks please send me more information 😅
Guess we know Thor builds junk, no quality control. I'm actually in the market for a new super C, it won't be a Thor. Unfortunately most manufacturers are just as crappy as Thor.
The worst part is that Thor owns about a dozen other manufacturers
How much price
I just have to ask. Why did you take ownership of this lemon?!
I took Thor Industries of our list to consider years ago. Their quality has to be the worst in the industry.
This is a wake up. Maybe better to buy a used rv and let the first owner live with the problems.
Pre 2008 RVs are the sweet spot for quality.. I own a 2006 Holiday Rambler admiral 33pbd.. 8.1 vortec with Allison transmission.. double over drive and double grade brake control..
These things are quality.. the Monaco line up of Safari Monaco Holiday Rambler country coach beaver pre 2008 are quality units..
Buddy owns a 2005 Winnebago adventurer with the same Drivetrain as mine... That thing is built with high quality as well...
Brands like tiffin and newmar pre 2020 seem to be built very well too if you wanted a newer used RV...
Good luck
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Thank you for the video showing all the issues, did you use an RV inspector before driving off the dealer lot? If you did it does not seem like you got your monies worth….
HI. Yes…we had an RV Inspector. It cost almost $1k. These items were missed by the inspector. :)
@@DidWe Ouch, that hurts, I do hope that you get everything resolved to your satisfaction and enjoy your beautiful new rig
And only 200 k,what a shame
I wouldn't have taken position
We had many issues as well. It spent 7 months at the dealership ordering parts and fixing all the factory issues. This is a super helpful video. Thanks for sharing!!!
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Sheesh, Id never buy a THOR after seeing this. Im getting a Renegade or Dynamax.
I believe Thor acquired dynamax a couple of years ago
I think I’m just shocked especially to the unbelievable mess of wires that are under your bed in this unit. That would of been a deal breaker for me from the get go. That’s just poor workmanship straight in your face. The 2nd deal breaker which ok maybe you as a consumer would not know but surely on the walk through of your RV the tech most certainly did is any grey water going into the black tank. Seems very sketchy to me that wasn’t set up intentionally & it’s a deal breaker.
The fact is consumers are handing hundreds of thousands of dollars over for overpriced, overhyped pieces of poorly constructed RV’s & making the manufacturer’s rich & then youtuber’s show all the problems & they still purchase these overpriced poor construction pos & prices sore. So what’s the answer? Stop buying them. Stop blaming Covid or inflation cause the problem is the buyers not stepping back & demand quality for the money they are throwing away on this industry. If you don’t require better you get garbage.
Sorry for the rant but people really need to be buyer beware & just because a salesman says this or that without any fact check you are on the losing end. Ok rant really over.
Just about everything had a problem....jeez
WOW!!! 😲 THAT'S SAD. YOU SPEND ALL THAT MONEY. AND YOU HAVE ALL THOSE ISSUES. IT'S SUPPOSE TO BE FUN. NOT FRUSTRATING. THOR HAS ALL THESE BEAUTIFUL FLOORS PLANS. BUT THE QUALITY IS NOT THERE. I REALLY WANT ONE BUT IS IT WORTH IT. ☹️🤔 SHAME ON YOU THOR. MY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO THE PEOPLE WITH ALL THESE PROBLEMS.
That suck Thor should go better pdi🤦🏽
Thor quality. 💩
Their coaches are junk, have a thor Omni SV34 and have had nothing but problems. The shower drain was busted from the factory and it was a bear to fix. The massive slide out is junk, and have had it in 4 times, and am taking back in again this week. The power shade above the cab, has now quit working, and we are on our 3rd frig, and cannot tell us why they keep going out. Will NEVER buy another Thor coach.
Thor motor coaches are junk. After taking a tour of their manufacturing facility, I knew I would never buy a Thor product.
ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!!!!