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I'm gonna be building my first PC soon (upgrading from a Lenovo Legion with 2070 from a few years ago) so I'm probably gonna go with a 7700x, just cause I want something that can last me a couple years and stay upgradeable. Planning on building it with the new 7900 xtx graphics card if all the benchmarks look good. Since I don't mind waiting a few months to have the complete setup I'm just gonna try to get parts for it as they go on sale. Recently bought the 980 pro 2tb storage cause I saw the sale thanks to you. Please keep up the great vids
Hey just wanted to let you know that bios flashback isn't really a requirement for AMD motherboards because if you have access to any computer at all, even the library, you can download a bios onto a flash drive and then when you post just flash the bios. You don't technically even need a CPU to do it either. I just finished a build the other day with an Asrock B550m Steel legend that I got for 100 bucks on sale and went through the process myself and it's super easy. TLDR: you don't have to limit the motherboards you recommend to one's that have a bios flashback button.
I like 5800X3D but im going with 13600K DDR4, platform cost 70€ more, but has better RAM OC potential, later upgrade possibility and perform much better in competitive 1080p. Thats important for me. AM4 has an insane platform cost.
Your guild leader is lucky to have you as a member. Great vid! While I was highly considering starting a 5800X3D build from scratch, considering my local Micro Center is throwing in DDR5 memory for free with a 7700X and $50 off a compatible motherboard, it seems silly not to take advantage of that offer.
I got the same deal + B650 aorus elite ax which came down to 180. Amazing board and overkill vrm heatsinks, other than sad audio chip, I'm thoroughly impressed by it
Found your channel 3 days ago and at that time (which feels like years ago😅) I didn’t know SSD from HDD. 3 days later I feel like I’m confident enough to build my first PC. Started ordering the components. Thanks👍
Same here lol, i didnt even knew what is nvme ssd, what is aio cooler. Now i am trying to select pc parts by following his video and building one for myself under 2410$, i am from india. Thanks!
Great video, Jason! In the 4K world, I'm gonna do like Ambrosius. Relax and watch you guys doing all the work. I'm just started to use a 1440p monitor. 4K is a distant event on my horizon. 😉
I built this exact system 4 months ago after 2 months of research much of it from this channel. I went with the Ryzen 5800X3D, 32 gigs (4x 8GB) of Vengence Ram and the Asus ROG Strix B550-F Gaming WiFi II board, and the Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Gaming OC 12G Graphics Card. (Note on my GPU card, At the time I purchased it was under $800 today it's $1380 on Amazon) I did use 1 SAMSUNG 980 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe for the C Drive and a Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 1TB NVMe M.2 in 2 TB for my secondary (This board has 2 M.2 slots slots "ONLY 1" is 4.0) and I set up x2 WD Black 2 TB HD in a Raid as my system backup. I added a few things not here but I paid about $2,400 (with my bells and whistles) in total. I did buy everything from Amazon and used the $200 off option and got the Amazon Credit Card in the process. (Note: Paid it off already as I had cash). Issues: not mentioned, I had to buy a PCIe x1 to 19 Pin USB 3.0 Header for a second header because this board only has one. If you get this system buy one when you order it was $24 and you will thank me later. Also, there is a loss of 5&6 SATA ports when using the second PCI-E slot. (ROG dropped the ball here) The loss of 2 of the 6 played no issue at all in my build but is worth noting.
It’s not the ideal CPU for everyone. It’s not that great with production work, for instance, and honestly not all games will take advantage of that extra L3 cache. As a gaming CPU though, it can’t be beat for price to performance to efficiency.
5800X3D is pretty amazing. Has been in and out of stock since the price went to $329 (Newegg had it this morning but it just sold out again). Until DDR5 RAM comes down it just makes too much sense. But can't go wrong with 13600K, Ryzen 7700X either.
Great video and a very nice build, especially with Mr Bear playing supervisor. It feels like the 5800X3D might be "good enough for gaming" for a long while; there could be a lot of future GPUs matching perfectly well with AM4 platforms.
AM4 still has a ton of mileage left. Don't see any reason to buy AM5 - whole new mobo, ram and cpu for what, a 20% increase in performance if that from AM4?
This was my exact comparison and build options 2 weeks ago moving up from a 4790K - I was comparing the 5800X3D vs 13600K vs 7700X and landed on the 5800X3D as well. Thanks for the validation!!! Now just waiting on the GPU options to upgrade my GTX970 as well!
For you, 3060ti, 3070 are good, but the best would be RX 6700 XT 12GB. Its basically a 3070 with 12GB and perfect performance for 1080p for FPS games. but for story games like Elden ring or CP2077, where you don't need more than 60FPS, it can do 4K too. I went from 5600x and 6700 XT 12GB to 5800X3D and 6800XT 16GB. Both are good
5800X3D has been out of stock since the price dropped to 329. Newegg emailed me yesterday saying they were in stock. Within hours they were out of stock again. But I got my order in. Black Friday may get them offered at 299. Maybe. Like your videos. Thanks
After watching some of your videos I felt it was time to build my own pc and I'm so happy because this is almost the same build I've chosen! Looks like all the studying paid off! Thank you Jason for your thorough explanation and passion for this work!
During the CPU choice I think you forgot to mention the targetted workload (wow) is very cache reliant and that happens to be the special trait of the 5800x3d. All by all a very good choice, but deserves a bit more explanation. Personally I would have waited for zen 4 x3d skews to launch. But I get it, new expansion launching and all :)Have fun gaming!
@@Altyno296 some games will run better on 5800x3d, some will run better on the 13600k... They're both end of platform so you won't be able to get an upgrade to your machine later down the line. The 5800x3d will probably end up being cheaper, and has more cache, but the 13600k has an advantage in multi threading. If there isn't some specific game you like, I don't think there is a wrong choice here.
My system is the 5800X3D with a 6700XT it just devours WoW at 1080p pining the needle at 140 FPS in all but the heaviest raiding situations. In all my games this setup just tears it up, the extra cache really smoothes out those little hitches at higher FPS.
I built my new PC a few months back with 5800X3D, as faster in games than new AMD processors. Paired it with a 6900XT. So can't wait to see his suggestions.
Pretty much looks like the budget build of what I was planning to build so good to know I wasn't wrong on selections. Though I do have to ask, is there a way for you to possibly give/start providing streaming + gaming benchmarks? Streaming as far as I've experienced has caused a good bit of performance loss especially when paired with vtubing or just extra interactive software and would love to be able to possibly compensate for that loss with more details. Though maybe it's just because I'm using an older gpu and it's not that big of a concern on 30/40 series cards.
I have a 5800X and a ROG Strix 3080 12gb and I benchmarked 98 games at 4k native on max settings, no raytracing. 109fps average across all 98 games. High spec games run around 60fps on max settings.
Love the build Jason! Please, a longer build montage next time! (5 mins or so). After building my PC last year, I am going to have to miss the fun for several more years so watching you is great! It's why I love channels like JayzTwoCents because you can see them mucking about getting the build together. Its soooo satistying when it does its first POST! Share that satisfaction please! :))))
I was building 3 machines for Christmas, to specs requested. The 5800x3d is extremely under rated. 5950x with a 3080 under a 24 hour test load started dropping fps. The 5800x3d with a 6800 never dropped. It still beat the 3rd with an intell build that was rated higher on user benchmark.
I bought the x3D chip in May to upgrade from my 5600x. I looked at it as a last hurrah for the platform. Hype drove my upgrade and I did regret it soon after, because my rig was great and $450 is $450. But seeing how well it's holding its own, I no longer regret it. I only play iRacing. 5800x3D, 3080, 32GB 3600 CL16, Giga B550 based on PC Builder's recommendation. I should be set for years to come. Screw the 4000 series cards!
Really informative video, great work! I would be really interested in your low/mid/high cost builds for the new RX 7900 XTX coming out very soon. That's the build I'm holding off for so I'd like to see it! Thanks for the video Jason :)
I'd love to see a comparison between 5900X and 5800X3D in 1440p gaming, they're around the same price... Maybe 5900X being a tad cheaper. It's really a great time to build an AM4 system right now if you don't want to overspend!
@@PCBuilderChannel okay thanks for the quick reply! I got the 5900X for like 270 dollars 2nd hand and that was a banging deal. I would have to pay at least another $100 to go up to a 5800X3D so I don't think the performance upgrade is worth the price. Maybe it will get cheaper. I have RX6800 currently btw.
Hello! Watching your energy consumption skyrocket so high I was wondering if it would be fun for you to create: "The Best 1440k pc for the least energy (watts) consumption!" Something that could withstand 1440k gaming in 5 years with builds of today but with as low rgb, the lowest cpu and graphics consumption :)) Just for fun :3
Great stuff. I love the build. I am going to attempt to build my first gaming pc based on this system. The type of gaming I do most of the time is racing simulators. I would love to see how this system handles Assetto Corsa Compitizione in 4K.
locally, the x3d for me is still easily $420, i went for AM5 instead, saw a deal for the x670e aorus master for 45% off effectively (meanwhile Z790 is almost ~$700+, if not i might have been swayed to get the 13600kf instead. Got the best kit of ddr5 from OEM too, now waiting on the x3d CPUs in Q1.
4090 is about the first card i would consider for 4k gaming, those 4k benchmarks of the 3080 just are not good enough. you can get ddr5 5600 cl36 32 GB kits for 150, would certainly recommend that as a min on any build. 13700k is still what i would recommend, but 7600x, 7700x, 13600k are all perfectly fine aswell. wouldn't go with 5800x3d unless you can an amazing price
Found this video late, but I already had AM4 and last year I upgraded my CPU to the 5800X3D and paired it with the 6700XT. It's been a beast of a combo and I mainly game and do 3D modeling.
Especially if the main game is WoW. It plays 60fps on high settings 1080p on a 1660 (not even super, which is what my downstairs machine is using) + Ryzen 2600. You don't need to buy even close bleeding edge for WoW.
Great video. Im almost positive you can get the build to under $1500 if you pick up a used 3080 and a 5800X for $199 from Microcenter. I know the X3D is a bunch faster, but for almost 2x the price? I don't know if thats worth it. If you are playing at 4k, I don't really see the standard 5800X being too big of a bottleneck. If it is, then the 13600k at $280 is the better deal.
@@PCBuilderChannel Absolutely a good choice 👌. The 13600k is the strongest i5 CPU ever made. The only downside I guess is the limited upgrade path. Your only real viable upgrade is moving up to a 13700k. The best platform right now that has any kind of future is AM5. If I were building out a new platform from scratch, it would have to be an AM5 based build, probably with a 7600X or 7700X, depending on the Black Friday prices. Hey Jason, I know this is a lot to ask, because you already make so many good and informative videos, but right now I believe there is an opportunity to build a $600-$750 pc with used parts that has unparalleled performance and value. Do you think you might be able to make a video centered on just Ebay used parts that everyone has access to? Newegg and Amazon + Amazon warehouse and Antonline can also be included for super good deals on new parts, but CPU and GPU should be bought on eBay so most people can deal hunt and succeed in putting together a great value for money pc with used parts included in the build. For example, 2060 super on ebay is $200, 2070 $225 and 2070 Super $275ish. AMD is even better. 5700XT $160-$170. The 5600x and 5600 are almost $100 new, so used can be under $100. Its insane. I just don't remember there being a better time in many years to build a 1440p 165hz capable computer for AAA gaming for this little money. You could get so much even with a $500 budget for 1080p, and still do high frame rate 1440p with DLSS enabled. I'm super impressed by the performance of the newest releases in hardware, but I think the real winners are going to be the people that spend as little as possible and still get an RTX + DLSS graphics card and a very modern, high frame rate capable machine for very little money, like $500-$750, and can still get good settings and frame rates and features with graphics cards that were very strong in 2019 like the 2060 Super/2070 super/2080 and say a 5600 or 5600x/5700x depending on what you decide your ultimate budgets will be.
In Croatia everything is more expensive than in USA. For example 5800X3D costs 460€=475$(US). And if I have to pay more I rather go with AM5 platform, and at moment cheap GPU for 1080p 60-75Hz gameplay in sandblock games, like Scum(still early access game 0.75, soon 0.8 update).
Same here in India, the pc builds costing 1000 dollars costs usually 1500 dollars to 2000 dollars and cheaper brands doesn't good quality products, not at all reliable
Yes always make the best decision for your regional pricing! 13600K, 7600X/7700X are also very good high end gaming choices! If only doing 1080p 75Hz, just get a Ryzen 5600 or i3 12100F and invest all your money in the GPU and/or monitor upgrade!
As someone who has an expensive x570 board (ASUS Dark Hero) and went from the 5800X to the 5800X3D, you don't need to overpay on the board because you can't overclock the 5800X3D, I've tried. If overclocking is your goal, the rule is you should get an enthusiast board that has better components to achive that but you can't overclock the 5800X3D. For gaming, the 5800X3D performs at stock better than the 5800X with PBO2. Now I don't know if my 64GB (16x4) Dominator 3600 CL18 can run at 4000 CL18 with FCLK set at 2000 because of the board, and I'd say probably not and you could say that I shouldn't get any better performance but I like the coolness factor. Really, I didn't want an X570 board with a fan which the Dark Hero does not have. I'd say shift your budget to a 5800X3D, save money with a good B550 or cheap X570 that is still good and decent RAM.
Can oc my 5800x at 5,225 ghz all core at 89°C.... My question is... Is it better to take an 5900x with all core 5,3 ghz and 12 cores for unreal engine 5..?
@@Querilio Depends on your GPU. Hardware Canucks (sp?) said a 3070 Ti at 1440p wouldn't really benefit. Well, I still have screenshots of HZD going from 112fps to 138fps. SotTR, 10-ish better but still a plus. I'm sure there are some that won't but I doubt the 5800X3D would perform worse. Really, look at some of the 7950X reviews that compare to the 5800X3D and they are neck and neck. Problem is that most benchmarks large RUclipsrs do is 3090 Ti/4090 at 1080p. That is just unrealistic. With that card, you either want 4K or super smooth, high refresh 1440p. Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed do some 1440p benchmarking. I actually was going to get the 5950X over the 5900X but many benchmarks put the 5800X3D above both. I just plan on gaming so 5800X3D is best for me. I also did a little retro gaming and the best way to make a 500MHz processor run like a 100MHz, was to disable the cache. The 5800X3D adds more cache which definitely will help in gaming. Cool overclocking. Its something I just don't do anymore, a lot of work, never really got results that mattered much, though there were some awesome ones. With how CPUs now just run as fast as possible w/o exceeding a thermal limit, I'll invest in better cooling and a nice mobo that will eventually sell higher than others used. Highend ASUS boards seem to do the best. Also, the highest end CPU for a socket does well too. My Phenom II X6 1100T is still worth a good bit, especially buying it used. I never OC'd it but I unlocked the turbo to let all six cores run at 3.7GHz. Otherwise, it would only turbo to 3.7 for up to a max of 3. When it did that, it would run all cores at 3.4GHz. Again, the best cooling kept that stable for a few years with the fastest DDR3 ram (1333 @ 6-6-6-18).
Wow Player here as well. I started in The Burning Crusade. But unfortunately i have only ever had laptops to play on. Let me dream about such PC 😂. Thanks for the videos
Your videos have been invaluable to me….did my first custom build thanks to your guides and am currently putting together a 4k gaming build for my girlfriend…keep up the great work buddy! 😎
I ended up picking up a 5800x3d for $330 new on ebay and then the Gigabyte AORUS Elite motherboard you recommended for $150 from Newegg, for a total of $480 before taxes as I already have ddr4 ram. Whereas a 13600k build would've costed me about $20+ more from the motherboards I could find that were actually in stock. Either way, it might not be much but $20 saved is $20 saved.
I was expecting you to prod the cat like usual but he/she isn't there 🤣. EDIT: the cat appeared 🤣 just in time to get some hair in the new build and oversee you did it right 😄.
Hi Jason, great video. I’m currently building an itx mini. I play a good amount of games (WoW included) and am curious if you would go with 2x8gb 2x16gb of ram? I don’t plan on over clocking at all and I also have a 3080ti gpu and mostly play at 4k? Thanks.
Great build and most likely something I will go with after having watched your vids! What made you go with the 3080 instead of an 6800 XT or 6900 XT? Can't seem to decide on GPUs.. :/
Honestly just that I had one! If I was buying new I'd go 6900XT or 6800Xt especially since they are on sale right now. See our Black Friday Deals video we just posted (like an hour ago) (:
Oh your friend's old PC brought back memories. I was still running an AM3 rig until a couple of years ago when it died. I have gone from AM3 to AM5 lol.
I have a question to PC builder My built spec: - Ryzen 7 5800x3d - PNY RTX 4090 - 32GB ddr4 3600Mhz - B550 MSI Pro WiFi - 3TB m.2 ssd + 5 TB HDD My question is, does 5800x3d cause a bottleneck to the RTX 4090 ?
Thanks for this I really hope when the next gen GPU's hit the market you'll do an all AMD with an X3D and XTX. Enjoy your channel, vids keep up the great work.
Dragonflight is the reason why I am upgrading my wifes machine. We got her a 13600K and an Asus Z690-F... I already prepped a USB Stick, with the new bios on it for her while we wait for the parts to ship and since I couldn't sleep tonight I'm sitting here listening to you and reading the Z690-F Motherboard manual. I downloaded online As I haven't built a computer since "Koi" this Hand me down PC we built her in 2014 that I am watching you on.
This is just the right information that I need. My old desktop is still rocking a 3rd generation i5 and I've been avoiding doing any raiding until I can upgrade.
hello！watching from Japan. The easy-to-understand explanations are very helpful. I can't speak English well yet, but I'm looking forward to watching this channel!
I went MSI B550 Unify board/5600X3D. It has the X3D auto curve Kombo Strike button in the BIOS for a non multiplier de facto X3D OC and great RAM OC capability. I run B-Die RAM at 4000 MHz with tight primary and sub timings. The board does that with a BIOS button up to 5500MHz stable. $279 pro OC board, $75 Microcenter closeout, insane.
For my 5800x3d build I ended up getting a kingston fury renegade 1tb m2 drive, what do you think of it? I do a lot of reading / writing large files and snagged it for $99 with tax and shipping!
Hey hey look at that, nice to see an AK620 shoutout. It's such a good cooler man, crazy how no matter what game I run, it's almost always cool air exhausted out the back. Such a little beast of a cooler.
Late reaction, but I too use the 5800X3D, and like you, I play world of warcraft, and honestly, ever since I am using it, the loading times are insanely fast, even when booting the game up for the first time. First time logging in, takes maybe 9 seconds at most. Later loadingscreens take maybe half of that time or even less, so I am really happy with it. For motherboard, I decided to go with an Asus Prime X570-P because it was only 20 euros more expensive than one of the B550 motherboards where I live. GPU I put in a RTX 3090Ti , so Im definetly good for atleast as long as my old pc again ( like five years, perhaps more). Im honestly really glad this CPU came out as it allowed me to do 4k gaming while keeping the prices a bit lower, instead of going with DDR5 memory. So all in all I really like this video!
Will you make detailed guide of what to do after you build pc? Also, how needed is Intel ME?(i have seen that newest Asus motherboard bios require to install Intel ME) Thank you for all videos, you are definitely one of the best channels for people who just got themselves into PC building world!
Yes this continues to be on the long list of how to videos. We got waylaid by all the product launches. I did go over this briefly in a Q&A video but I can't remember which one. I don't mess with Intel ME in the bios here's more on it though: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine
Moving from 5900X to 5800X3D in order to be ready for any 4090 I can get my hands on or 7900XTX once they release. Purely for gaming, so many good things about this CPU. Got lucky in latest Newegg restock Thursday.
Ryzen 7 5800x3D RTX3070 on a B450 board air cooled Deep Cool at 60c to 70c 3200hz ram 16 gigs and it rocks with any game I throw at it. Playing in 2K is great! This is a great budget build for those that want performance without taking a loan out on their home.
i thought intel preferred faster ram speed. whats the best thing to tune my b die ram ddr4 of course? 1080p high fps 240+ for 13900k 3090ti for playing games like cod basically AAA titles. ive tuned my ram to 4000 c16 manually. so ive set about 6-8 timings manually. also which do you recommend to tune down? ie trfc tfaw etc., oh and before you say a 3090ti at 1080p cod is 99% usage on low settings in cod mw2. so yes even a 3090ti is bottlenecked in 1080p. another crazy thing to jason is with the newest update they put out i lost 70+ fps. its almost as if they are doing it on purpose to sell the new gpu's. gameplay itself seems to hold you back in matches as well. kinda like they did when the ps4 pro came out.
Hi Jason, 👋 I am sharing my Ryzen upgrade story here : After weeks of thinking and budget calculations and loads of techuber videos including yours, I finally made up my mind and instead of jumping to new DDR5 platform I upgraded my 5 year old B350 mobo with a Ryzen 5700X replacing the old Ryzen 1600. For my RTX 3060 ti a 13600k or 7700X or 5800x3d won't be giving too much fps compared to a 5700X. Getting a good 60fps 1080p on Cyberpunk on max RT with DLSS quality and 48 to 50fps in 4K with DLSS ultra performance . Shadow of the tomb raider hitting 160 fps on highest graphics at 1080p and 50fps on 4K with some DLSS. Blender is also loving the faster CPU. Hope my 5 year old B350 will hangon for another 1 or 2 years when the DDR5 platforms will become a lot more affordable and then I can think of upgrading. Thanks Jason for the videos ❤️
Striving to get this cpu with a more budget friendly 6800xt. VRAM was important to me without breaking the bank…. Picks are slim out there and wanna get a compatible system for son to trade to and exchange our parts 🤘. I’m committed to the Noctua fans and have a bitchN cooler already 🤘
Would a RTX 4070 Ghost 12GB be a good match for this cpu? By the way, your video really helped me out, i wanted to build a new pc but had no idea where to start, then i decided on this cpu then built around it and found your video ty so much.
Yes that's a good combo! But unless you need Nvidia for production purposes I'd be looking at the AMD options right now. A 6950XT would be fabulous with this, or a 7900XTX if you can swing it budget wise. See our latest GPU Market Update video from Saturday for more on this (:
I just built my new PC and here are the specs. What are your thoughts on it. Case is an ASUS Hyperion GR701 and I added 3 140mm top fans for exhaust, Motherboard is ASUS Z790 Hero, Intel Core i7 13700k, Corsair Vengeance DDR5 64gb 5600 ram, PNY 4070 12gb ram, Coolermaster air ma620m CPU cooler, Corsair 1200 watt modular PSU, WD Black 1tb M2, WD Black M2 4tb, WD Black M2 4tb, LG 34 inch 165hz curved monitor, Roccat Vulcan gaming keyboard, HP external DVD writer, Logitech Trackball, Razor Tiamat 7.1 Surround Headset Ver.202. Logiteck 2.1 Speaker system that I already had and I am using a Logitech C922 Pro Webcam that I had. I'm running Windows 11 Profeshional. What are your opinions on my Build?
I have an RTX2080 super and Updated from a Ryzen 7 3800x to a 5800x3d and the difference is nice in Division 2. FPS are stable now not as before and the peaks are higher and the lows are also higher. I am waiting for the RX 7900xtx at the moment. Nvidia is very expensive here in germany and i only have one RT Game... Shadof of the Tombraider. Playing on Ultrawide 3440x1440p
Bonjour, config copie aussi un 3800XT et un 2080 Hybrid et je passe a un X3D je pense que plus tard la voix 4080 sera logique pour votre config quand les prix vont s écrouler ici en France aussi hors de prix j ai sacrifie finance pour passer a 3090 et offrir dans ma famille le 2080 Hybrid merci de me donner le retour de températures du X3D en jeux du bas au max degrés, Merci d avance
Nice combo, specially look, black and white with some RGB bling, and price is really good. It is possible to reduce some price if you go with none RGB, air cooler and cheaper case and maybe with AMD video card, bur M.2 is must. If you are looking for a case, buy with installed fans.
The 500X3D is really appealing but I'm not really comfortable upgrading into an end of life platform, the 7700X is also substancially faster for compilation which is kind of a big deal for me so I'm saving and gonna be paying the premium for one of those eventually
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What do you think between the 5800X3D vs i5 13600K vs 7700X vs 7600X? What are you interested in building? Tell your story in a new comment below!
I'm gonna be building my first PC soon (upgrading from a Lenovo Legion with 2070 from a few years ago) so I'm probably gonna go with a 7700x, just cause I want something that can last me a couple years and stay upgradeable. Planning on building it with the new 7900 xtx graphics card if all the benchmarks look good. Since I don't mind waiting a few months to have the complete setup I'm just gonna try to get parts for it as they go on sale. Recently bought the 980 pro 2tb storage cause I saw the sale thanks to you. Please keep up the great vids
Hey just wanted to let you know that bios flashback isn't really a requirement for AMD motherboards because if you have access to any computer at all, even the library, you can download a bios onto a flash drive and then when you post just flash the bios. You don't technically even need a CPU to do it either. I just finished a build the other day with an Asrock B550m Steel legend that I got for 100 bucks on sale and went through the process myself and it's super easy.
TLDR: you don't have to limit the motherboards you recommend to one's that have a bios flashback button.
I like 5800X3D but im going with 13600K DDR4, platform cost 70€ more, but has better RAM OC potential, later upgrade possibility and perform much better in competitive 1080p. Thats important for me. AM4 has an insane platform cost.
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5800x3d all day. The cost difference is nice but for me the fact that in gaming performance is better than the i5 13th gen is the selling point
Your guild leader is lucky to have you as a member. Great vid! While I was highly considering starting a 5800X3D build from scratch, considering my local Micro Center is throwing in DDR5 memory for free with a 7700X and $50 off a compatible motherboard, it seems silly not to take advantage of that offer.
Thank you! Yes that Micro Center deal is incredible. 7700X makes so much sense with free high speed RAM!
Same, I ran to snag that deal up.
If you are building from scratch, AM5 is just the way to go.
I got the same deal + B650 aorus elite ax which came down to 180. Amazing board and overkill vrm heatsinks, other than sad audio chip, I'm thoroughly impressed by it
I wish we had something like that in EU.
Found your channel 3 days ago and at that time (which feels like years ago😅) I didn’t know SSD from HDD. 3 days later I feel like I’m confident enough to build my first PC. Started ordering the components. Thanks👍
Wow! That's so great to hear! Best wishes on your build and so glad we could help!!
Same here lol, i didnt even knew what is nvme ssd, what is aio cooler. Now i am trying to select pc parts by following his video and building one for myself under 2410$, i am from india. Thanks!
Great video, Jason! In the 4K world, I'm gonna do like Ambrosius. Relax and watch you guys doing all the work. I'm just started to use a 1440p monitor. 4K is a distant event on my horizon. 😉
Haha hi Thomas!! Ambrosius approves of this plan (;
Nothing wrong with that, right now I’m using an LG 32” 1440p IPS 165Hz monitor and it’s performed very well.
I built this exact system 4 months ago after 2 months of research much of it from this channel. I went with the Ryzen 5800X3D, 32 gigs (4x 8GB) of Vengence Ram and the Asus ROG Strix B550-F Gaming WiFi II board, and the Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Gaming OC 12G Graphics Card. (Note on my GPU card, At the time I purchased it was under $800 today it's $1380 on Amazon) I did use 1 SAMSUNG 980 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe for the C Drive and a Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 1TB NVMe M.2 in 2 TB for my secondary (This board has 2 M.2 slots slots "ONLY 1" is 4.0) and I set up x2 WD Black 2 TB HD in a Raid as my system backup. I added a few things not here but I paid about $2,400 (with my bells and whistles) in total. I did buy everything from Amazon and used the $200 off option and got the Amazon Credit Card in the process. (Note: Paid it off already as I had cash). Issues: not mentioned, I had to buy a PCIe x1 to 19 Pin USB 3.0 Header for a second header because this board only has one. If you get this system buy one when you order it was $24 and you will thank me later. Also, there is a loss of 5&6 SATA ports when using the second PCI-E slot. (ROG dropped the ball here) The loss of 2 of the 6 played no issue at all in my build but is worth noting.
5800x3d to me is like the 1080ti from back in the day. Hard to justify next gen.
you like to copy paste your comment under every video to get some easy likes don't you?^^
@@danii5630 perhaps, but it's true
This is such a cringe parroted comparison
It’s not the ideal CPU for everyone. It’s not that great with production work, for instance, and honestly not all games will take advantage of that extra L3 cache.
As a gaming CPU though, it can’t be beat for price to performance to efficiency.
5800X3D is pretty amazing. Has been in and out of stock since the price went to $329 (Newegg had it this morning but it just sold out again). Until DDR5 RAM comes down it just makes too much sense. But can't go wrong with 13600K, Ryzen 7700X either.
the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D is the ultimate gaming chip...my personal favourite...
Very good chip to be honest. Personally i lean to the 5900x as i need the extra cores / threads. As i play a game that relies on that :)
@@determination9296 i think 5900x better too
How much power suckage from that thing XD?
We are really excited about how this build came out! Video goes live in 15 mins!
Three years ago I got a cheap B450 with an R5 1600 with an idea of the 450 being able to use future CPUs. Soon in planning on getting the 5800x3d
Great video and a very nice build, especially with Mr Bear playing supervisor. It feels like the 5800X3D might be "good enough for gaming" for a long while; there could be a lot of future GPUs matching perfectly well with AM4 platforms.
Agreed! Thank you for watching and hope you have a great weekend (:
AM4 still has a ton of mileage left. Don't see any reason to buy AM5 - whole new mobo, ram and cpu for what, a 20% increase in performance if that from AM4?
I already have a 5600x and it’s a beast but man if the 5800x3D goes below $300 it’ll be hard not to upgrade
Have a 5800x and choose between 5800x3d or an 5900x... 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@Querilio if you edit and render then 5900x, only gaming specific games like fps and other cpu intensive games only - then 5800x3d
This was my exact comparison and build options 2 weeks ago moving up from a 4790K - I was comparing the 5800X3D vs 13600K vs 7700X and landed on the 5800X3D as well. Thanks for the validation!!! Now just waiting on the GPU options to upgrade my GTX970 as well!
Glad it was useful! Thanks for watching (:
For you, 3060ti, 3070 are good, but the best would be RX 6700 XT 12GB. Its basically a 3070 with 12GB and perfect performance for 1080p for FPS games. but for story games like Elden ring or CP2077, where you don't need more than 60FPS, it can do 4K too. I went from 5600x and 6700 XT 12GB to 5800X3D and 6800XT 16GB. Both are good
@@ancientslav4863I just bought a 6800xt and thinking to pair with 5800x3d, nice to know it’s known as a good combo 👍
5800X3D has been out of stock since the price dropped to 329. Newegg emailed me yesterday saying they were in stock. Within hours they were out of stock again. But I got my order in.
Black Friday may get them offered at 299. Maybe. Like your videos. Thanks
Glad you snagged it!!
After watching some of your videos I felt it was time to build my own pc and I'm so happy because this is almost the same build I've chosen! Looks like all the studying paid off! Thank you Jason for your thorough explanation and passion for this work!
You're very welcome! And good luck with the build (or congrats if you're done haha) :)
During the CPU choice I think you forgot to mention the targetted workload (wow) is very cache reliant and that happens to be the special trait of the 5800x3d. All by all a very good choice, but deserves a bit more explanation. Personally I would have waited for zen 4 x3d skews to launch. But I get it, new expansion launching and all :)Have fun gaming!
Agreed. MMO's and big open world games in particular really make good use of all that extra cache on the X3D.
ive been thinking of getting either the 13600k or 5800x3d. what would you say?
@@Altyno296 impossible to say, I don't know your workload...
@@BartVerhoeven1992 mostly gaming
@@Altyno296 some games will run better on 5800x3d, some will run better on the 13600k...
They're both end of platform so you won't be able to get an upgrade to your machine later down the line.
The 5800x3d will probably end up being cheaper, and has more cache, but the 13600k has an advantage in multi threading.
If there isn't some specific game you like, I don't think there is a wrong choice here.
My system is the 5800X3D with a 6700XT it just devours WoW at 1080p pining the needle at 140 FPS in all but the heaviest raiding situations. In all my games this setup just tears it up, the extra cache really smoothes out those little hitches at higher FPS.
I just ordered my 5800x3d for wow 1440p. I also have the 6700xt, cant wait to see the performance gains just off this cpu.
What quality level are you running at, Ultra?
Best PC part picker on youtube! Love your videos and explanations on why or why not to get certain components.
Thank you so much!! We really appreciate the awesome feedback
I built my new PC a few months back with 5800X3D, as faster in games than new AMD processors. Paired it with a 6900XT. So can't wait to see his suggestions.
7 7700X allready beats it but yeah it's still good :D
@@danii5630 but with the price of AM5 motherboards? fuck that lmao
13600k beats 7700x, but if u compare the 7700x with the similarly priced 13700k it gets eaten for lunch
Great build! Congrats on it! :)
Pretty much looks like the budget build of what I was planning to build so good to know I wasn't wrong on selections.
Though I do have to ask, is there a way for you to possibly give/start providing streaming + gaming benchmarks? Streaming as far as I've experienced has caused a good bit of performance loss especially when paired with vtubing or just extra interactive software and would love to be able to possibly compensate for that loss with more details. Though maybe it's just because I'm using an older gpu and it's not that big of a concern on 30/40 series cards.
This will be a great streaming/gaming pc. And thanks for the suggestion, I'll think about ways to do streaming/gaming benchmarks in the future
I went to microcenter today and bought the 12700k/asus z690 tuf mobo combo for $350! Seems like a fantastic deal.
I have a 5800X and a ROG Strix 3080 12gb and I benchmarked 98 games at 4k native on max settings, no raytracing. 109fps average across all 98 games. High spec games run around 60fps on max settings.
Love the build Jason! Please, a longer build montage next time! (5 mins or so). After building my PC last year, I am going to have to miss the fun for several more years so watching you is great! It's why I love channels like JayzTwoCents because you can see them mucking about getting the build together. Its soooo satistying when it does its first POST! Share that satisfaction please! :))))
Thanks so much for the feedback! We appreciate it (:
I was building 3 machines for Christmas, to specs requested. The 5800x3d is extremely under rated. 5950x with a 3080 under a 24 hour test load started dropping fps. The 5800x3d with a 6800 never dropped. It still beat the 3rd with an intell build that was rated higher on user benchmark.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing
Id avoid userbenchmark in the future. Very unreliable and biased.
@retrosimon9843 I saw a video on a forum of people was cheating the benchmarks and how it didn't show real world performance.
just installed this in my x470 gaming-f board. It reminds me of my 4790k from a few years back. Will punch above its weight class for years to come!
I bought the x3D chip in May to upgrade from my 5600x. I looked at it as a last hurrah for the platform. Hype drove my upgrade and I did regret it soon after, because my rig was great and $450 is $450. But seeing how well it's holding its own, I no longer regret it. I only play iRacing.
5800x3D, 3080, 32GB 3600 CL16, Giga B550 based on PC Builder's recommendation. I should be set for years to come. Screw the 4000 series cards!
Don't feel bad you're future proofed I don't think you'll need a new system for quite a while
Really informative video, great work! I would be really interested in your low/mid/high cost builds for the new RX 7900 XTX coming out very soon. That's the build I'm holding off for so I'd like to see it! Thanks for the video Jason :)
Thank you! We'll have lots of info on the 7900XTX coming soon (:
@@PCBuilderChannel I can't wait for it! Cheers Jason!
I'd love to see a comparison between 5900X and 5800X3D in 1440p gaming, they're around the same price... Maybe 5900X being a tad cheaper.
It's really a great time to build an AM4 system right now if you don't want to overspend!
Depending on your GPU the 5800X3D is anywhere from 15%-20% faster. The more powerful the GPU the more of a difference you'll see
@@PCBuilderChannel okay thanks for the quick reply! I got the 5900X for like 270 dollars 2nd hand and that was a banging deal. I would have to pay at least another $100 to go up to a 5800X3D so I don't think the performance upgrade is worth the price. Maybe it will get cheaper.
I have RX6800 currently btw.
Isn't that more of a thing with Nvidia gfx cards due to their greater driver overhead ?
Spoiler: the 5800x3D is hugely better than the 5900x in almost every title.
@@marxman6896 absolute horseshit
@10:06 Cat: I have a perfect PSU (Purr Supply Unit) for this case
Exactly! The cat is in charge I just work here (;
Glad i asked about the intel gpus so you can always refer to that Q&A video XD
Haha perfect!! Thank you Tobias (:
Hello! Watching your energy consumption skyrocket so high I was wondering if it would be fun for you to create:
"The Best 1440k pc for the least energy (watts) consumption!"
Something that could withstand 1440k gaming in 5 years with builds of today but with as low rgb, the lowest cpu and graphics consumption :))
Just for fun :3
Thanks for the suggestion!
@@PCBuilderChannel thanks for the answer
Great stuff. I love the build. I am going to attempt to build my first gaming pc based on this system. The type of gaming I do most of the time is racing simulators. I would love to see how this system handles Assetto Corsa Compitizione in 4K.
Grats to the GM! Cranking all settings to 10 for the first time without any issues feels awesome :D
Agreed! I think he's going to have a whole new gaming experience (;
What a nice set up 😁😁
The build came out great!
11:58 Ambrosius just making sure you did everything right 😄
The supervisor's work is never done! (;
locally, the x3d for me is still easily $420, i went for AM5 instead, saw a deal for the x670e aorus master for 45% off effectively (meanwhile Z790 is almost ~$700+, if not i might have been swayed to get the 13600kf instead. Got the best kit of ddr5 from OEM too, now waiting on the x3d CPUs in Q1.
4090 is about the first card i would consider for 4k gaming, those 4k benchmarks of the 3080 just are not good enough. you can get ddr5 5600 cl36 32 GB kits for 150, would certainly recommend that as a min on any build. 13700k is still what i would recommend, but 7600x, 7700x, 13600k are all perfectly fine aswell. wouldn't go with 5800x3d unless you can an amazing price
Depends on your needs of course! (:
Found this video late, but I already had AM4 and last year I upgraded my CPU to the 5800X3D and paired it with the 6700XT. It's been a beast of a combo and I mainly game and do 3D modeling.
Love your content, Jason! Informative and very entertaining.
Thank you Nigel! Hope you keep enjoying the content (:
Glad to see this. With the cost of new gen mobos and DDR5 I have been wondering if there was even a reason to go with them over a 5800x3d build?
Find out when the video goes live in 30 mins! (:
Especially if the main game is WoW. It plays 60fps on high settings 1080p on a 1660 (not even super, which is what my downstairs machine is using) + Ryzen 2600. You don't need to buy even close bleeding edge for WoW.
Great video. Im almost positive you can get the build to under $1500 if you pick up a used 3080 and a 5800X for $199 from Microcenter. I know the X3D is a bunch faster, but for almost 2x the price? I don't know if thats worth it. If you are playing at 4k, I don't really see the standard 5800X being too big of a bottleneck. If it is, then the 13600k at $280 is the better deal.
We've got a 13600K build guide on the channel too! Also good option (:
@@PCBuilderChannel Absolutely a good choice 👌. The 13600k is the strongest i5 CPU ever made. The only downside I guess is the limited upgrade path. Your only real viable upgrade is moving up to a 13700k. The best platform right now that has any kind of future is AM5. If I were building out a new platform from scratch, it would have to be an AM5 based build, probably with a 7600X or 7700X, depending on the Black Friday prices. Hey Jason, I know this is a lot to ask, because you already make so many good and informative videos, but right now I believe there is an opportunity to build a $600-$750 pc with used parts that has unparalleled performance and value. Do you think you might be able to make a video centered on just Ebay used parts that everyone has access to? Newegg and Amazon + Amazon warehouse and Antonline can also be included for super good deals on new parts, but CPU and GPU should be bought on eBay so most people can deal hunt and succeed in putting together a great value for money pc with used parts included in the build. For example, 2060 super on ebay is $200, 2070 $225 and 2070 Super $275ish. AMD is even better. 5700XT $160-$170. The 5600x and 5600 are almost $100 new, so used can be under $100. Its insane. I just don't remember there being a better time in many years to build a 1440p 165hz capable computer for AAA gaming for this little money. You could get so much even with a $500 budget for 1080p, and still do high frame rate 1440p with DLSS enabled. I'm super impressed by the performance of the newest releases in hardware, but I think the real winners are going to be the people that spend as little as possible and still get an RTX + DLSS graphics card and a very modern, high frame rate capable machine for very little money, like $500-$750, and can still get good settings and frame rates and features with graphics cards that were very strong in 2019 like the 2060 Super/2070 super/2080 and say a 5600 or 5600x/5700x depending on what you decide your ultimate budgets will be.
Well u can get a used rx6900xt for $500 and a brand new 5800x3d for $315 ,so I think u can easily do a build for 1200 .
Just upgraded my rig from I7-7700K to the 5800x3d, the 3090 can really stretch it's legs now! Doubled my frames in msfs at 4k using ultra settings.
Another fantastic video Jason. Keep up the good work!
In Croatia everything is more expensive than in USA. For example 5800X3D costs 460€=475$(US). And if I have to pay more I rather go with AM5 platform, and at moment cheap GPU for 1080p 60-75Hz gameplay in sandblock games, like Scum(still early access game 0.75, soon 0.8 update).
Hk2000
Same here in India, the pc builds costing 1000 dollars costs usually 1500 dollars to 2000 dollars and cheaper brands doesn't good quality products, not at all reliable
Barem ti je cijeli EU otvoren bez straha od carine
@@Vodoriga da, Ali uvijek postoji sansa da se roba osteti, "slucajno izgubi", ...... 🖤
Yes always make the best decision for your regional pricing! 13600K, 7600X/7700X are also very good high end gaming choices! If only doing 1080p 75Hz, just get a Ryzen 5600 or i3 12100F and invest all your money in the GPU and/or monitor upgrade!
As someone who has an expensive x570 board (ASUS Dark Hero) and went from the 5800X to the 5800X3D, you don't need to overpay on the board because you can't overclock the 5800X3D, I've tried. If overclocking is your goal, the rule is you should get an enthusiast board that has better components to achive that but you can't overclock the 5800X3D. For gaming, the 5800X3D performs at stock better than the 5800X with PBO2. Now I don't know if my 64GB (16x4) Dominator 3600 CL18 can run at 4000 CL18 with FCLK set at 2000 because of the board, and I'd say probably not and you could say that I shouldn't get any better performance but I like the coolness factor. Really, I didn't want an X570 board with a fan which the Dark Hero does not have. I'd say shift your budget to a 5800X3D, save money with a good B550 or cheap X570 that is still good and decent RAM.
Have an crosshair VIII dark hero with a 5800x. Think its better to upgrade at an 5900x. Or?
Can oc my 5800x at 5,225 ghz all core at 89°C.... My question is... Is it better to take an 5900x with all core 5,3 ghz and 12 cores for unreal engine 5..?
@@Querilio Depends on your GPU. Hardware Canucks (sp?) said a 3070 Ti at 1440p wouldn't really benefit. Well, I still have screenshots of HZD going from 112fps to 138fps. SotTR, 10-ish better but still a plus. I'm sure there are some that won't but I doubt the 5800X3D would perform worse. Really, look at some of the 7950X reviews that compare to the 5800X3D and they are neck and neck. Problem is that most benchmarks large RUclipsrs do is 3090 Ti/4090 at 1080p. That is just unrealistic. With that card, you either want 4K or super smooth, high refresh 1440p. Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed do some 1440p benchmarking. I actually was going to get the 5950X over the 5900X but many benchmarks put the 5800X3D above both. I just plan on gaming so 5800X3D is best for me. I also did a little retro gaming and the best way to make a 500MHz processor run like a 100MHz, was to disable the cache. The 5800X3D adds more cache which definitely will help in gaming. Cool overclocking. Its something I just don't do anymore, a lot of work, never really got results that mattered much, though there were some awesome ones. With how CPUs now just run as fast as possible w/o exceeding a thermal limit, I'll invest in better cooling and a nice mobo that will eventually sell higher than others used. Highend ASUS boards seem to do the best. Also, the highest end CPU for a socket does well too. My Phenom II X6 1100T is still worth a good bit, especially buying it used. I never OC'd it but I unlocked the turbo to let all six cores run at 3.7GHz. Otherwise, it would only turbo to 3.7 for up to a max of 3. When it did that, it would run all cores at 3.4GHz. Again, the best cooling kept that stable for a few years with the fastest DDR3 ram (1333 @ 6-6-6-18).
Me after buying a 5800x 😊
The internet: 5800x3d
My 5800x3d just came in today as well as my tomahawk max motherboard. Can’t wait to build
Ohh perfect timing! Video goes live in 20 mins (:
Wow Player here as well. I started in The Burning Crusade. But unfortunately i have only ever had laptops to play on. Let me dream about such PC 😂. Thanks for the videos
Your videos have been invaluable to me….did my first custom build thanks to your guides and am currently putting together a 4k gaming build for my girlfriend…keep up the great work buddy! 😎
Wonderful! So glad we could help! Best wishes on your current build (:
Amazing video!! Thank you 🙏 It's great to see tips for the actual completed builds 🤠
Thank you! The build turned out real nice (:
I ended up picking up a 5800x3d for $330 new on ebay and then the Gigabyte AORUS Elite motherboard you recommended for $150 from Newegg, for a total of $480 before taxes as I already have ddr4 ram. Whereas a 13600k build would've costed me about $20+ more from the motherboards I could find that were actually in stock. Either way, it might not be much but $20 saved is $20 saved.
I was expecting you to prod the cat like usual but he/she isn't there 🤣.
EDIT: the cat appeared 🤣 just in time to get some hair in the new build and oversee you did it right 😄.
This is the channel, there is not another channel, thanks a lot.
So glad you are enjoying!! Thanks for watching (:
Hi Jason, great video. I’m currently building an itx mini. I play a good amount of games (WoW included) and am curious if you would go with 2x8gb 2x16gb of ram? I don’t plan on over clocking at all and I also have a 3080ti gpu and mostly play at 4k? Thanks.
Go for a 2X16. You (almost) cannot upgrade an itx build (probably). Go for a 3600 cl 16 one if you have like a high end cpu like a Ryzen 7 or ryzen 9.
See our Best Ram for Gaming 2022 video!
FOR THE HORDE (;
Great build and most likely something I will go with after having watched your vids! What made you go with the 3080 instead of an 6800 XT or 6900 XT? Can't seem to decide on GPUs.. :/
Honestly just that I had one! If I was buying new I'd go 6900XT or 6800Xt especially since they are on sale right now. See our Black Friday Deals video we just posted (like an hour ago) (:
Oh your friend's old PC brought back memories. I was still running an AM3 rig until a couple of years ago when it died.
I have gone from AM3 to AM5 lol.
(:
I have a question to PC builder
My built spec:
- Ryzen 7 5800x3d
- PNY RTX 4090
- 32GB ddr4 3600Mhz
- B550 MSI Pro WiFi
- 3TB m.2 ssd + 5 TB HDD
My question is, does 5800x3d cause a bottleneck to the RTX 4090 ?
I thought you were going to say 'cheap as f**k' at 8:03 😅🤣
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Still using my 4790k for 4k 60 fps gaming!
I'm currently putting together a parts list and you named almost every part on my list lol. I'm basing it on the 5800X3D as well. Great build!
Awesome! So glad we could help and best wishes on your build!!
Thanks for this I really hope when the next gen GPU's hit the market you'll do an all AMD with an X3D and XTX. Enjoy your channel, vids keep up the great work.
Glad you enjoyed! Looking forward to doing lots of XTX content (:
I see a lot of this type of channel, however you get me a lot a new useful information
That's great to hear! Thank you
I'm thinking of getting 5800x3d. Its reasonably priced. I have 5600x with 3080 gpu. I only vr game with pimax 8kx.
The PC building cat! Lol. Great video Jason.
Very important part of the build! (;
Thank you!
Dragonflight is the reason why I am upgrading my wifes machine. We got her a 13600K and an Asus Z690-F... I already prepped a USB Stick, with the new bios on it for her while we wait for the parts to ship and since I couldn't sleep tonight I'm sitting here listening to you and reading the Z690-F Motherboard manual. I downloaded online As I haven't built a computer since "Koi" this Hand me down PC we built her in 2014 that I am watching you on.
Ohh exciting! Congrats on the upgrade and have a great time in Dragonflight!
FOR THE HORDE! (;
@@PCBuilderChannel haha she's primarily an alliance person for the alliance haha
This is just the right information that I need. My old desktop is still rocking a 3rd generation i5 and I've been avoiding doing any raiding until I can upgrade.
I just built a new PC with a 5800x3d and a rx6900xt ,16gb cl16 ,850w psu and 1tb nvme. All in all i came to about 1700€. Its become expensive hobby :D
hello！watching from Japan.
The easy-to-understand explanations are very helpful.
I can't speak English well yet, but I'm looking forward to watching this channel!
So glad you enjoyed! Thank you!
Manage to build my first PC thanks to PC Builder!
Amazing, love to hear it! Congrats on the build!
Oh snap.....he broke out the duct tape!!
I went MSI B550 Unify board/5600X3D. It has the X3D auto curve Kombo Strike button in the BIOS for a non multiplier de facto X3D OC and great RAM OC capability. I run B-Die RAM at 4000 MHz with tight primary and sub timings. The board does that with a BIOS button up to 5500MHz stable. $279 pro OC board, $75 Microcenter closeout, insane.
For my 5800x3d build I ended up getting a kingston fury renegade 1tb m2 drive, what do you think of it?
I do a lot of reading / writing large files and snagged it for $99 with tax and shipping!
Hey hey look at that, nice to see an AK620 shoutout. It's such a good cooler man, crazy how no matter what game I run, it's almost always cool air exhausted out the back. Such a little beast of a cooler.
Late reaction, but I too use the 5800X3D, and like you, I play world of warcraft, and honestly, ever since I am using it, the loading times are insanely fast, even when booting the game up for the first time. First time logging in, takes maybe 9 seconds at most. Later loadingscreens take maybe half of that time or even less, so I am really happy with it. For motherboard, I decided to go with an Asus Prime X570-P because it was only 20 euros more expensive than one of the B550 motherboards where I live. GPU I put in a RTX 3090Ti , so Im definetly good for atleast as long as my old pc again ( like five years, perhaps more). Im honestly really glad this CPU came out as it allowed me to do 4k gaming while keeping the prices a bit lower, instead of going with DDR5 memory.
So all in all I really like this video!
Great Video! Do you suggest SMT on or off in the bios? I always have the feeling that with enabled SMT you get micro-stuttering in the games.
4090 just landed, my old system died on me… sent my 5800x3d for warranty, I’m praying amd sends me a new chip
Sending good wishes!
I just love your content! :) very friendly most especially the CAT!
Thank you so much! Hope you keep enjoying and the cat says hello (;
Will you make detailed guide of what to do after you build pc?
Also, how needed is Intel ME?(i have seen that newest Asus motherboard bios require to install Intel ME)
Thank you for all videos, you are definitely one of the best channels for people who just got themselves into PC building world!
Yes this continues to be on the long list of how to videos. We got waylaid by all the product launches. I did go over this briefly in a Q&A video but I can't remember which one. I don't mess with Intel ME in the bios here's more on it though: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine
@@PCBuilderChannel thank you for answering!
I just picked up the 5800x 3d and scored a red devil 6950xt on sale for $789...cannot wait to experience team red performance for the first time. 🤘🏼
Nice!!
@@PCBuilderChannel I overpaid for my last PC but thanks to your build videos this next PC is coming together with much more horsepower
Moving from 5900X to 5800X3D in order to be ready for any 4090 I can get my hands on or 7900XTX once they release.
Purely for gaming, so many good things about this CPU. Got lucky in latest Newegg restock Thursday.
Doesn’t the 4090 benefit from faster single thread. Brute forcing 4K is all on the gpu I thought
For production which is better ?
Ryzen 7 5800x3D RTX3070 on a B450 board air cooled Deep Cool at 60c to 70c 3200hz ram 16 gigs and it rocks with any game I throw at it. Playing in 2K is great! This is a great budget build for those that want performance without taking a loan out on their home.
Someone is fishing for that guild promotion...
haha! Hope it works (;
This one clean build, i would add black and white cable extension to add a tuxedo cat look.
i thought intel preferred faster ram speed. whats the best thing to tune my b die ram ddr4 of course? 1080p high fps 240+ for 13900k 3090ti for playing games like cod basically AAA titles. ive tuned my ram to 4000 c16 manually. so ive set about 6-8 timings manually. also which do you recommend to tune down? ie trfc tfaw etc., oh and before you say a 3090ti at 1080p cod is 99% usage on low settings in cod mw2. so yes even a 3090ti is bottlenecked in 1080p. another crazy thing to jason is with the newest update they put out i lost 70+ fps. its almost as if they are doing it on purpose to sell the new gpu's. gameplay itself seems to hold you back in matches as well. kinda like they did when the ps4 pro came out.
Just bought a 5800x3D with a 6800 xt graphics card. Super excited!
Nice!!
Hi Jason, 👋 I am sharing my Ryzen upgrade story here : After weeks of thinking and budget calculations and loads of techuber videos including yours, I finally made up my mind and instead of jumping to new DDR5 platform I upgraded my 5 year old B350 mobo with a Ryzen 5700X replacing the old Ryzen 1600. For my RTX 3060 ti a 13600k or 7700X or 5800x3d won't be giving too much fps compared to a 5700X. Getting a good 60fps 1080p on Cyberpunk on max RT with DLSS quality and 48 to 50fps in 4K with DLSS ultra performance . Shadow of the tomb raider hitting 160 fps on highest graphics at 1080p and 50fps on 4K with some DLSS. Blender is also loving the faster CPU. Hope my 5 year old B350 will hangon for another 1 or 2 years when the DDR5 platforms will become a lot more affordable and then I can think of upgrading. Thanks Jason for the videos ❤️
I wish PCPartsPicker had a filter for motherboards with BIOS Flashback.
I just upgraded within the last few months from a vega 64/r 7 2700 to a 6800/5800x3d and no regrets.
This looks amazing!
It came out great! (:
Woww thanks for the great vid, this is really helpful! I'm thinking of going for a full-AMD rig sometime in the near future, so this really helps!
Glad I could help! Thanks for watching
Striving to get this cpu with a more budget friendly 6800xt. VRAM was important to me without breaking the bank…. Picks are slim out there and wanna get a compatible system for son to trade to and exchange our parts 🤘. I’m committed to the Noctua fans and have a bitchN cooler already 🤘
Would a RTX 4070 Ghost 12GB be a good match for this cpu? By the way, your video really helped me out, i wanted to build a new pc but had no idea where to start, then i decided on this cpu then built around it and found your video ty so much.
Yes that's a good combo! But unless you need Nvidia for production purposes I'd be looking at the AMD options right now. A 6950XT would be fabulous with this, or a 7900XTX if you can swing it budget wise. See our latest GPU Market Update video from Saturday for more on this (:
I just built my new PC and here are the specs. What are your thoughts on it. Case is an ASUS Hyperion GR701 and I added 3 140mm top fans for exhaust, Motherboard is ASUS Z790 Hero, Intel Core i7 13700k, Corsair Vengeance DDR5 64gb 5600 ram, PNY 4070 12gb ram, Coolermaster air ma620m CPU cooler, Corsair 1200 watt modular PSU, WD Black 1tb M2, WD Black M2 4tb, WD Black M2 4tb, LG 34 inch 165hz curved monitor, Roccat Vulcan gaming keyboard, HP external DVD writer, Logitech Trackball, Razor Tiamat 7.1 Surround Headset Ver.202. Logiteck 2.1 Speaker system that I already had and I am using a Logitech C922 Pro Webcam that I had. I'm running Windows 11 Profeshional. What are your opinions on my Build?
I have an RTX2080 super and Updated from a Ryzen 7 3800x to a 5800x3d and the difference is nice in Division 2. FPS are stable now not as before and the peaks are higher and the lows are also higher. I am waiting for the RX 7900xtx at the moment. Nvidia is very expensive here in germany and i only have one RT Game... Shadof of the Tombraider. Playing on Ultrawide 3440x1440p
Bonjour, config copie aussi un 3800XT et un 2080 Hybrid et je passe a un X3D je pense que plus tard la voix 4080 sera logique pour votre config quand les prix vont s écrouler
ici en France aussi hors de prix j ai sacrifie finance pour passer a 3090 et offrir dans ma famille le 2080 Hybrid
merci de me donner le retour de températures du X3D en jeux du bas au max degrés, Merci d avance
@@lucgrunenwald7795 max 70 degrees on games cooled with an 360 AIO BeQuiet Silent Loop 2
Thanks for the info i already have 90% of this rig already a gpu to a 3090 a 1000 watt psu and this cpu will definitely help my gaming rig out alot
Nice combo, specially look, black and white with some RGB bling, and price is really good. It is possible to reduce some price if you go with none RGB, air cooler and cheaper case and maybe with AMD video card, bur M.2 is must. If you are looking for a case, buy with installed fans.
Good tips!
Why is m.2 a must?
The 500X3D is really appealing but I'm not really comfortable upgrading into an end of life platform, the 7700X is also substancially faster for compilation which is kind of a big deal for me so I'm saving and gonna be paying the premium for one of those eventually
Also a good choice! Going to be putting out a 7700X guide soon (:
I played the original Wow for 10 years, from the first bêta & bêta stress test in 2003/2004. I didn't know it was still popular.
Thanks Jayson!
Thanks for watching Shaun!
Couldnt be done so nice without big boi Ambrosius help ❤️thats a really nice machine👍
He's the MVP for sure (;
Thank you, it turned out really nice!
Thanks, good info.
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching
Deep cool? No way! Thank you!