Wow, this is by far the best Hilleberg tent review video I've seen! Your thoughtful approach to streamlining production and keeping the script focused really shines through. The narration is excellent too-clear and to the point. Fantastic job!
Hi Rob, super fast and to the point once again with all the key details. Great shots and editing. I feel that this is what people want to know regarding the differences between two similar tents. You are building up your subscribers very quickly and have a great number of views here for your subscriber number and the time the video has been uploaded. Well done. Tom
Thanks once again Tom :) The channel has hit 400 subs today. It’s nothing compared to “real RUclipsrs” but more that I would have ever imagined 😃 Thanks again for taking the time!
I still have the Nammatj 3 GT on top of the wish list but could be tempted by the Kaitum, the inner tent end ‘wall’ is very nice on both sides, especially in winter camping the large inner tent would be perfect. Thanks as always. Greetings from Ireland.
Funny how things go. I'm actually considering saving weight and moving to a Nammatj style tent with one wall. Anything specific that you don't like about it?
I like it a lot but whenever I see the Kaitum or Keron I think about long winter nights cost in the spacious inner tent. I have a Vango Pulsar which is like a Nammatj and love using it, if I had to choose I would still go for the Nammatj in the end. Looking forward to your review.
Yeah they do allow you to sit up at both ends. If you’re gonna be spending more time in it that’s nicer indeed. Keron4GT felt almost too big with all the space in the vestibule. But that was during summer and nets needed to be closed because of bugs.
The Helags is underated I think. It's a perfect tunnel for non snow conditions. 3 pole design is bomber and there are not many on the market at such low weight with 3 poles. Much stronger that a two pole design in the wind. Even though it's yellow label it's still a 20d very strong fabric which is still above average for most tent fabrics on the modern day market.
Indeed for some reason it’s not as popular as I expected either. It’s a great tent. Maybe it needs more time 🤷🏻♂️
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We went with the Helags 3 (2 people, but very tall, and you know how it is with large backbags, and the weight is almost identical to the Helags 2). I'm a bit concerned about using it for our planned trek in Iceland next year (even though we're aiming for snow-free periods), but the idea of swapping the inner tent for one we can close more against the chill might be just the inspiration we needed.
Wow! My 2 favorite Hilleberg tents compared 🤩 useful and accurate comparisons- even some details I had missed so thanks! Which one is your favorite and why?
Hi Rob, I hope you're doing well. Thank you for taking the time to provide this review. I appreciate it; nicely done. Currently, I have an Enan for solo camping and a Nammatj 3 GT. However, since I am not using the Nammatj 3 GT anymore for deep winter or expeditions, I am looking into lighter options. I think the Helags ticks all the boxes, but I would like to see a GT version, to be honest. There is an 800g difference between both the Kaitum and Helags models. Therefore, I guess it will depend on the intended use which one is best. I am thinking of using the tent with my family during spring-autumn in the UK. How does the Helags perform in late autumn and windy environments? Since I use the Enan even in snow-free conditions in winter (I did minor modifications with a small weight penalty), I would be inclined to save the weight and get the Helags. However, going solo and with family are different scenarios. Thank you for your insights. Regards, Guido
Hi Guido Great question. Yes the Helags GT would be great but that might still take some time. They’ve just released new tents so I’d say it can take 2-3 years. Disclaimer: I can be wrong and Hilleberg can surprise us all :) Tunnel tents are great in winds that don’t change direction. Ideally when there’s a bit of snow to anchor the corners. Kaitum will be slightly better as it has a guyline on the upper vent for extra anchoring and you can have the fabric a bit lower. I’ve used some rocks to build a 10cm “wall” to prevent wind comping up from below - that helps a bit too. In my Helags I also sometimes use 10mm pole, one I borrow from Keron3, second one from Soulo. 10mm poles do make a difference if you have extra or are willing to invest. This could make the Helags more versatile as you can add the poles and extra guylines when needed. Extra guylines and appropriate pegs are key on muddy ground. I’m the end, both tents are strong and perform well. I’m happy I’ve switched from Kaitum to Helags. Hope this helps Cheers
I expect it to be just fine. It does lack that one extra guy line in the front, so I would recommend having additional guy lines on the edges, both at 45 degrees. At least on the up-wind side. and then stack some rocks around to add a bit of wind protection. I've seen the Anjan do a great job in strong winds so am confident in this one too.
Hey Rob, thanks for the nice video! What I like most on Hilleberg tents is that you can pack the dry inner tent even in bad weather. Is that still possible with the Helags? I just can’t assess how wet the inner tent gets in ordinary rain due to the recess on the sides.
Hey Paul. Yes that’s possible on all Hilleberg tents. It’s the Nordic pitch where you set up both at the same time. Personally I never bother detaching the inner tent. The yellow fabric might be a bit damp but never seen that as an issue. Its not like the ground will be a pool of water, and if there are a few drops on it, then I’d just use a sponge. After a night in the tent, the inner might be damp as well, just from condensation, so then you’re not really packing a dry tent. The sides should be well protected from the rain. Wouldn’t worry about that too much, unless you’re in a crazy storm with loads of side wind. In that case get red or black label tent. Hope this helps buddy!
In summer, which one of Kaitum and Helags is more ventilated and not too hot? I observed that although Kaitum has two windows, the ventilation area seems to be less than that of Helags. High, Helags vents at the very bottom. Who is better for ventilation? Conversely, if there is a low temperature in winter, will Helags be troubled by the constant blowing of cold wind? Thank you!
It's a very good question and I think the answer is not very straightforward unfortunately. I'd say it depends on your environment / terrain. If there is nothing blocking wind low to the ground (like bushes, rocks etc) then you might get more air flow in the Helags. In colder temperature you might want to block the airflow inside so it still goes inside of the tent, but not on you. You need the airflow for ventilation but using a backpack in the vestibule can help. Some people use fabric on the inner mesh door to block some of the wind on yellow label hilleberg tents. It's a tough choice. If weight is not an issue I think I'd recommend the Kaitum just for more versatility. Hope this helps.
Given that the 3-man version only really accommodates 2 men comfortably, does that mean the 2-man version of the Katium is only really big enough for one man? I am mulling getting the 2-man version of the Katium as a winter tent for one man, and possibly a summer tent for 2. (I assume that the 2-man Helags and 2-man Katium have the same floor plan.)
Yes, 2 people in 2 person tent is very tight. 3 person is great for 2 but also a palace for one. If you want to use it for 2 people as well, that might be a better option as it's only 300g more in the Kaitum and 200g in the Helags. Length wise it's the same, so only a bit wider.
Hi Rob. Looking at these tents for (mostly summer) camping with my daughter. Helags probably makes more sense. But worried about draught with the ventilation so low and only mesh door. Like that on kaitum you can partially close the bottom part and have ventilation higher up. What are your experiences?
Really depends on the weather you expect. The door on the Helags can go down quite far. On a windy night you could put some rocks outside to create a small wall or a backpack on the inside. I’ve seen people make a small piece of fabric to add on the mesh door too. The mesh in itself stops surprisingly a lot of wind too. So there are ways to manage the wind. That being said, if you don’t mind the extra weight, I think Kaitum offers better ventilation options with the “window” opening. Personally, for summer camping I sold the Kaitum and got the Anjan just to save weight. Also, if you were looking at the two person, consider getting the three person. Just that extra bit of width can make all the difference. Good luck. Hope this helps ✌🏽
Yes had it for a bit. See my other video. It’s a great tent for sure and really liked it but decided that I’m too tall for it and prefer Helags instead.
A bit strange question, which one is best.. Obviously they are for different uses. Kaitum is 4 season tent and helags 3, not for snowy conditions. (I`ve got a Kaitum 3gt and Allak 2 and I love both. Ventilation through the tent is working in summer as well. )
Sides are ok but many yellow label owners wish there was some door panel like on the other labels to zip off . Some hang a T-shirt Strategic placement of a backpacking also helps
I wondered whether the catenary curve might make the Helags’ side panels more taut than in the Kaitum and less prone to flapping? In strong wind the end vents on my Nammatj get soaked by rain which drips into the vestibule. I imagine the Helags might be better in snow-free rain storms than the Kaitum?
Wow, this is by far the best Hilleberg tent review video I've seen! Your thoughtful approach to streamlining production and keeping the script focused really shines through. The narration is excellent too-clear and to the point. Fantastic job!
Thanks so much for your comment Tex 🙏🏻
Keep up all the great Hilleberg reviews. I've already got 2 but lust for more~
Haha I’ve run out of Hillebergs to review, but hope to do new ones soon 🙏
Which ones are you looking at? And which one do you have?
Hi Rob, super fast and to the point once again with all the key details. Great shots and editing. I feel that this is what people want to know regarding the differences between two similar tents. You are building up your subscribers very quickly and have a great number of views here for your subscriber number and the time the video has been uploaded. Well done. Tom
Thanks once again Tom :)
The channel has hit 400 subs today. It’s nothing compared to “real RUclipsrs” but more that I would have ever imagined 😃
Thanks again for taking the time!
I still have the Nammatj 3 GT on top of the wish list but could be tempted by the Kaitum, the inner tent end ‘wall’ is very nice on both sides, especially in winter camping the large inner tent would be perfect. Thanks as always. Greetings from Ireland.
Funny how things go. I'm actually considering saving weight and moving to a Nammatj style tent with one wall. Anything specific that you don't like about it?
I like it a lot but whenever I see the Kaitum or Keron I think about long winter nights cost in the spacious inner tent. I have a Vango Pulsar which is like a Nammatj and love using it, if I had to choose I would still go for the Nammatj in the end. Looking forward to your review.
Yeah they do allow you to sit up at both ends. If you’re gonna be spending more time in it that’s nicer indeed. Keron4GT felt almost too big with all the space in the vestibule. But that was during summer and nets needed to be closed because of bugs.
The Helags is underated I think. It's a perfect tunnel for non snow conditions. 3 pole design is bomber and there are not many on the market at such low weight with 3 poles. Much stronger that a two pole design in the wind. Even though it's yellow label it's still a 20d very strong fabric which is still above average for most tent fabrics on the modern day market.
Indeed for some reason it’s not as popular as I expected either. It’s a great tent. Maybe it needs more time 🤷🏻♂️
We went with the Helags 3 (2 people, but very tall, and you know how it is with large backbags, and the weight is almost identical to the Helags 2). I'm a bit concerned about using it for our planned trek in Iceland next year (even though we're aiming for snow-free periods), but the idea of swapping the inner tent for one we can close more against the chill might be just the inspiration we needed.
Curious how the Helags worked for you in Iceland?
Wow! My 2 favorite Hilleberg tents compared 🤩 useful and accurate comparisons- even some details I had missed so thanks! Which one is your favorite and why?
Very welcome. I think the Helags has become my new favourite 🤩
How about you?
@@OutdoorPrep its a tough choice! Both are really great 😊 however the winner is the Helags mainly due to the door
Hi Rob,
I hope you're doing well.
Thank you for taking the time to provide this review. I appreciate it; nicely done.
Currently, I have an Enan for solo camping and a Nammatj 3 GT. However, since I am not using the Nammatj 3 GT anymore for deep winter or expeditions, I am looking into lighter options. I think the Helags ticks all the boxes, but I would like to see a GT version, to be honest.
There is an 800g difference between both the Kaitum and Helags models. Therefore, I guess it will depend on the intended use which one is best. I am thinking of using the tent with my family during spring-autumn in the UK. How does the Helags perform in late autumn and windy environments? Since I use the Enan even in snow-free conditions in winter (I did minor modifications with a small weight penalty), I would be inclined to save the weight and get the Helags. However, going solo and with family are different scenarios.
Thank you for your insights.
Regards,
Guido
Hi Guido
Great question. Yes the Helags GT would be great but that might still take some time.
They’ve just released new tents so I’d say it can take 2-3 years. Disclaimer: I can be wrong and Hilleberg can surprise us all :)
Tunnel tents are great in winds that don’t change direction. Ideally when there’s a bit of snow to anchor the corners.
Kaitum will be slightly better as it has a guyline on the upper vent for extra anchoring and you can have the fabric a bit lower.
I’ve used some rocks to build a 10cm “wall” to prevent wind comping up from below - that helps a bit too.
In my Helags I also sometimes use 10mm pole, one I borrow from Keron3, second one from Soulo. 10mm poles do make a difference if you have extra or are willing to invest.
This could make the Helags more versatile as you can add the poles and extra guylines when needed. Extra guylines and appropriate pegs are key on muddy ground.
I’m the end, both tents are strong and perform well. I’m happy I’ve switched from Kaitum to Helags. Hope this helps
Cheers
excellent ! thank you very much !!
You’re welcome and thanks for watching 🙏
Thanks for a great review! How do you think Helags will perform if you get surprised by a severe storm in the summer in swedish mountaintrails?
I expect it to be just fine. It does lack that one extra guy line in the front, so I would recommend having additional guy lines on the edges, both at 45 degrees. At least on the up-wind side. and then stack some rocks around to add a bit of wind protection. I've seen the Anjan do a great job in strong winds so am confident in this one too.
Hey Rob, thanks for the nice video! What I like most on Hilleberg tents is that you can pack the dry inner tent even in bad weather. Is that still possible with the Helags? I just can’t assess how wet the inner tent gets in ordinary rain due to the recess on the sides.
Hey Paul. Yes that’s possible on all Hilleberg tents. It’s the Nordic pitch where you set up both at the same time. Personally I never bother detaching the inner tent. The yellow fabric might be a bit damp but never seen that as an issue. Its not like the ground will be a pool of water, and if there are a few drops on it, then I’d just use a sponge. After a night in the tent, the inner might be damp as well, just from condensation, so then you’re not really packing a dry tent. The sides should be well protected from the rain. Wouldn’t worry about that too much, unless you’re in a crazy storm with loads of side wind. In that case get red or black label tent.
Hope this helps buddy!
In summer, which one of Kaitum and Helags is more ventilated and not too hot? I observed that although Kaitum has two windows, the ventilation area seems to be less than that of Helags. High, Helags vents at the very bottom. Who is better for ventilation?
Conversely, if there is a low temperature in winter, will Helags be troubled by the constant blowing of cold wind? Thank you!
It's a very good question and I think the answer is not very straightforward unfortunately. I'd say it depends on your environment / terrain. If there is nothing blocking wind low to the ground (like bushes, rocks etc) then you might get more air flow in the Helags. In colder temperature you might want to block the airflow inside so it still goes inside of the tent, but not on you. You need the airflow for ventilation but using a backpack in the vestibule can help. Some people use fabric on the inner mesh door to block some of the wind on yellow label hilleberg tents. It's a tough choice. If weight is not an issue I think I'd recommend the Kaitum just for more versatility. Hope this helps.
Given that the 3-man version only really accommodates 2 men comfortably, does that mean the 2-man version of the Katium is only really big enough for one man? I am mulling getting the 2-man version of the Katium as a winter tent for one man, and possibly a summer tent for 2. (I assume that the 2-man Helags and 2-man Katium have the same floor plan.)
Yes, 2 people in 2 person tent is very tight. 3 person is great for 2 but also a palace for one. If you want to use it for 2 people as well, that might be a better option as it's only 300g more in the Kaitum and 200g in the Helags. Length wise it's the same, so only a bit wider.
Great video. Be a difficult choice, this.
Thanks mate! Yeah both are great options!
If you plan to tackle the snowy conditions, you choose the 4-season tent, if not, a yellow label is a valid option.
Hi Rob. Looking at these tents for (mostly summer) camping with my daughter. Helags probably makes more sense. But worried about draught with the ventilation so low and only mesh door. Like that on kaitum you can partially close the bottom part and have ventilation higher up. What are your experiences?
Really depends on the weather you expect. The door on the Helags can go down quite far. On a windy night you could put some rocks outside to create a small wall or a backpack on the inside. I’ve seen people make a small piece of fabric to add on the mesh door too. The mesh in itself stops surprisingly a lot of wind too.
So there are ways to manage the wind.
That being said, if you don’t mind the extra weight, I think Kaitum offers better ventilation options with the “window” opening.
Personally, for summer camping I sold the Kaitum and got the Anjan just to save weight.
Also, if you were looking at the two person, consider getting the three person. Just that extra bit of width can make all the difference.
Good luck. Hope this helps ✌🏽
Do you have experience of the anjan-3 as Is am unsure if the anjan or helags is best
Yes had it for a bit. See my other video. It’s a great tent for sure and really liked it but decided that I’m too tall for it and prefer Helags instead.
A bit strange question, which one is best.. Obviously they are for different uses. Kaitum is 4 season tent and helags 3, not for snowy conditions.
(I`ve got a Kaitum 3gt and Allak 2 and I love both. Ventilation through the tent is working in summer as well. )
I think it’s actually the most asked question… the video highlights the differences and hopefully helps find the best option ✌🏽
@@OutdoorPrep Ok, more or less like "which one is more suitable for one's intended use?"
Will the helags not be terrible in high winds with all the wind rushing under the flysheet into the tent?
Sides are ok but many yellow label owners wish there was some door panel like on the other labels to zip off . Some hang a T-shirt
Strategic placement of a backpacking also helps
I wondered whether the catenary curve might make the Helags’ side panels more taut than in the Kaitum and less prone to flapping? In strong wind the end vents on my Nammatj get soaked by rain which drips into the vestibule. I imagine the Helags might be better in snow-free rain storms than the Kaitum?