12:12 YES! THANK YOU! I genuinely started out feeling bad for them. I was like, "oh these poor girls are getting used." But at this point, they've boldly made their beds.
At one point, MHJ had almost succeeded with a plan to purchase a company & place two of NJ's relatives on the board. Rumor has it NJ's families would participate in ownership of the company. However, the plan was exposed.
Yes, Mama Roach is a dis and substitute name. She doesn't want anything picking up the name of the girls group or their former CEO from her videos. It is really hilarious. She goes live early mornings in the US and part of my morning routine and commute to work now. Thanks for connecting some of my daily views if your videos and hers.
The reason her plot failed is because she got exposed before she was ready. An outside company she tried to enlist in her plans told someone at Hybe what she was doing so they audited the company (Ador) they let her be CEO of, and all kinds of shenanigans was exposed. As for the girl group, they believe her lies and have been doing her bidding in myriad ways. Their fandom is also spreading all kinds of lies. I read that some of the fans were responsible for sending wreaths to Hybe when Suga was dealing with scootergate.
Jurnalist you need to watch Hybe boy. He gives you full explanations from the beginning. He does half with time stamp in Korean and then English when all this sh!t started from the beginning.
Well the oldest member of new jeans is like 20 I think and the youngest is like 16 so 😭 I think it’s a mix of things just from the outside looking in. On one end, new jeans met mhj when they were even younger than they are now which makes them even more emotionally attached to her as just an adult figure in their lives. Especially when some of them had to move across the world to have that opportunity and didn’t have their parents around. Mhj is very obviously a manipulator and I think she manipulated the members into having an “us vs them” mindset. On top of that, the parents are in support of mhj too. Idk what their motive is. On one end, they could be getting played by her too and think that they’re doing what’s best for their children. On the other end, they could have a more selfish ulterior motive. At the end of the day, idk. And honestly I just want ts to be over with and go back to new jeans just being the group of cute girls that make fun music😭
I feel that but Macaulay Culkin sued his own parents when they was playing with his career. You gotta assume control or exert it even when you have bonds and faith or you will become a victim to your own loyalty.
as stated a hundred times elsewhere probably, new jeans are the victims AND the perpetrators. they followed mhj because of her manipulation, but they've also shown that they themselves have no agency or desire to change. i mean some of their actions weren't just mhj's doing, they were proper selfish and harmful actions that show that the girls either dont see the bigger picture, or (as i believe as of now) they simply dont care about anyone else anymore and dont care that they're creating chaos all around them. sadly they have crossed the line and are no longer deserving of pity, imo. im not sure they can even turn it around at this point, they've definitely went way too far already, with or without mhj.
@@ajlee2168 oh I definitely agree that two things are true at once in this situation in the sense that they are both victims while also being the perpetrators of their own downfall. Once they did that secret live thing my reaction to everything they’ve done since has just been 🤦🏽♀️. Career wise idek what they would do from here. I truly don’t think they’d have much of a chance as kpop idols again and, if they do, it definitely won’t be at the same level of notoriety. Idek, this whole situation is a damn shame. Hopefully a few years from now, the girls will be able to look back at this time and realize the situation for what it was
Hahaha Jurnalist I can't with you and your example of a dude getting caught cheating by his girlfriend and now trying to bring up all kinds of unrelated crap... hahaha I was laughing for 5 minutes straight! So funny!
Hi Jurn! Mama Roach (MHJ dis name which every ARMY use for a while now) case is a big drama with plot twists... If you want a more structured explanation, go for Hybe Boy. But if you want some super pettiness, watch Seoulite ^^
12:12
YES! THANK YOU! I genuinely started out feeling bad for them. I was like, "oh these poor girls are getting used." But at this point, they've boldly made their beds.
At one point, MHJ had almost succeeded with a plan to purchase a company & place two of NJ's relatives on the board. Rumor has it NJ's families would participate in ownership of the company. However, the plan was exposed.
Yes, Mama Roach is a dis and substitute name. She doesn't want anything picking up the name of the girls group or their former CEO from her videos. It is really hilarious. She goes live early mornings in the US and part of my morning routine and commute to work now. Thanks for connecting some of my daily views if your videos and hers.
These girls families might have been promised a bag so they went along. I can see MHJ cussing them out rn
The reason her plot failed is because she got exposed before she was ready. An outside company she tried to enlist in her plans told someone at Hybe what she was doing so they audited the company (Ador) they let her be CEO of, and all kinds of shenanigans was exposed.
As for the girl group, they believe her lies and have been doing her bidding in myriad ways. Their fandom is also spreading all kinds of lies. I read that some of the fans were responsible for sending wreaths to Hybe when Suga was dealing with scootergate.
I agree with you about new jeans. Smh they’re so short sighted and stupid
Mama Roach is Min Hee-Jin..... very appropriate.
🪳 afraid of being brought up to the light, active in the dark, and just won't stop can't stop looking for scraps
Having a terrible shift, taking a break to catch up with the tea 😂
Head up shoulders back you got this. 😮💨🙏🏾💜
@Jurnalist_ thank you! 💜
Jurnalist you need to watch Hybe boy. He gives you full explanations from the beginning. He does half with time stamp in Korean and then English when all this sh!t started from the beginning.
Well the oldest member of new jeans is like 20 I think and the youngest is like 16 so 😭 I think it’s a mix of things just from the outside looking in. On one end, new jeans met mhj when they were even younger than they are now which makes them even more emotionally attached to her as just an adult figure in their lives. Especially when some of them had to move across the world to have that opportunity and didn’t have their parents around. Mhj is very obviously a manipulator and I think she manipulated the members into having an “us vs them” mindset. On top of that, the parents are in support of mhj too. Idk what their motive is. On one end, they could be getting played by her too and think that they’re doing what’s best for their children. On the other end, they could have a more selfish ulterior motive. At the end of the day, idk. And honestly I just want ts to be over with and go back to new jeans just being the group of cute girls that make fun music😭
I feel that but Macaulay Culkin sued his own parents when they was playing with his career. You gotta assume control or exert it even when you have bonds and faith or you will become a victim to your own loyalty.
as stated a hundred times elsewhere probably, new jeans are the victims AND the perpetrators. they followed mhj because of her manipulation, but they've also shown that they themselves have no agency or desire to change. i mean some of their actions weren't just mhj's doing, they were proper selfish and harmful actions that show that the girls either dont see the bigger picture, or (as i believe as of now) they simply dont care about anyone else anymore and dont care that they're creating chaos all around them. sadly they have crossed the line and are no longer deserving of pity, imo. im not sure they can even turn it around at this point, they've definitely went way too far already, with or without mhj.
@@ajlee2168 oh I definitely agree that two things are true at once in this situation in the sense that they are both victims while also being the perpetrators of their own downfall. Once they did that secret live thing my reaction to everything they’ve done since has just been 🤦🏽♀️. Career wise idek what they would do from here. I truly don’t think they’d have much of a chance as kpop idols again and, if they do, it definitely won’t be at the same level of notoriety. Idek, this whole situation is a damn shame. Hopefully a few years from now, the girls will be able to look back at this time and realize the situation for what it was
Hahaha Jurnalist I can't with you and your example of a dude getting caught cheating by his girlfriend and now trying to bring up all kinds of unrelated crap... hahaha I was laughing for 5 minutes straight! So funny!
Hi Jurn!
Mama Roach (MHJ dis name which every ARMY use for a while now) case is a big drama with plot twists... If you want a more structured explanation, go for Hybe Boy. But if you want some super pettiness, watch Seoulite ^^
I love Seoulite and his talking about MHJ and her "Jezebel Institute of Treachery".
I thought you were beyond this. I guess not.
If there’s more info on this mess or her fuckery i like to stay up to date
Beyond what? Being interested in a topic that has a great effect on the entire Korean music industry?
@Jurnalist_ nice having followed you from the beginning. Take care. Hope this is a good year for your music! ❤️