Far out! Jim is great friend and a fellow insane Van Halen-ologist like myself! This video is really another companion to my very lengthy forum thread that covers Edward’s use of tuning offsets…if you really want to go down the rabbit hole, please check it out here: www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/threads/62695-Van-Halen-tunings-with-Peterson-strobe-tuner-reference
Bought me a StroboClip HD after watching this (love it), and loaded a bunch of your EVH sweeteners into it (thanks for those!). I went with the clip-on, as I can use it on my fiddle as well (it has 9 strings 😂)
Excellent! Glad to hear it…you will not be disappointed. Remember to watch all the Peterson tutorial videos on RUclips and get as familiar with it as you can. You’ll find it very easy to use shortly and you’ll wonder how you lived without it!
@@AllenGarberGuitarFun excellent video. Thank you. I have a question . I'm trying to select the right Peterson for me. I'm a beginner/ intermediate learning to play EVH . I don't work on guitars so do I still need the big bench tuner or are the others like the clip on and pedalboard tuner just as accurate? And can the other models also download these offset tunings from Petersons website?
@@allboutthemojo As a first time user of a strobe tuner, I would recommend that you buy the Peterson StroboStomp HD. Any of the “Strobo-HD” series of Peterson tuners can accept downloads of all of these tuning offsets that I have posted on the Peterson website. The “bench tuner” (the Peterson StroboPLUS HDC) also has a fantastic metronome and is a wonderful device that goes beyond just tuning and you might consider getting one of those eventually, but the StroboStomp HD pedal strobe tuner is the one I typically recommend for first time Peterson users. To learn now about Eddie’s use of tuning offsets, be sure to read through my forum post on the subject: www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/threads/62695-Van-Halen-tunings-with-Peterson-strobe-tuner-reference
Thank you for the video. I got the tuner found your video and downloaded your eruption tuning. Maybe one day if you are looking to make a video you can show how to figure it out. The notes of the songs and cords go by to fast so I can not lock in on an exact note.
If you look at my channel you will see a complete lesson/playthrough series of videos that goes over my transcription of “Eruption” that appeared in the February 2021 issue of Guitar World. In the ‘Description’ section of each video you will find links to a free pdf of the transcription and a link to a Soundslice file that lets you follow my transcription as the original album track plays back at any speed you need. Here is a link to the first video in that series: ruclips.net/video/vs2E_tPiCf4/видео.html Remember to be sure to look in the ‘Description’ section for the link to the pdf of the transcription and the Soundslice file.
Working on it now…should be up on the ‘Trading Post’ shortly. One other tip…I recommend ordering the USB wall charger from Peterson. This way you can charge any of the Strobo HD series strobe tuners without having to plug your tuner into a computer with a USB port. www.petersontuners.com/shop/item/USB-AC-AdapterCharger
@@MarkPritchardGuitar If I were choosing between the two, I’d go for the Strobo Stomp HD. It has a much larger display and larger buttons. The offset for “Somebody Get Me a Doctor” is as follows: 1st string: Eb +27.7 cents 2nd string: Bb +27.9 cents 3rd string: Gb +29.6 cents 4th string: Db +30.0 cents 5th string: Ab +30.0 cents 6th string: Eb +27.7 cents This offset is one of Eddie's tried and true offsets that he returned to using regularly. It is the same offset as the "Women In Love" intro, "Outta Love Again", "Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love" and the live 1977 offset among others.
The StroboPLUS HD is now discontinued, but Peterson continues to support it. I recommend getting the current HDC replacement model, but if you find a good deal on a used Strobo PLUS HD, you can’t go wrong. But honestly you won’t pay much more for a brand new HDC.
@@bmf5150 Yes, the StroboStomp HD is almost as good as the HDC, but the HDC has the metronome and some other cool features. But yes, you can absolutely be sure that the StroboStomp HD is the best pedal tuner on the market.
@@AllenGarberGuitarFun Pleasure man..really considering one of these; my favorite tone is VH2 and specifically Dance the Night Away; how do you feel about that song with regards to tuning?
@@rvk5150 I haven’t found the tunings on that one yet…I haven’t done very many from ‘Van Halen II’ but I can try to work it out and post it on the Peterson website and VHLinks soon!
Glad to do it Hef! It just worked out that Peterson gave me the new model Strobo PLUS HDC to try out and it arrived the day after you asked for this…so I was able to do an unboxing and walk through the whole process just as you asked!
I know it’s a little confusing when you go on the Trading Post…the name is Allen Garber and you should see my preset Van Halen tunings like “GGB” for “Girl Gone Bad”, “ERU” for “Eruption”, “PMA” for “Panama”, “TYW” for “Take Your Whiskey Home”, “HAL” for “Hear About It Later”, “77L” for the 1977 live tuning offset, “ITO” for “I’m the One”, “PCT” for “Push Comes To Shove”, “ONF” for the first album version of “On Fire”, “DDL” for “Drop Dead Legs”, “OUT” for “Outta Love Again”, “RWD” for “Runnin’ With the Devil”, “YRG” for “You Really Got Me” and I’ve posted several other offsets. Hopefully you can find them by my name Allen Garber.
@@monico1964 Ok, I thought you were already a Peterson Strobo HD series tuner user and you were already on the Trading Post section of the Peterson website where you can download all the tuning offsets that I have found directly to your Peterson Strobo HD series tuners as I explain in this video. If you’d like more information on the specifics of the tuning offsets that I have found, you can read through my VHLinks forum thread on the subject here which includes the specific offsets and lots more information on Eddie’s tuning process here: www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/threads/62695-Van-Halen-tunings-with-Peterson-strobe-tuner-reference
Great video. My takeaway is that regardless of sweeteners or offsets, use normal chromatic tuning to set up your guitar if your going to play in that area and 1/2 down if your in that area. Fair assessment? Does the Hz tuning like A-440 or 444 or 432 change this recommendation?
That is essentially correct, except I would avoid changing hertz references. I simply go by cents only and I believe that’s what Eddie did as well. It will make all of the offsets completely void. So if you tune down 1/2 step or if you are in standard tuning, you have to make sure that you set up your guitar and intonate according to a standard chromatic pitch. If you set up and intonate for standard pitch according to the direct +/- 0.00 pitches on each string (E, A, D, G, B and E of course), you can then TUNE your guitar according to whatever offset you choose and it will match the recordings as close as physics will allow. When you have a Peterson Strobo HD series tuner, simply set up and intonate as normal and then you can download any of the many individual Van Halen tuning offsets that I have found directly to your tuner, tune your guitar accordingly and you will then be in tune with whatever that recording’s offset is without having to dial in the cent differences on each individual strings. By setting up a preset for each of these offsets, I’ve done all that work for you. Just follow these instructions, pick an offset for whatever individual recording that you want to be in tune with from my list of offsets on the Peterson website in their ‘User Trading Post’ section, load it on your tuner and then tune up. Once you’ve done this, play along with that recording and you’ll be amazed that you are now a close to perfectly in tune with that recording as is possible within the laws of physics.
Thanks for the review. I’m stuck on deciding between the stroboplus HDC and Strobostomp HD…. I like the look/design and features of the older strobo classic pedal tuner but they’re discontinued. If I choose the strobostomp Hd I would have to buy a pedalboard and other pedals cause one thing leads to another lol. However, i do like the design and features of the stroboplus HDC just wish i could activate it Via footswitch.
I have all three versions of the the Strobo HD series tuners…the HDC, the StroboStomp HDC and the StroboClip HD. I use the HDC at home as a bench tuner, for transcribing tuning offsets at home and using the incredible built-in metronome,.The StroboStomp is for pedalboard and the Clip for acoustic instruments and small acoustic instruments like mandolin. If I were to get only one to start off with, I would get the StroboStomp HD. You can use that on the bench as well as pedalboard. You can download all the offsets from the Peterson website to any of the three, but again I’d start with the StroboStomp HD.
@@AllenGarberGuitarFun thanks for your prompt response. Just the kind of advice I need to finalize my decision. I will go ahead and order the stompHD. Thanks again bud.
I unboxed my HDC and went through the setup process with it. I used my previously registered Strobo Plus HD to demo how one tunes to a preset. I did this to keep the video a little shorter so that the viewer wouldn’t have to watch me load every preset on my HDC. If you look closely at the video, including the title picture, you will see where I used the HDC versus the HD. One way you can easily distinguish the HDC from the discontinued (but still supported) Strobo Plus HD is that the background on the HDC is black and the actual strobe wheels and note names are the parts of the display that have a color (it was the reverse on the HD…it had an orange background and black characters). That character color is fully customizable to any shade of the rainbow on the HDC.
Knowing Peterson, this unit looks dorky, toyish, unprofessional. How will one use it on stage? Cant even use it as a floor or on a rack even! This must be for home or table! Nah!
This is made for the tech bench at home or on the road. Peterson makes several options for different applications. There are industry standard rack units in addition to their well known vintage analog strobe tuners. But most people make use of the Strobo Stomp HD or the Strobo Stomp HD Mini which are designed for pedalboards and smaller on the road workbenches…many of the world’s best technicians for the world’s best players use them. Peterson also makes the very inexpensive but powerful StroboClip HD and HDC models for a clip-on option.
Well ! You have a new sub here from Quebec all because of a Tone-Talk Episode with guest Jim Gaustad !
Far out! Jim is great friend and a fellow insane Van Halen-ologist like myself!
This video is really another companion to my very lengthy forum thread that covers Edward’s use of tuning offsets…if you really want to go down the rabbit hole, please check it out here: www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/threads/62695-Van-Halen-tunings-with-Peterson-strobe-tuner-reference
Bought me a StroboClip HD after watching this (love it), and loaded a bunch of your EVH sweeteners into it (thanks for those!). I went with the clip-on, as I can use it on my fiddle as well (it has 9 strings 😂)
Great to hear!
Great tutorial...I just ordered the HDC today from Sweetwater...190 bucks with free shipping...rock on my man!!!
Excellent! Glad to hear it…you will not be disappointed. Remember to watch all the Peterson tutorial videos on RUclips and get as familiar with it as you can. You’ll find it very easy to use shortly and you’ll wonder how you lived without it!
@@AllenGarberGuitarFun excellent video. Thank you. I have a question . I'm trying to select the right Peterson for me. I'm a beginner/ intermediate learning to play EVH . I don't work on guitars so do I still need the big bench tuner or are the others like the clip on and pedalboard tuner just as accurate? And can the other models also download these offset tunings from Petersons website?
@@allboutthemojo As a first time user of a strobe tuner, I would recommend that you buy the Peterson StroboStomp HD. Any of the “Strobo-HD” series of Peterson tuners can accept downloads of all of these tuning offsets that I have posted on the Peterson website. The “bench tuner” (the Peterson StroboPLUS HDC) also has a fantastic metronome and is a wonderful device that goes beyond just tuning and you might consider getting one of those eventually, but the StroboStomp HD pedal strobe tuner is the one I typically recommend for first time Peterson users. To learn now about Eddie’s use of tuning offsets, be sure to read through my forum post on the subject: www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/threads/62695-Van-Halen-tunings-with-Peterson-strobe-tuner-reference
@@AllenGarberGuitarFun very much appreciate your reply. That helps me in my selection 👍
@@allboutthemojo You are very welcome…I’m always very happy to help!
Thank you for the video. I got the tuner found your video and downloaded your eruption tuning. Maybe one day if you are looking to make a video you can show how to figure it out. The notes of the songs and cords go by to fast so I can not lock in on an exact note.
If you look at my channel you will see a complete lesson/playthrough series of videos that goes over my transcription of “Eruption” that appeared in the February 2021 issue of Guitar World. In the ‘Description’ section of each video you will find links to a free pdf of the transcription and a link to a Soundslice file that lets you follow my transcription as the original album track plays back at any speed you need. Here is a link to the first video in that series: ruclips.net/video/vs2E_tPiCf4/видео.html
Remember to be sure to look in the ‘Description’ section for the link to the pdf of the transcription and the Soundslice file.
Thanks Allen, looking forward to getting SGMAD 😊
Working on it now…should be up on the ‘Trading Post’ shortly. One other tip…I recommend ordering the USB wall charger from Peterson. This way you can charge any of the Strobo HD series strobe tuners without having to plug your tuner into a computer with a USB port. www.petersontuners.com/shop/item/USB-AC-AdapterCharger
@@AllenGarberGuitarFun great thanks, I’m debating whether to get the pedal or the clip on. It will be mainly for at home.
@@MarkPritchardGuitar If I were choosing between the two, I’d go for the Strobo Stomp HD. It has a much larger display and larger buttons.
The offset for “Somebody Get Me a Doctor” is as follows:
1st string: Eb +27.7 cents
2nd string: Bb +27.9 cents
3rd string: Gb +29.6 cents
4th string: Db +30.0 cents
5th string: Ab +30.0 cents
6th string: Eb +27.7 cents
This offset is one of Eddie's tried and true offsets that he returned to using regularly. It is the same offset as the "Women In Love" intro, "Outta Love Again", "Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love" and the live 1977 offset among others.
@@AllenGarberGuitarFun Allen you absolute legend!!! Thank you!
I think I will go for the pedal. Thanks again man, you are very kind.
@@MarkPritchardGuitar Glad to hear it…I’m always happy to help!
Excellent!!thank you Allen !
You are very welcome Stan! I hope I didn’t ramble too much and that what I said made sense and is more help than hinderance!
Allen. Jim Gaustad posted the Fair Warning tone video!!!
That’s great! Thanks for the heads up…Jim is a great guy!
I'm at work but definitely look forward to watching it later.
Hey Allen ,is the strobostomp hd pedal as hood as the stroboplus hdc?
The StroboPLUS HD is now discontinued, but Peterson continues to support it. I recommend getting the current HDC replacement model, but if you find a good deal on a used Strobo PLUS HD, you can’t go wrong. But honestly you won’t pay much more for a brand new HDC.
Sorry I meant the foot witch version pedal ,is it as good as say the hdc ?
@@bmf5150 Yes, the StroboStomp HD is almost as good as the HDC, but the HDC has the metronome and some other cool features. But yes, you can absolutely be sure that the StroboStomp HD is the best pedal tuner on the market.
Thanks Allen.
Thank you for watching! It’s rambling, but hopefully this helps make sense of how to get this all together!
@@AllenGarberGuitarFun Pleasure man..really considering one of these; my favorite tone is VH2 and specifically Dance the Night Away; how do you feel about that song with regards to tuning?
@@rvk5150 I haven’t found the tunings on that one yet…I haven’t done very many from ‘Van Halen II’ but I can try to work it out and post it on the Peterson website and VHLinks soon!
Thank you!!!! Forever Allen Garber!!!
Glad to do it Hef! It just worked out that Peterson gave me the new model Strobo PLUS HDC to try out and it arrived the day after you asked for this…so I was able to do an unboxing and walk through the whole process just as you asked!
The 5150
Show sent me here lol !
Glad to hear it! A great bunch of folks I’m proud to call friends!
Where do I find your tunings, under what name?
I know it’s a little confusing when you go on the Trading Post…the name is Allen Garber and you should see my preset Van Halen tunings like “GGB” for “Girl Gone Bad”, “ERU” for “Eruption”, “PMA” for “Panama”, “TYW” for “Take Your Whiskey Home”, “HAL” for “Hear About It Later”, “77L” for the 1977 live tuning offset, “ITO” for “I’m the One”, “PCT” for “Push Comes To Shove”, “ONF” for the first album version of “On Fire”, “DDL” for “Drop Dead Legs”, “OUT” for “Outta Love Again”, “RWD” for “Runnin’ With the Devil”, “YRG” for “You Really Got Me” and I’ve posted several other offsets. Hopefully you can find them by my name Allen Garber.
Would you be so kind as to provide a link directly to your tunings please
@@monico1964 Ok, I thought you were already a Peterson Strobo HD series tuner user and you were already on the Trading Post section of the Peterson website where you can download all the tuning offsets that I have found directly to your Peterson Strobo HD series tuners as I explain in this video.
If you’d like more information on the specifics of the tuning offsets that I have found, you can read through my VHLinks forum thread on the subject here which includes the specific offsets and lots more information on Eddie’s tuning process here: www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/threads/62695-Van-Halen-tunings-with-Peterson-strobe-tuner-reference
Allen, you mentioned the clip on version. Are we able to store the VH presets on that?
@@johnwmcmahon Yes, on any of the Strobo HD series tuners, which includes the Strobo Clip HD!
Great video. My takeaway is that regardless of sweeteners or offsets, use normal chromatic tuning to set up your guitar if your going to play in that area and 1/2 down if your in that area. Fair assessment?
Does the Hz tuning like A-440 or 444 or 432 change this recommendation?
That is essentially correct, except I would avoid changing hertz references. I simply go by cents only and I believe that’s what Eddie did as well. It will make all of the offsets completely void.
So if you tune down 1/2 step or if you are in standard tuning, you have to make sure that you set up your guitar and intonate according to a standard chromatic pitch. If you set up and intonate for standard pitch according to the direct +/- 0.00 pitches on each string (E, A, D, G, B and E of course), you can then TUNE your guitar according to whatever offset you choose and it will match the recordings as close as physics will allow.
When you have a Peterson Strobo HD series tuner, simply set up and intonate as normal and then you can download any of the many individual Van Halen tuning offsets that I have found directly to your tuner, tune your guitar accordingly and you will then be in tune with whatever that recording’s offset is without having to dial in the cent differences on each individual strings. By setting up a preset for each of these offsets, I’ve done all that work for you. Just follow these instructions, pick an offset for whatever individual recording that you want to be in tune with from my list of offsets on the Peterson website in their ‘User Trading Post’ section, load it on your tuner and then tune up. Once you’ve done this, play along with that recording and you’ll be amazed that you are now a close to perfectly in tune with that recording as is possible within the laws of physics.
@@AllenGarberGuitarFun my hdc just arrived. Can’t wait to use it
@@BSE25 Awesome! Great to hear it!
Thanks for the review. I’m stuck on deciding between the stroboplus HDC and Strobostomp HD….
I like the look/design and features of the older strobo classic pedal tuner but they’re discontinued.
If I choose the strobostomp Hd I would have to buy a pedalboard and other pedals cause one thing leads to another lol. However, i do like the design and features of the stroboplus HDC just wish i could activate it Via footswitch.
I have all three versions of the the Strobo HD series tuners…the HDC, the StroboStomp HDC and the StroboClip HD. I use the HDC at home as a bench tuner, for transcribing tuning offsets at home and using the incredible built-in metronome,.The StroboStomp is for pedalboard and the Clip for acoustic instruments and small acoustic instruments like mandolin. If I were to get only one to start off with, I would get the StroboStomp HD. You can use that on the bench as well as pedalboard. You can download all the offsets from the Peterson website to any of the three, but again I’d start with the StroboStomp HD.
@@AllenGarberGuitarFun thanks for your prompt response. Just the kind of advice I need to finalize my decision. I will go ahead and order the stompHD. Thanks again bud.
@@trd4life302 You won’t be disappointed!
NOT a HDC this is the discontinued HD version
I unboxed my HDC and went through the setup process with it. I used my previously registered Strobo Plus HD to demo how one tunes to a preset. I did this to keep the video a little shorter so that the viewer wouldn’t have to watch me load every preset on my HDC. If you look closely at the video, including the title picture, you will see where I used the HDC versus the HD. One way you can easily distinguish the HDC from the discontinued (but still supported) Strobo Plus HD is that the background on the HDC is black and the actual strobe wheels and note names are the parts of the display that have a color (it was the reverse on the HD…it had an orange background and black characters). That character color is fully customizable to any shade of the rainbow on the HDC.
Knowing Peterson, this unit looks dorky, toyish, unprofessional. How will one use it on stage? Cant even use it as a floor or on a rack even! This must be for home or table! Nah!
This is made for the tech bench at home or on the road. Peterson makes several options for different applications. There are industry standard rack units in addition to their well known vintage analog strobe tuners. But most people make use of the Strobo Stomp HD or the Strobo Stomp HD Mini which are designed for pedalboards and smaller on the road workbenches…many of the world’s best technicians for the world’s best players use them. Peterson also makes the very inexpensive but powerful StroboClip HD and HDC models for a clip-on option.