Correct......Haitian's primary souce of fuel is burning trees and charcoal. Not too much of what is presented here is accurate or helpful. In fact, quite the opposite.
@@WayneTheSeine that was after all. After the French Spanish portugals deutch English etc took the wood to fabric luxurious furnitures, boats etc. Then later on Haitians did the harm with the coal etc
@@Dasonofgod3 Do you have any citations on that....citations showing that King Louis chair's deforested Haiti but not Dominican. So, by your logic or source, if you have one, is, fuel for power, heat and cooking and charcoal production only occurred "after" chairs were made.
The first part of Haitian payment was in lumber. There are historical papers on these. Some parts of what she say is not so right but the Essence is correct about Haiti.
The imperialists should take their CIA Agents, their U.N. GANGS with them. Stop looting the country s natural resources. Let us try it on our own... IMPERIALISM is INCAPABLE of installing peace anywhere.....
The only ones asking for outside “help” is the leaders the west installed when you see headlines like “Haiti requests internal military intervention” the ones “requesting” are the western backed government not the people the people are fighting the gangs themselves through a movement called “bwa kale” they don’t need boots on the ground they want weapons and resources to free the country themselves but then again it’s easier to just trash Haitians no one wants to actually understand what’s going on it’s too complex and takes too long
And forced them to speak creole, killed catholics, and tried to erase their culture for a period of 22 years like a Japanese-Manchurian style, but yeah, they can't be bad lol
@@CristianmrWunodude, any other country would do the same. You, african on that side couldn't defeat the Island from de Spanish, we did the right thing to protect us. This is why you are free today. When you gained, we haitians were so tired of fighting after the long battle of our independence, this is the reason that you gained. Tranquilos, ya pasó 😂, pero, el miedo hacia los haitianos sigue de pie 😂😂😂
You've been told wrong. Haiti did save DR after Spain wanted to come back to reestablish slavery; then, DR called on Haiti to help them out, then Haitians went save DR. That is the fact! Haiti has never been a colonizer, instead creator of liberty worldwide.
The whole argument is based on ignorance and simplifying their history. Like the fact that when they became independent they revolted against their new leader and fought a bloody civil war.
Agree.....utterly sophomoric. Also note the failure to mention the "fact" that the revolutionaries refused to free the slaves on the plantations. They kept them as slaves....go figure.
@@WayneTheSeine yet Louverture is still celebrated as a hero. He did technically free the slaves. He just wanted them to work the plantations for low wages. Which wasn't popular.
What will the Kenya police do different? security in Kenya has been a big issue for decades, if they can't solve these issues in Kenya, how will they do it in other countries?
And also there is the matter of bribe taking by Kenyan policemen..its my hope they dont take those bad manners over there.They should bear in mind that they will entering what is for all intends and purposes an active war zone therefore trying to shake down innocents for cash will be met by very stiff resistance.
The answer is not much. We must remember that many nations have turned down requests for police / peacekeepers because they understand that this is a thankless job that will only result in them being blamed in one way or the other.
How come when they praise the Haitian Revolution, they never mention how in 1822 the Haitian army marched into the eastern side of the island (today known as Dominican Republic) and occupied it for 22 years, until the Dominicans fought for their independence against the Haitians?🧐
@@FM-jo1jh absolutely i am. Because after dominicans won their independence from Haiti, dominicans did NOT march into Puerto Rico or Cuba or Jamaica, prentending to be fellow caribbean brothers, with the real intention of making second class citizens out of the people already living on those other islands.
Not saying that it was the right move, but you're stating this without mentioning what led to a desperate move. Polarizing it only breeds more senseless hate.
Well, if the leader of the country is assassinated by foreign nationals and your history has been one of crippling reparation debts and military invasions and wealth confiscation, then yeah, that hardly seems like Haitians' fault. They didn't ask to be invaded or their wealth stolen.
Latin America failed states are Cuba, Haiti and Venezuela also due to Cuba s humanitarian crisis and issues many people social media, including Cubans in Miami, called it, a fail State in cuba Cuba has the highest feminists murder rate in that country Due to the police corruption in that country US media and international media doesn’t talk about the issues in Cuba. and also Guatemala, Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, Brazil, Argentina, Ecuador, Peru, Venezuela, Bolivia, Mexico, Honduras, Suriname and the United States are corrupt countries with human rights abuses with potential political violence, police brutality and war crimes in the Americas.
Completely insane to say this about a country that was forced to spend 120 years paying back crippling reparations and had multiple other countries meddling in its politics and repeatedly destabilizing it. Literally divorced from reality to pretend like that can just be swept under the rug.
The premise is wrong as is much else. - As late as 1960, Haitian per capita GDP was higher than the DR. -in no other country are current circumstances only ‘understood’ by events that happened more than 200 years ago -painting Haiti as the permanent victim state might feel good to outsiders, but it only reinforces the false premise that Haiti is bound to always fail. Shallow and infantilizing.
"As late as 1960, Haiti's GDP per capita was higher than that of the Dominican Republic." 😅 - is seriously? - That information is more false than the alien of Jaime Maussan .
@@Viajero-1980 You can easily verify this with World Bank data. You can also look at the IADB. The DR is now far ahead of Haiti and it serves as a reminder that bad policy choices and corruption really do matter. Btw, all of the excuses made for Haiti are meaningless to Haitians.
@@worldofdoom995 If you bring up Baby Doc then you are obliged to acknowledge that Haiti was better off not so many years ago. The incomplete and unhelpful story is that outsiders are responsible for all of Haiti’s troubles. There are many in Haiti who want to succeed but they have no chance when they have to pass multiple gang lines to get to work and have the constant threat of being kidnapped.
Totally agree with you. To me, the biggest factor that led Haiti to the great chaos in which it is today really began with the leadership of the Duvalier. From there, the country's government experienced an almost total lack of checks and balances and a massive brain drain. The same issues continue to persist today. Most politicians that came after Duvalier have done little to change the status quo. Some of them even worsened it. There's also the fact that a huge number of people believe they just have to accept the situation as it is. They can't do anything to change it. They even forgot the motto written on their own flag: "L'union fait la force"(Union makes strength).
I would love just one of these videos to explain what proportion of Haitis failure is their own fault? They pretend Haiti would be Monaco if it weren’t for foreign interference
From Haiti's beginning it started to pay for its freedom from France. Also the lack of trading partners. An embargo was created. This slowed and prevented their development from birth.
@@nadinebeckford3340 That's a lie. There were no reparations. Do some research before you post such nonsense. The is Haiti was the richest country in the Western Hemisphere when France controlled it. Today, after 225 years of independence, it is the poorest.
They were forced to cut them down to build literally everything, like homes, furniture and making fuel because they found themselves isolated on the world stage. A large population density means fast depletion of resources when coupled with world isolation.
Me too brother, it’s one island. I have a dream one day that part of the world will come together like good neighbors, and stop the gaslighting to return the reciprocity once extended to the world liberty, democracy, freedom and resources such as gold Haiti gave the world and its very best fighters for a noble cause.
Lack of leaders that are honest and corruption free are a large part of the problem. Not to mention rampant crime and gangs controlling large areas and going unchecked.
I like how they omitted the hatian economic rebound but continue to blame their modern political instability on the west. "France could've forgiven its debt".
@squireson Japan got fire bombed than nuked than occupied. 40 years later, the occupier was worried that japan might caught up to them economically difference here is culture and wise leaders and knowledgeable population.
They also ommited Louverture who freed Haiti was quickly overthrown and a cival war ensued. A lot of their issues also stem from being on a tectonic plate literary slipping under another.
Haiti is a simple story : it's about power & corruption Those who don't have power provoke violence Then if they get into power they impose tyrannical rule and start robbing Why ? All nations have a culture, which is developed over centuries Haitian culture is violence and theft
UPDATE: The Kenyan high court ruled the move to send officers unconstitutional. The police are not mandated to engage in duties outside of Kenya and also their job is to protect and enforce law and order in Kenya only. Only the army can travel overseas for peace keeping missions.
Their mission if they come in Haiti is to protect Slave politicians , the oligarchies's Class and keeping the status quo for the west. Do not believe Kenya will be coming to help Haiti eradicate the gangs. And by the way that Kenya can't even secure their own Country.🎉
What is this, the Walt Disney version? You forgot about the genocide against anyone who looked different than them? What about the way they tried to colonize the Dominican Republic as soon as Hati was free? What about the fact that modern Hati STILL has the second highest instance of modern slavery / human trafficking behind only Mauritania. (According to Wikipedia).
@@bullpup1337 Well they could have started by at the very least discussing the domestic corruption and social cohesion issues that characterize and have characterized Haiti for centuries - the Duvalier dynasty that is actually responsible for the current poverty, institutions and economic trajectory in Haiti, or even how Haiti invaded an brutally occupied and exploited its neighbouring country to the point that Dominicans still have vitriolic hatred for Haitians to this day, which impacts labour and trade possibilities.
Taino is the name of the Native American (Amerindian) tribe that populated Puerto Rico, Cuba, Jamaica, and the island of Hispaniola. They are not the current demographic inhabitants of Haiti .
@jonnyneace8928 the fact that there's basically no tainos in Haiti has nothing to do with France and everything to do with Spain. Spain was the one that reduced the indigenous population on the island by 95% in a few decades Not trying to defend the french, but this has nothing to do with them
@jonnyneace8928 Spain was way worse then the French. You should read more history. For example the Spanish had divided colonial society into almost 100 classes based on minor changes in skin pigmentation, nose shape, and ears. They also developed a special hatchet so when slaves got hands cut in the sugar rollers, they could cut the hand off by the wrist with a flick of their own. To avoid turning off the machine to free the slave. The slave would often be back to work within hours. You seem extremely biased to the French. You are completely wrong on the French Canadian colonial model. They were mostly traders and fur trappers in Canada. They even encouraged marriage with the indigenous to increase the colonial population.
@@amacradGive one shred of proof that he was crucified. Because the Romans said so?? Even though his body was never recovered, when Crassus said he would return to Rome and display him on the city walls? A body never found, even though the Roman soldiers surrounding him knew where he supposedly fell? The tripe from one not-so-great movie has biased and ruined the truth of history. Even the scholar who wrote the "official" Roman accounting of the war (3 centuries later) added in the text, The victor writes history. If anyone who has the barest amount of knowledge studied this further, they would learn that when Spartacus saw the battle tide was turning he and his commanders fighting nearest him rallied as many rebels as they could and fled into the mountainous areas surrounding the Silarus river valley. From there they split into groups and separated. How this is historically accurate is from one of these groups encountering Roman soldiers and a battle taking place. Spartacus and his group successfully escaped though, and disappeared into history. Hopefully he was able to return to his tribe. And the end of his story is only the beginning of the remission of facts about his life and his war by the Romans, Hollywood and Ancient History discussions.
@MagnoliaBelle369 When did I say that Spartacus was crucified? I said that his revolt wasn't successful as thousands of the slaves were crucified, he was betrayed by the pirates, and Crixus led tens of thousands to the death against just one legion. Even if Spartacus himself didn't die (probably he did), the slaves revolt wasn't successful.
@@amacrad Your entire response is literally "how is ending crucified a success". And the comment you responded to was about Spartacus- not his followers. And how was his campaign not a success? For all of the hundreds of millions of people that lived in Antiquity, how many of their names are still spoken today? Because over 2,000 years later, we're still saying his. And for being a "lowly s.lave or foot soldier" (which he wasn't), he was one of the few commanders leading an army of outlaws, s.laves and the poor that defeated Roman commanders and their forces over and over and over again. Spartacus had nothing to do with being betrayed by the pirates. That is just proof of the extraordinary lengths he went to, to protect his people. And he knew the inevitable conclusion to his time in world history. He knew it was always going to end one way. He couldn't save everyone. But he was able to save those with him, and he escaped to live in infamy for the Romans, and in anonymity for the rest of his days. I hope just the specter of his return haunted that city. His only fault ever, was not crossing the Alps and escaping the country when he had the chance. And that was the first; but not the last time Crixus was a problem. But Spartacus stayed to lead and protect. He had something that few people then, and now do; and that's responsibility and loyalty. By sacrificing his immediate freedom, he kept Thousands of people alive for over 3 years. And no other resistance marched through Rome's backyard for years. And for continuing to believe and perpetuating the beign status quo of what is taught and disseminated as world history, a world history that was created by the Romans to save face for not knowing they had a paramilitary-level trained tribal leader and warrior as a captive and has then been repeated for decades by so-called educated people; the truth the world knows defeats all that. First he was just a Thracian and he was of such 'little significance' they had no idea where he was from. When in actuality we know where he was born and lived, what tribe he is from; and the fact he is part of the dynastic line of the Thracian Royal family. And besides not knowing his history, Rome couldn't even decide which story to go with of how he ended up being captured. Was he a runaway s.lave? Was he a basic grunt foot soldier sentenced to gladiator school? Or was he a mercenary captured in battle. Take your pick, because whenever telling his story to their citizens, the Roman leadership sure did. And academics and Hollywood and popular belief continues To This Very Day, to carry this narrative. And as a Warrior and a Leader and one man fighting against all odds, he deserves better than that. He deserves the truth.
THIS IS A SPIRITUAL MATTER Haiti destabilized itself. At its founding , it was dedicated to sat an to the god of de ath. so it wa never "free". compare- Switzerland at its founding was dedicated to Christ with his cross on its flag. Again recently, haiti was re-dedicated, by its president to sat an the god of dea th. where voodoo worship of the god of de ath reigns, just as ALL OVER Africa- SO WHAT DO YOU EXPECT? Haiti is the center of SAT AN WORSHIP, CANNIBALISM, ETC.
Slavery has nothing to do with Haiti's modern deforestation. The Dominican Republic has conservation laws, that's why they do have forests. Also the Haitians were already slaves in Africa and were sold by their own tribal chiefs to Europeans. Haitian slaves probably had a better slave life under Europeans than under there own people. Not justifying it, it's just the reality.
Fr. Colonialism shouldn't have been practiced at all, but the transition from colonized to independent has been a disaster for so many places. It's like giving the controls of a commercial jet liner to a passenger with zero training.
@@krunkle5136 Colonialism has been always happening. Some people call it colonialism, some occupation and others “liberation”. It was always in the human nature to conquer. The strongest wins and the weak complains
@@Piloti. Then the strong get weak while the weak make annoying opinion pieces on the New York Times. Immigration and colonization/liberation are destabilizers of culture. Culture can easily be obtained by it trickling down as people with the means go out and bring back artefacts/religions etc like what happened with Japan.
@@krunkle5136 Africans had been "colonizing" each other for centuries and selling the losers and their wives and children to the Arabic world (7th century) before the dutch started trading weapons for slaves in the 1590's, the Europeans learned that practice from the Africans and were only used to serfdom which itself was like slavery but the people were tied to the land they lived on and could only trade by land by proxy
@@albertoalvarez893crazy how y'all got all that chaos brewing a stone throw away from y'all. 😂 It's like Israel and Gaza, Haiti being Gaza n Dr being Israel
@@squireson I mean .. what punishment? There was none, just ignored them in regards of trade, since there was no reason for the west to trade with them - supply and demand. Also, a country should always be self sufficient for it's basic needs, trade is just for the additional wealth.
Haiti hasnt had a democratically elected gov't since the last CIA coup in 2004. Guess whose been selecting their officials since then? Read a book bruh
Let Haitian diasporas figure out how to fix their own country. Haitians I knew in the US actually gave me a very positive impression. Maybe I am lucky enough but they are far from the "eternal victims of Western Imperialism'" narrative depicted in every single video about Haitian history and politics.
if u think France and the US played no role in the countries demise then you a choosing to ignore the facts. USA literally their last president bc he wasn't their puppet
After more than 200 years of independence you can’t blame colonialism, racism, France, us, un anymore for your own failing and corruption. Countries like Poland Vietnam and the Baltic states all had a harder history than Haiti and they recovered
The core group was created in canada; a group where all the powerful countries come together to destroy Haiti. Google it or more reliable sources on RUclips.
It's not mentioned in this video, but in 2011, WikiLeaks revealed information showing that the Obama administration fought to keep Haitian wages at 31 cents an hour when the Haitian government passed a law raising the minimum wage to 61 cents an hour. American imperialism still exists.
This documentary has so many dark holes, first of all haiti history doesn’t start with columbus arriving it starts with French ocupying western part of the Hispaniola as its name says spanish island, 2nd you should explained that Santo Domingo was founded in 1496 and Saint domingue (french copycat name) in 1625 not until 1659 the french fully settled in the western part of the island, by then Santo Domingo was already a city of 200 years of history
Dont say 'The world messed with Haiti'. It you Europe and US collectively called Western Countries did everything. Every major Conflict in the world is your doing Directly or indirectly.
Yes because the rest of the world is soooooooo Peaceful. Stop blaming others and start take responsibility for your own action and the actions of your country and predecessors!!
I will admit, it's also the mindset that all a nation's problems are inherently the result of the West which dooms development in so many parts of the world. When you so casually point the finger, a countries internal problems become impossible to address because they are always the responsibility of some external boogieman. Even when their is truth to it, if a nation has been independent for over half a century or so and is still endlessly blaming the West for its woes, that's not speaking truth to power, that's a scapegoat by your elites who are robbing you blind.
It is not necessary to investigate the causes of the failure of Haiti’s development in slavery. Slavery unfortunately existed everywhere in North America as in South America, on the continent and on all the islands. Most of these countries, after this historic period of violence, are developed and African-Americans were finally able to benefit in their turn from prosperity. The problem of Haiti lies in permanent political instability, violence and corruption from independence to the present day.
You're right, it's the mentally enslaved Haitians who allowed the neocolonialism or the enemy in. Now they want close. USA, Canada, France, Spain and Dominican Republic. They wanted too long to do that. The core group was created in canada; a group where all the powerful countries come together to destroy Haiti. Google it or more reliable sources on RUclips. IT'S TO TAKE FULL ACCOUNTABILITIES!
Unfortunately the US and France are complicit in many nefarious activities in Haiti. They sponsored a coup against democratically elected president, Jean Bertrand Aristide, for example. The unrest escalated then and they've had serious problems since then
I have a friend from Haiti - someone who I care about dearly. Harvard educated, Canadian passport, fluent in Japanese, English, French, Spanish, Creole. Such a capable guy, but you could feel the chip in the shoulder that an unstable Haiti brought him. As Dominicans thrive, and Haitians are lost, I fear they will channel that frustration into violence, self sabotage.
We call that envy, dominicans are not the reason that haitians are suffering, remember haiti mistake was to invade us so we defend ourselves and defeat the Empire of Faustin-Élie Soulouque it didn't end well for haiti and they were lucky because many dominican generals wanted to follow the haitian army into haiti to push their army into the sea😌
@@enmanuel961 the Dominican Republic, has some history with us. Which, Trujillo, started, and Haitians, were defending themselves. To that other comment. Give the history, fully. Not the part that satisfies you!!!
Are you kidding me,its like dealing with childhood trauma in your adult hood and some say you have managed to overcome trauma because it's been long time ever since 😅😅😅😅
@@ssemandagelson5118By your logic then the Dominican would be far worst than Haitians now as they were colonized exactly 532 years ago and over 200 years before haitians even stepped foot on the island. I'm sure the evil politicians such as Papa Doc and his son 28 year regime have nothing to do with today's crisis.
Haiti has been free of the freedom debt over 80 years….4 generations and it’s only gotten worse?! Also Haitians massacred the whites and mixed race people after their freedom. A horrible start that lead to much of todays suffering….
Yes. Let's ignore the crippling debt they were enforced by France and the US to repay that has been standing over 200 years and still is, and the interruption of internal democratic procedures leading to utterly useless corrupt governments.
@@Rockstarmade224 not very useful ones. What it needs is order and figuring out how its going to sustain itself without global trade because I don't think ships are going to want to dock there anytime soon.
Haiti is the first country to recognise the indepedance of Ellas, my country, i wish the best to this country as it does have the potencial to be a very nice place.
@@Hello-uk5xp you really need to look for us, we are the most historic nation in the entire world and our country is also one of the most beautiful in the world, specially in islands or Zagori.
It's impressive how desperate mainstream media are to excuse the mistakes of people with certain traits - as if those people cannot make mistakes and are never the architects of their own demise. It must be the rest of the world's fault.
"I'm going to blame everyone else for gruesome criminal behavior in this video." "It is other peoples fault, not the leaders of the democracy, gang leaders, etc" Well sister, after 1804, Haitians are responsible for the current condition of Haiti and watching this excuse piece just makes me feel like they should deal with it themselves. If you blame others and make excuses, things will never get better.
Imagine fighting for your Independence then having to pay your former enslaver for your freedom. "How the West destabilized Haiti" - I fixed it for you, DW.
@citywidemike6318 The island was literally inhabited by the dominicans for over two decades since before today's Haitians even stepped foot on the island. Yes, dominicans, as they were known as dominicans since before the french settled on the eastern part. The Dominicans, including the elites and the maroons, were the ones helping slaves that were running away from the French to cross over to santo domingo. Dominicans are the reason why you even have haiti/ayiti as a country name or why you even know it's meaning. Heck, why else do you think haitians historians and any historian in general has to name the dominicans and their colonizers as their sources to speak on the orging on the name and the tainos even Jean Price Mars. I guess you also don't know where the spanish and taino words in Haitian creole came from if your ancestors had to connection or interaction with that language or them other than from the dominicans. You also probably don't know of the first mention of vodou in Saint domingue outside of Dahomey empire or from where Don Pedro founder of the Petwo in vodou was from.
@lulu0724 A Haitian pastor visited our church and gave the reason for the disasters both natural and civil. The shedding of the blood of the innocent through ritual sacrifice, murder and occultism. Numbers 35-33 “’Do not pollute the land where you are. Bloodshed pollutes the land, and atonement cannot be made for the land on which blood has been shed, except by the blood of the one who shed it.".
Based on the comments in this video. DW, I think a longer form video of Haiti may be required. What happened to the native population? Why was the compensation demanded by France so extreme? Where their periods of strong growth? Is Haitis agriculture truly ruined by colonial powers or is it more systemic? Thank you.
I imagine the reparations were "we have stabilized(post French Revolution) and will come curb stomp you into oblivion if you don't compensate us for lost revenue"
So now the inability of Haiti to govern itself is some else’s fault? And here we are in the 21St and when SA sees economic collapse that too be will some one else’s fault. Nothing to do with political corruption and greed.
Maybe I am a dreamer, but I maintain that I believe a government in exile should be formed that is seriously concerned with solving the current problem and at the same time focuses on the future of the island. Furthermore, in collaboration with CARICOM and the OAS, an agreement should be reached to train a force in those different countries, a freedom legion that can later be formed into a liberation army. An army under the government in exile. If necessary, initially with UN observers. There are many Haitians in the country where I live and I have many friends among them. I wish them a country to be proud of.
You know, racism. Isolation and reparations happened in 1803…today and since it’s poor governance. The reparations took 64 years to pay back and was for land that was lost by property owners…not here to debate the amount or the circumstance but that it was completed n 1888. NYT debates “if the money would have stayed in Haitian hands…”. Let’s bring in the poor governance…no, NYT they wouldn’t have doubled or tripled over time. Today’s violence is gang related …and instability in their government…oh and in 1991 it was a military coupe which I responded to…but who brought up the 1843, 1859, 1876, 1888,1908, 1915, 1915, 1946, 1986, and 1988 coupe. Nope…racism…that’s it.
how the colonizer, the WORLD Great powers of the time ( Spain, France, Great Britan, USA) destabilized Haiti. and today you wee the same powers (G7) speak as they were the whole world!!! so yes, the world has some guilt in this situation...
I thought I was the only person in the world that could see the straight line connection between the successful Haitian slave revolt and Haiti's current misery. Thank-you.
Funny how all the people are saying Haiti invaded the DR are leaving out that if Haiti didn’t controlled the entire island for that time the Dominicans would’ve let Spain reclaim the same island Haiti fought hard for to get the Spaniard and French off.
This is the worst and most blatant bs I've heard in awhile. You simply blamed racism and colonialism with no detailed explanation. Point in fact, Haiti had no ships, no system set up to take advantage of their own resources and no revenue during that period. Was there racism during that period? Absolutely! Was it the cause of their woes....No. Every country througjout history had to make their own way, regardless of circumstances. They couldn't afford too blame others for their economic problems. (4:45) - "Because, you know...racism." That is lazy asf! Furthermore, Haiti could've denied payments to France if they chose to; France just had more resources to barter with. That's how economics works; what a misleading argument. I guarantee if Haiti had more economic power at that time, they would have told France to take their "reperations" and shove it. (5:20) - "After independence, Haiti suffered. From Isolation, reperations and poor governance." The people CHOSE to put those people in power, no one forced them. "Opportunistic leaders" has nothing to do with setting up LAWS, legislation, a proper government or checks and balances. I can't take this DW news piece seriously.....I'm done.😑
The league of nations sent almost 1,000 Portuguese volunteers who were wrecked while landing to close to the front. I'm pretty sure they were the first unceremonious attempt at foreign aid.
Why don't the other countries get the same excuses? France has been destabilized and conquered as well. Why doesn't France get to blame their past behavior on what was done to them? This is lowered expectations. No different than someone saying Haitians aren't mentally capable to run their own nation. It should get the same outrage.
When are people going to get fed up with helping those that can’t help themselves? The dodo bird was smarter than them and it went extinct, I know it’s harsh but damn, at this point just let natural selection do its thing.
It’s. Sad it cant govern itself so its ppl suffer but we can’t ignore the fact Haiti has been free for years and still has t taken a step forward. At this point blaming even France is reaching
Blame is justified and very easy but governments (or the lack thereof) are a reflection of the people, Haiti needs to address their problems themselves and they need help to do that.
Well, the fact that there are not trees in Haiti is not because of sugar plantations, its because they are cut down for fuel.
And building materials etc. This is a people who are not that far out of the stone age here...
It's ridiculous that they literally won independence and still blame wxxxx people. ( The logic makes no sense ).
It was a ridiculous point showing the highest mountain areas in the vidéo where Sugar cane was never planted.
China in 30 years made a forest starting from a desert and those people still blame the French for.... trees lmfaoo
@@Hayha12they sold trees to pay of the debt that Ur France force upon them !!
The suggestion that most of the deforestation in haiti occured during french rule is incorrect.
Correct......Haitian's primary souce of fuel is burning trees and charcoal. Not too much of what is presented here is accurate or helpful. In fact, quite the opposite.
As a Haitian I agree
@@WayneTheSeine that was after all. After the French Spanish portugals deutch English etc took the wood to fabric luxurious furnitures, boats etc.
Then later on Haitians did the harm with the coal etc
@@Dasonofgod3 Do you have any citations on that....citations showing that King Louis chair's deforested Haiti but not Dominican. So, by your logic or source, if you have one, is, fuel for power, heat and cooking and charcoal production only occurred "after" chairs were made.
The first part of Haitian payment was in lumber. There are historical papers on these. Some parts of what she say is not so right but the Essence is correct about Haiti.
Dominicans ARE NOT the worst Haiti’s enemy, the Haitians themselves are…..
as a haitian i can confirm
Facts but they don’t want to accept that. They blame someone else
Communism is Haiti's last hope.
True True
As a Haitian, I second that opinion.
Leave us alone, help us, leave us alone, help us...
lol - exactly!
The imperialists should take their CIA Agents, their U.N. GANGS with them. Stop looting the country s natural resources.
Let us try it on our own...
IMPERIALISM is INCAPABLE of installing peace anywhere.....
The only ones asking for outside “help” is the leaders the west installed when you see headlines like “Haiti requests internal military intervention” the ones “requesting” are the western backed government not the people the people are fighting the gangs themselves through a movement called “bwa kale” they don’t need boots on the ground they want weapons and resources to free the country themselves but then again it’s easier to just trash Haitians no one wants to actually understand what’s going on it’s too complex and takes too long
It’s puppets who are placed in control. Isn’t it clear?
You don’t know the shadows of power eh
Isn't like Haiti never invaded the Domincan Republic right? Right?
And forced them to speak creole, killed catholics, and tried to erase their culture for a period of 22 years like a Japanese-Manchurian style, but yeah, they can't be bad lol
@@CristianmrWunodude, any other country would do the same. You, african on that side couldn't defeat the Island from de Spanish, we did the right thing to protect us. This is why you are free today. When you gained, we haitians were so tired of fighting after the long battle of our independence, this is the reason that you gained.
Tranquilos, ya pasó 😂, pero, el miedo hacia los haitianos sigue de pie 😂😂😂
Irrelevant.
@@CristianmrWunoyeah that’s false
You've been told wrong. Haiti did save DR after Spain wanted to come back to reestablish slavery; then, DR called on Haiti to help them out, then Haitians went save DR. That is the fact! Haiti has never been a colonizer, instead creator of liberty worldwide.
You lost me at “you know, racism”. Be more professional, now I can’t stop thinking that this is some middle schooler presentation.
The whole argument is based on ignorance and simplifying their history. Like the fact that when they became independent they revolted against their new leader and fought a bloody civil war.
Agree.....utterly sophomoric. Also note the failure to mention the "fact" that the revolutionaries refused to free the slaves on the plantations. They kept them as slaves....go figure.
@@WayneTheSeine yet Louverture is still celebrated as a hero. He did technically free the slaves. He just wanted them to work the plantations for low wages. Which wasn't popular.
Your right!
@@_Twink I guess it is how you define slavery. When kept by force would meet my definition.
What will the Kenya police do different? security in Kenya has been a big issue for decades, if they can't solve these issues in Kenya, how will they do it in other countries?
And also there is the matter of bribe taking by Kenyan policemen..its my hope they dont take those bad manners over there.They should bear in mind that they will entering what is for all intends and purposes an active war zone therefore trying to shake down innocents for cash will be met by very stiff resistance.
The answer is not much. We must remember that many nations have turned down requests for police / peacekeepers because they understand that this is a thankless job that will only result in them being blamed in one way or the other.
@@tonyluseno2673 unachima na story ya bribes 😂
Well these are small armed gangsters. And they won't be alone right
@@tonyluseno2673 hii jina yako ni ya home bwana, lol
How come when they praise the Haitian Revolution, they never mention how in 1822 the Haitian army marched into the eastern side of the island (today known as Dominican Republic) and occupied it for 22 years, until the Dominicans fought for their independence against the Haitians?🧐
Because that doesn't make them look like righteous freedom fighters they want to paint the origin of Haiti to be
but you are praising the Dominican revolution....?
@@FM-jo1jh absolutely i am. Because after dominicans won their independence from Haiti, dominicans did NOT march into Puerto Rico or Cuba or Jamaica, prentending to be fellow caribbean brothers, with the real intention of making second class citizens out of the people already living on those other islands.
@@elrubio687let them try to do that march today 😎we a different breed if Dominicans now NO MERCY
Not saying that it was the right move, but you're stating this without mentioning what led to a desperate move.
Polarizing it only breeds more senseless hate.
Shocking lack of historical knowledge about the foundation and history of Haiti.
That was no accident by UN forces.
@@herwaldmckay5789get educated before you talk it's embarrassing
"Could it be the Haitians themselves who bear responsibility for their own country? No, it's the entire world except the Haitians who are at fault"
Dominicans are "Haitians" as well and they don't have that same problems.
Well, if the leader of the country is assassinated by foreign nationals and your history has been one of crippling reparation debts and military invasions and wealth confiscation, then yeah, that hardly seems like Haitians' fault. They didn't ask to be invaded or their wealth stolen.
You have zero understanding how America controls the nations in its backyard. Haitians have zero control of their country.
Latin America failed states are Cuba, Haiti and Venezuela also due to Cuba s humanitarian crisis and issues many people social media, including Cubans in Miami, called it, a fail State in cuba Cuba has the highest feminists murder rate in that country Due to the police corruption in that country US media and international media doesn’t talk about the issues in Cuba. and also Guatemala, Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, Brazil, Argentina, Ecuador, Peru, Venezuela, Bolivia, Mexico, Honduras, Suriname and the United States are corrupt countries with human rights abuses with potential political violence, police brutality and war crimes in the Americas.
Completely insane to say this about a country that was forced to spend 120 years paying back crippling reparations and had multiple other countries meddling in its politics and repeatedly destabilizing it. Literally divorced from reality to pretend like that can just be swept under the rug.
The premise is wrong as is much else.
- As late as 1960, Haitian per capita GDP was higher than the DR.
-in no other country are current circumstances only ‘understood’ by events that happened more than 200 years ago
-painting Haiti as the permanent victim state might feel good to outsiders, but it only reinforces the false premise that Haiti is bound to always fail.
Shallow and infantilizing.
"As late as 1960, Haiti's GDP per capita was higher than that of the Dominican Republic." 😅
- is seriously?
- That information is more false than the alien
of Jaime Maussan
.
@@Viajero-1980 You can easily verify this with World Bank data. You can also look at the IADB. The DR is now far ahead of Haiti and it serves as a reminder that bad policy choices and corruption really do matter. Btw, all of the excuses made for Haiti are meaningless to Haitians.
Gonna ignore Papa Doc Baby Doc stripping the country for all its worth?
@@worldofdoom995 If you bring up Baby Doc then you are obliged to acknowledge that Haiti was better off not so many years ago. The incomplete and unhelpful story is that outsiders are responsible for all of Haiti’s troubles. There are many in Haiti who want to succeed but they have no chance when they have to pass multiple gang lines to get to work and have the constant threat of being kidnapped.
Totally agree with you.
To me, the biggest factor that led Haiti to the great chaos in which it is today really began with the leadership of the Duvalier.
From there, the country's government experienced an almost total lack of checks and balances and a massive brain drain.
The same issues continue to persist today. Most politicians that came after Duvalier have done little to change the status quo. Some of them even worsened it.
There's also the fact that a huge number of people believe they just have to accept the situation as it is. They can't do anything to change it.
They even forgot the motto written on their own flag: "L'union fait la force"(Union makes strength).
I would love just one of these videos to explain what proportion of Haitis failure is their own fault? They pretend Haiti would be Monaco if it weren’t for foreign interference
I’d say 75% but What is the core group of Haiti?
From Haiti's beginning it started to pay for its freedom from France. Also the lack of trading partners. An embargo was created. This slowed and prevented their development from birth.
@@nadinebeckford3340conveniently ignored detail
Look This is what happens with out it.
@@nadinebeckford3340 That's a lie. There were no reparations. Do some research before you post such nonsense. The is Haiti was the richest country in the Western Hemisphere when France controlled it. Today, after 225 years of independence, it is the poorest.
Didn't Haiti lose its forests and vegetation much later than that?
They were chopped down in order to grow sugar on plantations.
@@miss_naomi7377 No they cut down all the trees to use for fuel.
They were forced to cut them down to build literally everything, like homes, furniture and making fuel because they found themselves isolated on the world stage. A large population density means fast depletion of resources when coupled with world isolation.
As Dominican I hope that those problems in Haiti ends is the best for all of us.
Cuba can help Haiti.
@@DemosBrutus And who are going to help Cuba?
@@guarocuya3514 Cuba is Haiti's only hope.
@@DemosBrutus No!, haitians themselves are the solution.
Me too brother, it’s one island. I have a dream one day that part of the world will come together like good neighbors, and stop the gaslighting to return the reciprocity once extended to the world liberty, democracy, freedom and resources such as gold Haiti gave the world and its very best fighters for a noble cause.
Lack of leaders that are honest and corruption free are a large part of the problem. Not to mention rampant crime and gangs controlling large areas and going unchecked.
Haitian mafias have their central offices in Luisiana, USA.
There were plenty of good leaders. USA and France have been killing them off for 200 years.
And where is the root cause for that? Poverty and who is to blame? The government.
@@emptyhad2571 A government that is a proxy of France.
They have “leadership” but they are all corrupt BM. This is just another example of BM leadership where the WM is not policing their behaviour.
I like how they omitted the hatian economic rebound but continue to blame their modern political instability on the west. "France could've forgiven its debt".
I like how you brush past the damages done by colonial powers for almost 100 years post colonialism
Look at what they doing in Gaza they never take the blame..
@squireson I wish I could see your down votes "and your point".
@squireson Japan got fire bombed than nuked than occupied. 40 years later, the occupier was worried that japan might caught up to them economically difference here is culture and wise leaders and knowledgeable population.
They also ommited Louverture who freed Haiti was quickly overthrown and a cival war ensued.
A lot of their issues also stem from being on a tectonic plate literary slipping under another.
The soft bigotry of low expectations, well done DW😂
Haiti is a simple story : it's about power & corruption
Those who don't have power provoke violence
Then if they get into power they impose tyrannical rule and start robbing
Why ?
All nations have a culture, which is developed over centuries
Haitian culture is violence and theft
UPDATE: The Kenyan high court ruled the move to send officers unconstitutional. The police are not mandated to engage in duties outside of Kenya and also their job is to protect and enforce law and order in Kenya only. Only the army can travel overseas for peace keeping missions.
Their mission if they come in Haiti is to protect Slave politicians , the oligarchies's Class and keeping the status quo for the west. Do not believe Kenya will be coming to help Haiti eradicate the gangs. And by the way that Kenya can't even secure their own Country.🎉
This isn’t DW’s best work. The tone is unserious. I suspect this will just be chopped up into clips for TikTok and RUclips short reels for children.
"Because you know, racism" Hard hitting well researched journalism, or 12 year old snark. You tell me.
"Who is giving us guns so we use them on each other?".... talk about dodging blame
What is this, the Walt Disney version? You forgot about the genocide against anyone who looked different than them? What about the way they tried to colonize the Dominican Republic as soon as Hati was free? What about the fact that modern Hati STILL has the second highest instance of modern slavery / human trafficking behind only Mauritania. (According to Wikipedia).
they did it to themselves not the world so stop playing victim in 2024 germany is dying and still playing victim
Haiti last president was killed by USA mafia contractors from Miami, USA.
?? what did you smoke this is not about Germany
How is Germany playing the victim? 🤷🏼♂️
@@bullpup1337 Germany, who is talking about Germany?
Who thought this was a good script? To however approved it. Hats off to you, you made the worst most biased piece of DW yet
let me hear your unbiased version then, please
DW produces more severe woke-pandering than this piece.
@@bullpup1337 Well they could have started by at the very least discussing the domestic corruption and social cohesion issues that characterize and have characterized Haiti for centuries - the Duvalier dynasty that is actually responsible for the current poverty, institutions and economic trajectory in Haiti, or even how Haiti invaded an brutally occupied and exploited its neighbouring country to the point that Dominicans still have vitriolic hatred for Haitians to this day, which impacts labour and trade possibilities.
@@serebii666 I agree, but I think it was briefly mentioned? In any case, some of the rest wasnt so bad, at least I learned something new.
I hate to say it but....the truth is VERY woke.
No mention of Haiti occupying dr?
For all intents and purposes, they are part of colonialism and should return to Africa just as Europeans returned from Africa to Europe.
Nunca lo dicen. Nunca el Degüello de Moca pero siempre el Perejil 🧐 Y tu sabe
They don't say it because your dominican history books lied to you
@@ggaston8096and the Haitians books don't 😂😂😂 you guys are funny
Why they should mention it? How is that relevant to the video?
How it’s everyone’s fault but theirs 🤡
Haiti really is like Africa!
It’s not .
@@fjtpersian6566 yeah, its cleaner looooooooooool
majority came from Benin
@@marvinochieng6240Agree 💯 Africa needs to help their brothers sisters 🙏🇧🇸
The fact that you’re comparing a small island country to an entire continent. The small mindedness is showing, something crazy right now 🤔
I love Haitians, great people. Praying for stability and prosperity. From Eritrea 🇪🇷
😂😂😂😂
are they? i know a dominican guy who said they were the worst people on earth.
@@bobmcgee1202That's messed up. I'm the worst person in the world due to my skin tone and where i came from.
@@bobmcgee1202They weren’t, THEY ARE…
@@bobmcgee1202Dominicans wouldn't even have a country if my ancestors didn't liberate the island.
Taino is the name of the Native American (Amerindian) tribe that populated Puerto Rico, Cuba, Jamaica, and the island of Hispaniola.
They are not the current demographic inhabitants of Haiti .
I see you play eu4 😅
Tainos are decendants of the Arawak indians from venezuela and there were other tribe the carib👌
@jonnyneace8928 the fact that there's basically no tainos in Haiti has nothing to do with France and everything to do with Spain. Spain was the one that reduced the indigenous population on the island by 95% in a few decades
Not trying to defend the french, but this has nothing to do with them
You're quite the genius. Tell us the reason as to why
@jonnyneace8928 Spain was way worse then the French. You should read more history. For example the Spanish had divided colonial society into almost 100 classes based on minor changes in skin pigmentation, nose shape, and ears.
They also developed a special hatchet so when slaves got hands cut in the sugar rollers, they could cut the hand off by the wrist with a flick of their own. To avoid turning off the machine to free the slave. The slave would often be back to work within hours.
You seem extremely biased to the French. You are completely wrong on the French Canadian colonial model. They were mostly traders and fur trappers in Canada. They even encouraged marriage with the indigenous to increase the colonial population.
“The first successful slave revolt” 😂😂 what a joke like no one ever heard of Spartacus 😂
... That formed an independent nation.
How is ending crucified a success?
@@amacradGive one shred of proof that he was crucified. Because the Romans said so?? Even though his body was never recovered, when Crassus said he would return to Rome and display him on the city walls? A body never found, even though the Roman soldiers surrounding him knew where he supposedly fell? The tripe from one not-so-great movie has biased and ruined the truth of history.
Even the scholar who wrote the "official" Roman accounting of the war (3 centuries later) added in the text, The victor writes history.
If anyone who has the barest amount of knowledge studied this further, they would learn that when Spartacus saw the battle tide was turning he and his commanders fighting nearest him rallied as many rebels as they could and fled into the mountainous areas surrounding the Silarus river valley. From there they split into groups and separated. How this is historically accurate is from one of these groups encountering Roman soldiers and a battle taking place. Spartacus and his group successfully escaped though, and disappeared into history. Hopefully he was able to return to his tribe.
And the end of his story is only the beginning of the remission of facts about his life and his war by the Romans, Hollywood and Ancient History discussions.
@MagnoliaBelle369 When did I say that Spartacus was crucified? I said that his revolt wasn't successful as thousands of the slaves were crucified, he was betrayed by the pirates, and Crixus led tens of thousands to the death against just one legion. Even if Spartacus himself didn't die (probably he did), the slaves revolt wasn't successful.
@@amacrad Your entire response is literally "how is ending crucified a success". And the comment you responded to was about Spartacus- not his followers.
And how was his campaign not a success? For all of the hundreds of millions of people that lived in Antiquity, how many of their names are still spoken today? Because over 2,000 years later, we're still saying his.
And for being a "lowly s.lave or foot soldier" (which he wasn't), he was one of the few commanders leading an army of outlaws, s.laves and the poor that defeated Roman commanders and their forces over and over and over again.
Spartacus had nothing to do with being betrayed by the pirates. That is just proof of the extraordinary lengths he went to, to protect his people. And he knew the inevitable conclusion to his time in world history. He knew it was always going to end one way. He couldn't save everyone. But he was able to save those with him, and he escaped to live in infamy for the Romans, and in anonymity for the rest of his days.
I hope just the specter of his return haunted that city.
His only fault ever, was not crossing the Alps and escaping the country when he had the chance. And that was the first; but not the last time Crixus was a problem. But Spartacus stayed to lead and protect. He had something that few people then, and now do; and that's responsibility and loyalty. By sacrificing his immediate freedom, he kept Thousands of people alive for over 3 years. And no other resistance marched through Rome's backyard for years.
And for continuing to believe and perpetuating the beign status quo of what is taught and disseminated as world history, a world history that was created by the Romans to save face for not knowing they had a paramilitary-level trained tribal leader and warrior as a captive and has then been repeated for decades by so-called educated people; the truth the world knows defeats all that. First he was just a Thracian and he was of such 'little significance' they had no idea where he was from. When in actuality we know where he was born and lived, what tribe he is from; and the fact he is part of the dynastic line of the Thracian Royal family. And besides not knowing his history, Rome couldn't even decide which story to go with of how he ended up being captured. Was he a runaway s.lave? Was he a basic grunt foot soldier sentenced to gladiator school? Or was he a mercenary captured in battle.
Take your pick, because whenever telling his story to their citizens, the Roman leadership sure did. And academics and Hollywood and popular belief continues To This Very Day, to carry this narrative.
And as a Warrior and a Leader and one man fighting against all odds, he deserves better than that. He deserves the truth.
if the Amish lived there it would be freaking paradise
THIS IS A SPIRITUAL MATTER Haiti destabilized itself. At its founding , it was dedicated to sat an to the god of de ath. so it wa never "free". compare- Switzerland at its founding was dedicated to Christ with his cross on its flag. Again recently, haiti was re-dedicated, by its president to sat an the god of dea th. where voodoo worship of the god of de ath reigns, just as ALL OVER Africa- SO WHAT DO YOU EXPECT? Haiti is the center of SAT AN WORSHIP, CANNIBALISM, ETC.
Slavery has nothing to do with Haiti's modern deforestation. The Dominican Republic has conservation laws, that's why they do have forests. Also the Haitians were already slaves in Africa and were sold by their own tribal chiefs to Europeans. Haitian slaves probably had a better slave life under Europeans than under there own people. Not justifying it, it's just the reality.
Fr. Colonialism shouldn't have been practiced at all, but the transition from colonized to independent has been a disaster for so many places.
It's like giving the controls of a commercial jet liner to a passenger with zero training.
@@krunkle5136 Colonialism has been always happening. Some people call it colonialism, some occupation and others “liberation”. It was always in the human nature to conquer. The strongest wins and the weak complains
@@Piloti. Then the strong get weak while the weak make annoying opinion pieces on the New York Times.
Immigration and colonization/liberation are destabilizers of culture. Culture can easily be obtained by it trickling down as people with the means go out and bring back artefacts/religions etc like what happened with Japan.
@@krunkle5136 Africans had been "colonizing" each other for centuries and selling the losers and their wives and children to the Arabic world (7th century) before the dutch started trading weapons for slaves in the 1590's, the Europeans learned that practice from the Africans and were only used to serfdom which itself was like slavery but the people were tied to the land they lived on and could only trade by land by proxy
You shouldn't make statements on a subject you have no clue about. Everything you have written is completely wrong.
And in the mean time Dominican Republic reinforces it Border with Haiti
two nations on one island but so far apart
Of course, we don't want all that trouble to cross the border. We are not the only island shared by two different countries btw.
We always been a world apart and for our safety we have the RIGHT To protect our nation at any given time
@@albertoalvarez893crazy how y'all got all that chaos brewing a stone throw away from y'all. 😂 It's like Israel and Gaza, Haiti being Gaza n Dr being Israel
@@shinji1264 The comparison is nosense. Situations have nothing in common.
As it should be…
Yeah blame the world..right...😂
What do you mean?
You need a history lesson, my friend. It's quite an amazing story, and then it allllll makes sense
Why ! Do you say blame the world.
@@mirliegharby707 it is sarcasm
Clueless much?
Only the Haitians can save themselves they have no hope on Kenyan police to help them this is a recipe for disaster.
Was the revolt really successful if it ended up like it is today?
No, the West's punishment was effective in that local area.
Louverture quickly lost control and there was a devastating cival war. They seem to conveniently leave that out.
The create war and confusion among they Haiti people so they can rob them the minerals thats worth billions dollas.
@@squireson I mean .. what punishment? There was none, just ignored them in regards of trade, since there was no reason for the west to trade with them - supply and demand.
Also, a country should always be self sufficient for it's basic needs, trade is just for the additional wealth.
damn, so why US fought all those wars then? I would say to make other countries responsible for our self-sufficiency. @@frankkobold
Ah yes. Blame everyone else. Not their own government. That'd be too convenient. 🙄
talking about the things that happened in the past that led up to this countries' demise is not blaming everyone else.
What is the core group of Haiti?
Says the person who probably never stepped foot in Haiti.
@@modern.monkE99 I have actually, cut the visit short after we got robbed in plain daylight. But yes go ahead and assume.
Haiti hasnt had a democratically elected gov't since the last CIA coup in 2004. Guess whose been selecting their officials since then? Read a book bruh
Let Haitian diasporas figure out how to fix their own country.
Haitians I knew in the US actually gave me a very positive impression. Maybe I am lucky enough but they are far from the "eternal victims of Western Imperialism'" narrative depicted in every single video about Haitian history and politics.
@jonnyneace8928 cool story bro
Communism is the best option for Haiti.
Can’t nobody do anything in Haiti without US approval. Stop it
What is the core group of Haiti?
Remember guys blaming others solves 0 problems ..
Yeah true but What is the core group of Haiti?
So Haiti will always be Haiti?
Sounds like you drove the boat of an European ship
Thank you. They been blaming colonists for 500 years now. When are they going to move forward
The trees are not on the Haitian side because they use the trees for cooking and heating water. Deforestation is a big problem in Haitian society
LOL, blame colonialism. They have no one to blame but themselves.
France?
if u think France and the US played no role in the countries demise then you a choosing to ignore the facts. USA literally their last president bc he wasn't their puppet
I learned a lot from the statement, "Because you know, racism." That added a lot of value.
Very childish alright, instantly disliked the video upon hearing
Thank you for your support and business to Haiti
When Haiti asks for help, not only are they not grateful they blame the helpers for problems. Now they are asking for help again. No......
U want to talk about something you clearly do not understanding...nobody is helping can't u see the results!
@@Anacaonavoiceinthewilderness Why should anybody help the ungrateful and incompetent?
After more than 200 years of independence you can’t blame colonialism, racism, France, us, un anymore for your own failing and corruption. Countries like Poland Vietnam and the Baltic states all had a harder history than Haiti and they recovered
Thats a lie.
@@originaldelta Haiti needs 1000 years to recover from colonialism?!
The core group was created in canada; a group where all the powerful countries come together to destroy Haiti. Google it or more reliable sources on RUclips.
Yes, Haiti will Rise!
It's not mentioned in this video, but in 2011, WikiLeaks revealed information showing that the Obama administration fought to keep Haitian wages at 31 cents an hour when the Haitian government passed a law raising the minimum wage to 61 cents an hour. American imperialism still exists.
Keep blame shifting. It always helps
Cool story
So Haiti is a mess, but it's not the Haitians fault. It's everyone else's fault. 🤣
gregory two things can be true at the same time.
@@PHlopheNo, it's only their fault
This documentary has so many dark holes, first of all haiti history doesn’t start with columbus arriving it starts with French ocupying western part of the Hispaniola as its name says spanish island, 2nd you should explained that Santo Domingo was founded in 1496 and Saint domingue (french copycat name) in 1625 not until 1659 the french fully settled in the western part of the island, by then Santo Domingo was already a city of 200 years of history
The history actually started when they took those slaves from their homes in Africa...
So correct !
Here we go. It's someone else's fault... again - right about 10 secs into the video.
as Kenyan hope that those problems come to an end, Haiti is a beautiful country
Haiti needs to hold itself to a higher standard if it wants respect.
True True but What is the core group of Haiti?
@@Eric_Cartman_30Google it! Or let's it's neocolonialism.
And Haitians need to hold themselves to a standard
Why do you keep asking this same question everywhere@@Eric_Cartman_30
Dont say 'The world messed with Haiti'. It you Europe and US collectively called Western Countries did everything. Every major Conflict in the world is your doing Directly or indirectly.
Yes because the rest of the world is soooooooo Peaceful.
Stop blaming others and start take responsibility for your own action and the actions of your country and predecessors!!
Sneed
Thats right, the world is bigger than USA and Europe.
@@warlord95SwedenThe rest of the world is not peaceful thanks to USA and Europe too.
I will admit, it's also the mindset that all a nation's problems are inherently the result of the West which dooms development in so many parts of the world. When you so casually point the finger, a countries internal problems become impossible to address because they are always the responsibility of some external boogieman. Even when their is truth to it, if a nation has been independent for over half a century or so and is still endlessly blaming the West for its woes, that's not speaking truth to power, that's a scapegoat by your elites who are robbing you blind.
Praying for Haiti. 🙏 ❤️
It is not necessary to investigate the causes of the failure of Haiti’s development in slavery. Slavery unfortunately existed everywhere in North America as in South America, on the continent and on all the islands. Most of these countries, after this historic period of violence, are developed and African-Americans were finally able to benefit in their turn from prosperity. The problem of Haiti lies in permanent political instability, violence and corruption from independence to the present day.
You're right, it's the mentally enslaved Haitians who allowed the neocolonialism or the enemy in. Now they want close.
USA, Canada, France, Spain and Dominican Republic. They wanted too long to do that. The core group was created in canada; a group where all the powerful countries come together to destroy Haiti. Google it or more reliable sources on RUclips. IT'S TO TAKE FULL ACCOUNTABILITIES!
Unfortunately the US and France are complicit in many nefarious activities in Haiti. They sponsored a coup against democratically elected president, Jean Bertrand Aristide, for example. The unrest escalated then and they've had serious problems since then
Its always everyone else's fault 🤷♂️
What is the core group of Haiti?
do you saw the video or are just blaming haiti??
Did she really blame the international community for giving money to NGOs
Its not the international communities fault that one group of people can't build successful states.
I have a friend from Haiti - someone who I care about dearly.
Harvard educated, Canadian passport, fluent in Japanese, English, French, Spanish, Creole. Such a capable guy, but you could feel the chip in the shoulder that an unstable Haiti brought him. As Dominicans thrive, and Haitians are lost, I fear they will channel that frustration into violence, self sabotage.
Yes that’s what’s going on
We call that envy, dominicans are not the reason that haitians are suffering, remember haiti mistake was to invade us so we defend ourselves and defeat the Empire of Faustin-Élie Soulouque it didn't end well for haiti and they were lucky because many dominican generals wanted to follow the haitian army into haiti to push their army into the sea😌
Not necessarily!!!!
What does Dominican Republic have to do with it?
@@enmanuel961 the Dominican Republic, has some history with us. Which, Trujillo, started, and Haitians, were defending themselves. To that other comment. Give the history, fully. Not the part that satisfies you!!!
Haiti is what Haiti is. If it is chaos, then that has nothing to do with colonialists from 200 years ago.
Are you kidding me,its like dealing with childhood trauma in your adult hood and some say you have managed to overcome trauma because it's been long time ever since 😅😅😅😅
Colonizers didn't truly leave Haiti...they still controlling, fuel insecurity to steal Haiti resources
The US put Haitian PM with a tweet despite the people protesting
@@ssemandagelson5118By your logic then the Dominican would be far worst than Haitians now as they were colonized exactly 532 years ago and over 200 years before haitians even stepped foot on the island. I'm sure the evil politicians such as Papa Doc and his son 28 year regime have nothing to do with today's crisis.
The rich always take advantage of the poor and when it longer works someone always ends up suffering.
Haiti has been free of the freedom debt over 80 years….4 generations and it’s only gotten worse?! Also Haitians massacred the whites and mixed race people after their freedom. A horrible start that lead to much of todays suffering….
Blame here,there everywhere...How about blame their goverment,
blame their parents,their
cultures, blame hating school cutures..
So you want to choose who to blame lol while saying they shouldn’t blame anything lol ok
Blame HAITI for Haiti’s problems.
It’s always someone else’s fault. Haiti is the eternal victim..
Is easier to blame someone else for your failures then to admit that you are wrong and take full responsibility for
Shh! They don't need that truth, or else they might pick themselves up and become a new power.
talking about the past things that happened to this country caused by other countries is not blaming others. it's simply facts
Yes. Let's ignore the crippling debt they were enforced by France and the US to repay that has been standing over 200 years and still is, and the interruption of internal democratic procedures leading to utterly useless corrupt governments.
@@Rockstarmade224 not very useful ones.
What it needs is order and figuring out how its going to sustain itself without global trade because I don't think ships are going to want to dock there anytime soon.
Corruption and bad leadership, leads to this
Yeah. Kenya is headed the Haiti way.
The worst enemy of haiti is haiti Not Dominican republic .....😕
Europe and especially France could never get over the fact that they were defeated and humiliated by Haiti.
So would you help those who humiliatted you?
Haiti is the first country to recognise the indepedance of Ellas, my country, i wish the best to this country as it does have the potencial to be a very nice place.
Never heard of Ellas 😮
@@Hello-uk5xp you really need to look for us, we are the most historic nation in the entire world and our country is also one of the most beautiful in the world, specially in islands or Zagori.
@@Hello-uk5xp
It’s the Greek name for Greece
@@coyotelong4349we call it Hellas in norway. Seems like rest of the world uses 'greece' in some form or another.
@@SuperMutantSomething grease 🤔
It's impressive how desperate mainstream media are to excuse the mistakes of people with certain traits - as if those people cannot make mistakes and are never the architects of their own demise. It must be the rest of the world's fault.
The world will become Haiti.
Coming sooner that later to a country, city , village near you 😮
Israel can help Haiti.
Victimization virus
"I'm going to blame everyone else for gruesome criminal behavior in this video." "It is other peoples fault, not the leaders of the democracy, gang leaders, etc" Well sister, after 1804, Haitians are responsible for the current condition of Haiti and watching this excuse piece just makes me feel like they should deal with it themselves. If you blame others and make excuses, things will never get better.
Where'd they get the weapons? running a gang isn't free
Yeah always blame others 🤦
I am sure you are the exception and always admit that the fault lies with you, then?
@@bullpup1337 try again 🤡
What is the core group of Haiti?
If you wouldn’t be an an adult person, one might blame your parents for your lack of empathy
@@Eric_Cartman_30 their real nationality is Israelites from the tribe of Levi God first
For the second time: DO NOT DRAW MERIDIAN LINES ON A MAP IF THEY DON'T CONVERGE AT THE POLES.
Not The World's Problem. Being incapable of self-governance is the downfall of the people of Haiti, but you already knew that.
Imagine fighting for your Independence then having to pay your former enslaver for your freedom. "How the West destabilized Haiti" - I fixed it for you, DW.
DW reporting being more left wing than honest, again
Haiti is not an island. Haiti is 1/3 of the island of Hipaniola shared by the prosperous and stable Dominican Republic. Ce domage Ayiti.
First off all that island you speak of belonged to 🇭🇹 first always remember that
@citywidemike6318 The island was literally inhabited by the dominicans for over two decades since before today's Haitians even stepped foot on the island. Yes, dominicans, as they were known as dominicans since before the french settled on the eastern part. The Dominicans, including the elites and the maroons, were the ones helping slaves that were running away from the French to cross over to santo domingo. Dominicans are the reason why you even have haiti/ayiti as a country name or why you even know it's meaning. Heck, why else do you think haitians historians and any historian in general has to name the dominicans and their colonizers as their sources to speak on the orging on the name and the tainos even Jean Price Mars. I guess you also don't know where the spanish and taino words in Haitian creole came from if your ancestors had to connection or interaction with that language or them other than from the dominicans. You also probably don't know of the first mention of vodou in Saint domingue outside of Dahomey empire or from where Don Pedro founder of the Petwo in vodou was from.
Wow
You got all that. From a map?
U smart huh
@@citywidemike6318 and if Haiti had the whole island to themselves it would be as bad as it is in Haiti now
Voodoo is the reason for its current state of affairs.
It can't be. The Dominican ancestors were the first ones to practice vodou on the island, hence "Don Pedro" of petwo, yet they are doing fine.
@lulu0724
A Haitian pastor visited our church and gave the reason for the disasters both natural and civil.
The shedding of the blood of the innocent through ritual sacrifice, murder and occultism.
Numbers 35-33
“’Do not pollute the land where you are. Bloodshed pollutes the land, and atonement cannot be made for the land on which blood has been shed, except by the blood of the one who shed it.".
I have always thought the same thing
1804 they declare an emperor not a republic . And tht was the main problem not rasism thing 😂😂😂😂
Based on the comments in this video. DW, I think a longer form video of Haiti may be required. What happened to the native population? Why was the compensation demanded by France so extreme? Where their periods of strong growth? Is Haitis agriculture truly ruined by colonial powers or is it more systemic?
Thank you.
I imagine the reparations were "we have stabilized(post French Revolution) and will come curb stomp you into oblivion if you don't compensate us for lost revenue"
So now the inability of Haiti to govern itself is some else’s fault? And here we are in the 21St and when SA sees economic collapse that too be will some one else’s fault. Nothing to do with political corruption and greed.
Every county has corruption and greed these are worst place in the world.
Yes because Haiti politics is highly controlled by the CORE group aka USA France Canada Spain Brazil. Nothing can’t change without their permission
@@Eric_Cartman_30 so that explains the mob rule, violence and corruption? Do you remember Papa Doc? You are attempting to defend the indefensible
What is the core group of Haiti?
@@Eric_Cartman_30 you really are a piece of work! You carry on defending the indefensible.
How pathetic DW just blame everything about race. Maybe we should hold the country accountable for its own actions.
Americans and French should take some blame ,America especially helped to prop up dictators like Papa Doc and Baby Doc .
Don't accept responsibility for your own screw ups. Just blame someone else. Anyone else.
What is the core group of Haiti?
Maybe I am a dreamer, but I maintain that I believe a government in exile should be formed that is seriously concerned with solving the current problem and at the same time focuses on the future of the island. Furthermore, in collaboration with CARICOM and the OAS, an agreement should be reached to train a force in those different countries, a freedom legion that can later be formed into a liberation army. An army under the government in exile. If necessary, initially with UN observers. There are many Haitians in the country where I live and I have many friends among them. I wish them a country to be proud of.
This brief paragraph contains more proposals than OAS and it general assemblies.
@@matiasd5216 I acknowledge that but still i believe every proposal must be welcomed.
I mean their last president was assassinated so who would lead that exile government?
Liberation Armies don’t rule nations they just destroy the old regime.
What is the core group of Haiti?
How the world destabilized Haiti ... waiting for the answer...
You know, racism. Isolation and reparations happened in 1803…today and since it’s poor governance. The reparations took 64 years to pay back and was for land that was lost by property owners…not here to debate the amount or the circumstance but that it was completed n 1888. NYT debates “if the money would have stayed in Haitian hands…”. Let’s bring in the poor governance…no, NYT they wouldn’t have doubled or tripled over time. Today’s violence is gang related …and instability in their government…oh and in 1991 it was a military coupe which I responded to…but who brought up the 1843, 1859, 1876, 1888,1908, 1915, 1915, 1946, 1986, and 1988 coupe. Nope…racism…that’s it.
@@jamesappleyard6316 but the World is too big.
What is the core group of Haiti?
how the colonizer, the WORLD Great powers of the time ( Spain, France, Great Britan, USA) destabilized Haiti.
and today you wee the same powers (G7) speak as they were the whole world!!!
so yes, the world has some guilt in this situation...
I thought I was the only person in the world that could see the straight line connection between the successful Haitian slave revolt and Haiti's current misery. Thank-you.
What is the core group of Haiti?
@@Eric_Cartman_30A group where all the powerful countries come together to destroy Haiti. Google it!
I believe the reason that the forest’s are cleared is due to the collection of wood for charcoal. Not sugar production.
The sound effects in this video are just horrible please leave them out. I can not even make out what the reporter is saying
Funny how all the people are saying Haiti invaded the DR are leaving out that if Haiti didn’t controlled the entire island for that time the Dominicans would’ve let Spain reclaim the same island Haiti fought hard for to get the Spaniard and French off.
200+ years Independent blaming colonialism, unbelievable. Europe was destroyed at the end of ww2 rebuilt within 20 years, stop playing the victim card
This is the worst and most blatant bs I've heard in awhile. You simply blamed racism and colonialism with no detailed explanation. Point in fact, Haiti had no ships, no system set up to take advantage of their own resources and no revenue during that period. Was there racism during that period? Absolutely! Was it the cause of their woes....No. Every country througjout history had to make their own way, regardless of circumstances. They couldn't afford too blame others for their economic problems. (4:45) - "Because, you know...racism." That is lazy asf! Furthermore, Haiti could've denied payments to France if they chose to; France just had more resources to barter with. That's how economics works; what a misleading argument. I guarantee if Haiti had more economic power at that time, they would have told France to take their "reperations" and shove it. (5:20) - "After independence, Haiti suffered. From Isolation, reperations and poor governance." The people CHOSE to put those people in power, no one forced them. "Opportunistic leaders" has nothing to do with setting up LAWS, legislation, a proper government or checks and balances. I can't take this DW news piece seriously.....I'm done.😑
Haiti was the first country to send two ships with soldiers to assist Greece in the greco-turkish war. Respect to Haiti 🇭🇹.
The league of nations sent almost 1,000 Portuguese volunteers who were wrecked while landing to close to the front. I'm pretty sure they were the first unceremonious attempt at foreign aid.
To help which side?
The first country to recognize Greek independence. Love to Haiti from Greece 🇭🇹🤜🤛🇬🇷
So you make turkey an enemy, I see!.
Why don't the other countries get the same excuses? France has been destabilized and conquered as well. Why doesn't France get to blame their past behavior on what was done to them? This is lowered expectations. No different than someone saying Haitians aren't mentally capable to run their own nation. It should get the same outrage.
Who to save Haiti? The unsayable answer is USA?!
The world didn't ruin Haiti, they did it to themselves.
I usually would blame the people living there.
Exactly when and for how long was Haiti a republic?
So the international community must change the way it has acted and intended to help Haiti, but God forbid the Haitian ppl change and help themselves.
Wow DW did you fact check any of this before publishing?
I doubt it. This is very badly done. DW geopolitics is usually much better.
When are people going to get fed up with helping those that can’t help themselves? The dodo bird was smarter than them and it went extinct, I know it’s harsh but damn, at this point just let natural selection do its thing.
It’s. Sad it cant govern itself so its ppl suffer but we can’t ignore the fact Haiti has been free for years and still has t taken a step forward. At this point blaming even France is reaching
Remember that Haiti was designed to be poor, educate yourself about Haiti before commenting.
Blame is justified and very easy but governments (or the lack thereof) are a reflection of the people, Haiti needs to address their problems themselves and they need help to do that.