Llevo practicando caligrafia mas de una año y en su video me he dado cuenta de que estaba haciendo todo mal. Logré entender lo que muchos manuales explican de que el movimiento nace del brazo y antebrazo y no de la muñeca y los dedos. Se me ha hecho muy fácil la practica de los trazos que usted propone en el ejercicio. Por favor continue con el curso.
the range in which the wrist can move is small. generally people compensate the wrist movement with pushing pen/pencil around with fingers as well. this is bad due to how the wrist can be stretched out poorly if trying to write fast and finger cramps from having to hold and move pen around. a hybrid i see alot is wrist/arm where people get some mobility from the arm but also make some strokes with the wrist. which i guess is a little better but the tension being put on the wrist is not good. arm/shoulder movement, like in this vid, is the best due to the range/mobility/speed that can be done. the only issue is how difficult it is to learn. moving the pen with only your arm and shoulder, keeping pen lightly and non-moving in hand, is very different from easy wrist movement. but its better in the long run. my handwriting is so bad with the normal wrist/finger holding stuff cus my fingers cramp up easy. i guess for some it doesnt, like they write really slowly to compensate, but since i write in cursive already im learning to write with my arm/shoulder and its helped my hand not get really tired while i go ham while i take notes in class ;P
Hoang, your video series have been a tremendous resource in learning Spencerian Script. I find these exercises videos very helpful. Thank you very much for posting them, and I hope you upload more soon.
Yaneth Pereira Condori Tal vez porque es el idioma universal, y la mayoria del contenido esta en ese idioma, el titulo esta en ingles, el hombre que hace este video es chino, quiere que lo haga en chino, o en ingles?? Es mas facil que usted aprenda ingles, que él aprenda español
Very helpful demonstration. I've been trying to do these exercises based on information from a number of books. I've been so frustrated! But, here I can see that you have an extremely light tough (something I'm still trying to develop) and you aren't moving quite as quickly as I thought I needed to. I love calligraphy, but at the moment, I'm just working on my cursive writing. I've had an extremely difficult time learning how to hold my pen "gently," something you have probably never experienced!
Práctico caligrafía para mejorar mi letra pues soy zurdo y de pequeño me obligaron a escribir con la derecha,mano que nunca supe dominar y eso hace que cambie el tamaño de la letra,suba o baje del renglón gracias a estas prácticas he superado mi problema!!
Hi! will doing these exercises be significantly different if I practice with a straight nib holder versus if I practice with an oblique pen holder? Thanks and a happy new year! :)
Qué lindo lo hace! Por ser zurda, no creo que me quede igual. Los he hecho desde niña y creo que la técnica que me enseñaron no fué la indicada para mí.
First off, thank you for the video and sharing your excercises. What I want to know is: how much thruth is there to the statement that one should not move the fingers or the wrist while writing and instead focus on moving only the arm? And what would you say is the best grip for the pen...?
The Palmer Method (which this video very much seems to be based on) relies on arm movement rather than the fingers. It's definitely worth a try. Other schools might teach otherwise, but this one does not rely on finger movement. Therefore there is 100% truth in what you are referring to as long as you mean specifically the Palmer Method. What I did notice though, that the writer has his index finger on top of the pen, and I - as a practitioner of eastern calligraphy - am very much convinced that it is a remnant of the standard brush holding technique in Chinese Calligraphy. For pens, I think it's better to place the fingers more on the sides of the pen, rather than on top.
Ey Awsome exercises!. Can I do this with a regular Ballpoint?? (Here in my country, that kind of tools are expensive) Or is neccesary do it with a Pen/Dip? Thanks for your content!
Congratulation for your video Dao, I have been looking for a video that could show to me how to correct hold a pen and make Palmer's exercicies.. will practice a lot. After have extensively done this one, what would you suggest to do next?
I've been practicing your exercises and it's so difficult ! I'm not used to move my arm & shoulder when writing, so I think I'll need months to do it as you do !!!! 😔
Hola, Porque no haces un video en el que se vea de manera clara como es el punto de apoyo del brazo y explicas con que parte del brazo se produce el movimiento. La forma correcta de coger el lápiz y los puntos de apoyo de la mano. Gracias.
Empieza mostrando como agarrar el lápiz, como se mueve el pulso de la muñeca y la inclinación del lápiz respecto al papel, la función del brazo y asi no cansarse para hacer muchisisimos ejercicios..............
Is there some way for ADHD moderate fine motor skill impairment? My handwriting is ok, just doesn't look skilled in any way, but I want it too be. I thought that I can learn it but seems that I never have realised how impaired I am physically for the super fine movements. I am trying these exercises now and individual letters (maybe the ultra repetitive and ground-basic movements will built something for me), while I spent doing 40 hours of one word writing over and over and printed worksheets with different fonts, but it did't gave any result, my movements and letters remained looking shaky, without enough precision
i have adhd too. cursive is the way tovgo for adhd and learning to type will be even better. one way to achieve good handwriting is just writing a lot and doing a lot of math and algebra, as the need of legibility automatically forces one to keep required distance between symbols and letters and maintain proper spacing not only between letters but also between two equation lines. and of course chose science stream.
I don't have spacing poblems. It seems that I was using wrong movements, I realised it after I wrote it. After additional 30 hours of new training it starts to look exeptionaly good im some words. Though I have a moderate adhd I don't see any impairment now.
Constantine Vorobyov I know this is old, but if you’re still working on your handwriting and having trouble with precision, perhaps you are relying too much on your fingers and not your forearm. The fingers actually don’t have any muscles - they are controlled only by tendons. But most of the writing people do is with their fingers, which leads to little control and cramping. This kind of handwriting requires you to keep your fingers still and let the forearm do all the work (the wrist should not touch the page at all). The forearm, unlike the fingers, has a very large muscle, which allows for much control and quick movements. That’s why the oval exercises are nice, because they force you to try to write using only your forearm, or else the end result won’t be pretty or consistent. It takes some getting used to, but once you develop the muscle, everything else follows. You shouldn’t even attempt to write letters or words until you’ve mastered the basics in this video. Proper grip is also very important!
Busca información en el Método Palmer de escritura comercial. El tema se trata en las paginas 11 y 12 donde hablan del movimiento muscular. Palmer recomienda que NO se usen los músculos de los dedos, ni los de la muñeca, ni los del antebrazo. Se usan los músculos delante del codo y desde el hombro. El brazo entero descansa sobre la parte mas ancha del antebrazo y no se apoya ni la muñeca ni el canto de la mano; solo los dedos meñique y anular sirven de apoyo al momento de trasladarse sobre el papel
This method was originally developed for fountain pens as they do not require any downward pressure, and you can guide the pen more gently and swiftly on the paper. Regular ball-point pens, which need to be pushed down on the paper - are likely to hinder free lateral movement of the hand, thus drag the writer down. A fountain pen is recommended - you can grab one for as cheap as 5 USD. Your hand will thank you. ;)
+yiyisidora I think what Devin means is the motions done in calligraphy come from the movement of the shoulder, while the actual hand and wrist itself remains stiff. Still incredibly impressive though.
Llevo practicando caligrafia mas de una año y en su video me he dado cuenta de que estaba haciendo todo mal. Logré entender lo que muchos manuales explican de que el movimiento nace del brazo y antebrazo y no de la muñeca y los dedos. Se me ha hecho muy fácil la practica de los trazos que usted propone en el ejercicio. Por favor continue con el curso.
Algún otro consejo?
@@knowhow567 Disfrutar las prácticas. Comprar una(s) buena pluma estilográfica es una muy buena forma de escribir.
This has long been my problem too. Basic drills are so important and cannot be skipped for people like us. Years of frustration for no reason 😂
damn, finally found a video where someone is actually using their arm/shoulder instead of wrist.
jvemPiRe14 what's wrong with using the wrist? I have terrible writing trying to start new and better habits this is my first video in that direction
the range in which the wrist can move is small. generally people compensate the wrist movement with pushing pen/pencil around with fingers as well. this is bad due to how the wrist can be stretched out poorly if trying to write fast and finger cramps from having to hold and move pen around.
a hybrid i see alot is wrist/arm where people get some mobility from the arm but also make some strokes with the wrist. which i guess is a little better but the tension being put on the wrist is not good.
arm/shoulder movement, like in this vid, is the best due to the range/mobility/speed that can be done. the only issue is how difficult it is to learn. moving the pen with only your arm and shoulder, keeping pen lightly and non-moving in hand, is very different from easy wrist movement. but its better in the long run.
my handwriting is so bad with the normal wrist/finger holding stuff cus my fingers cramp up easy. i guess for some it doesnt, like they write really slowly to compensate, but since i write in cursive already im learning to write with my arm/shoulder and its helped my hand not get really tired while i go ham while i take notes in class ;P
jvemPiRe14 thank you very much I never really looked at it that way and it explains a lot I shall put to work this new knowledge.
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Beautiful demonstration
Amazing! Good precision. Beautiful work! Congrats from Brazil!
Hoang, your video series have been a tremendous resource in learning Spencerian Script. I find these exercises videos very helpful. Thank you very much for posting them, and I hope you upload more soon.
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hay es enserio x k todos hablan en otros idiomas ¿? menos en español
Yaneth Pereira Condori Tal vez porque es el idioma universal, y la mayoria del contenido esta en ese idioma, el titulo esta en ingles, el hombre que hace este video es chino, quiere que lo haga en chino, o en ingles?? Es mas facil que usted aprenda ingles, que él aprenda español
Very helpful thank you, beautiful demonstration.
Thank you very much I like your handwriting style
Very helpful demonstration. I've been trying to do these exercises based on information from a number of books. I've been so frustrated! But, here I can see that you have an extremely light tough (something I'm still trying to develop) and you aren't moving quite as quickly as I thought I needed to.
I love calligraphy, but at the moment, I'm just working on my cursive writing. I've had an extremely difficult time learning how to hold my pen "gently," something you have probably never experienced!
For some reason, you feel as if the pen works with you rather than on it's own when you have the soft grip
That's so awesome, great control and precision, wish I had that much control.
which method do you think's better? use the whole arm like you or just the wrist?
These drills helps in which script?
Fantastic, Hoang! Great control.
Hi thanks. Can I use pencil. Anjali
Nice. Isn't that a fountain pen? How do you relate that with a dip pen? And isn't it better to do this with a dip pen? Thanks
Thank You for posting....very helpful
Práctico caligrafía para mejorar mi letra pues soy zurdo y de pequeño me obligaron a escribir con la derecha,mano que nunca supe dominar y eso hace que cambie el tamaño de la letra,suba o baje del renglón gracias a estas prácticas he superado mi problema!!
When you do this practice, should I be looking for something? Consistency in spacing and shape of the loops?
Hi! will doing these exercises be significantly different if I practice with a straight nib holder versus if I practice with an oblique pen holder? Thanks and a happy new year! :)
Do you move only your wrist, forarm or whole arm?
Really excellent video, I am trying to teach myself to use the correct muscles to write with rather than fingers and this works for me.
Is this suitable for cursive or only calligraphy writing?!
does the slant matter or does it only matter that you're loosenkng up/arm movement?
This'd help for regular drawing too wouldn't it?
Qué lindo lo hace!
Por ser zurda, no creo que me quede igual.
Los he hecho desde niña y creo que la técnica que me enseñaron no fué la indicada para mí.
anything about pen you're using? what sort of fountain pen is best for this practice and writing in general?
Please tell me sir i want to learn how to paper position how can i write with arm
Anh ơi tay e cầm bút tay run nên chữ ko đều nét nên chữ xấu, có cách nào khắc phục ko anh.
anh ơi anh đừng có tay để di chuyển bút hay dùng bả vai để di chuyển bút
Dios este vídeo me hizo recordar mi infancia hasta llore😀 siempre los hacia en la escuela era mi entretenimiento ya que aun no hecistian celulares.
Like por el hecistian
bao nhiêu hy vọng viết lách của em tan biến hết khi em xem cái clip này của anh :'(
What type of pen to use for this? (or pencil?) Thanks!
Tập thế này để làm gì vậy ạ?
do u count them
Excelente ejercicio para ejercitar el pulso. Dios te bendiga por compartir.!!!
First off, thank you for the video and sharing your excercises.
What I want to know is: how much thruth is there to the statement that one should not move the fingers or the wrist while writing and instead focus on moving only the arm? And what would you say is the best grip for the pen...?
The Palmer Method (which this video very much seems to be based on) relies on arm movement rather than the fingers. It's definitely worth a try. Other schools might teach otherwise, but this one does not rely on finger movement. Therefore there is 100% truth in what you are referring to as long as you mean specifically the Palmer Method. What I did notice though, that the writer has his index finger on top of the pen, and I - as a practitioner of eastern calligraphy - am very much convinced that it is a remnant of the standard brush holding technique in Chinese Calligraphy. For pens, I think it's better to place the fingers more on the sides of the pen, rather than on top.
You are clearly using a fountain oen. Which one and which nib please. Love your videos
Judi Hopewell it's a Pilot Desk with an extra fine nib. I'd suggest the Pilot Penmanship, same maker, same nib size, comfortable grip and cheaper.
how many minutes or hour to practice ?
Hi, is it ok if I make them as an overwriter? Thanks for the video!
A ơi e sắp thi đh mà Tốc độ viết của e chậm quá .a có cách nào rèn tăng tốc độ viết ko a
Thank you so much for sharing.I improved my handrighting 80 parsent.
What is your secret? Doing great job - - -how can I do this?? Bo,,, thanks
Ey Awsome exercises!. Can I do this with a regular Ballpoint?? (Here in my country, that kind of tools are expensive)
Or is neccesary do it with a Pen/Dip?
Thanks for your content!
Método Palmer. El movimiento está en el antebrazo y no en la muñeca y dedos.
This is wonderful.
So nice hand weighting improve style
Congratulation for your video Dao, I have been looking for a video that could show to me how to correct hold a pen and make Palmer's exercicies.. will practice a lot. After have extensively done this one, what would you suggest to do next?
Does any of your finger touch the paper, the pinky one perhaps?
Yes the last finger is touching paper lightly
@@daohuyhoangcalligraphy I see, thanks for the info!
These are very similar to the kinds of warm ups we would do before life drawing class began.
I've been practicing your exercises and it's so difficult ! I'm not used to move my arm & shoulder when writing, so I think I'll need months to do it as you do !!!! 😔
Hola, Porque no haces un video en el que se vea de manera clara como es el punto de apoyo del brazo y explicas con que parte del brazo se produce el movimiento. La forma correcta de coger el lápiz y los puntos de apoyo de la mano. Gracias.
Luis Guillermo Pérez Mejía paul Antonio tiene vídeos sobre eso o si no puedes consultar los libros de spencer
can i do it with fountain pen
did you create those ovals pivoting from your elbow?
Hi there, thanks for nice video. What's name of this song? :)
Mozart's Flute and Harp Concerto in C major...
Many thanks ^^
Very helpful- thank you.
I'm assuming that this exercise would be good with learning the palmer method of handwriting..
Yes, these are helpful for Business Cúive and Spencerian
Empieza mostrando como agarrar el lápiz, como se mueve el pulso de la muñeca y la inclinación del lápiz respecto al papel, la función del brazo y asi no cansarse para hacer muchisisimos ejercicios..............
carmen mendoza lol
what a tough guy! Twink
Great way to practice! Should I hold my pen as usual or I need to hold like this?
Nice..... I'm definitely practise
Thank you! What pen/nib are you using?
That's Pilot Desk fountain pen.
+Dao Huy Hoang Thank you!
Thank you maybe I will finally have good handwriting after this
Hi There! Do you Know if the Platinum Desk pen has the same quality as Pilot Desk?
great way to improve
Is there some way for ADHD moderate fine motor skill impairment? My handwriting is ok, just doesn't look skilled in any way, but I want it too be. I thought that I can learn it but seems that I never have realised how impaired I am physically for the super fine movements. I am trying these exercises now and individual letters (maybe the ultra repetitive and ground-basic movements will built something for me), while I spent doing 40 hours of one word writing over and over and printed worksheets with different fonts, but it did't gave any result, my movements and letters remained looking shaky, without enough precision
i have adhd too. cursive is the way tovgo for adhd and learning to type will be even better. one way to achieve good handwriting is just writing a lot and doing a lot of math and algebra, as the need of legibility automatically forces one to keep required distance between symbols and letters and maintain proper spacing not only between letters but also between two equation lines. and of course chose science stream.
I don't have spacing poblems. It seems that I was using wrong movements, I realised it after I wrote it. After additional 30 hours of new training it starts to look exeptionaly good im some words. Though I have a moderate adhd I don't see any impairment now.
Constantine Vorobyov I know this is old, but if you’re still working on your handwriting and having trouble with precision, perhaps you are relying too much on your fingers and not your forearm. The fingers actually don’t have any muscles - they are controlled only by tendons. But most of the writing people do is with their fingers, which leads to little control and cramping.
This kind of handwriting requires you to keep your fingers still and let the forearm do all the work (the wrist should not touch the page at all). The forearm, unlike the fingers, has a very large muscle, which allows for much control and quick movements. That’s why the oval exercises are nice, because they force you to try to write using only your forearm, or else the end result won’t be pretty or consistent. It takes some getting used to, but once you develop the muscle, everything else follows. You shouldn’t even attempt to write letters or words until you’ve mastered the basics in this video. Proper grip is also very important!
It's a shame that I can't write with my whole arm. As a lefty I end up holding the pen above the writing line so I almost have to use my wrist.
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Use this kind of dip pen .
¿se mueve el brazo o la muñeca?
Brazo, ni muñeca ni dedos.
Busca información en el Método Palmer de escritura comercial. El tema se trata en las paginas 11 y 12 donde hablan del movimiento muscular. Palmer recomienda que NO se usen los músculos de los dedos, ni los de la muñeca, ni los del antebrazo. Se usan los músculos delante del codo y desde el hombro. El brazo entero descansa sobre la parte mas ancha del antebrazo y no se apoya ni la muñeca ni el canto de la mano; solo los dedos meñique y anular sirven de apoyo al momento de trasladarse sobre el papel
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do you recommend practice with fountain pen or regular pen is ok?
This method was originally developed for fountain pens as they do not require any downward pressure, and you can guide the pen more gently and swiftly on the paper. Regular ball-point pens, which need to be pushed down on the paper - are likely to hinder free lateral movement of the hand, thus drag the writer down. A fountain pen is recommended - you can grab one for as cheap as 5 USD. Your hand will thank you. ;)
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Soy de RD y desde niños estenido de disidencia en la escritura espero mejoral mi escrituras bueno Días
yo estoy k me mato haciendo y no lo logro pero no me rendire , seria mejor si explicara con mas profundidad
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Any music was perfect.
Thank you!!!
the little things that matter
no se ingles
This is impressive as fuck and its just hand control
+yiyisidora It's actually shoulder control.
+Devin Chaves shoulder?
+yiyisidora I think what Devin means is the motions done in calligraphy come from the movement of the shoulder, while the actual hand and wrist itself remains stiff. Still incredibly impressive though.
+TammiBloo oh okay thanks!
en español x fa , no entender inglish o english
Thanks beautiful
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Very helpful thank you
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