This is amazing. Ed is considered my 2nd cousin. We’re related through the Quinlan family. Sadly, I don’t know much about the history through my maternal lineage. But thank you!
This is my family, James and Bridget. Martin, Thomas's older brother, was an engineer at Cheat Summit Fort for the Ohio 24th. He was wounded at the battle. Martin's son John is my grandfather's grandfather.
I had an uncle in Ohio who took a job working in a coal mine. After his first day his boss came to him with some paperwork and told him, you now qualify for "Black Lung Insurance" my uncle told him "You can keep this job."
Doing my family history, many of my relatives were killed in those mines.My Uncle drove a truck, and my father was a breaker boy, picking out the slate.Both started working at 9 years old. My Grandfather was also a coal miner.
Like me Ed is Youngstown Ohio bread and born and my Welsh family has almost the same story my great grandfather was a miner in Wales and was a miner in Ohio after moving to the States with his wife and three oldest children,( my grandfather was one of the four more born here ) and my grandfather worked as a pipefitter at the U.S. Steel works as did my Uncle's and I was a steel worker my self at what was at the time called Youngstown Steel Door .
Having 7 children and having to escape to a new world, to survive, they had to be tough. It’s amazing they were able to find any information in his family. The Language barrier alone would have been a challenge.
Not necessarily. Would depend what part of Ireland they came from. The Primary School system which forced everyone to get their education in English was only established in 1831.
Clicked on his video cuz of his Irish last name and so I figured maybe his family’s history could look similar to mine. I saw Youngstown and was like “HA ok yeah probably a lot more similar then not” being that my dads whole family is from Youngstown! Really makes me want to dig more into my own family
Can confirm. Went into a mine in the UK. Portions of the mine were set up to replicate the Victorian era and we got to experience it for about 30 mins. Wild.
It did NOT “become known as the great potato famine”, it’s known as an Gorta Mór or The Great Hunger. The blight only affected the subjugated Irish, the English plantations and estates had a bumper harvest, food exports continued as the Irish natives suffered. There was no “famine”. It’s insulting to the memory of our dead and banished to call it so.
I had heard that poorer people had access to a line of potato that yielded harvest fast but was possessed of less heartiness, subject to botanical pathogens. The potatoes (as I understand) were less nutritionally beneficial and composed of more water and less vitamins than other strains of tuber. That along with the predatory grasp of the british, sealed the fate of many
That's still a famine. Famine doesn't necessarily imply a natural scarcity of food, it can be caused by governmental policy as well. The famines that happen in Africa today aren't because there isn't enough food, it's because of government policy and conflict. Government policy killed millions through famine in China and the Soviet Union in the 20th century. Most notable famines are caused by humans, not by nature alone.
I began working in a steel mill on its railroad at the age of 17. One of my great-grandfathers, an Irish immigrant, joined the US army in 1860 at a young age.
My dad's paternal side were coalminers in Lancashire and it was common for 17 year old boys to be working in the coalpits for several years already. My gt-grandfather had 2 uncles age 13 and 11 listed as coalminers in a 1851 census. His own father probably started working in the mines by the age of 10 a couple years later.. Some boys started even younger 6 or 7 they would be sitting in a cold pitch black small cramped area for 12 or more hours with no source of light waiting for the sound of an approaching wagon full of coal pushed by kids not much older..imagine how terrified these kids must have been. We have it so soft compared to our ancestors. @@rivkabornstein
Really important point here--"brother killed brother" wasn't a metaphor or an exaggeration. That is the reality of not only The Civil War in America, but of wars like that before and since then. If that comes back to the US, it will be the reality and it won't go how anyone thinks.
Coal mining is one of the hardest jobs in history. I bet his grandmother, and so many other women, had the anxious ess and urge to pour out her motherly love and care to any other young man like her sons during the war. Likely hoping someone else was doing the same for her sons if needed.
My Uncle Jessie, used to raz my Aunt Cass, that if her Dad, and brothers would have brought home all those freed slaves. The conditions in the mines would have gone way up! She said, when they were free, they'ld work for just a day, and then run off to parts unknown. She'ld say, they fall asleep driving a bus now. How much coal do you think they would have ever shoveled then, in 16 hours?? lol!
They were not traitors, they simply did what their hearts told them to. Nobody had an actual right to the land but the natives but here we are. Humans don't own this earth.
America's history is not pretty. Her history does however, shape her wild heart. Every Revolutionary, Rebel, Native Warrior gave their blood to her Wild Heart. Every nurse, doctor and battlefield medic that ever got a wounded soldier home healed a scar on her wild heart. No, America's history is not pretty, but it is Proud and her Heart is still wild..
Compared to black people? Absolutely they did -they could live where they wanted, obtain citizenship, vote, own property, serve on a jury and testify in court. Blacks could do none of those things. And "Lil Dave1964" ought to stop parroting the myth of Irish slaves -they were no "Irish slaves" (interested readers may wish to Google the "Irish Slaves Myth).
I can't take anyone from Harvard seriously. After giving George W Bush a masters degree, then putting up a plaque of your first native American female professor,,, named Elizabeth Warren. I'd think better of the show if the host graduate from ITT tech
This is amazing. Ed is considered my 2nd cousin. We’re related through the Quinlan family. Sadly, I don’t know much about the history through my maternal lineage. But thank you!
I was born in Youngstown.
This is my family, James and Bridget. Martin, Thomas's older brother, was an engineer at Cheat Summit Fort for the Ohio 24th. He was wounded at the battle. Martin's son John is my grandfather's grandfather.
My grandfather went to the mines at 12 and was there till 22 then Army WW1
I had an uncle in Ohio who took a job working in a coal mine. After his first day his boss came to him with some paperwork and told him, you now qualify for "Black Lung Insurance" my uncle told him "You can keep this job."
Doing my family history, many of my relatives were killed in those mines.My Uncle drove a truck, and my father was a breaker boy, picking out the slate.Both started working at 9 years old. My Grandfather was also a coal miner.
Like me Ed is Youngstown Ohio bread and born and my Welsh family has almost the same story my great grandfather was a miner in Wales and was a miner in Ohio after moving to the States with his wife and three oldest children,( my grandfather was one of the four more born here ) and my grandfather worked as a pipefitter at the U.S. Steel works as did my Uncle's and I was a steel worker my self at what was at the time called Youngstown Steel Door .
Yall might be related
We could also be related cause I have a great grandmother her Maiden Name was Jones and I see your Last name is Jones
I’m from Youngstown too!
bred
Having 7 children and having to escape to a new world, to survive, they had to be tough. It’s amazing they were able to find any information in his family. The Language barrier alone would have been a challenge.
I imagine they spoke english before coming to America.
Not necessarily. Would depend what part of Ireland they came from. The Primary School system which forced everyone to get their education in English was only established in 1831.
You could be correct as some Irish still spoke Celtic in that time
@@chrisphillips348it's called Irish or Gaelige not Celtic..Celtic is not a language
@@softanna27 oh, thanks
Clicked on his video cuz of his Irish last name and so I figured maybe his family’s history could look similar to mine. I saw Youngstown and was like “HA ok yeah probably a lot more similar then not” being that my dads whole family is from Youngstown! Really makes me want to dig more into my own family
Can confirm.
Went into a mine in the UK.
Portions of the mine were set up to replicate the Victorian era and we got to experience it for about 30 mins. Wild.
It did NOT “become known as the great potato famine”, it’s known as an Gorta Mór or The Great Hunger. The blight only affected the subjugated Irish, the English plantations and estates had a bumper harvest, food exports continued as the Irish natives suffered. There was no “famine”. It’s insulting to the memory of our dead and banished to call it so.
I had heard that poorer people had access to a line of potato that yielded harvest fast but was possessed of less heartiness, subject to botanical pathogens. The potatoes (as I understand) were less nutritionally beneficial and composed of more water and less vitamins than other strains of tuber. That along with the predatory grasp of the british, sealed the fate of many
@@flopimusI've grown one of the varieties of potato grown during the "famine" called Lumpers and can confirm they are a horrible watery lumpy potato
Thank you for taking me to school on this
That's still a famine. Famine doesn't necessarily imply a natural scarcity of food, it can be caused by governmental policy as well. The famines that happen in Africa today aren't because there isn't enough food, it's because of government policy and conflict. Government policy killed millions through famine in China and the Soviet Union in the 20th century. Most notable famines are caused by humans, not by nature alone.
@@ayatollahlalalola Right. The initial comment was confusing 😅
One of the coolest stories from this show.
thank you
I began working in a steel mill on its railroad at the age of 17. One of my great-grandfathers, an Irish immigrant, joined the US army in 1860 at a young age.
Oh, I was drafted in 1968.
17 or 19 is not a boy in the 1860s. We get to be kids for a lot longer... Sounds like a family to be proud of.
It doesn't mean you can't have compassion for them. It sounds like Ed is proud.
@@AdrianeErin for sure! They had rough lives.
Legally not a boy, but physically, scientifically, still basically a boy. Doesn't matter the era.
My dad's paternal side were coalminers in Lancashire and it was common for 17 year old boys to be working in the coalpits for several years already. My gt-grandfather had 2 uncles age 13 and 11 listed as coalminers in a 1851 census. His own father probably started working in the mines by the age of 10 a couple years later.. Some boys started even younger 6 or 7 they would be sitting in a cold pitch black small cramped area for 12 or more hours with no source of light waiting for the sound of an approaching wagon full of coal pushed by kids not much older..imagine how terrified these kids must have been. We have it so soft compared to our ancestors. @@rivkabornstein
in the 1860s males had to be 21 years old to marry without parental consent. girls 18..
Perhaps Bridget went to work in the hospital in an attempt to know whether her sons were okay… and to tend the wounds of other mothers’ sons.
That's the first thing I thought...as a mother myself. I would have to do something.
Ed O’Neil was in the film ‘Cruising’ with Al Pacino. Awesome performance!!
You’re going to take the floating ball test 😂😂😂
He was also AL Bundy in married with children and he plays on Mondern family
He was also in “The Dogs of War” with Christopher Walken.
Really important point here--"brother killed brother" wasn't a metaphor or an exaggeration. That is the reality of not only The Civil War in America, but of wars like that before and since then. If that comes back to the US, it will be the reality and it won't go how anyone thinks.
You’re born, you struggle, you move away, you struggle, you die.
And you bring more lives into the world to struggle 😅
I’m from Louisville. I wonder where the hospital was located. I’m sure I can go to the library.
An admiral family
To ed as a former wv coal miner i have in a shaft mine welcome brother
I want to get famous for the sole purpose of having Dr. Gates do my family genealogy.
great clip-except the music is so much louder than the dialogue.
Always 😂
Coal mining is one of the hardest jobs in history.
I bet his grandmother, and so many other women, had the anxious ess and urge to pour out her motherly love and care to any other young man like her sons during the war. Likely hoping someone else was doing the same for her sons if needed.
The mix is off between the narration and the background music. Makes it difficult to hear.
So none of his ancestors scored four touchdowns in a single game, huh?
He actually has a daughter named Claire?
a lot of this is happening in gaza right now, it's not just history
Yes.. I have uncles from my grandmother side who fought in the confederate side... One died of a gangrena of a cannon shot
He has daughter named Claire?
From the English's genocidal act to American civil war. What a journey
Our Tyrrells were descended from the Jacobites and the Tyrrells of the Irish Nine Years War. The struggle goes back some time!
My Uncle Jessie, used to raz my Aunt Cass, that if her Dad,
and brothers would have brought home all those freed slaves.
The conditions in the mines would have gone way up!
She said, when they were free, they'ld work for just a day,
and then run off to parts unknown.
She'ld say, they fall asleep driving a bus now. How much coal do
you think they would have ever shoveled then, in 16 hours?? lol!
How you gettin there? you're goin through war places...
He's still Al Bundy to me in the best way.
At least your ancestors weren’t traitorous confederates. You should be very proud. I know I would be.
They were not traitors, they simply did what their hearts told them to. Nobody had an actual right to the land but the natives but here we are. Humans don't own this earth.
Too bad the music drowned out their voices.
Thye used 10 year olds in the breakers.
Americans love to call their country Paradise and the best country in the world. What about the coal mines?
Is it possible that Ed had a child with a girlfriend in 1968 ?
crying wow
Sounds like a wealthy family. 17 is 25 now
America's history is not pretty. Her history does however, shape her wild heart. Every Revolutionary, Rebel, Native Warrior gave their blood to her Wild Heart. Every nurse, doctor and battlefield medic that ever got a wounded soldier home healed a scar on her wild heart. No, America's history is not pretty, but it is Proud and her Heart is still wild..
Peg!!
Poor guy has TDS.
I hope you are getting medical helps
19 isn’t a boy.
19 back then is 35 now 😂
Host leads answers "I would never want to go". Don't do that, please. It's distasteful
well at least she didnt have to suffer through watching married with children
19 is not a boy. 19 is a man. They lived much shorter lives back then.
Wow, those Irish had so much white privilege .
You need to study tour history more.......
The Irish were enslaved for the most part
Compared to black people? Absolutely they did -they could live where they wanted, obtain citizenship, vote, own property, serve on a jury and testify in court. Blacks could do none of those things. And "Lil Dave1964" ought to stop parroting the myth of Irish slaves -they were no "Irish slaves" (interested readers may wish to Google the "Irish Slaves Myth).
I can't take anyone from Harvard seriously. After giving George W Bush a masters degree, then putting up a plaque of your first native American female professor,,, named Elizabeth Warren. I'd think better of the show if the host graduate from ITT tech
What is wrong with the native American professor? I small jealousy 😢
We judge people based on what they do. If you have specific criticism of the host, we'll hear it. He shouldn't be judged for what W or Warren did.