My daughter was gifted a dna test. She took it only to find out at 50……my biological father was not the man that raised me. Rocked our world. I went from farmer to jones in one 30 minute conversation. The only place I can suggest anyone to start processing this info is Mercy, Grace and Forgiveness.
Man, I love the 5150 album so much! It was the first album I bought on CD. I'm Australian, but I was playing American Football in 1986, and before the game I used to play it on my beautiful powder blue Sony Discman to get fired up. "US Prime, Grade A, stamp guaranteed!" woo!
I just love Sammy's response. I'm Blown away, wow this happens all the time in real life, deep in American revolutionary roots, this is lunacy, Carl Sagan & Steven Hawkings stuff, my minds gonna work on this like a mouse on a wheel of cheese! What an incredible mind and curiosity Sammy has, instead of letting his ego go down a rabbit hole just jumped into how interesting the information was! Brilliant. After seeing this I have a whole new insight of how interesting Sammy the human being is.
Hagar was the name for an Egyptian woman who conceived Abraham's first son from the suggestion of Sarah, his wife. Then Abraham's wife conceived of Isaac later on.
Maybe Elizabeth had an affair, maybe it wasn't consensual. There is always that possibility. Maybe it was a one off. We'll never know. There's no evidence she had a continuing relationship with Belcher. People make a lot of assumptions but I wind up frustrated because there's so much we simply don't know. In the end all that matters is that the child was healthy and produced a descendant that has the pipes of the gods.
yes. Or her & her husband broke up and he went to live with his mother and she started to date someone else with out divorcing. Or her husband abandoned the family.
Maybe they adopted the little Belcher boy from a nearby family. That happened to my grandfather - sent to a farm family that could better afford to raise him. Maybe Mr. Hagar was helping his elderly mother maintain the family homestead and traveled in between. Because he was in one place when the census-taker came by doesn't mean he was never anywhere else.
My wife discovered a family controversy when she did DNA and ancestry research. She found that her great grandmother had a child that was not of her sur name. She has been trying to unlock what actually happened ever since.
My grandmother had two children by the same man and married another. My other grandmother had 3 by a married man and she never got married. We know who both dads are but there is zero contact with their families. My uncle even lived in the same small town as his bio dad and would see him when he went to town. It doesnt change how much love there is in my family though.
I'm sad that PBS doesn't post full episodes of this show. I loved watching it when it came out, but I don't watch TV anymore. Best I have is playing RUclips while I'm at work.
Thank you Henry Louis Gates, and your team, for doing this series. I've enjoyed Sammy for decades and hearing his approach to finding family that loves you, even if you didn't know they were there, is what it's all about.
My sisters convinced me I wasn't born, rather hatched. They said our Family still had some of the shells. *They put some in a box with tissue papers around them. Of course I told everyone about the shells, and they laughed me out of college. Imagine a professor telling his med students he was hatched! There's egg all over my face.
He's said that "Love Walks In" was about some alien encounters he had as a teenager but now it seems like it's about Mr. Belcher meeting Grandma Elizabeth lol
Over Covid, I learned I have 14 siblings. My father had 14 kids in 10 yrs with 8 women. Last summer at 82 yrs old, he was murdered. He almost went to the grave with no one knowing his secrets. So many questions we all need answers to.
There is no guarantee that his great granny Elizabeth had an affair. Alam could have left her for another reason and THEN she had a child with Belcher Jr. Since we have no clue what year he left, and if the younger child was/wasn't Alams child, an affair by Elizabeth is speculation.
Or the victim of a r**e. I mean, even NOW the conviction rates in these crimes are abysmal. What were they in the 1800s.... less than zero, if that? Not uncommon for a man to up and leave because she would have been considered "damaged goods". Saying she had an affair is something else. Like getting rid of a hang nail by cutting off the whole finger.
Thanks for this info. I live in Missouri and always wondered how it's pronounced I've traced several branches of my own family to Tazewell county Virginia and nearby Mercer county (West Virginia-i think?).
I found out that the same thing happened in my ancestory as well. I found this out when I was in my 40's. It most likely happened with my great great grandmother. It was mind-blowing to find that out. I did get in contact with another guy who was doing genealogy research that I am related to. It was crazy.
They literally showed that there were 11 male Belchers living nearby. They couldn't determine which one exactly was the father because it could have been any of them.
My 3rd great grandfather is Morgan Morgans. One of the 75 delegates to sign the Washington State Constitution. He was the superintendent of the Black Diamond coal mine.
I'm adopted with very little info of my biological parents that was born out of wedlock. That said, is it still possible to determine my nationality and who my mother and father are?
Yes, if you have matching relatives they will tell you. We did Ancestry, and I have tons of relatives, but they keep changing their ethnicity estimates. With some research you can still figure it out.
Wow, didn't see that coming! It has to be very strange for Sammy going his whole life, and being introduced for shows, now knowing you're actually someone else. I think it would very hard to handle.
I thought when he turned that page it was gonna say, "Roth", like he and David Lee are related lol...
That would been funny
It would be war lol
I definitely thought that too!
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My daughter was gifted a dna test. She took it only to find out at 50……my biological father was not the man that raised me. Rocked our world. I went from farmer to jones in one 30 minute conversation. The only place I can suggest anyone to start processing this info is Mercy, Grace and Forgiveness.
Love Sammy he's a golden retriever. He seems truly happy and content human being. Gosh I just love him.
I really don’t like his music much - but I agree! Wouldn’t want to go to the concert - but would love to live next door to this guy
saw him in 1980 Birmingham Odeon. great gig. Then years later with Chicken Foot Shepherd’s bush Empire the night micheal jackson died
@@rockerjim8045that was June 25, 2009.
Lol. Interesting point but very true. Personally, I have always been a huge fan of Hagar/Belcher.
Man, I love the 5150 album so much! It was the first album I bought on CD. I'm Australian, but I was playing American Football in 1986, and before the game I used to play it on my beautiful powder blue Sony Discman to get fired up. "US Prime, Grade A, stamp guaranteed!" woo!
He'll always be Sammy Hagar to us!
Sammy said he was buckled up, but he still can’t drive 55.
Just like his great great grandfather
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D.B._Cooper?
I thought you were living it up in Hawaii after you bailed out and skydove with all that money.
Montrose, Hagar, Chickenfoot, Waborito, Belcher - makes no difference, Sammy is one of a kind and will always be The Red Rocker.
Amen !!!
I agree 79 street machine tour was great
Absolutely, I’ve seen him live several times since the early 80s, there’s no one that can compare to Sammy, he’s the best 🙌🏻🎸👍🏻
I saw Sammy Belcher in 1985 or 86 in Honolulu while in the Navy. Belcher or Hagar the dude only knows one way to rock!
I saw what you did there, thats some heavy metal noise
My husband is a Belcher on his mother's side. We traced his family tree and found the Belcher ancestor each is descended from, back in the 1700s.
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Yeah, what a voice he had then!
Just saw him in FL in july... he still rocks
His era in Van Halen will now be known as "Van Belcher."
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Love it! 😂😂😂
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Lol😂😂
Sammy Belcher is my favorite Van Halen singer
I was afraid he was going to turn out to be a "Roth"
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HEY MAN THAT SUIT IS YOU!!!!!
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😂🤣now that's funny!!🎸
Sammy seems like a very chill guy.
I just love Sammy's response. I'm Blown away, wow this happens all the time in real life, deep in American revolutionary roots, this is lunacy, Carl Sagan & Steven Hawkings stuff, my minds gonna work on this like a mouse on a wheel of cheese! What an incredible mind and curiosity Sammy has, instead of letting his ego go down a rabbit hole just jumped into how interesting the information was! Brilliant. After seeing this I have a whole new insight of how interesting Sammy the human being is.
Hagar is Dutch or German, and Belcher is French/Norman. I wonder if he's gonna expand his alcohol empire to include wine now?
Sammy is too classy for just wine. Cognac and Armagnac. That’s what he would do.
@@Hun_Uinaq He sold Cabo years ago
Hagar was the name for an Egyptian woman who conceived Abraham's first son from the suggestion of Sarah, his wife. Then Abraham's wife conceived of Isaac later on.
@@oldbeergangster2381 indeed yeah I think the Germanic links are fictitious too.
He has a huge wine collection. He would put fancy wine on his backstage rider but not uncorked. Then he would take them home.
Maybe Elizabeth had an affair, maybe it wasn't consensual. There is always that possibility. Maybe it was a one off. We'll never know. There's no evidence she had a continuing relationship with Belcher. People make a lot of assumptions but I wind up frustrated because there's so much we simply don't know. In the end all that matters is that the child was healthy and produced a descendant that has the pipes of the gods.
yes. Or her & her husband broke up and he went to live with his mother and she started to date someone else with out divorcing. Or her husband abandoned the family.
Maybe they adopted the little Belcher boy from a nearby family. That happened to my grandfather - sent to a farm family that could better afford to raise him. Maybe Mr. Hagar was helping his elderly mother maintain the family homestead and traveled in between. Because he was in one place when the census-taker came by doesn't mean he was never anywhere else.
@@archiesghost9582That wouldn't do it because adopting a child wouldn't have mixed the bloodlines.
All possible. Statistically, it is more likely she had an affair.
@@scottfoster2639 Adopting a child wouldn't produce grandchildren, etc. that contained the adopting mother's DNA. It's ZERO PERCENT possible.
Man, I love Sammy, he's such a great dude.
Sammy handled that like a champ. Most folks have an identity crisis thereafter...
My wife discovered a family controversy when she did DNA and ancestry research. She found that her great grandmother had a child that was not of her sur name. She has been trying to unlock what actually happened ever since.
Sammy is a beacon of light in this world. They made magic together with Eddie and those songs are forever !
Sammy's phone: 11 missed calls from a bunch of Belchers
The same thing happened and I too found out later in life, and yes the story was taken to the grave. People and their secrets.
My grandmother had two children by the same man and married another. My other grandmother had 3 by a married man and she never got married. We know who both dads are but there is zero contact with their families. My uncle even lived in the same small town as his bio dad and would see him when he went to town. It doesnt change how much love there is in my family though.
It actually made me happy to know why they all treated me the way they did
Amen Patrice Mitchel, Amen.
Sammy is pure joy! And still Sammy Belcher Can't Drive 55
I'm sad that PBS doesn't post full episodes of this show. I loved watching it when it came out, but I don't watch TV anymore. Best I have is playing RUclips while I'm at work.
PBS’ site offers full episodes on demand for a fee. It’s worth it if you like a lot of their shows
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Thanks, I had forgotten about that! I just love a lot of PBS shows and I don't watch tv anymore either.
Whatever his lineage, Sammy is a great singer, and it turns out he's a fantastic belcher, too.
Hahahahahahahahahaha I see what you did there
Thank you Henry Louis Gates, and your team, for doing this series. I've enjoyed Sammy for decades and hearing his approach to finding family that loves you, even if you didn't know they were there, is what it's all about.
Make no mistake Sammy is the red rocker🤘
Nothing stays a secret forever the more we know the more we want to know I love this show I want know everything as far back as possible
My sisters convinced me I wasn't born, rather hatched. They said our Family still had some of the shells. *They put some in a box with tissue papers around them. Of course I told everyone about the shells, and they laughed me out of college. Imagine a professor telling his med students he was hatched! There's egg all over my face.
He's said that "Love Walks In" was about some alien encounters he had as a teenager but now it seems like it's about Mr. Belcher meeting Grandma Elizabeth lol
I'm just a Belcher by practice. BRUUP
Over Covid, I learned I have 14 siblings. My father had 14 kids in 10 yrs with 8 women.
Last summer at 82 yrs old, he was murdered. He almost went to the grave with no one knowing his secrets. So many questions we all need answers to.
I saw Sammy Hagar by himself without VH open for Billy Squire back in the early 80s! Great concert. Great curls!
There is no guarantee that his great granny Elizabeth had an affair. Alam could have left her for another reason and THEN she had a child with Belcher Jr. Since we have no clue what year he left, and if the younger child was/wasn't Alams child, an affair by Elizabeth is speculation.
Right. 🙄
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@@ntl5983 Sooooo, exactly what year did he leave? Tell me that, and then you can roll your eyes.
Just commented same, quite a jump to say she had an affair.
Or Alem or any of the men in his line could have been adopted......
Or the victim of a r**e. I mean, even NOW the conviction rates in these crimes are abysmal. What were they in the 1800s.... less than zero, if that? Not uncommon for a man to up and leave because she would have been considered "damaged goods". Saying she had an affair is something else. Like getting rid of a hang nail by cutting off the whole finger.
I have this same kind of family secret...I hope someday I will be able to figure it out...
Taz-Well, VA. With an E, but they say it Taz-Well. 'Cuz I used to live there....
Thanks for this info. I live in Missouri and always wondered how it's pronounced I've traced several branches of my own family to Tazewell county Virginia and nearby Mercer county (West Virginia-i think?).
Went to the Tazewell County fair in 22...16 yr old son played guitar w Wyldehart!
Love that area. Used to live outside Jenkins over the mountain.
@@spacehonky6315 it's like steppin back in time in some areas. Beautiful country. Tough people.
Would be a bad place to try to invade lol
Yup. Mercer County is NOW in WV. Was 'Virginia' back then. @@spacehonky6315
I found out that the same thing happened in my ancestory as well. I found this out when I was in my 40's. It most likely happened with my great great grandmother. It was mind-blowing to find that out. I did get in contact with another guy who was doing genealogy research that I am related to. It was crazy.
Very interesting. And so the band named changed from Van Halen to Van Hagar to Van Belcher.
She had an affair? Or maybe she was abandoned and found another man?
Yeah, affair is not the only possibility
Probably an OnlyFans thing.
I'm saving up for the Belcher Box Set.
Probably best he found out now. IDK that he would have made it in the music business as "Sammy Belcher".
Why didn't they look for Belcher in the property or census records? I would have thought that he would have been living near by.
They literally showed that there were 11 male Belchers living nearby. They couldn't determine which one exactly was the father because it could have been any of them.
There were 11 possibilities.
Van Hagar is still the best version of the band. Saw you guys in 1996 (I think) and loved every second of it.
Incorrect
Definitely incorrect.
It's Van Belcher!
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PBS does do the whole show but it’s usually on at 5 o’clock in the morning Finding your roots. Awsome program
If Sammy knew he was a Belcher growing up, would he ever be a Hagar? Cant imagine this world without Sammy Hagar.
Yeah... might not have been taken seriously as a "belcher" either
Sammy is obviously a gifted person, and now he's going to write a new song I'm thinking 🤔 Love you brother 🙏🇺🇸
am i in love with Sammy Haggar? lmas love people who get excited and express so colorfully... love! GOTTA GO WATCH THAT EPOSIDE.
Hagar or Belcher, he's still the best VH frontman. Red Rocker forever!
He's got material for a whole new album from this experience. Maybe he'll call it Original Sin!👍
He needs to take a trip to Elkhorn city ky and Draffin county Ky. My dad was friends with a JD Belcher growing up in the 1960’s.. has to be related…
My 3rd great grandfather is Morgan Morgans. One of the 75 delegates to sign the Washington State Constitution. He was the superintendent of the Black Diamond coal mine.
Au contraire, for Elizabeth Hagar, there was more than one way to rock.
Someone finally figured out how to slow down the red rocker!!!
Sammy's gonna have to change all his album covers now. "The Red Rocker" Sammy BELCHER.
🤘🏼 Van Belcher 🤘🏼
Maybe he was taking care of an elderly parent?
Every family has secrets
I want a refund cuz I thought I was going to see Sammy Hagar play not Sammy Belcher😂
I DIDNT KNOW WE WERE RELATED TO SAMMY HAGAR.COOL
A lot of people are finding out about some scandalous stuff.
"My mind's gonna work on this like a mouse on a wheel of cheese." Love that Sammy quote.
This BY FARRR is my favorite show ...............
"Taz" -well County...like Tasmania
Lots of Belchers in SE KY
I went to high school with one. Knox County, KY.
My first concert. 1977. Aerosmith with Montrose and Sammy out front.
"Belcher is a Motherfer!" I didn't get it at the time 😂.
My mothers brother never knew who is dad was because my grandmother never told him. I often times wish we could've found out.
What about the Italian side of his family ?
sammy hagar got old and so did i..
i love that guy
As a joke, they should have said "you're a Van Halen"
They didn't say if any of the Belcher's lived in the same county or near any of his ancestors.
He took this well. I probably would have wanted to be retested. 😅
I would like to know about my family since everyone else knows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sammy contributed so much to the music millions of us LOVE!!
Loved his project band "Belcher Schon Aaronson Shrieve", or BSAS. He's still the Red Rocker!
He sure can belch out some hellacious vocals!
Nice to be related to bob and Linda
I never would have thought that back in the 80's looking at Sammy that he would wind up looking like Jerry Garcia.
Sammy this is an amazing discovery
It doesn’t change anything for me because he will always be one of the greatest singers of rock!! And he is just a very cool guy!!✝️🙏
I'm adopted with very little info of my biological parents that was born out of wedlock. That said, is it still possible to determine my nationality and who my mother and father are?
Yes, if you have matching relatives they will tell you. We did Ancestry, and I have tons of relatives, but they keep changing their ethnicity estimates. With some research you can still figure it out.
@@joantrotter3005: How do I know if I have matching relatives when I know nothing of my biological parents?
LOVE SAMMY! He'll always be a Hagar to me. A step father somewhere along the way? Oh well. Write a song about it, Sammy!!!!
As a Virginian, I think its wonderful.
Bob's Burgers needs to make an episode with Sammy as a guest star and have a burger of the day named after him.
I was thinking that maybe have them related.
Thank you, Mr. Belcher.
Sammy Belcher is capable of driving at more reasonable speeds…
The Sammy Belcher Rock Tour 2024! Yeah Baby!
I still think the older brother from The Wonder years, Is Sam's kid.
Jason Hervey?
Was waiting for Sammy to make a joke about being a Belcher and saying something like, well, I always did like drinking beer and Tequila
Maybe Elizabeth didn’t actually have an affair, maybe it wasn’t consensual. Obviously more speculation.
“The Truth always comes to light.”
Wow, didn't see that coming! It has to be very strange for Sammy going his whole life, and being introduced for shows, now knowing you're actually someone else. I think it would very hard to handle.
How is it possible that this man is 77 years old? Such a young face!!
What about Bailey?
That's just mind-blowing. Now it seems that I, in fact am more closely related to Hagar AND Bailey than he is. It's a musical family though, no doubt!
I was hoping when he turned the page that it would have showed him as a Roth - he and David Lee are cousins!
GREAT JOB ALL...THANX 4 MAKING Tee with LIONS NAMED LEO the music worldwide.
LOVE YOU ALL...!!!....MUCH LOVE.!!
Elizabeth Baily..LOL..I have Bailey in my line too..They also "got around"..lol
Outside of people living today, how would they know what the DNA of ancestors are, especially someone born in 1770.
aDNA
How wild and scary at the same time. Grew up thinking one thing then find out something else. What is the real truth?
I see so much inspiration, for a song. Let's hope
I was really hoping that Sammy was related to David Lee Roth.
Sammy so genuine,, what a treasure
When Sammy sings, he can really Belcher it out!
I need this level of DNA research done on my line. I could use some references.
I saw Sammy Belcher in 1974 in Kalamazoo with Montrose