The Empire Could've Lasted a 1000 Years... if it did this
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- The Galactic Empire was in a terrific position post clone wars. It was presiding over a broken galaxy, that it alone could've repaired. In doing so they would've won the admiration of the citizens of the galaxy.
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IMHO the Empire failed to last any meaningful length of time because:
1. Palpatine ran it like an a**hole instead of sensisbly
2. He was more focused on using Empire resources to study and restore lost Sith knowledge than doing his actual job as Emperor
He also pitted government organizations and officials against each other which led to corruption.
Eg tbf to palps here, he didn't do a bad job, his problem was those under him like Tarkin.
Palpatine actually did do things to help the common man like getting rid of space pirates in ways the republic never cared to and more.
@@isimperialist ya that was him copying ancient sith organizations, which also pitted everyone against each other, causing real talent to die on the vine.
He shld have stuck with being the kindly old grandpa palpy that everyone knew and loved.
Well that's kind of the whole point, right? He didn't take over out of some desire to HELP all living beings, but to subjugate and terrify them in order to increase his own Dark Side powers.
Also, since he destroyed the Jedi Order, he assumed his main enemies were defeated
How to design the Galactic Empire to be effective:
1 - Establish regional multi-planet districts.
2 - Assign an admiral to each district.
3 - Each planet within the district will provide a prorated share of the operational budget of any forces assigned there.
4 - Limit the duties of each admiral to the following:
a - Maintain internal peace among the planets of the district.
b - Maintain internal security within each planet.
c - Suppress piracy and raiding.
d - Defend the district against external threats.
e - As necessary, join with other district fleets to combat wider threats.
5 - Rigorously police corruption among the admirals and their officers and staff.
6 - Allow each local government autonomy to rule as its people prefer, so long as they act in accord with the aforementioned steps.
Addendum: Don't be ruled by a psychopathic space wizard whose ultimate goal is to destroy civilization from within.
Regarding space wizardry, it may actually be helpful. Imagine a secret service made of force users, trained mostly in precognition and mind reading, and mind manipulations + some other force techniques (mainly for self defence). Then add space into wizardry: every operative has an implanted brain-computer interface, that allows to quickly get information as well to offload anything, they gathered to a giant AI supercomputer to process. Additionally, said chips could suppress emotions, by, say, controlling hormone production, as well as cultivate loyalty - release happiness hormones every time the emperor is mentioned, additionally their own thoughts could be analyzed for the signs of infidelity. Basically a hybrid of the "Machine" from "Person of interest", "Tetragrammaton clerics" from "Equilibrium", Jedi and FBI or even Gestapo. Organisation like this would be able to uncover corruption, enemy agents as well as criminal organisations, manipulate local leaders and respected people into truthfully serving the Empire.
Admirals governing provinces? No.
The Roman way that worked on a local level, especially when there was a mad emperor in charge...
@@Archaeus777 if you read it you would see that the admiral doesn't govern, they police. They just run the security forces in the region, fight corruption within the security forces, and collect taxes that go to the security forces, they would only step into a planetary governments business if ordered to or a situation occurs such as taxes being withheld, rebels not being dealt with properly, pirates on the planet, or another situation in which a military force is needed. This is much better as planets will feel more free, this reduces rebels drastically and because there is a fleet in each region rebels that do appear will struggle to mass together, have a military better adapted to asymmetrical warfare, anti-piracy strategies, and quick mobilization and it would be far better at combatting enemies that the empire would need to expect to fight.
@ARCHAEVS the galactic empire's admirals tended to be closer to political leaders rather than military ones.
If the Empire had spent money taken from the CIS to rebuild ruined worlds and encourage colonization and securing hyperspace routes then they could’ve explained they were increasing military expenses to protect their new investments.
That's...literally what they did, lmfao.
@@NotanAlt999 with a catch
Me lasting nearly 5-6 years longer than the Empire, that's quite the achievement for me.
Thanks, my friend.
youre beating the record everyday
@@ceciiivie hmm, so I am. And you as well.
The Empire should have been successful if they aren’t so full of themselves or doing their own thing for their personal gain. No wonder why they lost against the rebels.
It would've also helped if they didn't spend trillions of credits on the Death Star. The Death Star was the ultimate cause for the Empire's collapse.
Seriously. This applies to so many governments today and throughout history
Also the massive buracreacy that was prevalent. Andor's ISB gave us a glimpse of the true workings of the Empire. Not about the Stormtroopers, Super Weapons etc. Just the constant conference meetings, paperwork, quarterly reports, different agencies etc.....its amazing the Empire lasted for as long as it did.
@isimperialist Changing the navy doctrine to be ISD centered was already a blow, but it would've _somewhat had better results,_ if all the resources on the Death Star were instead concentrated on making more ISDs.
If it's a gigantic galaxy and we're doing the Tarkin Doctrine anyway, might as well get as many of those battleships out there, to cover more territory!
🎯
I’d imagine the Empire tax collection bureau was hilariously over-militarized to fund the forever war-economy. Either that, or Palpatine was minting more credits each year than the entire population of Coruscant.
Maybe both happened.
If you read the "new" Thrawn book, you'll kind of get a glimpse of the way things ran. Lots of corruption and confiscation of assets.
They had several tax collecting agencies, bureaus and ministries for taxation.
The Empire was not on a war economy, though.
I always read these comments saying Palpatine was an idiot for how he ran the Empire, but he WANTED constant conflict, it was his Sith mantra. He knew the downside of Tarkins policies but he delighted in the fear and other dark side emotions it invoked in the galaxy.
I think people fail to realize that other than killing all the Jedi and making everyone miserable, because he's an asshole like that, Palpatine really didn't have a plan for the Empire other than to use it to fuel his ambitions to live forever.
He didn't make everyone miserable lol. The Empire did great in many aspects, it's just that Palps allowed the old Republic culture of corruption and apathy to mix with the 'New Order' COMPNOR ideology he had introduced in the years prior to the Clone War. This fostered a semi-shitty culture that led to Imperial ruthlessness not being pragmatic.
@@tk-6967 Maybe, but another interpretation is that this is exactly what he wanted. He is a Sith after all, and this misery feeds the Dark Side.
I have the idea that this guy is some outer rim planet making a podcast about how "the empire has fallen" and bashing in the empire economic planning
That title makes me wish a Tywin Lannister kind of character was in charge of the Empire.
"The future of our Empire rests in this civil war.
We could create an Empire that will last 1000 years... or we could fade into nothing, as the Sith did.
_I need all of you to be the Officers this Empire needs!_ Not next year, not tomorrow... _NOW...!"_
I wish we had Charles Dance star as an Imperial Moff.
@moisesfavela2189 *He'd be too competent to let the Empire believably fall.* _But his presence would've been a sight for sore eyes...!_ 😢
Thrawn filled that role masterfully in the EU, I'd love to see that storyline done if Disney is willing to put in the effort to do it right.
Tywin for all his statemenship had faults that undid him. A Star wars Tywin would be goaded into disastrous military campaigns with Red Squadron and its related cells after his pride had been wounded. Much like Robb did in the riverlands/
@@theliato3809 _Fair point._ 😐
Aaah, shit. Now you made me wish for Richard Madden playing a Rebel squad leader!
The Empire also seriously jumped the gun on the oppression. Andor shows us, the Empire already passing unreasonable, arbitrary laws that strip any justice or fairness out of the judicial system. That kind of thing is going to piss everyone off and mean that people will start to rebel under the old adage of "we are already condemned to death so we might as well go down fighting".
By arbitrarily arresting tourists on a tourist planet, the Empire probably ruined that planet's economy for decades.
However, the Empire was not as firmly in charge as it would be by New Hope days. The Senate still had some power and IBS was still finding its legs as the secret police. If the Empire stayed more benevolent for another decade or two, it would have had a functioning Death Star and the Rebellion would just be starting and easily infiltrated and crushed. Palpatine and his minions were too arrogant and rushed things in their attempts to gain power in the Sith way.
There are already examples of don’t be too strict, because some people really will choose to go down fighting, and they may actually win from history.
The first was a rebellion of some army recruits from the Zhou dynasty of China, where they were a day late to their muster, which carry the death penalty so they decided they were going to fight the system because they were already dead men otherwise anyway.
The second are the Donbass rebels of Ukraine, who understood that the new Kiev junta was genocidal and put up resistance, knowing that the government meant their extermination should they lose.
@@brianmead7556The fact you think history actually supports you in this is deeply, deeply amusing.
@@NotanAlt999 I'm using direct examples from history!
@@brianmead7556 Hint; quite literally (almost) every internal rebellion or seditious group in the history of humanity has either not succeeded and never realistically could have, or won primarily if not entirely due to outside interference and context (like, say, a 1000-year old prophecy dictating the birth of a literal Christ-anaolgy to -die for our sins- destroy the Sith, one of whom just so happens to be the omnipotent ruler and linchpin of the ruling government, all of which culminated in a father's love for his son overcoming evil), no matter how EVVVUULL or tyrannical said government is.
@@brianmead7556 Your ukraine example is so bizzare. If anything the Maidan Uprising would suit your narative. A government economic decission leading to protests, which where supressed violently (like shooting civillians from the top of buildings and beatings) leading to the fall of the government. Donbass rebels then attacked regional government buildings and law enforcment with help of outside forces (or the opposite around) only after a month of the new government. Then they started their own reingn of violence, with killings, torture, rape and abduction of civillians.
As early as Heir to the Empire it was established that the Imperial forces largely consisted of law enforcement and military professionals who weren't entirely comfortable with Palpatine's megalomania or Vader's temper tantrums - they saw themselves as public servants maintaining order in society.
Yeah, in legends, the moment the empire managed to shake off and weed out Paplatine's influence and get a peace treaty with the new Republic, the (now) Fel empire got pretty strong to the point that they could rival the New Republic and were super stable until the Fel dynasty was overthrown by Darth Krayt!
I love the inexplicable cheese block in the middle of the video
The Swiss were always connected with cheese by the Germans and the French....
The main issue of the Empire is writers (including Lucas) worrying more about telling 1 small story in a giant IP, than fleshing that IP/universe out.
Lets be real, none of the downsides of the empire were there for story reasons and more just to hamfist a shot into a short sighted story.
0:10 to put that in perspective that's the same life of from when the United States won the American Revolution (1783) to towards the end of Thomas Jefferson's presidency (1806).
The Empire could have been great if it was fundamentally different and not built by and for psychopaths and sociopaths.
So you're telling me that Sith Empires can't work? Shock and scandal!
Yes, this is what this video boils down to.
i mean investing in the military isn't a bad thing for the empire but don't invest in massive super weapons and super star destroyers but instead invest in smaller but still effective ships so they can spread out into the galaxy much better to help defend against pirates and such
That is exactly what Grand Admiral Thrawn was trying to get into Palpatine's skull. Thrawn was no fan of the Death Star.
@@jamesbellefeuille2926And he would've accomplished it, if not for Assistant Director Ronan.
Nothing bigger than a super star destroyer that would be trotted out for big fleet actions. ISD, Cruisers, destroyers and gunships for smaller conflicts. Garrison worlds in each sector... having a sector governor, a senator and individual planetary governments. Military organized along sector lines, with a small yet effective central military to serve purely imperial ambitions. An ISB to cover all of the bases...everywhere. Each sector can have their own forms of ISB that would be subordinate to Imperial ISB. Don't have a megalomaniac death dealing psychopath in charge. You do this then you have 500 years of an Empire.
@@jamesbellefeuille2926This is a fanon myth, no.
@@NotanAlt999 fanon myth? The Thrawn Trilogy is literally canon. You are the only one operating on fanon myth here. Literally in the Thrawn Trilogy which is canon, you can look it up. Thrawn heavily opposed the Death Star project, and heavily tried to convince Palpatine why it was bad. Do you even know what canon is? Also btw, we are talking about the newer second Thrawn Trilogy, I.e. 'Star Wars: Thrawn' , "Star Wars: Thrawn Alliances' , "Star War: Thrawn Treason'. Not the old trilogy aka 'Heir to the Empire' era.
This channel is such a gold mine of insight, I love every video you put out, thank you
So basically what you're trying to say is that the Empire *could* have lasted a thousand years... if it wasnt ruled by a Sith Lord.
One thing that we definitely must put into law is term limits for both congress and the senate. I think a max of 3 terms per lifetime with 2 for the president. It was meant to be a term of service then returning to your life. No more career politicians. That is one step to stopping the swamp.
Ironically, the SWTOR Sith Empire by contrast, lasted for around 1300 years, despite the fact that it was completely ruled by Sith on all levels and had a mad emperor who wanted to destroy the galaxy to become a god.
OOF 😅
Goes to show how bad of a manager Palpatine was
I remember when first watching the original trilogy thinking, based on what Obi-Wan told Luke, that the Empire had been around for over a hundred years. When I found out it had only been founded about 20 years before the start of A New Hope, I wondered what kind of industrial engines capable of building so much, so quickly this galaxy had at their disposal. It takes a long time to build an aircraft carrier and yet the Empire was able to put out over 25,000 ISDs in less than 18 years (not to mention building one and a half Death Stars as countless-seeming gigantic bases)
Maybe that's what I'm curious about from the lore. Just to use the ISD as an example, I'm assuming it wasn't in pre-planning stages prior to the Emperor's ascension so how did this ship go from conception to architectural drawings to prototype (and every other step in between) in about two years? Is it all just outsourced to droid minds?
Because the timeline doesn't make sense. Yeah, everyone acted like the Empire had been around for a long time, and wasn't going anywhere. Yet it had only been around for like 20 years? Likely something that occurred due to a mistake in the writing room.
@@Arkancidethe gulf war was a long time ago aswell
@@aaravtulsyan I'm old, I remember watching the news stories of the Gulf War stuff. Not that long ago. 1990-1991
@@Arkancide That was well over 20-30 years ago.
@@isimperialist I know... 33 years may seem like a long time, but it isn't. Why is this a point of contention?
1,000 year empire would be a scary thought for sure.
In real life people barely survived for 12 years of Nazi rule, imagine if it was for 1,000 years.
Hitler actually wanted a 1,000 year reich. I can't imagine the hell if he succeeded. man in the high castle gave us a glimpse of what that may have been like.
The true 1000 year Reich
i mean you can only run on hatred and meth for so long
Survived? They were thriving from 1933 to 1941.
Not the Jews
The Galactic Empire lacked freedom, peace & justice, three of the "Skywalker Core Four" to fourth being security.
If counting the Galactic Empire, First Order, and Final Order Ruleing, and proinperial holdouts, it lasted 54 years. It tried 3 times to survive, and failed harder each time.
2:59 cheese class star destroyer
Made by Trade Federation 😅
"........has been distributing drugs to a man known only as Alan....."😂😂😂😂
The empire could have lasted 1000 years if you got rid of plot armor in the original trilogy
And the Death Star. It was just a waste of money and resources. It destroys more resources and money than it makes or conquers.
@@isimperialist furthermore, it failed that its primary objective making it, so no planet wants to rebel because they decided to destroy Alderan which which is the most culturally influential planet, and might be the second most important planet in the galaxy
Nah, even whithout the Rebels Plot Armor, it would have ended on the account on How Unecessary Evil, Opressive It was mixed with so Much Incompentence at all levels. If Just might have taken a few more decades to At Almost Impossibly 1 or 2 centuries.
The empire was doomed from the start. Built by a man who saw government management as a means to further a occult agenda than on making a strong and lasting state. Filled to the brim with corrupt stratocrats who balk at science and logic and opt instead for cruelty vibes based policy((ie the tarkin doctrine)). It sped ran the alienation of the galactic citizens, doing in 10 years what took the republic 1000 years to accomplish. All while feeding all of their resources into extravagant and impractical military projects in a time where the biggest threat to the empire was small cells of gurellia fighters and pirates. All while, of course, doing everything to make the average imperial citizens life harder and worse, with fewer and fewer spent on utilities or civic projects and the reintroduction of slavery, despite having literal armies of deactivated droids who could do that same work just fine.
This empire, like many authoritarian regimes, was a wasteful and bloated nest of corruption and cliques. It was doomed the moment fear was prioritized over having the populace genuinely like your regime.
The rebel heroes probably wouldn't have survived, but the Empire just doesn't seem especially geared towards long term survival. Plus, hundreds of millions of star destroyers could fit in the death star. Even if there was some special material that was more efficiently used in the death star than in a star destroyer, I'd rather have hundreds or thousands of star destroyers than a single death star
What destroyed the Empire was a lack of a senate.
The Empire was run buy a few dozen governors and admirals who got their orders directly from Palpatine. Since there was no senate to elect a new emperor after Palpatine's death, every single one of those governor and admirals had a chance of becoming the new emperor and infighting broke out almost immediately.
Day 3 of asking you to make a history Channel
He did not do any real world research, parroting propagandized impressions that have been hammered for 30 years. Does he not know Japan has been in a recession for 30 years?
4:08 "Stability creates economic growth" 7:00 "High GDP per capita" Japanese GDP per capita is low. 7:40 "Hello Kitty to demilitarize its society" this does not demilitarize society when you have anime girls for recruitment advertisements. It only feigns demilitarization and helps feign victimhood as they still do in 2024 trying to build memorials for Hiroshima after bombing Asian capitalist cities (30 million killed, no wonder 1 billion Asians cheered how WW2 ended, and Japan themselves were developing 2 nukes and planned to extend germ bombings to America in September of 1945 to stall for time to finish said nukes) and allying with communists in WW2 to get them in power, and using the money to build postwar Japanese economy, revisionism pushed in 2024 by sons of WW2 fascist leaders in the ruling party who blame other countries for objecting
Again, Gentech does not know Japan has been in a recession for 30 years. Foreigners may refer to "the lost decade" except in Japan the media calls it "The Lost 30 years," it's not just a decade.
If you look at actual Japanese economic articles, all the rage these days are about people worrying about the various taxes when added up practically being 50% like in the old days (back when samurai used to oppress people with high taxes for war, and sell them as slaves overseas to buy gunpowder, and infanticides called Mabiki were so common it was nonchalantly done even in 1800s when Sato Nobuhiro, citing specific statistics per region estimated the average household kills a child every 3 years) and people clamoring minimum wage hike, citing it is lower than their neighbor South Korea's. Banks actually ASK you to pay them for safekeeping your money instead of giving you an interest. It has not been long since banks got rid of floppy disks, and the National Diet (Parliament) is citing South Korea and Germany for digitized governance which Japan is sorely lacking (a land of faxes and stamps, which they tried to improve with establishing a new wing in the administration called the Digital Agency... run by meetings).
And ofc now having a lower GDP per capita than South Korea is a talking point in Japan as well.
He really should not talk about having a "high GDP per capita" when he comes from the perspective of America, which has double Japan's GDP per capita. Proves he did not do any research. Singapore's has it slightly higher than America, but that's typical for very small countries where big corporation's GDP takes a bigger portion of the national production than larger countries.
Japan has for years tried to send military ships to claim Korean islands then feigned victimhood of being occupied by Koreans, what demilitarization?
This video exudes the typical "wow Japanese toilets are so advanced with heating" kind of idiotic mentality... while not knowing Japanese homes don't even have indoor heating (bar the expensive ones), and every year you hear people dying from monoxide poisoning due to burning things indoors to weather through cold winters.
He did not do any real world research, parroting propagandized impressions that have been hammered for 30 years. Does he not know Japan has been in a recession for 30 years? 🙄
4:08 "Stability creates economic growth" 7:00 "High GDP per capita" Japanese GDP per capita is low. 7:40 "Hello Kitty to demilitarize its society" this does not demilitarize society when you have anime girls for recruitment advertisements. It only feigns demilitarization and helps feign victimhood as they still do in 2024 trying to build memorials for Hiroshima after bombing Asian capitalist cities (30 million killed, no wonder 1 billion Asians cheered how nukes ended WW2, and Japan themselves were developing 2 nukes and planned to extend germ bombings to America in September of 1945 to stall for time to finish said nukes) and allying with communists in WW2 to get them in power, and using the money to build postwar Japanese economy, revisionism pushed in 2024 by sons of WW2 fascist leaders in the ruling party who blame other countries for objecting to it. 🤨
Again, Gentech does not know Japan has been in a recession for 30 years. Foreigners may refer to "the lost decade" except in Japan the media calls it "The Lost 30 years," it's not just a decade.
If you look at actual Japanese economic articles like Nikkei and Toyo Keizai (in original Japanese not their English outlets), all the rage these days are about people worrying about the various taxes when added up practically being 50% like in the old days _(back when samurai used to oppress people with high taxes for war, and sell them as slaves overseas to buy gunpowder, and infanticides called Mabiki were so common it was nonchalantly done even in 1800s when Sato Nobuhiro, citing specific statistics per region estimated the average household kills a child every 3 years)._ 🤨 People clamoring for minimum wage hikes, citing it is lower than their neighbor South Korea's. Banks actually ASK you to pay them for safekeeping your money instead of giving you an interest.😡 It has not been long since banks got rid of floppy disks, and the National Diet (Parliament) is citing South Korea and Germany for digitized governance which Japan is sorely lacking (a land of faxes and stamps, which they tried to improve with establishing a new wing in the administration called the Digital Agency... run by offline meetings as per typical Japanese organizations. When the first leader of the Digital Agency is the head of the Japanese Stamp Association... conflict of interest?). Toshiba fell, Sharp has been bought up, and Japanese criticize how they have become like China using tax money to entice foreign industries to build factories there (like TSMC). Price-gouging tourists going to Japan if they are foreigners, citing Thailand does it, is now a serious talking point, people arguing this is practical and those who think it is undignified to deign doing what those southeast Asians do. 🤔
And ofc now having a lower GDP per capita than South Korea is a talking point in Japan as well.
He really should not talk about having a "high GDP per capita" when he comes from the perspective of America, which has double Japan's GDP per capita. 😎 Proves he did not do any research. Singapore has it slightly higher than America, but that's typical for very small countries where big corporation's GDP takes a bigger portion of the national production than larger countries.
Japan has for years tried to send military ships to claim Korean islands then feigned victimhood of being occupied by Koreans, what demilitarization?
This video exudes the typical "wow Japanese toilets are so advanced with heating" kind of idiotic mentality... while not knowing Japanese homes don't even have indoor heating (bar the expensive ones), and every year you hear people dying from monoxide poisoning due to burning things indoors to weather through cold winters.🤨
I asked for over a year for him to do more tactics and structures like he promised before kinobi came out
Don't bother....
He’s right, the empire caused its own destruction. If they worked together with the planners rather than oppress them the empire would have lasted longer. But also each planet would have had more power to get rid of palpatine.
10:45 there are people out there who had it with capitalism doesn't mean they're communists they just want a system that doesn't involve material gain
When they're parroting off Marxist talking points, you'll have to pardon that the grown-ups in the room have difficulty telling them apart.
According to Machiavelli being neutral is a bad idea, staying neutral when two others are fighting would lead to defeat for the neutral party, as they have left themselves in a position to be hated by both sides.
that advice does not take into account being efectively a bank country. neutrality makes banks more reliable, thus its good for a bank country.
Not if you dont have any hand in things.
@@theliato3809 Please, if the U.S and China make an offer and you decline both, that makes you free game for both. You would end up being a certain island off of China without U.S military
@@vikingsword3485 We live in a globalized economy so most countries have relationships with two of the great powers of the world. And people still stay of out kurfufles with them.
@@theliato3809 That is possible when a country has nothing of value. For instance during the world wars many undeveloped countries were excluded. They had to many internal problems to negotiate with. However such countries normally get walked all over by bigger countries.
Needed to green screen a fleet in the atmosphere behind you. Missed opportunity 😂
I would hardly call Singapore a culturally idyllic place. It's just for rich people to live so they can interact with other rich people.
I love how you the SW lore into our world.
Gentech did not do any real world research, parroting propagandized impressions that have been hammered for 30 years. Does he not know Japan has been in a recession for 30 years? 🙄
4:08 "Stability creates economic growth" 7:00 "High GDP per capita" Japanese GDP per capita is low. 7:40 "Hello Kitty to demilitarize its society" this does not demilitarize society when you have anime girls for recruitment advertisements. It only feigns demilitarization and helps feign victimhood as they still do in 2024 trying to build memorials for Hiroshima after bombing Asian capitalist cities (30 million killed, no wonder 1 billion Asians cheered how nukes ended WW2, and Japan themselves were developing 2 nukes and planned to extend germ bombings to America in September of 1945 to stall for time to finish said nukes) and allying with communists in WW2 to get them in power, and using the money to build postwar Japanese economy, revisionism pushed in 2024 by sons of WW2 fascist leaders in the ruling party who blame other countries for objecting to it. 🤨
Again, Gentech does not know Japan has been in a recession for 30 years. Foreigners may refer to "the lost decade" except in Japan the media calls it "The Lost 30 years," it's not just a decade.
If you look at actual Japanese economic articles like Nikkei and Toyo Keizai (in original Japanese not their English outlets), all the rage these days are about people worrying about the various taxes when added up practically being 50% like in the old days _(back when samurai used to oppress people with high taxes for war, and sell them as slaves overseas to buy gunpowder, and infanticides called Mabiki were so common it was nonchalantly done even in 1800s when Sato Nobuhiro, citing specific statistics per region estimated the average household kills a child every 3 years)._ 🤨 People clamoring for minimum wage hikes, citing it is lower than their neighbor South Korea's. Banks actually ASK you to pay them for safekeeping your money instead of giving you an interest.😡 It has not been long since banks got rid of floppy disks, and the National Diet (Parliament) is citing South Korea and Germany for digitized governance which Japan is sorely lacking (a land of faxes and stamps, which they tried to improve with establishing a new wing in the administration called the Digital Agency... run by offline meetings as per typical Japanese organizations. When the first leader of the Digital Agency is the head of the Japanese Stamp Association... conflict of interest?). Toshiba fell, Sharp has been bought up, and Japanese criticize how they have become like China using tax money to entice foreign industries to build factories there (like TSMC). Price-gouging tourists going to Japan if they are foreigners, citing Thailand does it, is now a serious talking point, people arguing this is practical and those who think it is undignified to deign doing what those southeast Asians do. 🤔
And ofc now having a lower GDP per capita than South Korea is a talking point in Japan as well.
He really should not talk about having a "high GDP per capita" when he comes from the perspective of America, which has double Japan's GDP per capita. 😎 Proves he did not do any research. Singapore has it slightly higher than America, but that's typical for very small countries where big corporation's GDP takes a bigger portion of the national production than larger countries.
Japan has for years tried to send military ships to claim Korean islands then feigned victimhood of being occupied by Koreans, what demilitarization?
This video exudes the typical "wow Japanese toilets are so advanced with heating" kind of idiotic mentality... while not knowing Japanese homes don't even have indoor heating (bar the expensive ones), and every year you hear people dying from monoxide poisoning due to burning things indoors to weather through cold winters.🤨
Did you say "anti-dolphin education"?
Yep. Alan has some kin of long-standing grudge against dolphins. I think his line is that they are aliens. I'm not sure how/when/why it started, so if someone else knows, I would love to hear it.
@@Skye_Writer ah! Brilliant, thanks for explaining
The sequel trilogy should've been about the Yuuzhan Vong Invasion. Have Palpatine be accidentally correct about creating a ginormous military bureaucracy.
Screw the Vong this was one of the worst writings ever done and should have never had any place in Star Wars. Besides problem. The whole Vong BS was created much much later and today some People trying to Retcon the shit out of it of course to make Palpatine and the Empire seem less evil.
@@zerosusaku Even NJO argues against the "Palpatine just wanted to protect the galaxy" BS, by Han telling the Imperial to STFU about how the Empire would've been better prepared.
Thrawn:"there seem to be no sign of intelligence life form"
Is Build-A-Bear really only that old?!
So the Emperor should have gone down the Hello Kitty road?
Meow😂
The Sith ideology doomed the Empire
The Empire should’ve just looked to the Roman and later Eastern Roman Empire for inspiration.
12:00 They had an enemy to fight. Yu Zhan Vongs were a big threat and Empire needed to keep very powerfull Military and Navy to defend from future invasion.
What if a modern earth like civilization existed in the Star wars galaxy.
Advanced races would simply avoid contact. Mean while eating popcorn 🍿 while betting on winners of punny earth wars 😅
Tie Defenders...lot's of Tie Defenders.
I really appreciate your in-depth looks and side-by-side comparisons with the world. Breaking down the myth and extracting true value from it. I say it often, but you're exactly the kind of content creator that George Lucas would have loved to talk to. Keep it up!
Very much a cultural thing too. In Japan, Korea, Singapore, Switz, etc, it's more "what can I do for society". In Japan, guns, drugs, crime, etc are all very taboo and looked down upon with disgust, so the strict rules on them are seen as fair, and rule breakers should be punished. In the West, it's more "what can society do for me". Implement the same strict rules and it'd be an infringement on personal freedom, and people seem to favor leniency even if the rules are broken.
Yeah I’ve always said in the west we can learn from the more communal thinking of the east. And the east needs to value individualism and the value of the individual more.
@@GenerationTech It's always deciding where that "happy balance" should be that's the hard part.
The problem with military spending is, if you haven't been allocating money to it, you wont have the training programs or the equipment in place when you need it. There's also the costly research programs required to keep technology current - which can take decades before they see tangible results. Not to mention that having the big stick present can prevent costly war from occurring in the first place. It's a balancing act between over spending, and not protecting your territory enough.
As far as the post war empire is concerned, there are still gangsters and criminal elements, not to mention the potential threat from secessionists that decide they want to go aggressive and attack their peaceful neighbors. Galaxies are massive, with millions of planets. Even if you say the majority of them are uninhabitable, a galaxy like the Star Wars universe should still have thousands of habitable planets. There's likely some form of conflict going on at all times. The Empire would need the military might to settle that conflict, even if they didn't actually use it.
The vast majority of The Empire's military might, is required just to keep it from collapsing in on itself. That's actually what the Death Star was designed to do, keep planetary factions from stepping out of line, which would free up Tarken Doctrine navy assets for other purposes: either to downsize, or to direct to conflict zones where the Death Star wouldn't be useful.
There's many more reasons why nation states need military assets, but I'll end my essay here.
The Rule of Two was the issue. Two Sith can make a strong super Sith capable of defeating the Jedi, but it doesn't leave room for any weaker more pragmatic Sith to govern or run the Empire. When Palpatine took over and functionally eliminated the Jedi Order, all his Sith philosophies turned inward and created the same kind of environment of internal struggle that Tenebrae's Sith Empire had, but without the actual Force sensitive Sith underlings who benefited from this kind of environment. In Tenebrae's empire, strong pragmatic Sith rose to the top and formed islands of competition around themselves so that while there may be unhealthy competition in their lower ranks, the departments themselves tended to not compete as much because there were always stronger Sith above them, with the Emperor being stronger still. While the non-Force sensitives could sometimes be caught in this, they were more or less left alone and could even prosper so long as they followed the rules. The strong competed against the strong and left the weak alone. In Palpatine's empire, the departments and divisions were turned against each other instead and tore holes in the fabric of the government with the average citizen feeling the consequences.
Good points. I think in Legends, Palpatine planned to replace all government officials with Dark Side Adepts eventually.
The way the Galactic Empire had been run, it wouldn't work. Thrawn's version of the Empire, the Empire of The Hand, is what the could have been. It's actually a confederacy run by competent leaders that follow a meritocracy and a doctrine that benefits society as a whole. It is strict yet fair. It is efficient yet allows flexibility and personal initiative. It is versed in war yet they see their cause as both a source of pride while protect the innocent and all beings in their care. They prioritize peace, stability, and order but are not afraid to fight for their existence, for their families and comrades, and for the ideals they are willing to die for.
You make really good points there are a lot of laws and systems that are poorly designed in America. I always enjoy the breakdowns in Star Wars using real world examples really puts everything into perspective.
Merica is in a transitional state. In near future it could become more socialistic and diplomatic like EU. Or, if citizens are not careful, end up like Russia with an authoritarian leader in 50+ years. Only time will tell.😊
Great analysis of discipline and orderly societies. This is why Imperial Remnant survived. Gilad Pellaeon used most levelheaded strategies and laws of former Galactic Empire to reform and protect the New Order.
The Empire should have been more like Rome as basically every successful Empire strives to be. If an area is free from resistance, it can basically do anything as long as it pays taxes. Resistance is met on a sliding scale. A graffiti artist would get a slap on the wrist from locals. A violent crime would mean prison or worse. An open rebellion would mean a response from the Roman army. The more damage done during the rebellion, the worse the punishment and longer the occupation to rebuild would last. One of the few times Rome pulled a Death Star was on Carthage and that was due to a war that NEARLY wiped out Rome.
I adore this channel a lot. It could be a history channel not just for Star Wars but also the real world.
The Empire's overt over-militarization would make sense in a more realistic and less utopian galaxy. Pretty much every CANON piece of media makes it seem like there's only 2 or 3 factions present in the Galaxy at any one time. Republic vs Sith Empire, Republic vs Confederacy, Empire vs Rebels, etc. As fantastic a setting as Star Wars is, it is woefully undeveloped in the Canon sources.
Just consider the state of the galaxy before the Clone Wars. A de-militarized central government presiding over a thousand years of peace?! Bullshit. In a more realistic setting, there'd be constant war between the millions of species, religions, cultures, and ideologies. Not to mention resource and territory wars, religious wars, and petty wars of revenge. If the Galaxy was presented in a more realistic fashion instead of as an impossible utopia, the Empire would make a LOT more sense.
Still written to be stupid evil oppressors, but at least they'd have some form of justification.
I my head cannon I always felt the sith needed upheaval and suffering in the galaxy to draw their power from. A peaceful galaxy would weaken the Emporer.
Or perhaps Sith get replaced. Over time Empire develops into constitutional monarchy 😊 Or confederacy.
Fun bit of trivia. People pleasing is cheaper than militarism.
The Empire could have lasted a thousand years if Palpatine wasn't Palpatine.
Palpatines madness caused the whole Galaxy to go mad... where did I hear that before...
I think a better story is the empire after termination of their esoteric leaders became a secular entity that ruled the galaxy for 1000 years. Rebel leaders were offered place in the noble ranks thus dissolved this opposition. Luke distant himself from the Jedi practice of abduct children, while sealed all knowledge of force, someday to be rediscovered.
I left Portland 2 years ago because of the lack of drug laws in recent years. It has helped no body and hurt everyone. It was so sad to see and it isn't getting better. Now they are trying to undo the damage they've allowed for years
that and the woke DAs who dont like putting people in jail or prison anymore
@dylanram4653 exactly. Hard working citizens are calling 911 for crimes happening in their home...and nothing is done about it. It's insanity.
Well in legends the empire lasted for centuries, although it eventually changed names but it was still the empire. The galactic empire, Imperial remnants, - Empire of the hand - Fel Empire.
Great video, I never looked at it this way before.
I’ve grown to like your perspective more and more
Love the real-world analysis you always bring into your videos!
Maybe Palpatine always wanted the whole universe to be at war and maybe this fueled his darkside force. Seeing suffering while he's enjoying the whole thing from a throne.
I don't think he gave 2 shits about anything but himself and being immortal.
I like him saying swizterland is somewhat top-down driven or centralized government control. Please check what you are saying before saying it. I don't think there is a less centralized or less people power state than Switzerland. 2:30
The Empire will forever remain in my heart
About the Singapore thing, you can’t be nice to malicious people - on top of that, there’s an issue of druggies not seeing it as an issue
Alcoholics know it’s an issue, druggies ignore the state they fall to
More than anything they were brought around to destroy
Facts
Lol what a bunch of complete BS. Alcohol is the same drug as lets say Meth or Grass and causes every year masive Damage and Deaths. Its just with so many Poeple adicted no Gouverment realy consider a Nationwide Ban.
A province in Canada got approval from the federal government to decriminalize the use of numerous hard drugs in the attempt to focus on rehabilitation of individuals that use them rather than criminal punishment. However the initial legislation allowed anyone to publicly carry and use up to a certain amount. They had to amend it to not allow for open public use.
It’s a prime example of government stepping in to create legislation that actually eases requirements or burdens on its citizens in an attempt to improve their lives. But only time will tell how effective it actually is.
To be fair Palpatine had 10 years before the rise of the empire. With the help of the senate, which he dissolved just before the battle of Yavin.
30 years of success with the senate, then it collapsed after 4-5 years.
The empire lasted longer than I have been alive
Why didn't they put boba fet in andor. And why couldn't the Kaminoins visit boba in jail to get a genetic sample.
Was the empiral prison system like in Andor at time of the Bad Batch
The only reason the empire lost to the rebels was heavy plot Armour. The empire with its resources and extensive presence in the galaxy except the unknown areas and the outer rim. Would've taken advantage of this along with the implementation of chain codes and other control measures. There's another vid on YT showing this + more on how it was literally plot Armour that have the empire the short end of the stick.
Lol of course it was. Overall the Empire should have never lost. But since this was never the intended Story they did. I mean there could have been ways and even Plapatine and Vader had countless times Plot Armour but still.
Compromise. You said it all with one simple word. Too bad nobody wants to do that
11:53 LMFAO he did not just say that 💀 FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA
He said in the 40s you idiot not modern day Jesus you people are so stupid no wonder why the war hasn’t changed for a year
For real, I was like "WRONG COMPARISON MY FRIEND"
@@DarthLenaPlant he said 40s DO YOU PEOPLE NOT WATCH THE VIDEO
@@Godzillafan78watch what you plan on common? That too much of an ask
It would be fun if games like stellaris and similar simulated this. That simply put, war is expensive, prohibitively so!
The key essence of a well governed state is "subsidiarity" allowing local institutions to do their own thing with little interference "from the top", unless the localities request assistance.
When any institution of a higher order involves itself in the affairs of institutions of thr lower order, there will always be inefficiencies and then more regulation, and then pushback.
Palpatine was a sith, following the sith code where it says peace is a lie and only through power can you break the chains of the force.
Ultimately was an extension of Palpatine's drive. He wanted everyone at each other's throats while perusing his quest for immortality and power.
Empire could’ve succeeded if Palpatine wasn’t so focused on his own power.
Palpatine using his cunning and genius to manipulate the whole clone wars and pretty much everything, then slipped up running the empire
I mean he was probaly one of the most if not the most Arogant Idiot in the Galxy. After all the wins he got he just belived he can never fail.
I feel like you have to have a combination of both to have a successful society that lasts an extremely long time. You have to have the freedom and liberty provided to the people so that they can make their own choices, creating a happier and healthier people. But you also have to have a government or a government structure that is able to plan for long-term events, climate change is a perfect example. Infrastructure like dams, roads and communication networks, all these things need to be planned out and thought of in terms of expansion and future needs. And companies and individuals can't think on that large and long-term of scale. Most companies only really care about quarterly profits. Individuals can only think in a 10-year time frame. So I feel like it's really about balancing those two things, having freedom for your people to make individual choices, but also having the ability to plan long-term for eventual outcomes within your society.
A hundred percent we have the answer for the perfect system amongst the many unique government systems and cultures in the world. We just need to learn from each other more.
And there is limited freedom of speech in Singapore with the reason to prevent disharmony especially among the different races living there.
The people who fail to realize this are the same people who rant and rave about diversity being needed lmfao
Well palpatine was certainly no napoleon.
Palps was more Hitler than Napolian.😅
Military-industrial complexes create a pressure to use your military. Very dangerous game.
how to make an evil galactic empire last 1000 years: don't be an evil galactic empire
As a German let me just say we tried our Hand also on that 1000 Year Reich think...we got 12 out of 1000😂
Gentech did not do any real world research, parroting propagandized impressions that have been hammered for 30 years. Does he not know Japan has been in a recession for 30 years? 🙄
4:08 "Stability creates economic growth" 7:00 "High GDP per capita" Japanese GDP per capita is low. 7:40 "Hello Kitty to demilitarize its society" this does not demilitarize society when you have anime girls for recruitment advertisements. It only feigns demilitarization and helps feign victimhood as they still do in 2024 trying to build memorials for Hiroshima after bombing Asian capitalist cities (30 million killed, no wonder 1 billion Asians cheered how nukes ended WW2, and Japan themselves were developing 2 nukes and planned to extend germ bombings to America in September of 1945 to stall for time to finish said nukes) and allying with communists in WW2 to get them in power, and using the money to build postwar Japanese economy, revisionism pushed in 2024 by sons of WW2 fascist leaders in the ruling party who blame other countries for objecting to it. 🤨
Again, Gentech does not know Japan has been in a recession for 30 years. Foreigners may refer to "the lost decade" except in Japan the media calls it "The Lost 30 years," it's not just a decade.
If you look at actual Japanese economic articles like Nikkei and Toyo Keizai (in original Japanese not their English outlets), all the rage these days are about people worrying about the various taxes when added up practically being 50% like in the old days _(back when samurai used to oppress people with high taxes for war, and sell them as slaves overseas to buy gunpowder, and infanticides called Mabiki were so common it was nonchalantly done even in 1800s when Sato Nobuhiro, citing specific statistics per region estimated the average household kills a child every 3 years)._ 🤨 People clamoring for minimum wage hikes, citing it is lower than their neighbor South Korea's. Banks actually ASK you to pay them for safekeeping your money instead of giving you an interest.😡 It has not been long since banks got rid of floppy disks, and the National Diet (Parliament) is citing South Korea and Germany for digitized governance which Japan is sorely lacking (a land of faxes and stamps, which they tried to improve with establishing a new wing in the administration called the Digital Agency... run by offline meetings as per typical Japanese organizations. When the first leader of the Digital Agency is the head of the Japanese Stamp Association... conflict of interest?). Toshiba fell, Sharp has been bought up, and Japanese criticize how they have become like China using tax money to entice foreign industries to build factories there (like TSMC). Price-gouging tourists going to Japan if they are foreigners, citing Thailand does it, is now a serious talking point, people arguing this is practical and those who think it is undignified to deign doing what those southeast Asians do. 🤔
And ofc now having a lower GDP per capita than South Korea is a talking point in Japan as well.
He really should not talk about having a "high GDP per capita" when he comes from the perspective of America, which has double Japan's GDP per capita. 😎 Proves he did not do any research. Singapore has it slightly higher than America, but that's typical for very small countries where big corporation's GDP takes a bigger portion of the national production than larger countries.
Japan has for years tried to send military ships to claim Korean islands then feigned victimhood of being occupied by Koreans, what demilitarization?
This video exudes the typical "wow Japanese toilets are so advanced with heating" kind of idiotic mentality... while not knowing Japanese homes don't even have indoor heating (bar the expensive ones), and every year you hear people dying from monoxide poisoning due to burning things indoors to weather through cold winters.🤨
There's always another chance
Be more democratic in the future. Give people what they need as well as self determination. Also take care of citizens and keep major military within borders unless allies need help.😊
And why was that? Was it because the German people took issue with the Nazis or because the United Nations beat the shit out the Wehrmacht at the great cost of their own populations?
Look if you look at legends palpatine knew the galaxy was facing an existential crisis in the future. He saw the yuzahn bong were coming and he knew traditional republic defenses were not going to stop them that's why he spent so much effort and monies on super weapons . Where he screwed up he put too much pressure on the populace. What he should have done was told the galaxy that the vong were coming and they needed new tech to fight their biotech
Actually, you're wrong and right the Empire lasted a mere thirty in canon but in legends AKA the true canon, the Empire lasted well over one hundred years.
The Empire only lasted 24 years in canon. Also technically in Legends the Empire only lasted 138 years, only because it continued to exist in various forms. But should we count those various forms as one fully united Empire? Or separate Empires?
Also legends has the version of Palpatine that could cook 99.99% of all the Sith, just by force abilities and accomplishments alone. In legends, Palpatine's aura is enough to corrupt the life force of entire planets.
@isimperialist Yes, we should because the Imperial Remnant carried on the empire that Palpatine founded even when it became the Fel Empire: we don't stop saying the United States ceased to exist as a nation because the United States that emerged from the American Civil War was drastically different then the United States that existed before.
@@nickyounger8814 The United States that emerged from the Civil War wasn't the drastically different. The only thing the Civil War did was establish a much more powerful federal force and entity, along with skyrocketing American patriotism. We don't say it was a different nation, because the government that went into the Civil War, was the same government that won the Civil War.
While in the Empire's case, The Fel Empire was drastically way different from the actual Empire. It did not even share the same government. The Empire's government literally changed in various forms. This isn't comparable to the American Civil War, because the Government didn't change, it only became more centralized and more powerful. The Empire's government changed in form and power. The American government only changed in power, it didn't change in form. None of the systems of the government were changed or recreated. It wasn't drastically different from before the Civil War.
Actually, yes, it was different. Prior to the civil war, most Americans were more loyal to the state they lived in, and the idea of national unity didn't exist, but the point is moot. However, now that I think about it, a better example would be the Byzantine Empire. To historians, it is considered a separate entity from the Roman Empire, but it was still considered the Roman Empire, much like both the Imperial Remnant and Fel Empire were different from the Empire under Palpatine but it was still the Empire.
@@nickyounger8814 Actually prior to the Civil War most Americans were little patriotic to the state. That is why the South rebelled, they didn't trust the government to protect their plantations. US patriotism didn't really begin until after the Civil War. The nation had just survived its real first challenge as a state and experiment. Due to this time of trust was given to the government by the people. But none of its systems were changed or altered. The federal government was only granted more power after the Civil War. Also manifest destiny, was an idea before the Civil War, but wasn't that popular until after. When American patriotism really kicked off, when the government started expanding into and developing the West.
Now the Byzantine would be a good example. Except they weren't considered to still be the Roman Empire, they were actually considered to be the Successor State of Rome. Byzantine was also known as the Eastern Roman Empire, not the Roman Empire. That's probably where you get your misconception from. Also again the Byzantine form of government and power was far more different than the original Roman Empire. Same with the Galactic Empire and the Fel Empire. Both should be considered separate entities.
If you avoid war at _all_ cost that could maneuver you into a position where war happens anyway but gets even worse than it would have been if you went all in earlier. Of course that doesn't mean you should seek war either.
Its "stable and good" for the ones you can see, while there are millions unseen ones suffering so that the privileged ones can enjoy that clean luxurious life. Something like the empire could last a thousand years but it would be a thousand years of "stable" suffering for most
France sitting on the sidelines when germany shows up
Honestly I question the comparison to nations like Japan. Yes their governments are more centralized and they’re not socially perfect. As someone who wants to move to Japan and is only half-Japanese, I be a fool not to know this. Still, it feels like one simple difference between all the countries listed and the Empire is that they are democracies with relatively free press. The reason the LDP in Japan is still in charge is because most folks don’t think anyone else can run the country even if they disagree with the LDP on issues. The LDP’s quite conservative compared to other governments in the west, but I wouldn’t say it’s comparable to an authoritarian running an empire.
All he had to do was keep the senate going
If the Empire had been a more stable and well-liked government, Luke Skywalker might have grown up loyal to it, possibly even joining the Imperial Navy. This could have led to a meeting with Darth Vader, though Vader's past might have remained hidden. Without the emotional trigger of saving Luke, Vader's redemption might not have happened. The remaining Jedi would likely still be hunted, but perhaps less urgently. The Empire's longevity would depend on its ability to maintain order and address the issues that fueled rebellion.
Something I came up with in high school was, "rules for the sake of having rules does not order make." Basically meaning rules must serve a purpose, but in retrospect sounds like Yoda lol
Go full Yoda, you must.
In my opinion el salvador is the closest comparison to the empire with its new harsh policies. They do work, but you know it ain't seemingly that moral. Yet about the fact that the empire only lasted a few years, the empire was fully ruled by palpatine. Then he died and the empire was left as a disorganized mess. It's like alexander the great dying and with no heir, that thing will not hold. Monarchies, empires or dictatorships don't end because they are immoral, but because people want to profit of of them falling apart. Oligarchs, Aristocrats forced monarchies to let them have a say. England does not have a parliament just because the people wanted that. No. Aristocrats wanted more power and they got it usually during a not so good time for the king. America fought for democracy not because it wanted to be more free. They fought so they wouldn't have to pay taxes. And then when the people wanted to actually have a say, they introduced the executive branch to keep it under control. Of course if you want to replace things to be more advantageous to you, you have to offer something, like a government that seems more free. I'm about to get into deep conspiracies so I'll stop.
Gotta blame Anakin’s meddling kids