7:59 I got chills.. WHAT THE FUCK!? Brooooo, bands today are either skating easy, saying they write shit an work hours and days and weeks in the studio... or they just do this shit and take a 6 month vacation then put personal twists on whatever this generates. I'm both incredibly impressed and terrified.
That's because the "basic mode" of Suno, or just asking ChatGPT to "write a song about X", is not nearly specific enough to get good lyrics. You're asking an AI that's read a huge chunk of content written by all different people to write about a topic -- it's going to just average everything together, giving you an average song. (And in the case of Suno's "basic" mode, it includes the genre *in the same prompt as the lyrics* with equal attention, which is why you get dumb genre references in the lyrics themselves.) This is why, to get decent AI lyrics, you need to be specific with the prompts: give it a specific perspective to write from, and maybe some memories to draw inspiration from. That's how my project Synthia Nova works (on my personal channel, @IceMetalPunk; this is my work account). Are the lyrics perfect? No. But they're far better than just the basic prompts give you.
Dude. I just tried it out and gave it a prompt to put out a Metal Gear Rising style song. My. Jaw. Is. On. The. Floor. It got the song strucure right. It got the lenght right. It got the lyrics and storytelling aspect right. It switched between metal and synthy epic, motivational choruses. I'm done. I'm actually done. Edit: Yeah. So, I just asked it to generate a 2000's Metalcore song with clean vocals in the chorus. Lyrics were generated by ChatGPT. I need to share this with Nik, I'm not even kidding. This is insane.
You can extend songs too and combine them by using the "get whole song" option. In the lyrics section you can put stuff in brackets for it to do like [guitar solo] or [end song], it helps construct a full idea.
@@Zack0409 It's Suno . There is a free version, where you get 50 credits a day. It generates 2 songs per generation, which uses 5 credits each. So in a day you can get 2 versions of 5 songs. Each song is 2 minutes long. If you extend a song, it generates an extra 1 minute; this still costs 5 credits. I use it on PC, I'm not sure if it is on iPhone or Android as well.
In 10 years : A: Whats you job? B: I'm a musician! A: Oh really? What instruments you're playing and what genre? B: Instruments? Whazzat? I press a "Generate" button trice a month and music comes out and I sell it. I call it Futurecore. A: Uhhhhhh......?
A. Thanks, anyway. B. So, when do I start? A. You don't. B. I don't? What do you mean I don't? A. You don't. You're not getting the job. The end. B. I'm not getting the job? I don't get it, all I said was "I press a 'Generate' button" and- A. That's the point. You use AI to do all the work *for* you. And, from what I've seen, that doesn't guarantee you a job. Come back when you learn an instrument.
“Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.” -Dune Stay frosty, people
You don't get paid to do any of those things (in fact, getting groceries makes *you* pay). So if it's not about losing a job, then an AI making music in no way stops you from making music, too, if you enjoy it. Like, Beyonce and Ed Sheeran are way more talented singers than me, but I still enjoy singing anyway.
Coming from the Dennis fan-club to once again say- His stream and stuff was NOT AI. He wrote all the code himself and sampled his guitars. Procedural generation my guy, not AI. He puts in HEAPS of work.
What can they do? The greedy companies have stolen their centuries long hard work without asking them and are going to make billions through subscription fees, rendering all artists dead or living irrelevant.
I think you nailed it on the head with it being a great writing *tool*. As someone who typically writes the instrumental first and then vocals, I've been able to flip the process on its head and start with lyrics first (not using the Suno auto generated/ChatGPT lyrics), experiment with different vocal cadences, and get ideas about the song structure. I also have a huge pile of lyrics written that have never found a home, and this has turned them into a rapid fire brainstorming method which definitely helped me curb the writer's block. Honestly, I would compare it more to collaborating with someone than it being useful as a "full song generator". Sometimes all it takes is a tiny idea or snippet for our brains to just run with it and make something fantastic.
Totally agree--and my story is similar to yours. Had a buncha words I'd written in various notebooks, from way WAY back in the day, to today that I never put to music. Finally hearing those words come to life damn near brought a tear to my eye. Ai music and my lyrics turned out to be a pretty good combo. Radio hits I tell ya... radio hits!..
@@SineEyed I definitely had some tear jerker moments with a few of the more "close to the heart" songs I wrote and...ooof...hit me right in the feely feel spot.
Out of curiosity I tried putting some of my lyrics (that as yet have no music) into udio. The results were not musically inspiring, but it did come up with some phrasings and lyric rhythm that I never would have thought of, totally opened up a new perspective on how to proceed with the song. I probably won't use any of the ideas but it has at least broken through a block I was having.
@@scrutinyofthereptile666 yeah the vocal cadence can be awkward at times but it did nail a few of my ideas on the head. The Oceans demo on my channel is the ai vox from udio. Pretty much matched what I envisioned 100% (moved to an apartment, no more screamy bois for me)
Hey! Just wanted to say that it works well only with all of EDM and 'calmer' type of songs. Suno can only generate cool Heavy and Power metal songs, but not djent, deathcore, etc.
That's the thing. Artists should try to utilize AI as a tool in developing new songs, but when it comes to being every kind of genre based on information that's been fed to the AI could be copyrighted intellectual property could bring up plagiarism problems. Gotta be used as a tool, not a replacement.
Suno has been fun for me lately because I love the thought of brewing music and making ridiculous songs, but lack the necessary skill and the time to learn. I love the custom lyrics option because I can get more creative with it and I’ve been making the goofiest shit this past week. Honestly super funny to me when a song actually sounds really good, but has stupid lyrics. 😂
@@fallensoildierMusic is also performance though, which AI will never remotely emulate. Sounding like a performance =/= a performance, and it will never signal intention the way a musician does
@@Sergio-nb4hj im not arguing that haha that has Nothing to do with the speed 😅😅 the Topic here was that for computers music is more easy to “simulate” than an image “visual Art”
@@thelilpeanutdotgov Udio doesn't do anything well other than sound more djent/jazz because it's bad. It sounds like suno v1. It doesn't think like a composer at all and doesn't have any data related to actually writing songs.
I did not expect AI music to come this fast... now i am just hoping there will be no AI software like stable difussion but for music where you can freely, locally train the AI with specific artist's style
So weird you put this out today. i just had my mind blown earlier by prompting UDIO with some "brutal, djent, prog, ambient, instrumental" etc prompts. The shit it came up with was scary, inspiring in some cases. Haven't tried the other AI (Suno) yet. Paraphrasing papa Beato: "Consumers" absolutely won't care what made the music if they like it. Yet humans will still create because of the joy of creation. Fun times ahead!
Vocaloids are already kinda popular in some circles. I can't see songs like this selling out stadiums, but blending AI music with a money-hungry studio is going to produce results.
Had a lot of fun recently with the Mettle Goose project which is pairing Mother Goose nursery rhymes with metal using to the power of AI. It's been interesting to see what it can come up with, although at this stage it does take a fair amount of (human) time and effort to stitch together something coherent that was vaguely what you had in mind as AI has a habit of going off on its own tangents. The rate this tech is advancing though, much of the current limitations will probably no longer be an issue in the very near future. Definitely going to change many areas of the music industry.
v3.5 is out you still need several attempts and you have to spend some time with it. I need about 40-50 attempts to get a 2-3 minute song that meets my own requirements. But what I really enjoy is writing the lyrics myself and then having a suitable song created.
It is definitely the best writing tool for EVERY musician, and I made it to hit a very special vibe with the right input. A personal style with exactly the elements I wanted. A musician's writer's block? A thing of the past. Actually, this beats EVERYTHING I had in hands before, and the downsides are VERY few, like it does not always chose the best song structures. But the elements and ideas it can put out - insane. And it can really help with production, giving you the right ideas how things could sound. Super-impressive. I already waited for you bringing this one on the table, and I totally agree with your review. Amazing stuff.
@@Illumirage It this is your idea of making music, better stop listening to ANY music. Because it's cheating. Getting ideas from the work of others. No?
@@imcrazedandconfused Nope. Ten years ago you couldn't snap your fingers and a song would appear. That's an apples to oranges comparison. Sorry. You are wrong.
@@Illumirage AI will never be like "Snap your fingers and it will be a song." And if it sounds like you wrote a song, you should better not write songs. It is still a machine. It is like google. "Oh, now all journalists and data miners will be out of job!" Not happening. Because the machine still can not think. It can not feel. It has no idea what it is doing And if a machine can do your job, you should better look out for a new job. Has always been like this.
I watch the Dropouts podcast and one of the hosts (Zach Justice) made funny songs using AI about each of the people on the podcast. The one he made about Tara Yummy (another host) was actually so good and all the viewers loved it. They made it in to a music video and it got a shit ton of views bc it's a banger lol!! It's kinda scary (and a little cool) that AI can do that!
The song is called "where'd you wake up this morning" on the Dropouts podcast page. Please, someone listen to it and tell me if I'm crazy. I think it's a good pop punk sounding song. It's wild that it's AI!!
It's called "where'd you wake up this morning" on the Dropouts podcast channel. Someone listen to it and tell me if I'm crazy or not but it sounds like a good pop punk song lol I can't believe it's fucking AI! it's wild!
I've actually been listening to a lot of Obscurest Vinyl. It's A.I. creating joke 50s and 60s songs, with titles like "I Glued My Balls to My Butthole again," "You Look Like You Could Use This Fuckin Lamp" and "This Baptism Fucking Blows (Just Dunk the Kid Already)." The best part is my parents have their own personal mix of 50s and 60s songs on Spotify and I mixed the Obscurest Vinyl songs in. I'm excitedly waiting for that inevitable phone call.
You can just click Custom mode and ask it to generate lyrics based on a prompt, so that you can preview them and not waste an attempt with random lyrics. Once you get good lyrics, you can modify them or proceed with your generation attempt.
Actually, the app Udio is way better than Suno...you should really give that a try, the vocals are much better and the sound as a whole sounds less "noisy"? Sounds more polished really
Once you listen to a lot of metal you really hear the same things over and over. AI copies what we do and does it well so its easy to make something recognizable.
I've recently been experimenting around with AI generated metal. I enjoy writing. Putting my lyrics to music is just euphoric. Uploaded 3 fairly different tracks so far.
Are you also sad that Google is a more efficient way of searching for things than looking it up in a thesaurus or the yellow pages or recipes from a cook book etc etc etc? Synthesisers have been able to generate music with little input from humans for decades at this point, AI is just a more efficient version of that. Nothing to be sad about.
Greed and curiosity. Having stolen centuries long blood, sweat and tears hard work of countless thousands of musicians, painters, writers, designers, etc., AI companies will make billions through subscription fees, rendering all artists dead or living irrelevant, and by depriving humans of the creative process, they will turn human into morons.
Here's the thing, digital artists have been screeching since the onset and the corporate world just wants to produce a cheap product they can capitalize on. Why pay anyone when the work is done by machine? My name is John Connor and you are the resistance.
@DM-pv4rw Damn right I have. Took a lot of genius to type the correct combination of words to direct the AI along the right path to invent consistent number one hits. We're actually touring next month so if you're still in the town of Gullible you should check us out
Who is acting like a comment was bait lol? I was going along with my originally incorrectly chosen words and just tried to make a joke out of it. I made a mistake. I accept that. Seems like your life is even more boring than mine 😉
@@Syans_Projecked all good until you called me gullible. thats not making a joke out of your mistake, that is acting like it wasnt a mistake, and calling someone gullible for not seeing how it "actually a joke the whole time".
been using Suno for 2 months and making absolute bangers in pop music that would make Swift weep. its been fun. not tried metal yet, done a few punk tunes.
Donna app is amazing. I’ve been messing with it making custom-made Power Ranger songs, parody songs remix of songs and I would have one ownership of a song is on RUclips right now.
@NikNocturnal you can extend the parts as many times as you want then Get whole song and put it out there it’s kind of insane what you can do you only scratch the surface
My dad in his 70s just bought a robot lawnmower. Try again. A few years ago I got an idea, wrote and recorded 5 songs, all tracking, meticulously programmed drums, etc. Not saying it was pro, I know my limits - but I was happy with it. Had some riffs and ideas for another 5 to finish the story, but needed a break. Came up for air, realized this exact thing was not far away, and my inspiration just evaporated. I couldn't justify the hours of toil, even just for my own satisfaction. I'm not mad, but it made me really recognize that these are crazy times to live in. We will have to redefine what it even means to create, contribute to society, and grow and develop as humans. 🤯
I mean is this really any different than huge artists like Rihanna, Justin Bieber, Britney Spears, Lady Gaga, etc. who have an entire team of people around them doing everything?
Smash like for computer noise breakdowns
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What AI did you use???
@@Miles2314 AI (Suno)
Did you see the baby metal / electric callboy announcement?
Please input country-core!
If AI can give Nik the STANK FACE, we're doomed.
Yo new band [Will add to the Death list soon :^]
Sexual moans on an AI-made RnB track is a vibe.
Ayo wtf
Soon we will have A.I. Nocturnal doing stank faces and having voicecracks
Holy that dubstep melody goes insanely hard, I need a serious version of that
Srsly it’s a bop
7:59 I got chills.. WHAT THE FUCK!? Brooooo, bands today are either skating easy, saying they write shit an work hours and days and weeks in the studio... or they just do this shit and take a 6 month vacation then put personal twists on whatever this generates.
I'm both incredibly impressed and terrified.
Songwriters must be sweating. Asking Alexandria won't need to hire anyone to write their next album now.
😂😂
😂
Hey! Danny writes his own country music 😂
Who did they hire?😂
GOD 🔥
@7:45 I genuinely would playlist that song. So good.
me too
some Invent Animate vibes tho ngl
okay maybe not so much but like damn
Lmaoooo @ 2:18 it says "THIS IS SUCH A COOL BEATDOWN" BAAHHAAA oh holy hell thats funny. Its like:
extreme vocal skill - 99%
Songwriting skill - 1%
The songwriting is actually terrible i love it
😂😂😂😂 high school metalcore band lyrics
@@funsimulator7246bruh it is usually pretty good.
That's because the "basic mode" of Suno, or just asking ChatGPT to "write a song about X", is not nearly specific enough to get good lyrics. You're asking an AI that's read a huge chunk of content written by all different people to write about a topic -- it's going to just average everything together, giving you an average song. (And in the case of Suno's "basic" mode, it includes the genre *in the same prompt as the lyrics* with equal attention, which is why you get dumb genre references in the lyrics themselves.)
This is why, to get decent AI lyrics, you need to be specific with the prompts: give it a specific perspective to write from, and maybe some memories to draw inspiration from. That's how my project Synthia Nova works (on my personal channel, @IceMetalPunk; this is my work account). Are the lyrics perfect? No. But they're far better than just the basic prompts give you.
Dude. I just tried it out and gave it a prompt to put out a Metal Gear Rising style song. My. Jaw. Is. On. The. Floor. It got the song strucure right. It got the lenght right. It got the lyrics and storytelling aspect right. It switched between metal and synthy epic, motivational choruses.
I'm done. I'm actually done.
Edit: Yeah. So, I just asked it to generate a 2000's Metalcore song with clean vocals in the chorus. Lyrics were generated by ChatGPT. I need to share this with Nik, I'm not even kidding. This is insane.
I could share some songs too. It insane. 😅
Why is the dubstep trap metal So Fire dude
At 3:00 "what are these vocals ?"
Quick answer, sounds like alex screaming through an old static-y black and white TV down the hall.
That sounds terrible
Never felt so hopeless and hopeful at the same time
You can extend songs too and combine them by using the "get whole song" option. In the lyrics section you can put stuff in brackets for it to do like [guitar solo] or [end song], it helps construct a full idea.
What’s the app/program called? How much does it cost and is it on pc and iPhone? Thanks. I really wanna try this out.
I second this comment
@@Zack0409 It's Suno . There is a free version, where you get 50 credits a day. It generates 2 songs per generation, which uses 5 credits each. So in a day you can get 2 versions of 5 songs. Each song is 2 minutes long. If you extend a song, it generates an extra 1 minute; this still costs 5 credits. I use it on PC, I'm not sure if it is on iPhone or Android as well.
@@Zack0409 it's called Suno and is free for a limited amount of generations. Works on any device 👌
@@Zack0409 just google suno and login with mail, you can generate 5 songs (2 versions of each) each day for free
In 10 years : A: Whats you job? B: I'm a musician! A: Oh really? What instruments you're playing and what genre? B: Instruments? Whazzat? I press a "Generate" button trice a month and music comes out and I sell it. I call it Futurecore. A: Uhhhhhh......?
A. Thanks, anyway.
B. So, when do I start?
A. You don't.
B. I don't? What do you mean I don't?
A. You don't. You're not getting the job. The end.
B. I'm not getting the job? I don't get it, all I said was "I press a 'Generate' button" and-
A. That's the point. You use AI to do all the work *for* you. And, from what I've seen, that doesn't guarantee you a job. Come back when you learn an instrument.
futurecore is a name for an actual edm genre tho😭 it's basically speedcore + future bass
Okay yeah future core that actually sounds legitimate. Good job.
Fuckedupcore
sounds like people describing FL Studio and autotune not too long ago.
The Brazil flag in the backgrond is something else
Backgrond is wild
É pq ele ta namorando uma br?
Namora uma mina daqui
@@cortesdomatheusoceansofici7393 Nik nao tankou as americanas
2:57 this sounds so much like Reflections
“Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.”
-Dune
Stay frosty, people
This.
THIS
LOL "thinking".
I want AI to do my dishes, vacuum clean, clean my house, do groceries so i can focus on doing what i love, not the other way around….
This.
And go to work instead of me.
You don't get paid to do any of those things (in fact, getting groceries makes *you* pay). So if it's not about losing a job, then an AI making music in no way stops you from making music, too, if you enjoy it. Like, Beyonce and Ed Sheeran are way more talented singers than me, but I still enjoy singing anyway.
Oh It will do that, for the rich people.
@@BigO161107 Nah, human slaves are far cheaper than robot slaves.
Oh Jesus I involuntary headbanged.. we're all doomed, we're all jobless, welcome to the future fellow podpeople
That last song was extremely listenable… the upside of AI is that it will capture a wider slice of human creativity.
The downside is it will rob humans of the same creativity turning them into morons.
2:34 and 7:45 are straight up banger, I hope you extend these track and make them public!
I’ve used the app for 15 minutes and made at least 3 songs I’d actually listen to. This thing is crazy
What's the app?
@@archiecorduner7222Suno.
@@archiecorduner7222 This one is Suno. To me Udio is much better but if you wanna have fun just try em both
@@archiecorduner7222Suno
This is really crazy stuff at this point! Even in the last 2 years, the progress of this tech is astonishing!
Coming from the Dennis fan-club to once again say- His stream and stuff was NOT AI. He wrote all the code himself and sampled his guitars. Procedural generation my guy, not AI. He puts in HEAPS of work.
That Crimson Embrace went way too hard. You gotta remake it. Literally instant #1 baddiecore song in charts.
I like how all I wanted was AI to make my mixes not sound like shit, but nooooo, I just have to be kicked out of my art form 😂
Unless you are top tier like Slipknot, BMTH or Rise Against you are fucked
I was hoping you would cover Suno AI one day. I freaking LOVE it.
Musicians don't seem to be concerned about the data they trained these AI on.
What can they do? The greedy companies have stolen their centuries long hard work without asking them and are going to make billions through subscription fees, rendering all artists dead or living irrelevant.
Made an entire gym metal playlist with lyrics motivating me through each exercise and its hilarious.
It was fun making music while it lasted
Guess I’ll pick up gardening or something
Even if AI is able to replicate recordings perfectly, there is always gonna be a demand for live music!
AI will take over that eventually as well
@@StoriesOfSolitude idk about that. For whatever reason, people hate holograms!
@@solarnewborn I meant gardening 🤣
@@gabrielpeters929 Not only live. There will always be a demand for artists that people can feel they have a personal connection with.
7:45 Deftones x BMTH, this is sick!!
I love that Nik rejected the idea of letting the AI make a cancelled vocalist metal core song that sounds like DGD but then the AI made it anyway 4:55
Dich givts noch ist das krass
I think you nailed it on the head with it being a great writing *tool*. As someone who typically writes the instrumental first and then vocals, I've been able to flip the process on its head and start with lyrics first (not using the Suno auto generated/ChatGPT lyrics), experiment with different vocal cadences, and get ideas about the song structure. I also have a huge pile of lyrics written that have never found a home, and this has turned them into a rapid fire brainstorming method which definitely helped me curb the writer's block. Honestly, I would compare it more to collaborating with someone than it being useful as a "full song generator". Sometimes all it takes is a tiny idea or snippet for our brains to just run with it and make something fantastic.
Totally agree--and my story is similar to yours. Had a buncha words I'd written in various notebooks, from way WAY back in the day, to today that I never put to music. Finally hearing those words come to life damn near brought a tear to my eye. Ai music and my lyrics turned out to be a pretty good combo. Radio hits I tell ya... radio hits!..
@@SineEyed I definitely had some tear jerker moments with a few of the more "close to the heart" songs I wrote and...ooof...hit me right in the feely feel spot.
@@NullSignal care to share?..
Out of curiosity I tried putting some of my lyrics (that as yet have no music) into udio. The results were not musically inspiring, but it did come up with some phrasings and lyric rhythm that I never would have thought of, totally opened up a new perspective on how to proceed with the song. I probably won't use any of the ideas but it has at least broken through a block I was having.
@@scrutinyofthereptile666 yeah the vocal cadence can be awkward at times but it did nail a few of my ideas on the head. The Oceans demo on my channel is the ai vox from udio. Pretty much matched what I envisioned 100% (moved to an apartment, no more screamy bois for me)
What the flip?! 😂 this dubstep metal was so freaking good 😂
I need the full song on spotify lol
dude that dubstep metal was the best shit I have heard in months wtf
Hey! Just wanted to say that it works well only with all of EDM and 'calmer' type of songs. Suno can only generate cool Heavy and Power metal songs, but not djent, deathcore, etc.
That's the thing. Artists should try to utilize AI as a tool in developing new songs, but when it comes to being every kind of genre based on information that's been fed to the AI could be copyrighted intellectual property could bring up plagiarism problems. Gotta be used as a tool, not a replacement.
"Known about it for a bit"? Over a year bud. Just for everyone to know our Boi is on top of it!!!
The dubstep one was crazy
My friend decided to use this technology to make a rock song themed around me and it has the sickest guitar solo😂
Suno has been fun for me lately because I love the thought of brewing music and making ridiculous songs, but lack the necessary skill and the time to learn. I love the custom lyrics option because I can get more creative with it and I’ve been making the goofiest shit this past week. Honestly super funny to me when a song actually sounds really good, but has stupid lyrics. 😂
I feel like AI audio generation is now moving at a faster rate than image generation.
Yes cuz music is just math and computers are good with it since the beginning,… images are a little bit more complex
@@fallensoildierMusic is also performance though, which AI will never remotely emulate. Sounding like a performance =/= a performance, and it will never signal intention the way a musician does
@@Sergio-nb4hj im not arguing that haha that has Nothing to do with the speed 😅😅 the Topic here was that for computers music is more easy to “simulate” than an image “visual Art”
Found a power metal artist who had released 10 full length albums in 2023. Art was obviously AI and no doubt the music too.
I feel anxious about this
AI can only use what is out there as a reference. The more critical thinking power you give to AI the dumber decisions we will make.
Suno is good, but Udio is just insane. You should try it.
Whoah, just tried it, it IS good and its freaking me out
Udio is way worse in every way, your ears don't work
@@notreally-sf3df lol! I bet the world is also flat?
i feel like they both have their strengths and weaknesses, for example audio quality and prompt guidance, etc
@@thelilpeanutdotgov Udio doesn't do anything well other than sound more djent/jazz because it's bad. It sounds like suno v1. It doesn't think like a composer at all and doesn't have any data related to actually writing songs.
I did not expect AI music to come this fast... now i am just hoping there will be no AI software like stable difussion but for music where you can freely, locally train the AI with specific artist's style
Having an ai copy someone's style is the lamest, low IQ, caveman shit you could do with such an innovative tool..
So weird you put this out today. i just had my mind blown earlier by prompting UDIO with some "brutal, djent, prog, ambient, instrumental" etc prompts. The shit it came up with was scary, inspiring in some cases. Haven't tried the other AI (Suno) yet.
Paraphrasing papa Beato: "Consumers" absolutely won't care what made the music if they like it. Yet humans will still create because of the joy of creation. Fun times ahead!
Vocaloids are already kinda popular in some circles. I can't see songs like this selling out stadiums, but blending AI music with a money-hungry studio is going to produce results.
Udio is better imo
@@dffgffffffdddddddddddepends, suno does longer and it can be more creative but udio can make higher quality
"papa Beato"?? 🤮
Had a lot of fun recently with the Mettle Goose project which is pairing Mother Goose nursery rhymes with metal using to the power of AI. It's been interesting to see what it can come up with, although at this stage it does take a fair amount of (human) time and effort to stitch together something coherent that was vaguely what you had in mind as AI has a habit of going off on its own tangents.
The rate this tech is advancing though, much of the current limitations will probably no longer be an issue in the very near future. Definitely going to change many areas of the music industry.
We're all gonna lose our jobs.
I'll be long gone before a robot can do what I do in shipbuilding
Such a good comment
ya'll have jobs?
And AI bros will laugh the entire time like the soulless grifters they are.
🤝 (I'm an artist)
Suno is freaking amazing, me and my dude practically made an album over night just playing around.
**THIS IS SUCH A COOL BEATDOWN** WTF IS THAT OF A LINE😂😂
v3.5 is out
you still need several attempts and you have to spend some time with it.
I need about 40-50 attempts to get a 2-3 minute song that meets my own requirements.
But what I really enjoy is writing the lyrics myself and then having a suitable song created.
You always bring something unique to the table, can't get enough!
the irony of a bot commenting on this is very amusing
@@treepoder LOL you made my Friday with this comment.
That dubstep metal song is so beautiful
Yeah. This ended my musical journey in life. Packed up my guitars/bass/drums and recording equipment into the garage. There's no point anymore.
Same. I'm thinking about suicide rn, cause i did not nothing in uni but played guitar hoping that one day i'm gonna make tons of money...
lol ok buddy
That dubstep mash up was a banger!
We all hope AI wont be as good as real musicians. Could be good for ideas and learning however
yeah
I _desperately_ hope so as well...
It will surpass real musicians in a few months time
@@vincevangoat1I mean, if you enjoy it more than real music, that speaks more to how stupid your taste in music is.
@@vincevangoat1 Thats why we need governments to make strict regulations on ai development
The vocals in the beatdown prompt almost remind of Ronnie Radke’s lows on Escape The Fate’s The Guillotine
from A.I straight to just A.
Crimson embrace HAS to be made into a song. Daammnnn
It is definitely the best writing tool for EVERY musician, and I made it to hit a very special vibe with the right input. A personal style with exactly the elements I wanted. A musician's writer's block? A thing of the past. Actually, this beats EVERYTHING I had in hands before, and the downsides are VERY few, like it does not always chose the best song structures. But the elements and ideas it can put out - insane. And it can really help with production, giving you the right ideas how things could sound. Super-impressive.
I already waited for you bringing this one on the table, and I totally agree with your review.
Amazing stuff.
cheating. Do your own work.
If ai is doing your work, it's not yours.
@@Illumirage It this is your idea of making music, better stop listening to ANY music. Because it's cheating. Getting ideas from the work of others. No?
@@imcrazedandconfused Nope. Ten years ago you couldn't snap your fingers and a song would appear. That's an apples to oranges comparison. Sorry.
You are wrong.
@@Illumirage AI will never be like "Snap your fingers and it will be a song." And if it sounds like you wrote a song, you should better not write songs. It is still a machine.
It is like google. "Oh, now all journalists and data miners will be out of job!" Not happening. Because the machine still can not think. It can not feel. It has no idea what it is doing
And if a machine can do your job, you should better look out for a new job. Has always been like this.
There is a difference between a tool and someone doing the whole job.
Funny timing. I just started using Suno yesterday and have been obsessed
The piece at 2:47 sounded like a wee bit heavier 2012 Woe Is Me tbh
I watch the Dropouts podcast and one of the hosts (Zach Justice) made funny songs using AI about each of the people on the podcast. The one he made about Tara Yummy (another host) was actually so good and all the viewers loved it. They made it in to a music video and it got a shit ton of views bc it's a banger lol!! It's kinda scary (and a little cool) that AI can do that!
The song is called "where'd you wake up this morning" on the Dropouts podcast page. Please, someone listen to it and tell me if I'm crazy. I think it's a good pop punk sounding song. It's wild that it's AI!!
It's called "where'd you wake up this morning" on the Dropouts podcast channel. Someone listen to it and tell me if I'm crazy or not but it sounds like a good pop punk song lol I can't believe it's fucking AI! it's wild!
Timcast made one called "I glued my balls to my butthole again" Tear laugh inducing.
Artificial Isolation. All AI music
I've actually been listening to a lot of Obscurest Vinyl. It's A.I. creating joke 50s and 60s songs, with titles like "I Glued My Balls to My Butthole again," "You Look Like You Could Use This Fuckin Lamp" and "This Baptism Fucking Blows (Just Dunk the Kid Already)."
The best part is my parents have their own personal mix of 50s and 60s songs on Spotify and I mixed the Obscurest Vinyl songs in. I'm excitedly waiting for that inevitable phone call.
Bahahah that's brilliant
Nik can you react to Sleep Theory?
AI metal will never be as good as the heaviest bands out there. Long live the Metal Gods!! METAL NEVER DIES!!
If you think this is crazy, spend some time in Udio AI. Works the same way that Suno does but is WAY higher quality in sounds, vocals, and production
Can confirm, just by buying 100 prompts I managed to generate a 4-and-a-half-minute electronicore banger.
You can just click Custom mode and ask it to generate lyrics based on a prompt, so that you can preview them and not waste an attempt with random lyrics. Once you get good lyrics, you can modify them or proceed with your generation attempt.
Actually, the app Udio is way better than Suno...you should really give that a try, the vocals are much better and the sound as a whole sounds less "noisy"? Sounds more polished really
That sad metal song was very good. Would like to have a full version of that
I don't know what's scarier: The fact that AI can make songs that are this good, or that all modern music so similar that AI can be trained on it.
If it phases out generic musicians I'm fine with it tbh.
@@cloudbloodmusic considering it just makes generic songs, yeah
Once you listen to a lot of metal you really hear the same things over and over. AI copies what we do and does it well so its easy to make something recognizable.
The latter definitely.
@@mangopie7602It seems the ai has 3 different outputs: metalcore, butt rock, and pop
I've recently been experimenting around with AI generated metal. I enjoy writing. Putting my lyrics to music is just euphoric. Uploaded 3 fairly different tracks so far.
Bean metal
The most mind blowing thing to me is that it is able to repeat a chorus, but make it acoustic or piano the second time, keeping the same vocal melody
Why. I'm sad now. AI should stick to generating text instead of taking over almost every industry that makes human life somewhat enjoyable.
Are you also sad that Google is a more efficient way of searching for things than looking it up in a thesaurus or the yellow pages or recipes from a cook book etc etc etc?
Synthesisers have been able to generate music with little input from humans for decades at this point, AI is just a more efficient version of that. Nothing to be sad about.
@@omega1231crazy take, the thesaurus doesn't write the book for you and the cook book doesn't cook the food for you.
Greed and curiosity. Having stolen centuries long blood, sweat and tears hard work of countless thousands of musicians, painters, writers, designers, etc., AI companies will make billions through subscription fees, rendering all artists dead or living irrelevant, and by depriving humans of the creative process, they will turn human into morons.
@@gavenc673 This video demonstrates that through robbing humans of the creative process, AI will turn us into cucumbers.
Here's the thing, digital artists have been screeching since the onset and the corporate world just wants to produce a cheap product they can capitalize on. Why pay anyone when the work is done by machine?
My name is John Connor and you are the resistance.
I made a thall song and it nailed the ambience, even a full minute ending with weird ambient noises. "space jam"
Charlie introduced me to this a few weeks ago so I'm glad it's gained traction. I've created some pretty listenable songs
"you" have "created" some pretty listenable songs?
@DM-pv4rw Damn right I have. Took a lot of genius to type the correct combination of words to direct the AI along the right path to invent consistent number one hits. We're actually touring next month so if you're still in the town of Gullible you should check us out
@@Syans_Projecked You can't make a post and then act like it was bait after you get criticism.
Who is acting like a comment was bait lol? I was going along with my originally incorrectly chosen words and just tried to make a joke out of it. I made a mistake. I accept that. Seems like your life is even more boring than mine 😉
@@Syans_Projecked all good until you called me gullible. thats not making a joke out of your mistake, that is acting like it wasnt a mistake, and calling someone gullible for not seeing how it "actually a joke the whole time".
been using Suno for 2 months and making absolute bangers in pop music that would make Swift weep. its been fun. not tried metal yet, done a few punk tunes.
Link?
I’d like to see AI perform live. Oh right can’t. Never will.
Resorting to AI and becoming lazier and lazier those live artists will eventually be playing AI generated garbage.
Ok but why is it actually good, Im upset that last track isnt a real song cause I would 100% add that to my playlist
right??? it's literally something id listen and put in my spotify playlist
3.5 is even better. I've heard the nastiest breakdowns and insane solos from it.
Damn. AI is going to replace song writers too
Donna app is amazing. I’ve been messing with it making custom-made Power Ranger songs, parody songs remix of songs and I would have one ownership of a song is on RUclips right now.
7:45 Ai literally made a modern Bring Me The Horizon single...
@NikNocturnal you can extend the parts as many times as you want then Get whole song and put it out there it’s kind of insane what you can do you only scratch the surface
Thanks, I hate it.
Petition for Nik to make Crimson Embrace an actual song
Biometrics from phones and wearables. Recognizing what parts of the music you react to is in the code for the algorithms.
My dad in his 70s just bought a robot lawnmower. Try again.
A few years ago I got an idea, wrote and recorded 5 songs, all tracking, meticulously programmed drums, etc. Not saying it was pro, I know my limits - but I was happy with it.
Had some riffs and ideas for another 5 to finish the story, but needed a break. Came up for air, realized this exact thing was not far away, and my inspiration just evaporated. I couldn't justify the hours of toil, even just for my own satisfaction.
I'm not mad, but it made me really recognize that these are crazy times to live in. We will have to redefine what it even means to create, contribute to society, and grow and develop as humans. 🤯
The end times….
This is how you die
I use Suno to make parody songs for fun and it's crazy how good some of them turn out, especially after the 3.5 update. Shit is wild
You'll never be able to trust whether a band's music is their own anymore from now on.
I mean is this really any different than huge artists like Rihanna, Justin Bieber, Britney Spears, Lady Gaga, etc. who have an entire team of people around them doing everything?
@@hussle2654 that's like 4 people, and I don't agree with that either. Rap artists should write their own beats, etc.
Why did I love Crimson Embrace so much 🤦♂️
We really shouldn't let AI ruin everything we create, we can't be replaced by something that has no soul.
Udio is even better, I love it.
AI is a tool to be used. Use it to make your own samples and stuff.
^ this, this right here.
Been using this for quite a while to help with writers block.. this site is dope af