The Boeing Starliner Has Failed...
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- NASA reveals the fate of Boeing's long suffering space capsule
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Good thing NASA is in charge here. If it were up to Boeing they would have let those people return without a care of their safety.
Without a doubt, that company is corrupted.
@@housefish Our entire political system is corrupt from the ground up. If only the corruption was limited to Boeing, NASA and the FAA...but it isn't.
Good thing NASA have the Dragon also, easy decision without any politics bs
Yep! People might die... but that's a risk Boeing is willing to accept.
boeing is trying to pay indian software developers for a program that will trick astronauts into thinking that all the thrusters are working.
Boeing is needing to change its name to Bloeing.
🤣
Boing cuz they're not ballin
or Bowing ( to SpaceX )
Boing
more like "Blowing".
Still amazing that after being years late to bring the finished product they are just now really testing the thrusters and finding the problems that should have been revealed years ago
They had no intention of actually flying this pile of crap so long as they could milk taxpayers for years.
"They believe in their vehicle and they'd be willing to bring crew home on it." Yeah, they were also willing to keep putting people on 737 Max jets even after two back-to-back crashes with 346 fatalities, until they were FORCED by safety regulators around the world to ground all Max jets.
So very true. If it was up to Boeing, they'd have continued flying the 737MAX indefinitely regardless of crashes.
ReGuLaTiOn Is UnNeCeSsArY!
-Some libertarian jackass
How about we put the C-suite on their Starliner and let them put their own life on the line if they're so "confident" in it.
Only problem there is the two crashes where caused by pilot error. Yes the system should have had another redundancy but in both cases the crews solved the problem. The crash was a direct result of the pilots reengaging the faulty system. The training on a runaway trim (which is what the max AoA failure presented as) absolutely forbids attempting to reset the trim for this exact reason.
Don’t forget BOEING BLAMED THE LIONAIR PILOT!
Boeing's commitment to safety is an oxymoron
I'm pretty sure right now they're trying to prove that they can be safe and they're pretty sure their spacecraft is safe. They're in a rut but I want the company to be disbanded since they not only gobbled up our airliner industry, but they also let the Europeans dominate the international market. Airbus airliners should be relegated to places like France, Russia, the Stans, and China, not 1st world countries.
If a whistle blower came forward about their space program… they’d mysteriously be dis-alived
Its terrible leaving them astronauts up there like that. I'd go crazy
Lower than the life expectancy of a former employee with a big mouth.
Their courage and endurance is amazing ...
Put the former Boeing executive on that spaceship.He destroyed the company😂
Who is that?
CEO failure is like Washington failure. You fail upward then leave with a Huge bank account. Must be nice.
His name is McNary. He ruined the 3M Company as well!
Do your own homework and look it up.
Boeing used to set the standard-until it decided to worry more about executive compensation and lobbying politicians than engineering excellence.
Not to mention their commitment to DEI and woke ideology. It is FAFO of the highest order.
DEI hiring too
Actually, they started worrying about shareholder returns and stock prices, so they cut costs everywhere and did not invest in the future. Same thing happened earlier at McDonnell Douglas.
It has nothing to do with DEI. It started when they stop putting engineers in the top positions and is more concerned with maximizing profits over making a good product.
This is the core rot of the western world. Profits over everything.
Boeing is only competent in hiring hitmen
Boeing needs to have its government money cut.
Boeing needs a management overhaul. The amount of experience and knowledge is bleeding out of Boeing and that needs to stop. Back to the 1970s policies.
I want a refund!
They are one of only 3 viable options and that's already a scarily low number...
That will not happen, and I can summarize why in two words: military contracts.
no, they need their whole business to be confiscated.
Boeing once the pride of American engineering is now and international embarrassment
Amongst so many other embarrassing facts about the fallen mighty nation
Perfect example of neo liberalism to its logical conclusion
We were actually more impressed with Lockheed fighter jets, Rockwell Space Shuttles and Grumman moon landers in Europe. Our Airbus was a better product from hello. A Lockheed moonship is already propelled by an Airbus service module. Worry not, we’re going to be picking up the pieces with new aerospace projects in Europe, as we should with our deep pockets.
It's what happens when beancounters and politicians take over from the engineers. SpaceX is reliable since it's still run by an engineer.
@@The-Cat I’d say USA hasn’t fallen but it’s on the way down to catastrophe the way every thing is going
Boeing shouldn't be allowed to receive government contracts anymore.
oh and lets ignore buzz went and took a shit on the moon 50 years ago but the tech stopped and now we can't take humans to go take poos on the moon any longer. yeah. lets give nasa more money!!!!!!!! NPC you are and so are all your buddies commenting on this nasa slave slop
I sense a whistleblower
RIP
they killed him.
Requiem in Pace.
"Good news, you two! I have managed to get your space pay extended through January of next year!" (nervous laughter...)
Someday Boeing will be a textbook case for how to destroy an incredibly successful company.
HP (Hewitt Packard) is also such a case. They just put an MBA (Carly Fiorina) in charge of an engineering company that used to be run by engineers. She then laid off critical personnel, and outsourced their jobs to India, so that investors (and upper management) got a big increase in their stock portfolios from the short term money savings (at the expense of long term viability). It nearly bankrupted the company 4 or 5 years later.
Same thing happened to Apple in the1990s when they hired the old Pepsico CEO, who then canned Steve Jobs, and proceeded to drive the company into the ground.
In every case, the executives who did that got away with their stock options (golden parachutes), and laughed all the way to their banks.
It's a simple regulatory fix. Require all executive stock compensation to be put into [something like] a 401k retirement account. They can't withdraw it before retiring (or maybe 10 years) without losing half/most of it. That way it gives them an incentive to focus on long term company growth, instead of quick & easy short term growth at the expense of long term viability.
Glad NASA made the responsible decision.
Political decision more likely, but probably better for them given the present, breathless 24hr news cycle and all the social media "experts".
Bill Nelson found his balls, but only after immense pressure from the public.
I wonder how much of this is a Nasa decision and how much is the astronauts' "No fucking way" decision.
This smells like corruption
and that smells like spupidity
Remember when the government hired a high paid lawyer to investigate Boeing,when they billions over budget, and years behind schedule on star liner,,after months of investigation what happened?she recommended that Boeing did nothing wrong,,THEN SHE QUIT HER JOB with the government,and went to work for BOEING.,,now if that isn’t the most corrupt thing you ever heard of,,
@@alexanderSydneyOz spupidity is definitely a thing.
@@ImdaVP i knew that spudipity is when you stumble over a huge but tasty potato 🐢
Sounds more like diversityequity and inclusion hiring. They may not be the best at the job, but they ARE a particular skin color, or more importantly engage in same sex relations or identity as a different sex.
“Who do I have to kill in order to make this little blunder go away” -Boeing (probably)
"...will insure that no one can speak ill of Boeing." -Boeing (for real)
Alas, their blunder is in orbit for all the world to see. They'd have to kill the entire Internet.
They're lucky they made it.....
Very lucky,the lady is not well,...hope she will be OK
It seems like everyone his trying to pretend like this is under control. That ship could do anything but I guess that’s a risk they are willing to take.
And the faulty thrusters will burn up on return. Boeing has gone from a major player to a lost cause.
The jets are actually fine. They recovered when the service module doghouses cooled. And the SM is supposed to burn up on entry.
Just like America.
The crew's inability to bring the ship home is the proof of Boeing's "commitment to safety." They truly blow the doors off the competition...
About 50 years ago we could build a vehicle to land on the moon. Now we can't built a vehicle that goes to low orbit. There is a problem here.
Cost saving
The problem is that Stanley Kubrick died.
@@UmmerFarooq-wx4yodid you say cost cutting 😂
SpaceX to the rescue - in multiple ways, it seems....
@@UmmerFarooq-wx4yo 1.6 B overrun is not a cost saving. That's just pouring cash down a bottomless pit.
they KNEW the Boeing starliner had problems but they send it up anyways. bet you they would of never send dragon if it had the same problems!!!
Its a test flight dude. And they thought they had the problems fixed on the last flight, but since the service module burns up at the end, they had no hardware to be 100% certain of the cause of the problems. The only problem they knew of before liftoff was the helium leaks. They are still there, but not severe enough to cause a problem with reentry. The reason the manned return was scrubbed is the thruster problem, which they did NOT know of before the launch.
And as before, they are on the Service Module, NOT the re-entry module. So this is really an abundance of caution decision.
This is not 1966. NASA is not the uber confident agency it was then. SpaceX is like NASA was in 1966. Let's hope they don't have their own "Apollo fire" moment.
@@i-love-space390 I agree largely, but I am a little bit worried given that there have been thruster problems on both OFT and OFT-2 which seem like they should have gotten more attention. Of course hindsight makes that easier and there may be very valid reasons they thought they had resolved those problems; I just hope that it wasn't deferred work that they thought wasn't a priority.
I think your prediction earlier (successful return, a few thruster failures) is definitely the most likely, though I think the decision is only politics in that NASA is much more conservative than they were once. I do think SpaceX's development process has had its advantages, but they are definitely not immune from mistakes (the CRS-7 strut material selection comes to mind). Totally agree on Dream Chaser: I'm excited for it but I completely understand why NASA didn't select it for crew and I think SpaceX fans tend to heavily underrate the development struggles and delays SNC has faced in making it.
@@i-love-space390my only comment would be at least SpaceX has launched a bunch of vehicles, a bunch in-manned then manned missions. I personally think that their approach is better being make one send it up, whatever didn’t work out let’s fix it. Again in my opinion, which doesn’t mean shit, Boeing simulated where SpaceX truly launched. Relax! I know all companies have simulations of the whole process, but Musk’s team has been successful 11:09 11:09 11:09 11:09
@@i-love-space390they knew they had # leaks before they launched,,,and launched anyways,,,Boeing is dangerous
So, how many BILLIONS in government funding (= tax payers' money) did they get to "achieve" this "result"?
Whatever they want. Trillions missing every year from the budget
Almost seven billion has been spent on this trash machine. Boeing received a contract for just over four billion and then some additional money was spent on research.
So yea. A pile of money. They may as well have set that cash on fire.
Boeing received a fixed-price contract worth US$4.2 billion to develop Starliner for the Commercial Crew Program. In comparison, the total cost of the development of the Apollo command module was $37 billion, adjusted for inflation since 1970 (nominal cost of $3.7B).
@@teebob21. That number includes the command AND service modules. It’s also worth noting that the level of design software and materials science available today wasn’t out there in the 1960s. Also, Apollo could actually get to the moon. Starliner is stuck in low earth orbit.
@@h.db.9684 Modern Western capsule design incorporates the service module functionality into the habitable command module, which makes an Apollo CSM stack directly comparable to CST-100 Starliner or Crew Dragon. Starliner is only in low earth orbit because it wasn't on a big enough booster. That has nothing to do with the capabilities (or lack thereof) of the module. You might as well say the the Apollo capsules used during the Skylab era were "stuck in LEO", too.
So, it hasn't really failed... yet. Hopefully it will return in one piece, but the decision to keep its crew on the ISS for now is the best choice.
The thrusters failed during it's approach to the ISS in June, and thus also failed in it's initial mission to safely return 2 astronauts as it's now deemed unsafe.. did you not watch the freakin video?
@@deangreen1309Compared to that the Space Shuttle failed big time on its maiden flight. There was just no option to send the crew home with another vehicle. The same is true for many other Space Shuttle flights. The fact that it‘s now possible to go up with one vehicle, and down with another is the big step forward and that‘s not possible only with Dragon.
@@deangreen1309 I think that those malfunctions are failed components related, but no more so a failure than Apollo 13 at this point. NASA is showing excellent judgement in avoiding another Columbia having the SpaceX Dragon option. It won't be known if Starliner has truly failed (as in catastrophic) until it returns. From the video title, it seemed like something new might have happened.
@@JM_2019the Russians could have brought them back. Boeing has had failure on top of failure in their space division as well as their aircraft manufacturing, which should be their bread and butter. If it wasn't for SpaceX and Dragon, the US would still be overpaying Russia for rides up and down. How much money has the US wasted on SLS and Starliner? That money could have made far more progress in spaceflight if it were invested in more deserving companies, like Sierra, Blue Origin or Rocketlab. Or on programs like the lunar lander or gateway. What good has come from Starliner, outside of keeping some regular folks employed?
Many years overdue, many billions more... not failed yet?
Do not under estimate the ability of our government to declare success in a failure and reinforce that failure
Watch Boeing get another big govt contract. It's Guaranteed.
*Boeing has failed
Regarding asteroid mining. The real advantage to mining in space is that your building materials are in space and don't need to be launched. I see a big challenge, however. That would be in developing techniques and processes for refining while in zero g.
Boeing needs to simply exit the spaceflight business and return to its core aerospace/airliner business. Sell of its' stake in ULA, divest itself of Starliner and go forward from there.
Would be smart to do, so it won't happen.
Both aerospace and civilian airliners are in similar predicament. Both aircrafts are in a duopoly with single competitor being Airbus or SpaceX. COMAC is not a competitor yet for airliner at least in the West. Russia rockets is a no go either due to politics.
@@Tabula_Rasa1 SpaceX could take up all the slack in a heartbeat, they have multiple dragon craft ready to go after flight check and preparations which take only days instead of months. Also, plenty F9 stacks available.
Spaceflight has BEEN part of Boeing's core business since the 1960's. Boeing built the highly successful Delta family of launch vehicles, and several GPS satellites. Boeing built the Lunar Orbiters, and Mariner 10. They were also the prime contractor on the ISS.
But unfortunately most of the good engineers have retired given up or actually moved to other companies. There are a lot of great engineers still but most of them are beholden to the managers set above them@@teebob21
As a Boeing product, I’m surprised the doors stayed on it during the trip up.
Boeing is becoming a failed company
becoming?????.....IS a failed Company
Time to bail them out endlessly then?
@@dt4676 please no
Don’t tell democrats. They love to bail out companies “too big to fail” like General Motors…that eventually was sold to Stalantis a European based company.
It’s sad that a (once) great company is crashing and burning so spectacularly.. but they did it to themselves by taking an engineer out of CEO and replaced them by a clueless businessman. I hope increasing their margins by 5% was worth it lol
Boeing is becoming a failed company.
Becoming? It already is a failed company.
This is what happens when you have a near-monopoly in your industry (as Boeing does w/Airbus w/regards to aviation); this likely wouldn't've happened had McDonnell Douglas, Lockhead and other companies not been gobbled up by Boeing over the years.
doesnt matter, america will keep awarding it lucrative contracts to keep the company afloat to outbalance airbus... thats how the free market works
privatize gainings, socialize losses = capitalism.
going a little crazy here but what's the least drastic action needed to change things like this?
That's how the destructive protectionism works
@@speedstrikermake government contracts dependent on the real success of the company
@@Вгостяхуютубера-л3ц but the current gov will never care about that. and their 3 degrees of social separation and next 5 levels social strata won't either. so like i'm looking at an external splash of cold water or a revolution man. hypothetically ofc.
Gonna suck for Boeing if it fails on its unmanned reentry!
They'd be done. They will have to settle for 30,000 feet for the next 15 years at least.
I'm expecting it.
Geez…can you imagine…You go up to the ISS for a week-long mission (or whatever it was) and end stranded for 8 months…smh
Stranded is not exactly the word here.
I know Sunni is happy as a cricket. She was ISS commander a few years ago and has been aching to get back up. This is probably something she has no problem with. I'm sure Butch is not too unhappy either.
@@i-love-space390 Happiness has nothing to do with it. If you want to say, there is option such as SpaceX to ferry them back, then yes...They are not stranded.
Sorry, NASA and Boeing used to be the gold standard for flight. No more. Now they can’t accomplish a task perfected in the mid 60s.
Nonsense.
Add MCAS to it and it will be fine.
😅😆😁😄😊
Boeing CEO: “Ok, people are starting to suspect that we are assassinating all the whistleblowers. Any one have any sneaky ideas to get rid of these whistleblowers?”
Lackey: “let’s blast them into space on one of our crappy rockets.”
Boeing CEO: “I love it!”
Are you 12?
I find this comment hilarious, and I am a 32 yo MD lol @@CSMSteel7
This pedo looking for 12 year olds on RUclips. Get lost pervert!
Hey, Boeing, a suggestion... Hire some competent management personnel who shall hire competent aerospace engineers to design, engineer, and answer questions about, the 'Starliner'.
i agree. should have all of the brightest minds in one space agency.
The UK has already put a rocket into orbit, but that was over 50 years ago from a launch site in Australia.
What amazes me is that every test flight had some sort of issue. Including the pad abort test. And I don't think they did an in-flight abort test, but correct me if I'm wrong. Yet it seems Boeing, can't just get it under control.
Boeing aside, I keep my fingers crossed for RFA! I hope they bounce back quickly and they reach orbit!
It has reached the point I wouldn't trust a tricycle made by Boeing.
Or a trampoline 😅
NASA and BOEING engineers are trying their best to find a solution. With the help of 8 HR personnel and 20 DEI hires per engineer to ensure everything is in alignment with corporate vision.
“DEI” has nothing to do with anything. That’s just a racist dog whistle. Let’s get real: for much of our history, white people were the “DEI hires” who were protected from having to compete with more qualified minorities and were often given positions that other people just as often were more qualified for. Racism ensured that white people got positions regardless of qualifications.
I think a lot of us saw this coming for a long time. Boeing has no business building anything that can levitate more than a couple of feet!
asshole!
For $4.2B It only took NASA and Boeing a decade 8 months to admit Starliner aint worth the contract.
Imagine failing THAT bad. I’ll be avoiding their planes for a while too.
Yup, we are practically on Mars already. It's amazing how advanced we are after sixty years of space flight 😒
Yup! Remember, Mars is a one way trip for the astronauts even if they land OK there alive!
Committed to security? By putting crew on a vehicle while still maintaining unresolved issues from the previous flight!?! Not even software issues were solved. Defective code simply deleted; leaving this tincan without security protocols. Boeing. Hey, but the door still holds.
There have been no CFT software issues. Nothing deleted.
@@jasonowens7829Boeing should activate autonomous return then,,,oh wait,,,they deleted that option,,be honest with yourself
The seal worked in an atmosphere and gravity... but not in space... go figure
Thank god Elon had a Space Taxi ready
Maybe he should paint them in a yellow and black checkered pattern
In your defense. You ran into a competitor unlike the world has ever seen.
I have not flied boeing in decades, I fly myself in my twin cessna. It works
Saying “NASA has unwavering support for Boeing and the Starliner” is incredible. It’s a political slap in the face to Elon Musk and SpaceX. Politics over safety.
Unfortunately, it's not a good look for a government agency to drag a public corporation it does business with. Especially when that corporation is the largest commercial aircraft manufacturer and fourth largest defense contractor in the US. Even if that criticism is deserved.
@@southernmagzmen time and time again, they deliver an inferior product to the military for a lot more money then the competitors, they win by corruption and now they are losing via the same way. Its really unfortunate that the real people who make this happen will never go to jail... So many major faces outside the company would be in jail too...
thats PR. They were probably told not to give Boeing stakeholders a reason to bail and tank the bonus checks.
easy to do such a thing when you're an organizsation that is part of a government that is regularly bribed by said company
@@southernmagz But it's perfectly okay for the then NASA director to publicly ask Elon when their new Dragon capsule would be flight ready when he introduced starship a few years back.
While criticizing Boeing for production and quality control issues, we should remember NASA management, itself, created major problems more than two decades ago which killed two shuttle crews.
Challenger exploded after a forced launch in near-freezing weather, despite engineers' warnings about the integrity of frozen and inflexible booster O-ring seals.
Columbia burned up on its return home because the NASA mission manager refused to consider that its carbon-on-carbon wing structures had been damaged by ice falling away from the booster on launch-- despite warnings from engineers.
Both times, NASA screwed up royally, which make Boeing's painful attempts to work through this problem seem safe and sane, by comparison.
At least, NASA now shows the due caution and care it learned at such great cost in past missions. NASA indulges Space-X with the same concern.
The American people deserve deliberate and careful engineering, not unnecessarily risky media spectaculars.
Stay-Liner has become Fail-Liner as it was always meant to be called.
Gee... I have never heard that one... you are so witty. /s
Names. Are you 12?
This is why you don't put people on "test flights". Boeing should have sent more than 2 tests up there that were unmanned especially since they had problems during the test flights. All for the money. If your aircraft here on earth suck, maybe you should fix that first instead of wasting more taxpayer money.
Boeing -- a 4.6 Billion dollar mistake by NASA. Bye, bye Stuckliner!
Now all Boeing's reputation is threading on that thing being repaired to the best of their abilities and landing uncrewed, but safely.
I bet sportsbooks are having a blast on this
Boeing needs to have their NASA contracts cut in perpetuity.
They’ll do this again with the power of money and NASA support. That’s that business model.
Riding down in the cargo hold. Lol, that's like throwing a cat in a dryer and expecting it to be just fine.
"Boeing is 100% sure humans will fly on Starliner again in the future."... He didn't say they would survive...
The second I saw starliner I new it was a failure, it was a rebranding of a 1967 capsule no more no less
When I first saw it I thought the same thing, now in 2024 the Star liner looks like an old, new version of the Apollo space craft. Space X is the future, Boeing is past, and this egregious mistake or fiscal disaster can be attributed to this is how we did it before.
Imagine! People are supposed to be able to go to Mars on That thing!
@josephkane825 nasa is just a joke now. Being sucked dry by Bill Nelson and all that fat goverment money
The real problem with Boeing is that this happened the flight before in 2022. Both of the thrusters and software failed and Boeing couldn't fix it, leading to the latest failure. But the BOEING CEO GOT A 48% PAY INCREASE THE PAST YEAR!!!
Everyone is always 100% sure until they’re not.
Coming down as a flaming ball is my guess.
I quite certain you are right. I just hope that the flaming ball doesn't ignite the entire ISS as it leaves the dock.
As all capsule do
Naah. See my comment above. The thrusters in question are a fraction of the total and they are on the Service Module which is ditched before re-entry. There is no question at this time on the re-entry crew module thrusters as far as I have heard. This was a political decision by NASA because people like you would bitch if there was any hiccups during the return, and they also knew that the breathless 24 hr news cycle and social media would blow any hiccup into a life or death drama.
My expectation is a safe if imperfect unmanned return flight.
German made rockets are meant to land in the UK, not take off from the UK.
But the USA flew astronauts to the moon, landed and flew them back in the 1960s. Yet in 2024-25 nobody on earth can even get close to accomplishing that goal. How dumb are humans really?
Today the US leadership cares about money. To get it, they need to implement DEI. There are fewer and fewer hardcore engineers at Boeing.
Also, who put the retroreflectors on the moon? 🤔 Aliens? God? 😂
@@juliusfucik4011 Unmanned robots may have placed those on the moon?
I think it‘s easy to play the „good NASA, bad Boeing“ game. But in the end it was also NASA who gave their ok to send the astronauts up, knowing there was a Helium leak.
At least their DEI programs are intact. Gotta have those priorities!
Maybe outer planet mining should be done. One could get a mass of minerals on Uranus.
That's so boeing
It's been rumored that Boeing simply ran out of duct tape during construction and QC was like, "just send it"
You'd think by now that they'd know to bring a roll of Duct Tape and a can of WD-40 😜
I was so wrong back when Starliner and Dragon were still in development, but I didn’t realize how far Boeing had decayed.
I travel a hell of a globally for work. I will never set foot in a Boeing aircraft. Never will... Boeing untrustworthy as their products.
ummm...sure
A stupid idea. There are hundreds of successful Boeing Airplanes flying around safely every hour of every day!
You don't have an ending scene where I could set my like, I needed to navigate back.
My prediction is that Starliner comes home just fine with just a few thruster farts. Let's face it. The ones that shut down were a small fraction of the total thrusters on Starliner. And they were in the SERVICE MODULE, NOT the re-entry module. This is a decision based on politics and NASAs fear of a PR problem.
The Gemini and Apollo spacecraft had thruster problems all the time. They just didn't have a computer automatically shutting them down as soon as it detected any fart or lack of thrust, so crews simply dealt with it, and NASA didn't make a big fucking deal about it. Hell, Gemini 8 had a thruster stick open and it almost killed Neil Armstrong and Dave Scott. The Gemini capsule was up and flying again in a few months and had a successful flight.
All you little Gen Z babies are "all in" when SpaceX takes risks (and frankly has been extremely lucky). You gloss over exploding capsules and failed parachutes during testing because Elon and Co are the darlings of 'new space", and the current herd mentality is Boeing can do no right and SpaceX can do no wrong.
The whole reason we are pursuing 2 spacecraft for NASA is that things do go wrong and the public has none of the patience they had in 1966. They have to have a complete investigation, Congressional hearings, and a lot of breathless handwringing and news conferences whenever there is a problem. (Except of course if SpaceX digs a hole in the ground and pelts everyone with concrete rain.... that is just a minor oversight. How come we aren't flying again right away?! Damned environmentalists!)
I just had to write this to even the ledger for all those little herd creatures and their pilling on comments.
Oh... and all you guys that say Dream Chaser is the answer, I will say it again. Dream Chaser is a CARGO SPACECRAFT that hasn't even flown yet. I have every reason to think it will be successful, since Sierra Space has an excellent reputation as a careful designer, tester, and manufacturer, but it is a cargo spacecraft nonetheless, and it is held to a lower standard than manned spacecraft. If the SpaceX experience transitioning from Cargo Dragon to Dragon 2 manned is any example, Sierra Space may indeed have a manned Dream Chaser certified and flying..... in 4-7 YEARS. By that time, Starliner will likely be flying reliably for several years.
Wait...the crew's names are Butch and Suni? Like Butch and Sundance? Did they purposely pair these 2 together, because their names worked together like that? They did, didnt they?
Trump 2024 USA 🇺🇸
N0 to Trump 2024 USA.
@@OliverGrumitt please yourself
Imagine being one of those people on the space station, watching their only way home drift back to earth without them on it.
Another DEI tragedy.
Now everybody understands how hard it was for SpaceX
Boeing, DEI, at it's best.
This is a great way to avoid a billion dollar lawsuit!
Id like to see Sierra Space develop their crewed Dream Chaser to replace Starliner. An elegant looking craft. Good report. Thank you.
Boeing has more than enough talented technicians and engineers. Boeings problem is rooted in a management culture that prevents those designers concerns and objections from being taken seriously and acted on.
Get those two back now. They will not survive. That ship will blow up. It's already making strange sounds.
If the British were not so stubborn the Germans would have had a rocket launch facility up and running on the isle in 1945.
one space exploration organisation with all of the best minds working in it.
One learn a lot from those misstakes so they are honestly almost as valuable as the sucess seen to the information that hopefully can be extracted from this.
There's a 60% chance the door will fall off during reentry.
Well you know what they say, " If its Boeing, I ain't going."
Just an interesting question ; there is not compatability in Spacesuits between Boeing and Spacex ( so presumably that incompatibility also applies to Russian Soyuz Astronauts ). But the question is about the ISS ports/airlocks etc for various space capsule mating with ISS ???
The same docking interface (NDS) is used for both Starliner and Dragon, so both are compatible with the same ports. Russia uses its own standard.
You know it’s kind of sad actually. I remember back when Boeing was pretty much considered the pinnacle of aviation, safety and technology.
Unfortunately, though it seems that has changed. Although if I ever correctly when one of the major manufacturers that were bought out by Boeing, I think it was Douglas were merged in. They took the Board of Directors from McDonald Douglas so it was a completely different management team.
Also, it seems like Boeing hasn’t tested their capsule enough.
One has to wonder how much actual risk Starliner presents and whether political considerations informed the decision to shy away from risk in this election year
its BOEING. It is ACTUAL RISK.
It's technically not the CST100 Starliner itself that is having problems, but the service module. In a sense it's a minor point, but I wish people would actually remember that.
Starliner typically refers to both the crew module and service module, but yes, the crew module seems to be doing fine
No hype and solid reporting. Really appreciate this channel.
I can’t wait to see if the capsule will actually make it back in September.
Who knows what was actually being said behind closed doors but I always thought from day one 1 that it was ridiculous that it was even being discussed to bring them back on the star liner.
Within decades the air plane went from a flimsy kite to a giant high speed machine and in 50 years became supersonic. Rockets however haven't changed one little bit. They may be more complex but they still perform the same tasks as the early ones. And we haven't ventured out of Earth's orbit since the seventies.
Boeing as a company. Now truly represents what America has become.