Corporate taxes don’t much affect a product’s price, since they are mitigated through capital expenditures. Labor rate have a much larger impact. Even if it costs an extra 30% to build a bike in the USA, it is still worth it.
Thanks for the question! The Exie is way fun. For so many places it would be a fantastic bike. I do live alongside a massive trail network that's predominantly flow/jump/double black DH runs, and that's far more Ripmo territory. I'd love to have one, but Ibis should probably focus on getting them to folks who ride more "normal" stuff more often first!
@@JeffKendallWeed I've been hunting for a good electrolyte source other than Gatorade and pickles and both my brother and an Ultra friend of mine mentioned it! I haven't found a shop in Boise that carries it so I am excited to try it. Having powder packs on 4+ hour rides would be so nice.
You can run angle set on IS headset. I have a slackr by 9.8 on my Trek Fuel Ex. Slacked it out 64 degrees with 135ish MM and 150 MM up front. Instant down country.
Hey Jeff. I'd love to see you on the Chromag hardtail again. Those were some fun videos. (Also, great video with great detail on the bike and background)
Of course return bike in better shape then received, as to receive other joys in the mail in future. Show them respect as they show you. My 2 cents. Great videos awesome riding skills brother, absolutely beautiful country as well thanks for the tag a long.
Yoooo simple green for the cleeeean! (I thought I was the only one haha) Killer breakdown on components, really appreciate how easy this was to follow & understand your experience riding the new new from Ibis.
Hey Jeff, another great video! I see you are now rocking the 2.6 tire sizes. I've seen your video on them, but still waiting on that follow up video you promised us haha. I'm currently rocking the Judge out back and a 2.5 Vigilante up front. Curious to know your thoughts on whether or not it is worthy of the "upgrade". Cheers!
Mike, for a bike like this, you'd only really "need" ~80mm of drop. A bike like this isn't built for jumps or crazy steep terrain. I think they did fine, TBH. I'll bet ~30% of these get built with traditional, non-dropper posts, too.
@@JeffKendallWeed We make the Exie in our US factory. One of the benefits is that it allows us to quickly iterate. The bike Jeff is riding in this video is an early prototype. We're big proponents of long dropper posts and we've actually altered our layup and manufacturing process so that we can insert the dropper further into the frame. Most medium sizes riders can run a 175 or longer dropper.
Hey Jack, I'm not sure exactly what Jenny Rissveds is riding, iirc Ibis was sponsoring her. I imagine it is similar, but with Ibis making these in house, it's also possible they could tweak the lay up to be either lighter, stiffer, or heck, stronger. I did certainly enjoy my time with the Exie- I was not expecting it to be such a great all-arounder in the backcountry!
Great riding footage (again!). Short stems might be trending , but I’m rocking a 50mm ranger on my HD5 (shifts more of my weight to the front tire during climbs). Ibis seems to get the geo right on most of their bikes- far easier to change stem length than seat tube angle 😜 sexy bike, btw. Fits your riding style perfectly.
As if you didn't have enough product identification in your summary- what are you spraying on your bike to clean it? Are you using the same spray for everything? Frame, transmission, tires?
Hahaha the Ripley is pretty different than the Exie. The Ripley is probably the most versatile bike, but it's noticeably heavier and more cush than the Exie.
Ever since winter ~2019 I bulked up a bit. Too much time drinking collagen shakes and lifting when I couldn't ride! Sure helps a TON with filmng and crashing/injury prevention tho!
Hey Jeff! Love all your content. I do however have A very small interest in this video just because of the type of bike reviewed. On the bright side I didn’t thumbs down, and my comment plays the algorithm. Keep it up dude!
lol thanks for bumping the algorithm, Collin!!! Yeah XC bikes are not my forte, but I found myself really enjoying the rides I did have on this bike. I just live alongside a MTB specific bike park, with lots of big jumps. Enduro bike territory!
I think it would be great for mountain biking content creators to leave their "calling card" on loaner bikes. Imagine how Ibis can use that for marketing! Most of us mountain bikers follow multiple channels and would love to see that.
Is this a good bike for a casual rider? I dont do big jumps or go fast downhill, just want something efficient and climbs good but still calms the chatter.
In my experience owning this bike, it’s definitely a modern XC race bike. This means it’s a fairly decent full-sus, but it’s still got its DNA. Like Jeff said, blue and green trails are a blast. As an XC racer and marathoner I love it. Honestly, there are likely better “casual” bikes for the price depending on what you mean by it.
@@NewbGamingNetworks I ended up getting the Transition Spur because it had 10mm more suspension in the back and better ride height for me vs. the Evo. After having it for a 2 months I find it hind of harsh and wish I got a Stumpjumper with the extra suspension.
I wonder what the long term strategy is for USA mfg carbon frames. I guess if they can get $5k for just the frame, then it might be advantageous to bring more production locally. Wonder if other boutique brands will follow suit…
@@JeffKendallWeed I’m guessing for different reasons. Cost to transport/docks and just every other inflationary reason is now impacting the price. I’m looking to build from frame up, and can’t find a frame for much less than $4k…so, yeah $5k for a USA made Exie, might actually be (sadly) a ‘deal’.
What is your opinion on The Fezzari La Sal Peak.? Being the expert i would love youre honest opinion, have you ridden one and i would love for you to rip that bike to see its potential if it wasnt a big drag for you..Thank you for taking your time and keep on doing this awesome videos...😎✌
Jorge, I haven't been super keen to ride any consumer direct brands. Jenson USA has been a huge part of how I can make these videos happen, so I'm hesitant to cut out retailers entirely. Danica likes her Fezzari. I don't love the name and look, but the bike seems to work great for her.
Hey Jeff! I’m here in Norcal (Santa Rosa). I’m looking for a pair of nice mtb shorts, just wondering what is the brand of that gray shorts you are wearing? Thanks!
Hey Jean, I mostly wore the "jeans" looking shorts, which are "jorts" made by Ripton. Super comfy and have a great cut- they look like denim, but are actually a stretch performance fabric. I realy like them, but they don't dry as quick as the Kitsbow shorts. I was on some old Kitsbow Origin shorts in other shots. Kitsbow used to sponsor me and I still have some of their stuff.
@@JeffKendallWeed it's okay. I usually put dish soap in a bucket, but my brother was looking for a recommendation and I had just seen an ad for simple Green bike wash and I thought what you were using looked like it. 😊
Sorry Jeff, I have to say this. I was a service manager at multiple shops in the late 90s through 2010. I had to warranty every single Kestrel frame that came across my work bench. Maybe bad luck, but I personally could not put my money into a Kestrel.
Fair feedback Scott! I can't comment on how the Kestrals were engineered, but I'm confident the guys at Ibis will do a good job. The USA made Ripley LS that we got my wife had zero issues.
Hey Lee, it's hard to say- there are parts shortages from literally every manufacturer. If you want to get the best answer, try emailing askchuck@ibiscycles.com, or call them at 831-461-1435.
@@JeffKendallWeed Thanks bud! I have heard spring '22, but also heard some manufacturers are having 700 day lead times for parts, which takes us to summer '23. I'll shoot him an email and see what's up. Crazy times!
Ripley is noticeably heavier. The Ripley is probably the most versatile bike in the Ibis line up. The Exie is a lot more efficient for flatter, rolling terrain. The Ripley pulls ahead once you get to jump trails, flow trails, and steeper stuff.
It's the older PNW stem in the 50mm length. The overall size of the bike felt great for everything but aggressive cornering- that was when I wanted a tad more bike.
Yes, I did a few videos on it and it's an AWESOME bike park/freeride bike. I need to send it back to Rocky, but I've been too slammed cranking out Exie content!
Point of contention, but otherwise great vid. I think outsourcing, in the traditional sense, meant items were manufactured outside of our shores, not just intrastate. Thanks for the bad ass vids, you're an absolute beast on a bike and makes me wanna keep working to get better!
Just an outside or foreign supplier. Nevada is outside CA, so it seems to fit the dictionary definition of outsource: out·source /ˈoutˌsôrs/ Learn to pronounce verb gerund or present participle: outsourcing obtain (goods or a service) from an outside or foreign supplier, especially in place of an internal source.
@@JeffKendallWeed reference your question to her in “is she cheating on her ibis…. June 1st I believe. Sorry, didn’t mean for that question to seem creepy… 🤦🏼♂️ wasn’t my intention
@@JeffKendallWeed iPad. It just seemed like it was background noise. Maybe OK during riding footage but was a bit of distraction when listening to you talk and narrate
nice. liked the authenticity. Didn't know the Kestrel connection. My buddy still has his carbon Kestrel roadbike.
Thanks man!
not gonna lie, everything you did on the last video with the Ibis Exie is a high new level - from shredding to editing. You're a grandmaster, Jeff!
Corporate taxes don’t much affect a product’s price, since they are mitigated through capital expenditures. Labor rate have a much larger impact. Even if it costs an extra 30% to build a bike in the USA, it is still worth it.
Thanks for the shout out Jeff!
Seems like a fun bike, you shouldn't have to return it!
Thanks for the question! The Exie is way fun. For so many places it would be a fantastic bike. I do live alongside a massive trail network that's predominantly flow/jump/double black DH runs, and that's far more Ripmo territory. I'd love to have one, but Ibis should probably focus on getting them to folks who ride more "normal" stuff more often first!
Man I'm glad I watched through the sponsorship section of the video. Been wanting to try LMNT for a while.
Right on Brandon, where did you first hear about LMTN? I've been enjoying the citrus flavor!
@@JeffKendallWeed I've been hunting for a good electrolyte source other than Gatorade and pickles and both my brother and an Ultra friend of mine mentioned it! I haven't found a shop in Boise that carries it so I am excited to try it. Having powder packs on 4+ hour rides would be so nice.
Great Series. Thank you. And that has got to be the cleanest bike known to man
lol I wish it were cleaner- boxing it up, I saw plenty of crud still on it!
Really cool that you cleaned the bike off of your stickers.
Good call on hiring Kestrel! They made some nice bikes!
Geometry has come a HUGE way !!
It has, though TBH the Exie has pretty traditional geometry- which works great for ridng that it's built for!
You can run angle set on IS headset. I have a slackr by 9.8 on my Trek Fuel Ex. Slacked it out 64 degrees with 135ish MM and 150 MM up front. Instant down country.
wow, I gotta check the 9.8 website out, I didn't know they did that. The older Ibis bike were straight 1 1/8" IS, the Exie is a tapered 1.5 IS.
Dude! those LMNT hydration packs are so dope. Tnx for the hookup. Great content as usual
Thanks for watching, Pedro!!!
@@JeffKendallWeed Are you kidding me man? your channel is epic!
Hey Jeff. I'd love to see you on the Chromag hardtail again. Those were some fun videos. (Also, great video with great detail on the bike and background)
Hang tight, you’ll be stoked to see what I was wrenching on today!
Of course return bike in better shape then received, as to receive other joys in the mail in future. Show them respect as they show you. My 2 cents. Great videos awesome riding skills brother, absolutely beautiful country as well thanks for the tag a long.
That's my program TM, return it in good shape! Thanks for the note!
Yoooo simple green for the cleeeean! (I thought I was the only one haha) Killer breakdown on components, really appreciate how easy this was to follow & understand your experience riding the new new from Ibis.
Thank you Roger!
Hey Jeff, another great video! I see you are now rocking the 2.6 tire sizes. I've seen your video on them, but still waiting on that follow up video you promised us haha. I'm currently rocking the Judge out back and a 2.5 Vigilante up front. Curious to know your thoughts on whether or not it is worthy of the "upgrade". Cheers!
9point8 actually make an angle set for IS41 🤘
Thanks Mike, someone else mentioned that too!
Would be nice if they made the seat post insertion a bit longer, looks like a straight tube so not sure why they limited it so much?
Mike, for a bike like this, you'd only really "need" ~80mm of drop. A bike like this isn't built for jumps or crazy steep terrain. I think they did fine, TBH. I'll bet ~30% of these get built with traditional, non-dropper posts, too.
@@JeffKendallWeed We make the Exie in our US factory. One of the benefits is that it allows us to quickly iterate. The bike Jeff is riding in this video is an early prototype. We're big proponents of long dropper posts and we've actually altered our layup and manufacturing process so that we can insert the dropper further into the frame. Most medium sizes riders can run a 175 or longer dropper.
Very entertaining video, and great talking points!
Glad you enjoyed it, Tim!
If this was your bike would you go large instead of medium?
Hey Jeff. Is this the same bike that Jenny Rissveds are using in UCI XCO 2022, looks very nice that bike
Hey Jack, I'm not sure exactly what Jenny Rissveds is riding, iirc Ibis was sponsoring her. I imagine it is similar, but with Ibis making these in house, it's also possible they could tweak the lay up to be either lighter, stiffer, or heck, stronger. I did certainly enjoy my time with the Exie- I was not expecting it to be such a great all-arounder in the backcountry!
Really nice video. Thank you.
Would love to hear your thoughts on the Exie compared to the Specialized Epic Evo!
Indeed! I almost want to get some more XC bikes, but I dont want to lose focus on the trail/enduro bikes! Too many bikes, not enough time!
This may be the one for my home trails in E MA with the lighter faster tires on a 23 lb bike nice nice, a ripmo is kind of overkill here
Missing Jeff's morning camper face 😅
I wanna go camping again ASAP!
Own a Exie USA. How to remove the original decals?
I thought the slack-r headset was IS compatible. Haven't used one myself but looked into it for one of my past bikes
Great riding footage (again!). Short stems might be trending , but I’m rocking a 50mm ranger on my HD5 (shifts more of my weight to the front tire during climbs). Ibis seems to get the geo right on most of their bikes- far easier to change stem length than seat tube angle 😜 sexy bike, btw. Fits your riding style perfectly.
Thanks Michael- I do play around between the 40/45/50 sizes, but the difference isn't massive.
Good stuff bro
Thank you Mick!
Jeff, us guys on the east coast are ahead in time, so we actually hit the sub button before you got a chance to ask us, lol
I use same washing technique with my car tires. : )
Hahaha it works pretty well! Clean tires are the most important thing if you wanna have a clean looking ride.
Non bike related question, who makes the shorts you’re wearing in this video?
As if you didn't have enough product identification in your summary- what are you spraying on your bike to clean it? Are you using the same spray for everything? Frame, transmission, tires?
The only thing I can do better with a bike than Jeff is cleaning it. Hurt my soul to watch him just scrub that beautiful frame with that janky brush!
Awe Gino, that brush has cleaned probably a hundred bikes without any issues!
Super Awesome! Keep it up.
Thanks Aksel!
One bike is too long, and one bike is too short, and one bike is baby bear... The Ripley.
Hahaha the Ripley is pretty different than the Exie. The Ripley is probably the most versatile bike, but it's noticeably heavier and more cush than the Exie.
@@JeffKendallWeed pretty safe to say though that there won't be a price conscious version of that bike... No Exie AF in other words..
Simple Green to clean the bike huh?
Do you prefer 31.8mm or 35mm handlebars? I just got the brand new PNW Range bars in 35mm and have been absolutely loving them.
Kriss, thanks for the note! I haven't tried 35mm bars yet, so I dunno!
Been lifting Jeff? Looking buff my friend. 💪
Ever since winter ~2019 I bulked up a bit. Too much time drinking collagen shakes and lifting when I couldn't ride! Sure helps a TON with filmng and crashing/injury prevention tho!
made in California omg the humanity!
what drone u using?
Hey Jeff! Love all your content. I do however have A very small interest in this video just because of the type of bike reviewed. On the bright side I didn’t thumbs down, and my comment plays the algorithm. Keep it up dude!
lol thanks for bumping the algorithm, Collin!!! Yeah XC bikes are not my forte, but I found myself really enjoying the rides I did have on this bike. I just live alongside a MTB specific bike park, with lots of big jumps. Enduro bike territory!
Cover in dirt baby! LOL
I think it would be great for mountain biking content creators to leave their "calling card" on loaner bikes. Imagine how Ibis can use that for marketing! Most of us mountain bikers follow multiple channels and would love to see that.
Diamond Back did a video where they sent a frame to a bunch of different RUclipsrs, and everyone signed it before sending it on. Was a cool idea!
@@JeffKendallWeed I watched it! Mtb every day, Seth, Jordan Boostmaster!
It was for that carbon Sync'r. I always wanted one of those frames to do an Enduro hardtail build
Is this a good bike for a casual rider? I dont do big jumps or go fast downhill, just want something efficient and climbs good but still calms the chatter.
In my experience owning this bike, it’s definitely a modern XC race bike. This means it’s a fairly decent full-sus, but it’s still got its DNA. Like Jeff said, blue and green trails are a blast. As an XC racer and marathoner I love it. Honestly, there are likely better “casual” bikes for the price depending on what you mean by it.
@@NewbGamingNetworks I ended up getting the Transition Spur because it had 10mm more suspension in the back and better ride height for me vs. the Evo. After having it for a 2 months I find it hind of harsh and wish I got a Stumpjumper with the extra suspension.
I wonder what the long term strategy is for USA mfg carbon frames. I guess if they can get $5k for just the frame, then it might be advantageous to bring more production locally. Wonder if other boutique brands will follow suit…
I have no idea, but a lot of Asian made carbon frames are around $4k now, so it’s not that much more!
@@JeffKendallWeed I’m guessing for different reasons. Cost to transport/docks and just every other inflationary reason is now impacting the price. I’m looking to build from frame up, and can’t find a frame for much less than $4k…so, yeah $5k for a USA made Exie, might actually be (sadly) a ‘deal’.
What is your opinion on The Fezzari La Sal Peak.? Being the expert i would love youre honest opinion, have you ridden one and i would love for you to rip that bike to see its potential if it wasnt a big drag for you..Thank you for taking your time and keep on doing this awesome videos...😎✌
Jorge, I haven't been super keen to ride any consumer direct brands. Jenson USA has been a huge part of how I can make these videos happen, so I'm hesitant to cut out retailers entirely. Danica likes her Fezzari. I don't love the name and look, but the bike seems to work great for her.
@@JeffKendallWeed i realy apreciate your honest opinion thank you..
Hey Jeff! I’m here in Norcal (Santa Rosa). I’m looking for a pair of nice mtb shorts, just wondering what is the brand of that gray shorts you are wearing? Thanks!
Most likely Kitsbow
Hey Jean, I mostly wore the "jeans" looking shorts, which are "jorts" made by Ripton. Super comfy and have a great cut- they look like denim, but are actually a stretch performance fabric. I realy like them, but they don't dry as quick as the Kitsbow shorts. I was on some old Kitsbow Origin shorts in other shots. Kitsbow used to sponsor me and I still have some of their stuff.
Is that simple green bike wash?
No, it's just regular stuff that I got at Home Depot. Forgive me, but I'm a bad example!
@@JeffKendallWeed it's okay. I usually put dish soap in a bucket, but my brother was looking for a recommendation and I had just seen an ad for simple Green bike wash and I thought what you were using looked like it. 😊
Sorry Jeff, I have to say this. I was a service manager at multiple shops in the late 90s through 2010. I had to warranty every single Kestrel frame that came across my work bench. Maybe bad luck, but I personally could not put my money into a Kestrel.
Fair feedback Scott! I can't comment on how the Kestrals were engineered, but I'm confident the guys at Ibis will do a good job. The USA made Ripley LS that we got my wife had zero issues.
Does anyone have an idea when all the Ripley builds will be available?
Hey Lee, it's hard to say- there are parts shortages from literally every manufacturer. If you want to get the best answer, try emailing askchuck@ibiscycles.com, or call them at 831-461-1435.
@@JeffKendallWeed Thanks bud! I have heard spring '22, but also heard some manufacturers are having 700 day lead times for parts, which takes us to summer '23. I'll shoot him an email and see what's up. Crazy times!
How does this to compare to the ripley
Ripley is noticeably heavier. The Ripley is probably the most versatile bike in the Ibis line up. The Exie is a lot more efficient for flatter, rolling terrain. The Ripley pulls ahead once you get to jump trails, flow trails, and steeper stuff.
1 year later, and Ibis offers a vietnam version of this bike (for about half price)...
Yep, they did. Making bikes one at a time versus an assembly line is a whole different game.
@@JeffKendallWeed Don't get me wrong, I'm happy they make one I can now afford!
Hi Jeff , great Review of this new killer model from Ibis !!! What stem are you using in the Ibis Exie ? Brand and length of the Stem please....
PNW Stem , great .....
What’s bad about pnw he runs 50 mm btw
It's the older PNW stem in the 50mm length. The overall size of the bike felt great for everything but aggressive cornering- that was when I wanted a tad more bike.
I would cut off one of my toes to be able to manual like that.
Ahhh thanks Jay! But don;t worry, there's far more to life than wheelies!!!
respect 🤙
wait.. autoplay is on? this was meant to be for your fancy biketrip vid 😉
Hahaha all good, thanks Gogo!!!
Are we ever going to be able to actually purchase a bike?
Yeah Terry, they were in stock until just a couple hours ago. The ones that Jenson got just sold today.
0:18 do I see a slayer?
Yes, I did a few videos on it and it's an AWESOME bike park/freeride bike. I need to send it back to Rocky, but I've been too slammed cranking out Exie content!
No point in having the front wheel on the ground anyway...jk, awesome breakdown!
Thanks Kris!
Would you buy this bike!
tobogan = grim donut
lol that's a fantastic explanation ken!!!
The geo of the Exie is just too XC. Give me a Spur!
different horses for different courses
Spur and Ripley AF are VERY similar, only the Spur is longer with a steeper head angle than the Ripley AF. The Exie is a whole different category.
Point of contention, but otherwise great vid. I think outsourcing, in the traditional sense, meant items were manufactured outside of our shores, not just intrastate. Thanks for the bad ass vids, you're an absolute beast on a bike and makes me wanna keep working to get better!
Just an outside or foreign supplier. Nevada is outside CA, so it seems to fit the dictionary definition of outsource:
out·source
/ˈoutˌsôrs/
Learn to pronounce
verb
gerund or present participle: outsourcing
obtain (goods or a service) from an outside or foreign supplier, especially in place of an internal source.
Did the wife give you the 👎🏻 on being in more video’s? 😉
Huh?!
@@JeffKendallWeed reference your question to her in “is she cheating on her ibis…. June 1st I believe.
Sorry, didn’t mean for that question to seem creepy… 🤦🏼♂️ wasn’t my intention
Background tune you got going on is got to go
Thanks for the feedback! What device were you using to listen to this? Headphones? Air pods? Cell phone speaker?
@@JeffKendallWeed iPad. It just seemed like it was background noise. Maybe OK during riding footage but was a bit of distraction when listening to you talk and narrate
@@JeffKendallWeed Excellent video though 👏👍💪💪